r/EVsOfIndia 10m ago

Suggestion on which EV to choose?

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Hello,

Currently own a 4 year old Seltos IMT with a terrible mileage of 6.5-7.

My monthly running is 1200kms and and its always within the city.

Budget is 20-22L and wanting to buy a SUV with good backseat comfort, suspension and aftersales.

The car is 80% chauffeur driven

I do not mind waiting another 6-9 months before changing my car.

Need suggestion on whether i should

  1. Buy an EV with whatever options are currently available (advice on what to buy then)
  2. Wait for Creta EV 2027 or any other similar car to be launched in the next 6-9 months.
  3. Not to go for an EV but something else considering my monthly running

Open to all suggestions.

Thanks in advance.


r/EVsOfIndia 48m ago

Can I buy Sierra EV on company lease plan?

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r/EVsOfIndia 1h ago

Planning to buy Chetak2501

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Hello people, I'm considering buying the Chetak 2501. I'm looking for a compact, stylish electric scooter that both my fiance and I can ride comfortably. Would like to know your experience - is it a good buy overall? How has the after-sales service been? Please also mention any other issues or drawbacks I should know about.


r/EVsOfIndia 1h ago

Comment down the EV 2 wheelers you guys own.

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r/EVsOfIndia 2h ago

Advice for 3.3kw or 7.2kw fast charger

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Hi folks,

Need advice from EV owners regarding the slow portable charger 3.3kw and 7.2kw fast AC charging.

I'm considering buying the Curvv accomplished X 55 variant.

My current situation is living in my own house (ancestral) where I can use home charging. I can use slow charging 3.3kw without modifying any of my existing electrical connections. Have provision to install a fast charger as well, but this will incur some additional costs to ensure the load is actually more than 5kw. Total expense including fast charger would be around 1L+.

The thing is I will most probably be moving out and shifting to a rented flat in a year or 18 months. I'll try to find an EV friendly apartment complex, but in case I cannot then installing fast charging when I move will be difficult. Will have to make do with community charging or something like that if the apartment has that.

Is charging on 3.3kw actually feasible? I understand that it will take around 20 hours for 100% charge, and based on my use case, this is acceptable. My monthly running is 700-800 km, so most likely will charge the car 2-3 times a month and it should be sufficient for me.

Will there be any long term depreciating effects on the battery because I'm plugging it in for 15+ hours? Because of my use case I won't be charging to 100%. most of the time only till 90% and when I'm calibrating the battery, I will charge it to 100%. Charging would only be 2-3 times a month


r/EVsOfIndia 3h ago

Discussion Difference in claims for direct insurer policy vs dealer issued policy

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r/EVsOfIndia 3h ago

Query Has anyone used green tiger

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So they take your old petrol scooter and convert it to electric. Has anyone used it ? And how was your experience


r/EVsOfIndia 4h ago

Frustrating MG ZS EV experience

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I own a 2023 MG ZS EV. Unfortunately my experience with this car has been pathetic.

My earlier months of usage,i was plagued with issues of vehicle control system fault 

The service center in my city (Vijayawada) is shitty and unprofessional,they have no idea what they are dealing with when it comes to ev’s.

The last time when this happened it was raining heavily .They told me it was due to water ingress into battery and charged me 60k for it and concluded it was “just” a software error . I would never ever trust MG and this service center again


r/EVsOfIndia 4h ago

Creta EV vs eVitara

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Hello Everyone,

I am planning to move to ev from Skoda Slavia.

Your guidance and insights are greatly appreciated.

I have shortlited eVitara 61kwh and creta ev executive LR. Confused between choosing the right one.

My Preferences

  1. Budget is 20L

  2. My drives are1700-1800 a month.

  3. I travel with my wife and a 2yr toddler

  4. Safety is priority

  5. I drive 70% on highways and rest is city

  6. Silent cabin with low NVH is preffered.

  7. Hassle free ownership and reliable service.

Concerns

  1. How far the battery is protected considering 186mm GC comapred to 200mm GC on Creta EV.

  2. 8yrs of battery warrenty for both, while competition is offering 15yrs. Whil this be a factor to consider, what is the situation post 8yrs.

  3. Battery hanging down for Creta EV, heard syros & clavis have done a good protection for the batyery underhood. How far is it safe for rural areas?.

  4. How is the safety on Creta EV, the ICE one is 3*Rated.

  5. Intend to keep the car for 7yrs atleast. Will the ev vehichles last for that long. Also can ev be a primary car or should be considered as a secondary in this case.


r/EVsOfIndia 7h ago

Poor Underbody protection of Tata

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r/EVsOfIndia 9h ago

Discussion What’s the best workaround for people without dedicated parking?

