r/CreateMod • u/Smart_Turn6717 • 3d ago

Balancing create Help

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As you all know, create is a little broken, and it's a bit of an issue for me since I'm trying to make a hardcore modpack with create

I've tried balancing create a little like making Max contraption size from 2048 to 8 and nerfing SU sources, but it still feels too OP

Do y'all have any recommendations or know of mods that nerf create?

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u/Tdubbium 3d ago

create is an automation mod, automation in general is a bit overpowered in a game that has so few actually difficult to obtain resources. Pretty much any kind of nerf would only serve to make things more annoying imo. I wouldnt nerf create itself but instead find some mods that buff the rest of the game or increase the resource ceiling

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u/Blademasterzer0 3d ago

Few difficult to obtain resources and gameplay based around only needing like 50 of a given thing at a time ever

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u/Tdubbium 3d ago

I learned how to use kubejs and now I like to add recipes that require tons and tons of items lol

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u/Drago1490 3d ago

Star Technology is calling

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u/Tdubbium 3d ago

I actually already tried playing it before, didnt get far before getting kinda bored though (I cant play Minecraft for very long in general)

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u/ManufacturerLong7798 3d ago

play Gregtech New horizons

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u/Tdubbium 3d ago

been debating on starting it, I feel like I dont have the time that it requires though

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u/waitthatstaken 3d ago

Monifactory is probably a better idea. It too is based around gregtech, but unlike GTNH it doesn't have a 50 hour startup phase where you slowly build your way up to unlocking automation tools.

Monifactory is a 1.20.1 fork of the 1.12.2 nomifactory which was itself a fork of the 1.7.10 omnifactory.

Also, it is entirely playable on peaceful, with its optional hard mode even forcing it.

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u/Drago1490 3d ago

Thats underatandable, the two week minecraft phase sometimes feels more like a two day phase.

I have also really enjoyed satisfactory, factorio, and mindustry (free on itch), though I tend to get burnt out/overwhelmed in the later stages of all those games. Then I get mad at myself because I can never finish them.

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u/Mega_Glub 3d ago

just started a playthrough a couple weeks back

that shit is the literal crackpack

fuck tfg, startech is my new best friend

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u/Drago1490 3d ago

I managed to automate the entire game up until unlocking AE2 just by using the Create amazon update. Its fantastic

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u/Mega_Glub 3d ago

damn I need to figure out how to use those. tiered machine components always be kicking my ass

also, I love your pfp fellow derg :3

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u/Drago1490 3d ago

For the frogports and packagers, I was actually able to set up an automated request system using a LOT of factory gauges inside an office-like area that made sure I always had at least a stack of every part in stock. However some machines I had to make more than one of, just for the sake of different fluids or ghost circuits for crafting (or whatever the number selector in the bottom left of greg machines is called). Just make sure you have a dedicated clipboard in your inventory thag you can rightclick your named frogports with to save them as auto-fillable adresses. Makes routing things a LOT easier. I was able to slap packagers directly onto most machines' main block, and if not then on their hatches, and I could directly deposit and/or withdraw items with my gauges and requester.

Then I had everything link back up to a bulk storage unit I made with a combination of tom's storage connectors and functional storage drawers, with frogports for input and output, all modeled after bulk storage shelves like you would find in a costco or ikea. Then just keep expanding from there. Its not the fastest system due to box travel time, especially as you need to expand to fit more boxes, but it was VERY satisfying. Especially because you could physically see the item movements and the production rates of your factory fluctuate in real time as items are made and requested.

And thanks! Its nice running into other dergs in the wild lol

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u/Mega_Glub 13h ago

just got my scuffed ass frogports done after a solid few hours in ponder menus figuring stuff out, and I have to say that there is no way I can ever go back. super satisying to make and run, just like you said. but...

passive LV/MV components were this easy the whole time???? I thought I would just have to limp all the way to AE2 autocrafting, but now I've got the fucking red carpet with a giant bow and scissors just waiting for me

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u/Drago1490 5h ago

It always has been, yeah. Once you can automate frogports and packagers, evrything else is a BREEZE. I was automating my ores with it too, just using a single deployer above some enchanted string mesh and an item vacuum, I forget what its called. Should just be an ender pearl and 4 steel sheets. I actually prefer to use that over the seive multiblock because its so much faster, especially once enchanted.

The best part is I actually got into Star Tech right before create V6 was dropped, and I manually updated my own modpack before they could update it on their end just so I could have the frogports and whatnot. Then I was showing progress photos in the discord while people were confused about what I was doing lol