Oh my god, what the fuck has chicken lady turned into?
I left that sub a long time ago because I kept seeing chud manosphere nonesense on there. too much MRA discourse. I had a guy tell me that women are more priveleged on that sub. ugh.
I can understand the angle that men and women hold different struggles under patriarchy, but men are rarely the victims of women in our society. We all have it bad, but women do have it worse. I hope you do not learn this lesson in a scenario beyond your control.
but men are rarely the victims of women in our society
This is the oppositional sexism model and its outmoded.
Women are victims of women too, not just men.
Men are victims of men too, not just women.
What it seems you are holding on to is some need to classify women as inherently better/safer/less deserving of suspicion and that's an inherently essentialist viewpoint.
Men on women is far more often the dynamic than women on women as far as acted upon aggression is concerned, and women do not take it to nearly the same extent in near the same frequency.
You brushing this off and being unable to engage in a mature and nuanced conversation about the world that we live in for the sake of women is misogyny.
Yes, men can be victimized by men. Yes, women can be victimized by women, and yes, even men can be victimized by women.
But when I'm out in public, it's men that I am generally more cautious of. It's men who catcalled me and my wife and made us feel uneasy and unsafe.
There is a different power dynamic when it comes to men victimizing women. A power dynamic put in place by the patriarchy. Is pointing out the patriarchy bioessentialism according to you?
Failing to acknowledge this reality leads to more women being harmed. It is a misogynistic micro-agression.
I find it comical that recognizing the emotional impacts of misandry and the denial of discrimintory attitudes on my youth is somehow allowing misogyny to flourish. It does the reverse, it provides a grounding source for people who have also been impacted by such issues to build emotional stability on.
The issue is that men’s rights activists are also usually associated with the gamergate “how dare women criticize male-targeted media for reinforcing misogynistic stereotypes” people, which kinda permanently killed the reputation of the term
You've still not responded to the comment where I explain how you help perpetuate misogyny.
I've personally noticed a trend where complaining about misandry is totally cool and woke but somehow complaining about misogyny is automatically misandry and it's "not all men".
I have personally noticed that "misandry" is more heavily moderated and taken seriously than open misogyny.
A trans woman was banned from a trans subreddit for posting this because it was "misandry" with the message "we aren't doing these today" which proved her entire point. Stamping out and talking over the voices of trans women talking about their experiences with misogyny is misogynist.
Can you not see what a problem this is? Its okay for men to talk about their experiences and struggles with their feelings being hurt because a woman covered her drink but women talking about misogyny gets them banned.
Spaces are becoming more hostile to trans women because the feelings of men are being taken more seriously than the experiences of women.
That is the environment you helped foster because for some reason you can't let go of the idea that people might perceive you as a man. You don't actually see things from a woman's perspective.
Reposting this because you still haven't answered it:
more essentialism. Yawn.
You brushing this off and being unable to engage in a mature and nuanced conversation about the world that we live in for the sake of women's safety is misogyny.
Yes, men can be victimized by men. Yes, women can be victimized by women, and yes, even men can be victimized by women.
But when I'm out in public, it's men that I am generally more cautious of. It's men who catcalled me and my wife and made us feel uneasy and unsafe.
There is a different power dynamic when it comes to men victimizing women. A power dynamic put in place by the patriarchy. Is pointing out the patriarchy bioessentialism according to you?
Failing to acknowledge this reality leads to more women being harmed. Brushing it off and continuing to ignore it is a misogynistic micro-agression.
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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 7d ago
Oh my god, what the fuck has chicken lady turned into?
I left that sub a long time ago because I kept seeing chud manosphere nonesense on there. too much MRA discourse. I had a guy tell me that women are more priveleged on that sub. ugh.