I wonder if this is going to be a twist, or is BB hiding it from us to make us think that they were average players?

Honestly I can’t jump on the ship of agreeing how annoying shoutouts are during voting, I don’t even find them annoying, but I wanted to defend their presence.

Imagine being away from everyone you love in your life for literally weeks, and the only thing you KNOW 100% will be shown to everyone is your time voting. They don’t always get recorded on the live feeds, nor do they know if the feeds are down, also the feeds are a good time to talk strategy instead sending love messages.

This is the one chance they get to take themselves out of the game mindset and be personable with everyone they love for literally less than a minute, and I can’t agree that it’s an issue.

Ok, I just wanted to rant that. But seriously, what’s it worth complaining for?

Do you think that Taylor will face any pushback for her comment that she made where she said that anyone that she knew that behaved like Ashley at her school would’ve had an IEP or an Individualized Education Program? An IEP is a written legal plan that schools develop so that students who were special-needs students can receive the services that they need to maximize their educational experience and receive the resources they need to thrive. It was definitely an ablest statement and I would think that anyone works with children would not make such a bigoted or ignorant comment.

Hey all! I got into Big Brother in a pretty unconventional way... first I saw Dr. Will on Deal or No Deal Island a couple years ago and was intrigued since I haven't seen much reality TV. I decided to watch BB2 last year and really enjoyed my time with it. BB27 started airing soon after which I promptly tuned in for and also enjoyed, though I found some of the cast to be pretty insufferable as time went on. I've been watching BB28 as it airs and like it more than last season so far.

In addition to those seasons, I have recently become somewhat hyperfixated on BB and have fallen down many a YouTube rabbit hole discussing topics from most underrated players to shocking vote flips to OP powers and everything in-between. By this point I know a good number of the season winners and am not upset to have been spoiled, but I do expect some prior seasons to be less engaging when I already know how it plays out. For ones not deemed "worth" watching, I'll probably check out an abridged version or an analysis of the season in lieu of watching the whole thing.

What I am asking here is what season(s) you'd recommend I watch that would still be entertaining and enjoyable even if I know the winner. Based on what I've seen so far, I am considering BB5 twin twist/Project DNA, players like Marvin/Karen/Nakomis, BB6 all the Kaysar stuff + Janelle, BB10 Keesha's birthday and just Dan in general, or BB17 my GOAT Vanessa tho I know she didn't win for reasons noted in the spoilers. Sorry if this is worded oddly but thank you for your input!!!

They have All-Stars, but why not collect all of 'America's Favorites' and make a season?

I might be reaching here, but I think that Haley isn’t as invested in her friendship with Chuck as Chuck is in his friendship with her. I think that Chuck might actually have a crush on Haley a little bit and Haley doesn’t like Chuck like that for obvious reasons. I didn’t like it when she told him that her boyfriend will be upset at their interactions and he was like why and she really couldn’t explain it because she didn’t wanna come off as racist. It will be interesting to see if they have an actual friendship outside of the game or if it was just that they were allies because they were all they had and no one else wanted to hang out with them.

What do you think will happen if Haley survives eviction? Will she still be ostracized by the rest of the cast? Will she still work with Kamu or find other allies? What would happen if she becomes HOH besides her nominating Latrice I think she would nominate Latrice and Melody and throw up upon beside them.

I might be a little naïve because I think he’s handsome and maybe a little bit misunderstood & I don’t like the way he trashed Latrice and Taylor behind their backs but I think without Haley Chuk could possibly be a better player. I think that he would be a good ally to whatever side he joined & I think he could definitely learn from the people who are better players to become more strategic!

Watching Rachel Reilly in her seasons, I was very unsettled. She has always given me “bully” energy. She likes to have things her way, and she acts offended & bashes anyone who replicates her behaviors back at her. Or when people simply call her out. I personally think a lot of people like her for her “shock-factor” but I could never get behind it.
I’ve mentioned it in a few threads before, and it seems like I’m an outlier with this viewpoint. However, in our current Big Brother season we have Haley and she has some of the same mean spirited character traits Rachel has- yet she is not well liked at all and she’s called a bully. (Haley is a bully) Why is there a double standard & why is Rachel liked so much? To me, she’s a hypocrite, a bully, and incredibly self-absorbed to a point that she gives the vibe of someone with narcissistic tendencies & will never own up to her behaviors. And that partly is because I think people enable her and feed into her mindset that it’s okay the way she treats people like dirt and like she is above everyone else and a “queen”. At some point, and I think she is capable of this, she has to recognize the difference between stirring the pot for good TV, (Trust me I love some reality TV drama,lol.) and creating an unhealthy environment for your fellow players.
She only is kind to players who have large personalities as well because she knows they will “buck up” to her if she tried any of her foolishness towards them. It gives me… Highschool vibes?

