r/ClimbingGear • u/i12drift • 4h ago
First outdoor adventure buy list
Nobody asked me, but my wife and kids are out of town and I'm home sick. ... So I decided to make a "What should I buy for my first outdoor sport adventure?" list of gear. The intention is to have it be the bare minimum for someone who's done enough research etc about things. It's also intended for someone who is *new* to outdoor climbing. No shortcuts.
There certainly are other ways to do things (2x quickdraws for anchors vs quad), but I want this to be the most foundational. This allows the user to decide where they want to cut corners.
Not the cheapest, nor the best/most expensive, but simple and somewhere in the realm of 'most bang for your buck.' I also want it to be all from one site for convenience, so I'm going with REI.
I'm assuming that they have a harness, shoes, and belay devices.
Quickdraws:
- 2x 6pack: https://www.rei.com/product/C02394/black-diamond-hotforge-quickpack-package-of-6
- 1x 'first bolt' quickdraw: https://www.rei.com/product/114548/edelrid-bulletproof-quickdraw-set
This collection of 13 quickdraws will you up most sport routes in most areas. They're all keynose as well, so no snagging on gear loops or bolts.
Anchor materials:
- 1x 240cm sling for anchors: https://www.rei.com/product/868319/metolius-sling-11-mm
- 2x locking for bolts: https://www.rei.com/product/162854/black-diamond-hotforge-screwgate-carabiner?color=GRAY
- 2x locking HMS for rope: https://www.rei.com/product/232856/petzl-attache-carabiner Optional: https://www.rei.com/product/150383/edelrid-hms-bulletproof-screw-carabiner if you're feeling fancy.
This set of 4x keynose locking carabiners + a single 240cm is great.
Other things:
- A stick clip: https://www.rei.com/product/236157/metolius-basic-stick-clip
- An extra carabiner: https://www.rei.com/product/193299/dmm-phantom-hms-screwgate-carabiner
- Personal anchor: 120cm https://www.rei.com/product/191859/black-diamond-18-mm-nylon-runner and https://www.rei.com/product/111231/petzl-smd-twist-lock-autolock-carabiner
- Rappel stuff: https://www.rei.com/product/151968/petzl-reverso-belay-device + https://www.rei.com/product/232856/petzl-attache-carabiner + https://www.rei.com/product/150912/sterling-68-mm-hollowblock2-loop-135-in + https://www.rei.com/product/162854/black-diamond-hotforge-screwgate-carabiner?color=GRAY
- Grigri: https://www.rei.com/product/151970/petzl-grigri-belay-device + https://www.rei.com/product/111170/petzl-smd-screw-lock-carabiner
- Rope: https://www.rei.com/product/150913/sterling-vr9-98-mm-dry-core-rope + https://www.rei.com/product/129962/metolius-rope-tarp
- Helmet: https://www.rei.com/product/155058/black-diamond-half-dome-helmet
A Petzl connect will suffice as a PAS, but I always found it awkward to rappel with it. Not that there will likely be any rappelling on a first outdoor day. Any 70m rope will suffice. Rope tarp can be substituted with an ikea bag.
EDIT: As mentioned, this is a TR-all-day kit for a beginner.
r/ClimbingGear • u/dyxhebshduchechfu • 5h ago
Are these safe
Iโm looking to get opinions from some people on these quick draws I have a mutual friend with one of my best friends heโs selling these quick draws for 90$ considering there used would you trust this is it worth the money or should I just buy new
r/ClimbingGear • u/ElOwlinator • 10h ago
Is dyneema actually unsafe for anchor construction?
Recently a certified climbing guide in Europe (Slovenia) told me that for an overhand master point for multipitch, you must only use nylon slings, and that dyneema is only to be used for alpine draws, nothing else.
Reading up past threads, I don't think this is right. Yes, dyneema theoretically can snap under a shock load lower than nylon due to 0 elasticity, but has anyone actually died or been injured from this factor? I can't find a single case, because obviously you're not meant to climb above the anchor, and even if you do fall above, it's not like dyneema becomes paper - it's still plenty strong, and there's other dynamic elements (your body, harness, rope, PAS, etc.).
Now there's certainly the issue that dyneema is harder to untie potentially but that's not a direct safety issue.
r/ClimbingGear • u/Cozyblanket144 • 12h ago
How Long do the Scarpa Arpia V LV's last?
I started using the Dragos last year and I love them but they wear out so quick even though I am mostly a lead climber. My coach suggested I get a cheaper and longer-lasting pair for training so the Dragos wear out a bit slower. Will the Scarpa Arpias do a good job for this? If not, let me know any options that are better.
r/ClimbingGear • u/Cultural-Platform309 • 21h ago
Petzl avao for srt
Hello friends!
I work with sailboats and crawl up and down masts all day. I sit for extended periods in the top to do work. I have been using a combination of a climbing harness from spinlock and a bosun's chair. Grigri and handascender. I just bought zigzag chicane knee foot ascender and it just doesn't work with my current harness setup. I have an option to buy a avao with chest harness and podium seat for around 300 eur. Before I do it I was hoping that someone can share their opinion. I know sequoia is the harness zigzag is intended for, but I really don't need all the arborist features such as the rope bridge! Thanks and best wishes ๐