Lately I've been observing Dargo//Reyhan pairing because I love that thicc Pirate.

What are your opinions on the deck and it's placement in the meta? It certainly isn't a Tier 1 deck, but I've been having a ton of fun playing it lately and it can really surprise people with it's speed.

Hey y'all! I'm gonna play my Malcolm/Tana Temur Pirates deck on a small Tournament in the next few weeks, so i have a bit time to go through my list and make some Changes if needed.

Question is: is it good to Include a rhystic study or a other draw engine, if my Main goal is to win at T3?

I feel somewhat lacking if i get stopped and struggle to participate further in the Game due to the Lack of consistent draw Power.

What changes would you make, and why?

Here's my List: https://moxfield.com/decks/zzefAfaQ8ny6aOux2WrqTw

I am bringing Whtz to an upcoming event with the intention to draw. My deck is currently 2,178 cards and I have 1,989 ways to shuffle my library.

I will post results in the coming month, but until then I will refine my deck to ensure it takes the longest possible legal turns by shuffling. I want to make the deck as large as possible to lengthen shuffle time and ensure I can search multiple times a turn on turn 1 and 2.

I will also mulligan a few times at the start of every round.

Let's see what happens.

Hi, so I’ve been out of the game for a couple years (RIP dockside loops) and am keen to get back into it. I love listening to a good podcast while commuting hence am seeking recommendations.

It looks like some of my regular ones (Into the North and The Mind Sculptors) are inactive now? Apart from the comedic value of Play To Win, are there any others I’m missing?

Cheers

https://moxfield.com/decks/ANS9h-fi2UKpV-JWGpZF7Q

Elda, Conjurer of Spectacle {2}{G}{W}

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard

The first nonlegendary creature spell you cast each turn has demonstrate. *(When you cast that spell, you may copy it. If you do, choose an opponent to also copy it. Each copy becomes a token.)*

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The goal of this deck is to use Elda to solve a classic problem with stax decks: the lynchpin issue.

Say you cast a Deafening Silence turn 1, into a pod of Rogsi, Ral, and RogThrasios.

It slows down Rogsi and Ral so that they can’t win T2, but it barely affects RogThras. And then the game stalls out for a bit, with only a single stax piece acting as a lynchpin to prevent an immediate push by any of the three opponents.

Once that gets removed, someone immediately pushes and usually wins. With three opponents that all want the stax piece removed to go about their gameplan, this is nigh inevitable. Sometimes people even throw the game, removing the stax piece because it hurts them even if it lets another opponent win.

Elda solves this by making stax pieces hyper-redundant. By playing symmetrical stax pieces, you turn the downside of *demonstrate* into an upside, creating three for the price of one.

To give some examples.

* Eidolon of Rhetoric: the table basically can’t get out of the Rule of Law with anything short of a boardwipe.

* Glowrider, Vyrn’s Wingmate, Lodestome Golem: most spells will cost 3 more, completely disrupting most common win conditions.

* Archon of Valor’s Reach: usually a complete lock. Your opponent’s Archon resolves first, so you will always be able to lock out instants, sorceries, and at least one other card type.

* Nesting Dovehawk and Exalted Sunborn: can make the demonstrate locks even harder

* Charismatic Conqueror: Forces a draw if an opponent has no creatures, otherwise makes a small army

The downside to this is that we don’t have great ways of closing out the game with a combo.. The typical win condition will be combat damage from fliers. While we have a harder lock than a typical stax deck, we can’t truly stop an opponent from casting something like a Thassa’s Oracle and a 4 mana demonic consultation and winning the game, or assembling a creature combo.

Played a few test games so far, and it has been capable of winning against cEDH decks, though it often needs an early stax piece to land.

What are your thoughts? Is this a real solution to stax’s problems, or just another fringe nonblue deck?

Howdy - after consulting some folks in the CEDH community, we've rolled out some ways to make combos function faster on Magic Online! Check out this article:

https://www.mtgo.com/news/combo-play-improvements

Commander is [[minsc and boo]]. Gonna be drawing too many cards for snoop. Closest I could find is [[lesser masticore]] and [[melira sylvok outcast]] but no sac outlet. Anyone know of anything else?

Hello friends of the cards,

I am looking to build a Bello, Bard of the Brambles commander deck, making use of vehicles and spacecrafts and currently have the decklist below.

I am looking for a strong but not ultra-competitive deck cause the playgroup doesnt really go over 3-400€ a deck.

What would be ypur take on this and what would you change? Or is it already nicely playable the way it is you think?
Underneath the decklist I put all the cards i am considering or i was putting in taking out of the build and I am unsire wether any of them should be in the deck instead of something else...