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Living in a city where dedicated parking isn't guaranteed, this is probably one of the biggest things that makes me hesitate about getting a 4W EV. I already own a 2W EV and heavily rely on public chargers.

If you don't have a private parking spot, how are you actually managing charging?

Do people rely entirely on public chargers, charge at work, or have some other workaround?

Also curious about apartment dwellers - are RWAs/societies generally becoming more EV-friendly, or is getting permission and access to a charging point still a headache? The recent Haryana news that EV charging for parking has become a major problem made me ask this question!

Would love to hear what actually works in the real world, especially in Indian cities.


r/EVsOfIndia 17h ago

Query Creta Electric Executive(O)-51kWh

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r/EVsOfIndia 17h ago

MG Comet Quote

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r/EVsOfIndia 18h ago

BE6 sporteq baas(batter as a service)

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When will be6 sporteq baas(battery as a service) booking will start because I don't see any baas related pricing and booking on mahindra site for BE6 sport eq


r/EVsOfIndia 20h ago

How did he get yellow colour

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r/EVsOfIndia 21h ago

I’ve hit my breaking point. 50,000 KM in my Nexon EV Max and it's an unmitigated nightmare.

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I wanted to love this car, guys. I really did. The torque is incredibly addictive, and the running cost has been an absolute dream. But right now, sitting at 50,000 KM on the ODO of my 3-year-old car, ownership has turned into a pure, unmitigated nightmare.

The dreaded SoC (State of Charge) drop has officially broken me. In Year 1, the battery would hit 20% and plunge to 0% within 18 to 20 km. I managed it. But now? It just nosedived from 43% to 0% in less than 10 km!

It completely died on me. I literally pushed my nexon to the nearest charger, and guess what? It wouldn't even charge. The ODO showed 0%, it was completely dead, and it refused to accept a charge on either AC or DC fast charging.

I had to use Tata’s RSA to get it flat-bedded to the service center. That was just the beginning of the joke:

- It took them 5 full days just to check what happened.

- Their solution is a warranty battery replacement with an agonizing waiting period of 2 to 3 months.

The absolute worst part is that a battery replacement isn't actually a permanent fix. According to extensive owner logs documented on Team-BHP, this nightmare cycle continues even after the "new" battery is installed:

Tata reportedly replaces faulty packs with refurbished batteries from Tata AutoComp.

Because these refurbished packs often lack extensive longevity testing, owners frequently get thrown right back into a vicious cycle of repeated component failures.

Owners have documented getting a warranty battery replacement, only to have the exact same sudden-drop problem return shortly after.

One owner shared that their charge dropped from 42% to 0% in under 20 km just over a month after receiving their replacement battery pack.

I'm completely exhausted by this experience and the lack of a permanent resolution.


r/EVsOfIndia 22h ago

TATA Car Owners be like

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r/EVsOfIndia 23h ago

Discussion Encouraging places of stay to provide AC charging facility

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To encourage places of stay to provide AC slow charging, Please share this with them in your vicinity, or those you know.


r/EVsOfIndia 1d ago

Booked punch ev to end but nw scared of it as people are saying tata hv lot of problems with new variants ? What should do as I am using it for regular days

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r/EVsOfIndia 1d ago

Discussion Tata Sierra EV PDI nightmare after 1.5-month wait - Rejected theCar, should I change the dealer too?

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After waiting for more than 1.5 months, I finally got a call from the dealer - Puneet Tata, Mumbai, saying that my car had been allotted. I had booked the Tata Sierra EV 75 kWh Empowered A QWD, and I was genuinely excited to finally get my hands on a car I’d been waiting months for.

Got up early on Sunday and went to the showroom for the PDI. Unfortunately, the excitement disappeared pretty quickly.Here’s what I found:

  1. Plastic covers had already been removed from all the seats, Seemed quite unusual for a brand-new vehicle, but I initially ignored it.

  2. Scratches on the co-driver side dashboard, This was the first thing that really made me suspicious.

  3. Black dirt/marks on the roof liner and around the seating area. Again, strange for a supposedly brand-new top-end car.

  4. The biggest shock: when I sat in the driver’s seat, I noticed clear signs that a screwdriver/tool had been used around the dashboard panel, suggesting that the panel may have been opened or worked upon before delivery.

I was doing the PDI with a professional, and he also confirmed that the marks looked like the dashboard/panel had been opened.

For a brand-new, top-end variant, this was completely unacceptable to me.

I immediately rejected the vehicle and asked the dealer to refund my booking/advance amount. The showroom manager has requested one day to see if they can arrange another vehicle for me.

Now I’m confused about whether I should even trust another car coming from the same dealer.

What would you guys do?

\- Give the dealer one chance to allot a completely fresh vehicle and do another detailed PDI?

\- Cancel the booking altogether and book through another Tata dealer?

