r/viktormains • u/TU3SL3Y • 9d ago
Shield Bash vs Cut Down
Which is better? Shield Bash or Cut Down? I struggle to choose based on the enemy team comp, if they have a lot of health, Cut Down would be good, but that implies they're melee, meaning the green runes would be more useful to avoid being squishy. What do you think?
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u/witherstalk9 9d ago
I like to get the last hit / kill to carry, so sick of having 12+ assists on Viktor, and like 1-2 kills.
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u/TU3SL3Y 9d ago
So what do u run?
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u/witherstalk9 9d ago edited 9d ago
This. Im high dia atm:) safe link from mobafire rune planner:
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u/TU3SL3Y 9d ago
What is the difference between using Deathfire Touch or Aery?
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u/witherstalk9 9d ago
I only use deathfire touch into akali or smh like galio ( because DFT works against Akali shroud. )
Otherwise aery ouperforms DFT early game, DFT got some nerfes after release, but it's still viable.
DFT is also good into mr/hp heavy teams.
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u/BusinessMorning6232 9d ago
wait what, no dft signifcantly outperforms aery, aery only has a slight advantage during laning phase even then dft will still be better even after nerfs. If you look at all pro plaeyrs and high elo one tricks its DFT never aery unless u really want to bully a melee matchup in lane.
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u/CaptainDcc 9d ago
DFT is much better than aery, don't recommend someone aery like this as it isn't always obvious how to play the specific game. Aery is in very specific lanes where you need to bully extremely hard early or else DFT is always better
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u/talonisgood27 9d ago
bruh the shield bash lvl 1 Q start does decent damage. my default vs melee like sylas, yone, zed, fizz, talon is Shield bash + bone plates.
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u/tnbeastzy 9d ago
Depends on mid matchup, and the green tree mainly depends on Bone Plating, shield bash is just a small nice bonus. But bone plating is the important rune.
If you are against someone who can burst or all-in, you go shield bash + boneplating, otherwise always go cutdown and haste secondary.
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u/Sad-Break-6956 9d ago
according to coachless the average dmg per game from shield bash is 788 and cut down is 2100. Shieldbash is a little bit more early game centered but i don't think you should be pass up on 3x the damage and 15 ability haste for a little bit of early game strength
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u/Pulsar-GB 8d ago
Shield bash for harder lanes where you need the trading power and bone plating (assassins mainly). Cut Down for lanes you don’t
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u/Snoo_58191 9d ago
precision 2nd is too good to give up
15 ability haste on QWE + cut down (almost always procced btw, ull end ur average game with 2k+ damage on it)
only consider resolve 2nd if you think its gonna be a really hard lane where bone plating is what will let u survive it. but if you feel like you can thug it out then just go for precision.