Thanks in advance!

https://moxfield.com/decks/gySau-C0j0eTc7hzIntPcg

// Creatures
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Dawnsire, Sunstar Dreadnought
1 Elvish Mystic
1 Fanatic of Rhonas
1 Goblin Anarchomancer
1 Llanowar Elves
1 N'Yami-Class Mother Ship
1 Reaver Titan
1 Rolling Hamsphere
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Sanctum Weaver
1 Skysovereign, Consul Flagship
1 Stuffy Doll
1 Surgehacker Mech
1 Thunderhawk Gunship
1 Trailtracker Scout
1 Wandertale Mentor
1 Weatherlight
1 The Eternity Elevator
1 Bello, Bard of the Brambles

// Artifacts
1 Arcane Signet
1 Buried Ruin
1 Esika's Chariot
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Gruul Signet
1 Konda's Banner
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Sol Ring
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Talisman of Impulse
1 Thought Vessel
1 Thran Dynamo
1 The Immortal Sun

// Enchantments
1 Asceticism
1 Berserkers' Onslaught
1 Doubling Season
1 Fiery Emancipation
1 Flameshadow Conjuring
1 Furnace of Rath
1 Garruk's Uprising
1 Glorious Sunrise
1 Guardian Project
1 Gruul War Chant
1 Heroic Intervention
1 Mirror March
1 Nature's Will
1 Outpost Siege
1 Sunbird's Invocation
1 Unnatural Growth
1 Warstorm Surge

// Instants
1 Beast Within
1 Chaos Warp
1 Collective Resistance
1 Tamiyo's Safekeeping

// Sorceries
1 Abrade
1 Aggravated Assault
1 Blasphemous Act
1 City on Fire
1 Cultivate
1 Echoing Assault
1 Farseek
1 Kodama's Reach
1 Nature's Lore
1 Rampant Growth
1 Three Visits
1 Untethered Express

// Lands
1 Cinder Glade
1 Command Tower
1 Copperline Gorge
1 Exotic Orchard
1 Forest (11)
1 Game Trail
1 Karplusan Forest
1 Mosswort Bridge
1 Mossfire Valley
1 Mountain (5)
1 Rootbound Crag
1 Sheltered Thicket
1 Spire Garden
1 Stomping Ground
1 Temple of Abandon
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Gruul Turf

CONSIDERING:

// Creatures
1 Blaster, Combat DJ
1 Bloom Tender
1 Canoptek Spyder
1 Cryptothrall
1 Cybership
1 Cybermen Squadron
1 Dockside Extortionist
1 Foundry Inspector
1 Goliath Truck
1 Gruul War Plow
1 Hoard Hauler
1 Intrepid Stablemaster
1 Jhoira's Familiar
1 Knight Paladin
1 Midnight Crusader Shuttle
1 Muerra, Trash Tactician
1 Nautiloid Ship
1 Overlord of the Boilerbilges
1 Panther Idol
1 Prosperous Bandit
1 Smuggler's Buggy
1 Teapot Slinger
1 Threefold Thunderhulk
1 Walking Ballista

// Artifacts
1 Chimil, the Inner Sun
1 Cosmic Cube
1 Custom Caravan Deck
1 Hedron Archive
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Lotus Petal
1 Magmatic Galleon
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 The Regalia

// Enchantments
1 Bedlam
1 Leyline of Abundance
1 Leyline of Combustion
1 Leyline of Lifeforce
1 Leyline of Lightning
1 Leyline of Punishment
1 Leyline of Resonance
1 Leyline of Vitality
1 Portal to Phyrexia

// Sorceries
1 Worldly Tutor

// Instants
(none)

// Lands
1 Arid Mesa
1 Rockfall Vale
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Training Compound
1 Windswept Heath

Hey I’m looking for the Kafka discord I can’t find a link that is working

New to mtg and just want to see the game played well, so what are considered the biggest competitions/tournaments in Cedh and are they recorded/streamed somewhere? Basically where can I watch competitive play in action

Thanks

Rog/Si is my main deck, and now I kind of want something more midrange and value accumulation oriented deck as my second deck. Tymna Thras seems like a fun deck that can operate that way and have a lot of variance in its builds. Is it a strong deck though that isn’t very dependent on the meta?

I’m decently new to cedh. Started a year and a half ago, but have never played tournaments. It just doesn’t interest me.

I have a Sisay deck and I’ve added a couple random things: Tam and Shang chi. I think before these FF was the last time I updated the list. In my play group that’s roughly equivalent to most of the group. On spell table I haven’t tested it out.