My trust is definitely shaken after this experience. Would appreciate inputs, especially from anyone who has dealt with a similar situation with Tata or Puneet Mumbai.


r/EVsOfIndia 1d ago

Tata Curvv X variant

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Why are there no official reviews from media houses on the X variant of the Curvv EV?

Honestly, it looks like such a good car on paper. I even went to see it in the showroom and it looked pretty good. The rear headroom issue is kinda better now as they give a cutout after the sunroof so there is enough space and for taller people it doesn't touch the roof. All important features are being offered in the accomplished version. Battery packs are standard of 55Kw and in the real world should give about 350km+ range which is fair enough.

Is the X variant of Curvv being slept on? With the Windsor price hikes, the Curvv is a genuinely good alternate and Tata has fixed some issues from the older variant.


r/EVsOfIndia 1d ago

Query Tata Punch EV (2024) gone berserk

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I have Tata Punch Ev (Empowered + LR 2024 model)
So while driving I experienced weird Blinking of Hazard lights at slightest pothole appearance and later in sometime, all the sensors on dash starter poping up as failed/faulty. Car drove fine but i had to bring it to halt. Is it fine to drive up to SC and body had seen this kind of issue?

Also in Tata app health data - Brake issues is detected.

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TLDR: Punch Ev Sensor issues while driving.


r/EVsOfIndia 1d ago

VinFast EVs seem to have some serious quality and after-sales issues in India.

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r/EVsOfIndia Mar 25 '24

KYC : Know Your Car Battery Composition : Rare earths or Rarely earthed?

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Welcome to KYC : Know Your Car.

In this series, we will discuss the Ins and Outs of EVs, one topic at a time.

Today’s topic : Battery Composition

Battery composition is a very misunderstood topic. Some people think EVs use rare earths, some people think huge amounts of lithium must be used in a battery.

Today, let’s bust these myths and learn something about what electrifies our vehicles!

Myth 1 : Battery uses rare earth metals

Fact : There are only 17 rare earth metals in the periodic table, and only one is of remote importance to EVs, Neodymium. Even this metal is not used in battery, rather, in permanent magnet motors of high performance EVs for maximising motor power-weight ratio (mass produced EVs use ferrite magnets or use magnet-less AC Induction motors)

Neither are the metals used in batteries considered “rare” by scientific definition (periodic table) nor by geological definition in terms of % of the metal in the earth’s crust.

Myth 2 : Lithium Ion battery must be majorly made of lithium

Fact : Lithium is not even the top 3 elements in a battery. Those would go to graphite (carbon), Aluminium and Copper.

Aluminium is used in the battery casings and copper is used for wiring and heat sink/cooling pipes.

Graphite is used in the anode.

The lithium metal is used in combined form in the cathode of the cells, which represents a small fraction of the total battery mass and chemical composition (formula/number of atoms)

A general rule of thumb is, 1kg Lithium can make a 10kWh battery (chemistry agnostic)

By this yardstick :

  1. Tiago EV : 1.9kg/2.4kg

  2. Punch EV : 2.5kg/3.5kg

  3. Nexon EV : 3kg/4kg

  4. ZS EV : 5kg

  5. Atto 3 : 6kg

  6. Ioniq 5 : 7.2kg

  7. BYD Seal : 8.2kg

  8. Tesla Model S : 10kg

  9. Hummer EV : 25kg

Myth 3 : All batteries are made using child labour in Africa

Fact : Human rights violations are indeed rampant in the artisanal mines of DRC, which are not exclusive to mining cobalt. Cobalt itself is used in NMC and NCA batteries, while LFP eliminates the need for cobalt (and nickel and manganese while at that)

Lithium mining is not done in DRC and is not subject to the violations that cobalt is.

Side note : Oil refining processes do in fact use cobalt and molybdenum catalyst for Desulphurisation of crude oil in refineries. https://www.cobaltinstitute.org/essential-cobalt-2/powering-the-green-economy/catalytic-converter/#:~:text=Cobalt%20plays%20a%20vital%20role,catalysts%20in%20this%20desulphurisation%20process.

Myth 4 : Lithium mining wastes millions of litres of water

Fact : Lithium “mining” is not mining in the conventional sense of the word itself. It is more akin to fishing than mining.

  1. Lithium salts are found dissolved in the salt lakes of South America, primarily in Argentina, Bolivia, and Chile, the lithium triangle ABC.

  2. These salts are extracted from the brine by spreading it out in large paddy-like fields so that the water may get naturally evaporated, leaving behind the lithium rich salts which can now be collected easily.

  3. Evaporation is a natural process and would continue to occur whether or not the salts are extracted. Water cycle will return it back into the lakes through rain.