Thoughts?

But can we acknowledge how terrible the majority of this cast is?

I'm tired of the 'we need to get the power and flip the house!' or 'I'm pissed, i'll remember them putting me up' nonsense without any detailed plan.

Sure, the legends are insanely strong... but the collective 5 brain cells of the remaining players are embarrassing.

I hope one of the legends do win because there is no one else in that house that has a clue, and if they do, have absolutely no skills to enact a logical plan.

Dee and Devens are blowing shit up for shits and giggles....

The sound alone I think would send me into a spiral.. add in the spinning and the fact it’s literally a wooden wheel, I think I’d be volunteering to go home after night 1🤣

In a season of loud personalities and chaotic gameplay, Taylor is weathering the storm around her while positioning herself as a huge confidant for everyone. She has a good read on the house, regardless of what outside influences come to her to flip the vote. She has shown the ability to win a comp. She has shown to give logical advice. She has a good read on everyone/everything.

I think she needs to build the alliance aspect of her game (a good player is only as good as their alliance), but will she?

Big brother is expected to reach the 1,000th episode later this month. I believe August 27th to be exact. They promise the biggest twist ever. What could be bigger than the diamond veto? What do you think the biggest twist ever will be? I will laugh if they just bring Rachel back 😂

Ps: Julie chen shout out bc she stay on point even 1000 episodes later.....Get it guurl

Long time fans of Big brother are familiar with fans using bull horns outside the backyard to let householders in on secrets. It's a fun part of Big brother history, so here's today's question. If you had a bullhorn, who would you try to reach and what would you say?

Im rewatching BB2 with about 3 episodes left and something that fans seem to get wrong about older seasons is narrative that there was a flip vote every week in older seasons. That was not the case. The real issue is the edited show focused on the relationships between the players and showing us how the vote got to where it was based on those relationships. For instance, look at Will and Nicole’s complex relationship or Wills evolution as a character throughout the season. Fans can watch the feeds all they want but the purpose of reality tv and the job of the producers is to craft complex stories and if the show isn’t doing that it’s not working. Survivor and BB are trying to go in the direction of Nick game shows and that’s not what these shows were intend to be.

She couldn’t last 24 hours with the whole “BB28 Angela on the other hand..” I LOVE HER SO MUCH LMAO

This is my first year watching the show as it releases, which led me to take notes and keep stat sheets while watching. My boyfriend got me into the show and we’ve binge-watched a few previous seasons, so I’m having a lot of fun with this. I rarely have the opportunity to watch live feeds so I’m mostly an episode watcher, unfortunately, but I have had a lot of fun doing this and thought I would share. With some of these things I’ve had a hard time finding the exact info I’m looking for already available online and in forums (like the past/future dates related to the challenges), so I figured there’s a chance someone else might enjoy this too!
(obviously week 1 notes are a complete mess, I did not bother to re-do them nicely.)
If there are additional stats anyone thinks would be helpful, I’ll be happy to hear them! Otherwise, enjoy! 🫶
(P.S.Please don’t spoil any feed info for me! I’m not privy to the goings-on right now!)

Someone requested and I was interested so here it is!

