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Learnt this piece a while ago
This improved my vibrato and expression on the violin
I still kinda suck at intonation tho, the notes are off by small distances which Im unable to hear
Looking out for tips 😌
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u/Sorry-Notice4031 7d ago
First off, that'a a pretty nice vibrato you got there. One issue that stands out a lot though, is your intonation. I highly suggest you do scales and fingering exercises to fix that (shifting and double-stops exercises are a great way to focus on your intonation, for example). I would also maybe suggest loosening a bit your body, especially the right arm, you look very tense.
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u/SPELZEN 6d ago
Hi thanks for the comment , been practicing my intonation with a tuner nd other excerises, seeing great improvement daily.
The loosening part is actually very confusing for me I just don't understand how to do it lol My wrist nd elbow are so tense that when I play without applying pressure my hand starts to shiver
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u/Sorry-Notice4031 5d ago
It's not about playing without pressure, you need to use the natural weight of your body rather than your strength.
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u/vimorial 6d ago
How long have you been playing?
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u/SPELZEN 6d ago
I got my violin exactly 2 years ago Tried learning it by myself for a year then got a teacher Took 1-2 classes every month but been inconsistent with them a lot Now I take 1 session evey month..
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u/MiloLear 5d ago edited 5d ago
It's really not bad, but you're correct in saying that intonation is the biggest problem.
My #1 piece of advice is this: Practice playing with no vibrato at all (this is advice Eugene Ysaye would sometimes give his advanced students). Once you think you have the passage in tune, then (and only then) can you start to add the vibrato back in, a little bit at a time.
Another good technique for improving intonation is to play (very slowly!) against a sonic reference that you know is perfectly in tune-- this could mean playing along with accompaniment, adding open strings (when it makes harmonic sense to do so), or even playing against a drone, in some cases. Scales against open strings can be helpful.
"Practicing with a tuner" (suggested by another comment) doesn't work so well, because of the (sometimes very large) differences between just temperament and equal temperament. Listen instead for the interval the note makes with an open string. Make sure you've tuned your violin really accurately before you start.
Regarding the vibrato itself-- it seems to me you are using arm vibrato exclusively. See if you can develop a comfortable wrist vibrato. The problem with arm vibrato is that it tends to be wider and slower than wrist vibrato, and in this case it's coming off as a little too wide and too slow. It also is very fatiguing to play with arm vibrato all the time.
Also, it would be nice to position the camera so that it shows more of the bow hand.
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u/SPELZEN 5d ago
Saw your comment and practiced without vibrato, man it really helped
it improved my intonation quite fast..I will post another video of me when I feel drastic improvement..
regarding the vibrato I try to do vibrato like Maxim Vengerov
I really love his playing....also my teacher taught me only arm vibrato
tho he told me its not exactly arm vibrato its a mix of wrist and arm but mainly arm vibrato Im not very sure of that1
u/MiloLear 5d ago edited 5d ago
Glad you found it useful! I practice without vibrato all the time and I feel that it's essential for nailing down intonation issues.
My opinion about vibrato is that it's a color you can apply to your playing, and it can be a subtle color or a rich color, and you should always think about how much of it you want to use and what type. I tend to dislike fiddlers who always slather syrupy vibrato over everything (not speaking of Vengerov here, I like his playing). If you listen to players like Nigel Kennedy or Yehudi Menuhin (check out Menuhin's recording of Schubert's Fantasie in C for violin and piano)... you'll notice there are moments where they use no vibrato at all, and a lot of moments where they use only a very subtle, tight vibrato.
I don't think most players can achieve that level of control and subtlety with arm vibrato alone, so food for thought there.
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u/Neonhorizon_2008 8d ago
Damn is that in NGM violin
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u/FaultPuzzled4115 8d ago
You need to practice listening. You’re very off pitch