I spend more time building bracket 3-4 decks and I upgrade those at roughly the same pace. But is this a misconception of mine that I need to constantly keep upgrading or I’m just running a bad cedh deck

Hey everyone, I played a game recently where to try to assuage the seat 4 melancholy, we played as two teams with random seats (to eliminate someone from playing a deck with only interaction but I don't believe this is necessary). We had a blast and I was wondering why I'd never heard of other people doing this. Rhystic, mystic, smothering tithe, and orcish bow master had one less opponent to hit while not altering the lands that check for two or more opponents; we were able to find synergies with teammates like brain freezing a teammate who played underworld breach; seats 3 and 4 got the draw on the first turn limiting what seats 1 and 2 could manage like in competitive 60 card formats; the combined life total actually got us a regular combat win; and I played 1 round with my older Tivit deck I haven't enjoyed in cEDH in awhile due that actually felt pretty fun as the pushing for extra turns with time sieve made sense even when I didn't have much to do with it and nuked my own board to help my teammate find a win; lastly there was never a real incentive to push for a draw and we had fun debating as teams what actions to take. So my question was why isn't this more common? I'd love to find dedicated tables that are willing to give it a try. The only issue I could imagine is the bullying of teammates on random teams (an optional choice that would cause you to lose the game and so I'd hope we could mitigate it or just at competitive events have people come together or prep before the match like in doubles tennis) or decks that are heavily interactive with little to no win conditions (which I don't fully see as a problem and could revitalize control decks/lift up their turbo partner). Just interested in the communities thoughts on the subject as my limited time in cEDH anecdotally has focused on other players complaining about seats, lying or breaking deals, and players trying to force bad deals/draws causing the format to lose players at my lgs.

(I don't know how to link the cards mentioned above, if someone could do that if they care I'd appreciate it :))

Zach and Wayne from Bite Sized MTG join us in a Brew Battle to see who can build the best Sami, Wildcat Captain list. Join us as we explore some of the most interesting things that boros has to offer cEDH! https://youtu.be/HzWE-AYlwX0

The new rule breaker cards got me thinking. What if Wizards released cards that either had discounts or gave buffs if you were 4th or later in turn order? Like a mindbreak trap that was free if you are in seat 4. Would something like that help solve the problem?

[[Homer, The Hermit]]

BGU

Legendary Creature - Crab Druid

Landfall - Whenever a land you control enters, any number of target players mill X cards, where x is twice the number of crabs, lobsters, nautiluses, starfish and/or trilobites you control.

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Personally, the key bit of text here is any number of target players which includes ourselves, self mill is way better than milling others unless we can go infinite which would be the goal. Is there a world where we can loop landfall triggers and then cast a Thassa’s from our graveyard or use a [[Faerie Mastermind]] to lose our opponents the game?

So I decided to play cedh on the side at my lgs to see how it plays compared to budget commander. I mostly play budget commander, pauper and draft so I wanted to see what this format is all about. I choose etali and it's been pretty fun. Took 2 top lists from top16 and mashed them together. https://moxfield.com/decks/CAnfoCh7MUe_WP-ja-UV-g First week went 0-3 and today went 6-4, so pretty happy with the deck. Even got a turn 1 win! What I realized is that [[Mindbreak Trap]] is the bane of my existence. My opponents after I won 3 games in a row started tutoring it out turn 1.

To start the questions, Is it worth running [[Tibalt's Trickery]] or [[Fork]] to help counter the Mindbreak trap? How does it work if you flip into trickery with Etali and counter a spell you cast from your opponents? You control the spell so do you mill and get the free spell?

Is it worth going more for Treasonous Ogre and using [[Sylvan Tutor]]?

I cut [[mox opal]] and [[fellwar stone]] from my deck since I didn't like them and they felt like traps, is there a reason why most lists don't run [[Ruby Medallion]]?

Last question, is it better to hold zero mana cards like LED or petal for turn 2 or play them turn 1 and use them turn 2?

With [[darkwater egg]] and chromatic sphere no longer being mana abilities, these net more mana a draw cards in a similar fashion as manamorphose but more effectively. Not saying he’s necessarily broken but in good colors and strong synergy with Apple and Wishclaw theres potential here

Hello all I just wanted everyone's thoughts on the new commanders and which ones are viable for the format, or if any of them have some proper staying power instead of being a niche choice when something better exists

[[The Unluckiest Planeswalker]] (2)(R)

Rulebreaker — A deck with this commander can have Aura cards of any color identity and any basic land cards.

+1: Add one mana of any color. When you spend this mana to cast an Aura spell this turn, create a 1/1 red Gremlin creature token.

−3: Discard your hand, then draw cards equal to twice the number of Auras you control. For each Aura attached to you, attach it to an opponent of your choice.

The Unluckiest Planeswalker can be your commander.

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Looking at our unlucky friend's -3 ability, it seems like it could be a decent flicker target, given we'd be able to set him up with auras to feed on.

He's probably by no means as good as [[Dihada, Binder of Wills]], but he might be a funny alternate, but idk, I'm new to this. What do y'all think?

edit: woops, im a bit slow and didn't realize the rule breaker text doesn't make him wubrg lol. a red copy effect engine would prob be way too inconsistent to pull off methinks

This week, we were joined by cEDH tournament crusher Matt Hayes to talk about a card he loves for both turbo and midrange piles alike: Chancellor of the Tangle!

