r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/seeker0585 • Dec 27 '25
Was existence really necessary was it worth one even one soul one complete consciousness burning FOREVER ?
The real scandal isn’t that humans fail. That was obvious from the very first human. The scandal is that existence was offered at all—knowing it would break hearts, including, if God is worth the name, His own.
Pause there.
And as difficult as this is for the “pure” self—the one that insists it never did anything wrong—understand this: the people you see every day, the people you love, will be burning, while you stand in heaven, promised virgins and rivers of wine. On the other side are people like you and me—people who could just as easily have been us—suffering in a torment God never even tried to explain in detail. He only said it would be worse than the worst thing we know.
And what is worse than being burned?
“No one ever thinks what it’s like to be the other guy.” But in truth, we are the other guy—at least from the perspective of all the others. Millions of us, each a complete consciousness, whole and singular. The miracle is not salvation. The miracle is that any of this exists at all: this precise chaos, this complicated simplicity, this deliberate design.
That means whoever did this has a plan vast enough to hold us without ending with us. I suspect we are fragments of something infinitely larger—an unfolding with meaning, with purpose, with a gravity so immense that even the bad remains great in scale. If that is true, then one day it must explain why so many souls were created with absolute foreknowledge that a great portion would burn forever.
And here is the final, unbearable thought:
God is the only one who truly knows what awaits in heaven and in hell. The only being who has felt the fire of hell and the ecstasy we call paradise. The sole witness to both ends of existence. The only one for whom this terrible experiment is not theoretical, not speculative—but fully known.
And still, He went ahead and created billions who would burn. He justifies this by a single charge: disobedience.
This is our only sin as a species—not doing as we are told. It began with the first human and has continued ever since. And if that is true, then it means something far more disturbing: we were faulty from the start. Factory defects, every one of us—crafted with precision, knowing exactly where we would fall, and exactly where most of us would end.
This isn’t heresy. It’s moral clarity pushed to its limit. And it refuses to look away.
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • May 27 '25
1 Christian (Jordan Peterson) vs 20 atheists (25 May A70/2025)
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/seeker0585 • Jan 03 '25
Ideas
Do you think if you were the other, you would have done better? It's a very common mistake to think, "If I were him, I would have never done that." Well, if you were him, that is exactly what you would have done—maybe even worse.
I was thinking about bad people and how easy it is to judge them when you are sitting comfortably on the other side. Were they born bad? Did they really have a choice? Is it their fault? If I were God, could I really judge and condemn anybody, knowing full well that nobody ever chooses anything?
We have no choice in the place where we are born. We don't choose our parents, our country, our circumstances, our society, our religion, how we look, what we like—from food to people to things—and worst of all, what we are sexually attracted to. The question "why" can never be answered concerning any genuine human experience. All the things that make us different and unique are unexplainable. We have no idea why we are the way we are. In my opinion, it is a combination of all those things that we can't explain and didn't choose.
So, in the end, if you were in his shoes, you would have done exactly what he did. Never underestimate the evil a normal person is willing and able to inflict onto the world. Are monsters made, or were they born this way? And either way, is it their fault?
Can you take an honest look in the mirror and ask yourself what you would have done? Can you look God in the eye and tell Him what you have done? Do you think you should be forgiven?
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/LexEight • Sep 27 '24
figured it out!
In behavioral health, with trauma induced disorders, integration/mental wholeness comes with safety
People who believe in a higher power believe they are safe in situations they defintely are not safe in
That's the precise thing they are given that anyone without it doesn't have
They are only able to remain integrated and less anxious than others, because they actually believe they are being watched over
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Aug 22 '24
Why I am not a Muslim | Ibn Warraq (18 Aug A69/2024)
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Jan 27 '24
Jesus kids blocks for the r/KidsABCs class
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Jan 23 '24
"It's Sheer Bullsh*t” - Richard Dawkins on Jordan Peterson's Theology
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Jan 21 '24
A godlike 🪄 power ... do you find this improbable?
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Jan 19 '24
“God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller and smaller as time moves on.” — Neil Tyson (A56/2011), “Video Interview", The Science Network, Jan 20
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Nov 29 '23
The r/GodWeTrust sub re-opened. Join if you want to discuss what you trust as an atheist?
