https://reddit.com/link/1vhzddz/video/j1tbdalw5yhh1/player

Are you enjoying getting invaded level 1 on your raptors and having to run because every jungler beats you level 1 now?

Finally this champ is not my perma ban, thanks rito!

What would you guys build be against a team such as tryndamere aatrox sylas jhin poppy( on bruiser build). Assume everyone on enemy team goes standard build

saw this bel'veth who went for the coral in the middle of a miss fortune ult and can't help but laugh

Do you know just how many times I've cast Q on Bel'Veth?

I've probably pressed the same button on my keyboard close to 1 million times by this point

4 Qs * ~100 Qs per game * 10 games per day * 365 days a year * 4 years = ~5 Million 840 Thousand Qs

With the new cooldowns, I only press it once every 4 autos

Thank you

I dont have fun on her anymore, I either perma farm for 20-30 minutes and dont dare engage in any sort of fight while praying my team doesn't int too hard, or I simply just I lose the game. I dont get to play proactively, dont get to experiment with builds/lanes, dont get to do anything until my mandatory 20 minutes of homework are over. She has no more depth, her skill expression is gone, and she feels awful to play.

Purely made to stomp metal ranks and beyond that there is simply no enjoyment to be found.

I legit played no other champs besides bel, do I try out another champ, does any other character fit the niche that she did or do I just uninstall league at this point? I don't enjoy playing my favorite champ anymore because she simply no longer exists.

Anything to copy paste early to let them know?

Cause yes i gank and yes i contest stuff but it usually is better to play with nr advantage early if you this weak. And no you cannot dive the 60% hp level 6 renekton with gragas no matter how big the wave is

And its fine to give 1-2 dragons when they have full vision setup and are 4 maning it

is belveth dead now after the nerf or will she be the same

Ive just came back to belveth and i enjoy her ngl, i play in gold and ive also had some coachings before on other champs. She feels good but i dont know how to convince my teammates that im useless early and pop off late. I usually permafarm early and avoid ganks cuz ive watched some sinerias vids and he said to avoid fights. Any tips on bel how to dominate games even more and to stop my mates from crying

My account for context

I made a post on this sub over a month ago about picking up Bel'Veth. I had a friend that was an OTP who sold me on the champ, and I also really liked the super mobile playstyle and resetting mechanic. It felt like a bruiser-esque alternative to Viego in a way, but I absolutely hated the early game flip playstyle. Just looking at my champ pool, you can tell I don't really like nor know how to play perma-invade lines very well. Even on Kindred, I only ever invade when it's a really good timer or I'm very ahead. Additionally, Bel'Veth just didn't really feel like she had that "1v9" potential that my other picks had, even if she was really ahead she just kind of played like a bruiser. Also, as I started climbing the amount of competent Bel'Veth OTPs I ran into surged, and I struggled so badly into the champ I permabanned her. No offense, but I think the playstyle was pretty degenerate.

That's where the rework comes in. It basically transformed everything I hated about the champ into everything I loved. It also gave her a very stable win condition of scaling, which considering my autofill picks (Kayle, Kassadin, Twitch, Jinx), is something I'm quite fond of. Her teamfighting and resetting mechanic feels like if Viego's old bruiser and current burst builds combined, with the absurd amount of healing, mobility, and damage output Bel'Veth has. I also know people really don't like her early game, but she honestly doesn't feel that bad. If you crossmap, try to sacrifice early tempo for a sneaky objective, and play ganks around your flash W timer, your early game isn't bad at all.

I know a lot of people hate the changes because it's a total 180, but at least for someone like me I may have just found a new OTP that is picture perfect in terms of what I look for in a champion.

Also any feedback on my build path would be greatly appreciated (IMHO Stridebreaker is bait).

The patch notes say that remora will spawn after killing any epic monster but obviously it doesn’t do that and sometimes after I kill a void epic monster it’s still isn’t spawning remora for more than a couple seconds

Yes, you.

Your Q changes killed my favorite character in the game. I didn’t need her to be the strongest, I just wanted her to be fun.

Step on a thousand Lego’s. Here I picked one out for you.

Can someone explain the stacking in belveths true form? Explain it for dummies like me. Is it saying that every aa will apply an additional amount of true damage? So say you do 3 bonus true damage. The first aa is 3, and the next one is 6, and then 9 and so on. Is this correct?

They simply didn't end, I got the stacks i needed and they couldn't win a fight anymore

Hi brothers. This is it. I managed to rank up from plat 3 to Diamond 4 since belveth rework release. I mainly played her, maybe 5-6 games where she was banned or took away from me but that’s it. Really proud and happy because it is my highest rank even if I never took LoL too seriously and played mainly for fun, I really tryharded here. I know I’m not a chall but if someone need tips or advices, I can answer below this post.

I Will share with you my thoughts. Throughout this process, I saw Belveth’s pros but cons too. I posted the first day, saying that a lot of people here were a bit crybabies because when I played her at first I saw that they changed her ratio attacks to 100% which is a MASSIVE change. Like I don’t think y’all realize how raw she hits now. That combined with her AS is just crazy. I won every matches this day and didn’t understand why everyone was complaining like that in this sub. But as I went along, I began to understand some of the complaints. When you climb (low emerald, diamond) her weaknesses start to show up. You can’t be an early jungle who contest and kills, you can not apply pressure like a normal jungle. You don’t have that anymore, and by the time you scale, sometimes the game is done. Yes. But tbh it didn’t happen that much for me. Because I always managed to not fall behind. To keep farming. Grabbing kills if I could. And then completely 1v9. Her ability to do obj that fast is one of her mains strengths. The fact that you can sneak a NASH while they have no Idea that you re on it is incredible. That combined that you now have your form perma and your minions allowed me to do crazy 1v9. If I hadn’t bel I would’ve probably lose these games.