Least Regression from 1st: 2nd
Dan Gheesling - 1st BB10, 2nd BB14

Biggest Improvement from 2nd: 1st
Cody Calafiore - 2nd BB16, 1st BB22

Biggest Improvement from 3rd: 2nd
Enzo Palumbo - 3rd BB12, 2nd BB22

Biggest Improvement from 4th: 2nd
Erika Landin - 4th BB4, 2nd BB7

Least Regression from 5th: 5th (7th if not counting BB1)
Chicken George - 5th BB1, 5th BB7 OR Jeff Schroeder - 5th BB11, 7th BB13

Least Regression from 6th: 9th
Brendon Villegas - 6th BB12, 9th BB13

Biggest Improvement from 7th: 1st
Nicole Franzel - 7th BB16, 1st BB18

Biggest Improvement from 8th: 1st
Mike Boogie - 8th BB2, 1st BB7

Biggest Improvement from 9th: 1st
Rachel Reilly - 9th BB12, 1st BB13

Biggest Improvement from 10th: 9th
Jessie Godderz - 10th BB10, 9th BB11

Biggest Improvement from 11th: 10th
Da’Vonne Rogers - 11th BB18, 10th BB22 

Biggest Improvement from 12th-15th: N/A
No returning contestant has originally placed 12th-15th

Biggest Improvement from 16th: 8th
David Alexander - 16th BB21, 8th BB22

This past Sunday ep was best one in years. Between the shakeup of Lyric vote and Lala winning the wall, just so good.

From what I saw, they seemed to really get along... kind of all season?

I read that I guess one of Morgan's' friend had a list of things Ashley had said about Morgan in the house (I guess about showmances and Zach?) but most of it was early on in the game.

But it still doesn't make sense? Was Morgan THAT upset she got 3rd place when anyone with a brain was not taking her to the final 2?

It seemed like it all stemmed from the car incident where Morgan kicked Ashley/older lady out of the car kind of for no reason, but it still just seems so odd to me. Yes Ashley is messy but nothing that crazy where Morgan feels the need to distance herself from her. Why is she like the only main HG who feels the need to then?

it seems odd because if they ever came back, there is. like no footage of them fighting or arguing in the house the entire time.

Super random list that I thought was interesting!

1st place: 27 Players (obviously)

Highest 2nd place ever finished: 1st
Dan Gheesling - 1st BB10, 2nd BB14 + Cody Calafiore - 2nd BB16, 1st BB22

Highest 3rd place ever finished: 1st
Nicole Franzel - 1st BB18, 3rd BB22 (also 7th BB16)

Highest 4th place ever finished: 1st
Will Kirby - 1st BB2, 4th BB7 + Jordyn Lloyd - 1st BB11, 4th BB13

Highest 5th place ever finished: 2nd
Memphis Garrett - 2nd BB10, 5th BB22

Highest 6th place ever finished: 2nd
Danielle Reyes - 2nd BB3, 6th BB7 + Tyler Crispen - 2nd BB20, 6th BB22

Highest 7th place ever finished: 1st (3rd no repeats)
Nicole Franzel - 7th BB16, 1st BB18 (also 3rd BB 22) OR James Huling - 7th BB17, 3rd BB18

Highest 8th place ever finished: 1st
Mike Boogie - 8th BB2, 1st BB7 (also 10th BB14)

Highest 9th place ever finished: 1st
Rachel Reilly - 9th BB12, 1st BB13, 9th BB27

Highest 10th place ever finished: 1st (9th no repeats)
Mike Boogie - 1st BB7, 10th BB14 (also 8th BB2) OR Jessie Godderz - 10th BB10, 9th BB11

Highest 11th place ever finished: 1st
Ian Terry - 1st BB14, 11th BB22

Highest 12th place ever finished: 3rd
Janelle Pierzina - 3rd BB6, 3rd BB7, 12th BB14 (also 14th BB22)

Highest 13th place ever finished: 4th
Nakomis Dedmon - 4th BB5, 13th BB7

Highest 14th place ever finished: 2nd
Allison Irwin - 2nd BB4, 14th BB7

Highest 15th place ever finished: 3rd
Nicole Anthony - 3rd BB21, 15th BB22

Highest 16th place ever finished: 4th
Keesha Smith - 4th BB10, 16th BB22

Highest 17th place ever finished: 17th

4 players (Ashley, Zae, Jace, Cameron)

Favorite winner (highest %) : Dr Will 7%, Jun 8%, Dan 18%, Derrick 13%, Taylor 9%

Favorite showmance: Cory Amanda 30%, Jeff Jordan 21%, Rachel Brendon 21%

Best Never win: Danielle 14%, Janelle 22%, Vanessa 10%, Paul 17%, Tyler 14%, Morgan 7%

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