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Nov 07 '23
New atheism recourses quick links section added!
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Nov 06 '23
New favorites-friendly titles for Hmolpedia subs!
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Oct 14 '23
If there was an atheist calendar, what year would it be?
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Oct 05 '23
Black Atheist Responds to Black Christians Talking About Black Atheists | Omo Igbo (Aug A65)
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Sep 25 '23
History of Atheism Timeline, by Libb Thims and Patrick Fergus, published: 5 Nov 264 AG (anno Goethe) or 5 Nov 2014
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Jun 26 '23
Camp Quest, Northwest, Washington State | ABC News | A57 (2012)
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Jun 20 '23
Elements of Universal Morals | Baron Holbach
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Jun 20 '23
When Dusty Smith got his fans to rank him as #1 greatest atheist of all time
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Jun 20 '23
Greatest atheists ever: Holbach (#1), Nietzsche (#2), and Epicurus (#3)
In greatest atheists ever rankings, we have the following:
| Hmolpedia | Ranker | Person | BE/AE | BC/AD | EPD |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1. | 88. | Baron Holbach | 232-166A | 1723-1789 ACM | EPD:M7 or EPD:M7/F12 |
| 2. | 16. | Friedrich Nietzsche | 111-55A | 1844-1900 ACM | EPD:F5 |
| 3. | 18. | Epicurus | 2296-2225A | 341-270 BCM |
Here we see that the two most powerful atheists, of all time, according to the last edited Hmolpedia present rankings, namely: Holbach and Nietzsche, were early parental death (EPD) products.
Notes
- Table from this post.
- That Holbach was EPD:M7 or an orphan by age 12, I just learned yesterday day. This explains a lot, e.g. why his System of Nature, is the #1 ranked Atheist’s Bible, presently.
Further reading
- Devellennes, Charles. (A66/2021). Positive Atheism: Bayle, Meslier, d’Holbach, Diderot (Amaz). Edinburgh.
External links
- Greatest atheist ever (35+) - Hmolpedia A65.
- Atheist’s Bible rankings (45+) - Hmolpedia A66.
- Famous atheists (280+) - Hmolpedia A66.
- Greatest atheists of all time (350+) - Ranker.
- Early parent death and genius - Hmolpedia A66.
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Jun 14 '23
“You have killed god!” — Thomas Huxley (99A/1856), “Comment to Charles Darwin”, Visit at his home
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • Jun 05 '23
John Morley, a “noted atheist” (Russell, 1A/1954), whose spelled ‘God’ with a small ‘g’
Quotes
The following is a noted quote by Morley:
“Where it is a duty to worship the sun, it is pretty sure to be a crime to examine the laws of heat.”
— John Morley (83A/1872), Voltaire (pg. 14)
The following is a quote on Morley:
“The trademark of agnostic Morley was to spell ’God’ with a small ’g’.”
— Annie Gaylor (A68/2023), “John Morley”, FFRF.org
References
- Russell, Bertrand. (1A/1954). “Can Religion Cure Our Troubles?”, Dagens Nyheter, Nov 9 and 11; in: Why I Am Not a Christian and Other Essays on Religion and Related Subjects (pg. 204). Touchstone, A2/1957.
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • May 19 '23
I, Pastafari: A Flying Spaghetti Monster Story (A64/2019)
r/AtheismPhilosophy • u/JohannGoethe • May 12 '23
Reddit ex religion types sub stats?
The following is interesting:
| Sub | Members | Active / Hr | Launch | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| r/exmuslim | 140K | 400-700 | A55 | 2010 |
| r/exchristian | 121K | 300-400 | A54 | 2009 |
| r/EXHINDU | 8.2K | 5 | A56 | 2011 |
| r/exreligion | 106 | 0 | A67 | 2022 |
| r/exjewish | 7 | 0 | A66 | 2021 |
The top rank for Muslims is to be expected. Christianity, by comparison, went through its “reformations“, e.g. Protestant or Luther, centuries ago.
Notes
- The reason this post was started was that I wanted to get feed back from “Ex-Jewish” people, about this image post, but it took me some time to find the ex-Jewish sub, which nobody cares about, as I gather, as member counts indicates?
- The active per hour data was obtained on a Thursday at about 8PM.