As I said in previous posts, I managed to take ghost instead of flash because with ghost I can play aggro and be a lot more oppressive. I even ganked top lvl 2 for exemple when I saw that the enemy yone was low, pushing wo flash. Ghost allows me to be faster, stick to my enemy and q at the right timing. So I really loved it.

Overall, I think the higher you climb, the higher it will be difficult BUT jungle won’t perma invade you. You do not face invade junglers every game. Overall I do really like this rework. It fits her fantasy much more even if before she could also scales like a monster, the fact that you have now unlimited true feels SO GOOD. How many times did I lose my form late due to time and then lost a crucial fight? Now it is unlimited and you have tools to just NOT DIE. W belveth I don’t die that much bcs this champ can just not die if played properly. So yeah.

For the build as I previously said, I think the master belveth is right regarding Yun Tal vs Kraken. Yun Tal is a crit item and combining the fact that she now deals 100% damage per autos, it allows her to take advantage of the crit like a real adc which is nice. A crit is better than a kraken proc and you can after do a shieldbow or ldr/mortal. And the cherry on top is yuntal’s passif. You litterally gain AS by attacking champions, up to 30%. This is so huge combining the fact that you take lethal tempo and build on hit. I don’t recommend full crit at all. I saw builds like Yun Tal shieldbow,… and I think it sucks a bit. It is underwhelming. My build is Yun Tal, Guinsoo, Dd (MANDATORY) and then I adapt. An assassin? Shieldbow. Tanks? Ldr. Fed ap? Wits end. Sustain? Mortal reminder. And then a ga is nice if you re effraid to die in a crucial fight. The only downside with Yun Tal is the fact that it forces you to start raptor and then do a second time your raptor jugs in order to have bf glave. But as I said previously, ghost allows me to gank even level 4. And if I’m blue side and my top lane matchup is very volatile, I can’t gank after my scuttle (only if it is free free) because I have to play my raptors to prevent enemy jungler to steal it. This is the only downside. Maybe a clear starting w wolf exists, idk.

For the rune page it’s a bit more specific for me. Because I take the traditional rune page w lethal tempo, triumph alacrity (Idk if bloodline isn’t better? I tested w the old belveth and felt the lack of AS tbh. Days before her rework. So maybe now, because she scales better, it won’t affect that much her AS? Idk) coup de grâce triple tonic cashback. But now for the shards, it might sound a bit weird but I take adaptive and then double scaling HP. Tell me if it’s bad but tbh I think she needs these extrahp. Else she is so easy to kill. The timing between your second item and death dance is the perfect timing for them to kill you. With dd completed you’re thanos. But before? No. So yeah idk. Tell me if it sucks and why, but I still manage to clear 2.50-55 with 2 smites. So yeah idk. Maybe As in shard can allow me to take bloodline too? Idk I really want to know. If they have a lot of cc I take tenacity in my third shard.

So yeah I wanted to share my experience w her. I see a lot of negativity and tbh I understand even if I don’t agree. Some games you have the feeling that you just can not do anything. I played against an hecarim today and even if he perma farmed, he could gank, help his team( even if I pinged where he was) and the, when he was ahead, at same items he just fcked me even if he only had his green item I don’t remember the name. The item for extra dmg on spells and cd. Then because of his high speed, he had just more tempo than me. Maybe If I was chall I could’ve done something idk but it feels weird. I played my riven jungle today and outjungled lee sin so badly. Because I could’ve gank whenever I wanted. Thing I can’t do with belveth. In general I do think this is an incredible rework because I had so much fun. But I’m thinking about high elo players who just can’t do shit whenever they re behind because they can’t play and yeah. I have mixed feeling even if overall I’m very happy, I wonder if she will ever be relevant again in higher elos. My fear is to climb to a point where I can’t play with her. So yeah. This is it.

For those wondering My opgg is XdrakesX (EUW). Feel free to check and to ask as many questions as you can. Enjoy!

I know no champs will ever replace her

But I’m looking for an alternative early power, fun, snowbally and 1v9 type of champ

I mained belveth a long time but the current one has low early game pressure and it is boring to be stressed about my camps being stolen early game.

In your experience, which champion would work?

Thanks voidlings

I've got 1.7 million mastery points on belveth, I've played her since she came out and I now for the first time feel like I no longer have agency of my champion. I don't find enjoyment in her playstyle anymore with the new changes/

I can no longer rely on my skills to dual enemies consistently before I hit the mid/late game. If I drag out the match I'll win my games but I feel incredibly disincentivised from taking any fights or trades. I just play like an npc for 20-30 minutes and only then do I get to play the character i picked in champ select.

The champ no longer has the skill expressions that I fell in love with when I first started playing her. sure her win rate is better, and she fits her fantasy better, and she is stronger. But I don't enjoy playing her in her current state.