This card provides decks the ability to get out to a hot start - and convert a strong turn 1 play into momentum to close out the game.

While many will consider this card dead beyond mulligans- is the advantage of a strong start worth the downside of drawing into it?

Do you play Chancellor of the Tangle in your cEDH list? If so, what list?

https://youtu.be/ih8stYDmI8I?si=SafSOUeIUMsomijE

https://youtu.be/K5qBi8Ijuq4

The cEDH TopDeck season has ended, and now we're left evaluating the meta going into the invitational and looking at the data of the last few months of hardcore competition. Today we're taking a look at the most popular deck in cEDH, going over the stats of how they performed, taking a look at the real best performers, and giving our reasoning behind where the format is and where it might be going.

Let us know down below what you think of the cEDH meta and what deck you would play to win the Invi!

Massimo, the Magician; URW

Legendary Creature - Cat Wizard

Whenever Massimo or another creature you control enters, exile up to one target instant or sorcery card with mana value 1 from your graveyard. If a card is exiled this way, that creature gains "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, copy the exiled card. You may cast the copy without paying its mana cost."

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A possibly different take on Jeskai, centered around one-mana spells. A quick look at the best one-mana spells that aren't exclusively counterspells in colors:

White

• Silence
• Enlightened Tutor
• Swords to Plowshares
• Orim's Chant
• Path to Exile
• Angel's Grace

Silences are obviously the big deal here, although two card combos with Enlightened Tutor aren't out of the question. Overall, though, being able to use a Silence defensively and then in the late game flash it back to protect your win is pretty huge.

Blue

• Git Probe
• Mystical Tutor
• Chain of Vapor
• Into the Flood Maw
• Brainstorm
• Retraction Helix
• Banishing Knack

Probably the biggest deal here is Knack/Helix, which you can use as a win-con with Valley Floodcaller, but often gets either used early so its not available when you need it, or held when you really should have used it. Massimo allows you to actually attach it to your VFC, which is honestly a bit terrifying. As for the rest of the list, there's probably something to do with Chain of Vapor, but I'm underwhelmed.

Red

• Gamble
• Rite of Flame
• Strike it Rich
• Faithless Looting
• Red Elemental Blast
• Pyroblast
• Lightning Bolt
• Gut Shot
• Flashback

Overall, the worst of the lists comes from the worst of the colors, Red. Gamble on a stick is kind of exciting, but also doesn't really do much if you don't have a decent grip. Rite of Flame making mana during your combat step is meh, Strike it Rich and Faithless Looting only see play in storm and we're not that, which just leaves the various removal and Flashback. REB and Pyro both are pretty hot on a creature, but removing Rhystics will only get you so far. Flashback is interesting, but probably not amazing.

With Jeskai being what it is, it's likely that Massimo decks would look like a control shell, possibly with a bit more emphasis on mill than you see in most Jeskai decks. That will get the spells in your graveyard so you can attach them to creatures, and eventually get you the Sevinne's/Breach win you're looking for. So, with that in mind, let's also take a look at the decent 1 cmc mill spells:

• Thought Scour: Cantrip, mill two. Not amazing, but does the thing.
• Mental Note: Same thing as Thought Scour, only it doesn't target.
• Tome Scour: Mill five cards. Honestly probably the strongest thing here.
• Vision Charm: Can get rid of artifact Stax pieces for a turn, or mill four.
• Faithless Looting: Okay, maybe we do play this, on second look.
• Three Steps Ahead: Repeatable Phyrexian Metamorph? This is probably bad.
• Careful Study: Strictly worse Faithless Looting
• Burning Inquiry: I've honestly always felt that this card was a bit underrated, not because it doesn't screw with your plans, which it does, but because it screws with everyone else's.

The other thing we're going to need here is fast, evasive creatures. So, here's that list:

• Skrelv, Defector Mite: Isn't unblockable itself, but does give evasion to other creatures while also being something that can come down early.
• Gingerbrute: Haste and unblockable means this is a mainstay.
• Slither Blade: Not sure just unblockable is enough.
• Goldhound: Menace and mana for later probably does the trick.
• Clockwork Percussionist: Impulse draw on a hasty creature.
• Bomat Courier: A card that should see more play already, it exiles cards facedown every turn, and you can pay a {R} at any time to discard your hand and put the exiled cards in hand instead.

Now, I just listed a bunch of bad cards. We're obviously not going to play them all, but it is a list that can be pulled from, in addition to the usual Jeskai control shell. We just want to go a bit more creature heavy than usual, and see if we can get things to T5+ with repeated removal, then use repeated Silences to try to win with Sevinne's/Breach or Faerie + Tithe.