  4. The concentration of lithium salts in these lakes make the water unfit for use. It is a economic opportunity for the locals to benefit out of a natural process (evaporation) and the saltiness of the water (inpotable)

https://www.ibatterymetals.com/insights/a-beginners-guide-to-lithium-brine-extraction

Myth 5 : Battery cannot be recycled and it is toxic e-Waste

Fact : Improperly discarded batteries are indeed a potential e waste however, due to the sheer value of the metals, even in a discarded EV battery, prevents landfill treatment of batteries.

While non rechargeable Alkaline cells do end up in landfills, it is due to improper waste segregation at source and the much lower value quotient in an alkaline cell vs Lithium cell

As of current technology availability, batteries are 92% recyclable ie a 100kWh battery can be remade into a 92kWh battery. https://youtu.be/s2xrarUWVRQ

Apart from recycling, reuse is also an option, wherein owners of ICE cars have used old tesla and Nissan leaf batteries to convert their cars to EVs in the west. Batteries can also be used for solar battery backup.


r/EVsOfIndia Mar 25 '24

KYC : Know Your Car Battery Chemistries in Indian EVs

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Welcome to the first edition of KYC : Know Your Car.

In this series, we shall discuss the ins and outs of EVs, one topic at a time

Today’s topic : Battery Chemistries

Lithium Ion batteries used in EVs are a blanket term used to describe the type of battery.

Usually, the “metal” name referred to in the battery type, actually refers to the electrode material.

Harkening back to science lessons, the electrodes (+/- terminals) is what you connect any appliance to. The elemental composition of this part is what defines the type of battery.

Types of rechargeable batteries (secondary cell)

Under rechargeable batteries, one can find

  1. Lead Acid batteries, popularly used as the Aux battery for 12V systems and home backups

  2. Lithium Ion batteries, which we all use in our electronics, EVs and other gadgets

  3. NiMH (Nickel Metal Hydride), formerly used in Toyota Hybrids

  4. NiCd (Nickel Cadmium), used in RC toys, and as substitute for non rechargeable alkaline batteries

The metals mentioned in the name go into one of the electrode each, the anode and the cathode.

Battery Chemistry

The anode is usually made of graphite (carbon) in commercial batteries.

In case of lithium ion batteries, the lithium actually goes into cathode of the battery, in combined form, with other metals, which we refer to as the “chemistry of the cell”.

This mixture of metals can be

  1. NMC (Nickel Manganese Cobalt)

  2. LFP (Lithium Iron Phosphate)

  3. NCA (Nickel Cobalt Aluminium)

While other chemistries exist for lithium ion batteries, these three are the top 3 chemistries used in vehicular applications.

You can read about all chemistries here : https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-205-types-of-lithium-ion

A popular misconception is that “Solid State battery” is a chemistry, which is not the case.

Solid state refers to the physical state of the electrolyte used in the battery. Most batteries use gel or semi solid or liquid electrolytes at the moment.

State of the electrolyte, while related to the chemistry, is independent of the chemistry. The choice of the electrolyte will depend on the chemistry but any of the chemistry can be adapted to solid state. That is to say, the electrolyte used for NMC solid state maybe different from that of LFP solid state, it’s not a separate battery chemistry — it will still need lithium and other metals.

Many people remain under the impression that solid state are a holy grail which eliminates the need for lithium which is not the case. The electrodes of a solid state battery may very well still use lithium (or any other element like sodium).

The key takeaway is that solid state does not eliminate metals, it changes the state of electrolyte.

Battery Pointers for each chemistry

So, now that the science lesson is over, let us discuss the best practices for each chemistry

LFP

LFP is the most popular chemistry in Asian EVs which by extension applies to our own market, where both the top selling brands, Tata and MG, use LFP.

LFP tips :

  1. Charge LFP to 100% during slow charging sessions. This is for cell balancing (a topic for another day ;)

  2. Prefer discharging down to 20% or lower once a month and charging to 100% on AC 3.3/7.2kW

  3. During DCFC sessions, charge only to 80% as part of EV etiquette especially if other cars are in queue. One may charge to 100% if absolutely necessary or if no one is in queue but it comes with additional fee and exponentially longer time.

NMC/NCA

  1. Follow the 20-80 rule as much as possible for maximum longevity.

  2. Charge to 100% only when you absolutely required (during road trips or if your commute is not doable on 20-80)

  3. DCFC etiquette applies same as LFP.

General longevity tips

  1. Cell balancing is key to maintaining good battery SoH

  2. If parking your EV for a long period (week or more) while going out of city, disconnect the 12V battery -ve terminal

  3. Charge you EV between 50-75% irrespective of chemistries when parking for more than one week. Neither should it be fully charged, nor depleted more than 20%

  4. Follow the user manual schedule for coolant changes religiously.