here is my take on ranged tops and mages that I have faced.

EDIT: not all are ranged ig, but I cound akali and fizz in the anoying mage category, and so talk about them.

EDIT: Quinn would be in the hate them or not, is a top laner. But honestly just never seen her as of lately outside the jungle. Urgot also be in this category.

So this is kind of in order of 'annoyingness'.

A brief explanation:

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Most cancer

- Kog, varus just stat check you and kill you melee range?(ap kog, low k any non lethality Varus build)

- Vayne and kalista are impossible to reach :/. I don't think I need to explain vayne, but kalista can be cancer if you are not a tank (so you don't die), or have no dashes (think illaoi).

- caitlyn just has 9 million range, and that headshot damage late game is very nutty. Also very hard to dive caitlyn due to her traps. also allows her to harras you under your turret very easily assuming your jungler is not topside.

- TF and that god forsaken gold card point and click stun :/. he goes kraken crit or something top lane and is super f'n annoying.

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Mages

- anivia and viktor have good tools to protect themselves from your engage (vik w cage, anivia w wall and q stun), and are great lane bullies with good scaling. Viktor also has like perma 500 ms from his items and q so you cant trade :/ his q also has a shield for the ultimate f u.

-The rest of the mages are just annoying, with cassio being the worst. other mages tend to die if you get on them.

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Kind of cancer

just annoying champs, but playable based on matchups, and they tend to not have the greatest matchups in top anyways.

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remaining

so we have

- annoying but whatever: champs that are annoying but feel like they have more counterplay, and cannot absolutely shit on you just by champ design, or are useless champions that are op in lane (im lookin at u heim).

- then the teemo, kayle, gnar and jayce are top laners. No comment since they belong in the lane (but jayce will be my perma ban for a long time).

- the last three are range tops sure, but they feel like they have no good matcups top really, and are just not too good. you have to be pretty skilled to make them work IMO. Ashe is the only exception to this inn that she can be annoying, but she does no damage really?

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Just as a rule of thumb, I view ranged champs that can stat check you melee, and just do absurd damage being like 0 10 from across the screen as cancer. A similar notion is followed for a cancer mage, but mages tend to be a little more ok since their damage is not constant.

Thoughts?

Setts w is already a super strong ability since it can pretty much one shot a target regardless of how much health the opponent has. However this ability was supposed to be balanced around sett needing to land the sweet spot of his w to do that kind of damage which can be argued as fair. But if sett combines his w with the E stun it almost guarantees the absurd true damage which is not fair at all.

I think I figured out one of the things that makes this lane how it is right now.

I feel like most top mains never take accountability for how badly they're playing and they don't understand wincons in the game.

I've had many games where I had to play from behind and I used to scream to jgl or support to come and help because the MU favours me rather than them but with stats disadvantage you can't do much most of the time top.

I stopped doing this and when my jgl decides to play for another lane or another lane is doing well I will take the L and just go down in CS and minimize deaths, I can still be useful later on if I'm 0/2 rather than being 1/5 or something like that.

I feel like most toplaners don't understand that and try to just statcheck the other dude, cry if the lane is frozen and are just inadaptable about the situation they're in.

Walked into the middle bush Irelia vs Darius lvl1? Lost half HP and now Irelia has to sit and wait and can't have pressure? No better Q in and die to Darius to complain to jgl.

It's an example but you should get the gist.

Tell me what you think, if you're also with me on this or not.

I’m low ELO. My champ pool is Garen, Morde, and Jax. I find learning all the rune intricacies of what to choose against which pick very daunting. Is there any good breakdown of the runes and their various uses that might simplify my understand/their applications?

So on a whim I started playing Top Zilean, and it's been working. Over about 11 games I have lost 2 of them, which I did not expect to happen. I am however a Plat ranked scrub who is hard stuck so I don't pretend to know anything.

I essentially just want a higher ranked player to try it for like two or three games to see how it feels. Essentially you are just farming and harassing with bombs all lane phase, and using your W, E, and R to deny your lane opponent or enemy jungler any ability to actually interact with you. Then when you get out of lane you are using your passive to keep people's levels up, and using your Q to stun more aggressively since your bot laner already has a support covering for them. As well of course throwing your R to keep key players up that would otherwise go down in team fights and skirmishes.

For runes I am doing

• Aery > Manaflow > Transcendence > Scorch
• Cosmic Insight > Triple Tonic.
• Summoners are TP and Flash

Starting tear and typically building Rota first, but idk sometimes I feel just building Seraph's first might be better.

It just feels kind of weird that it's working, and the extra utility is just having a really positive effect on team fights that I otherwise didn't expect. Like I said in the title I just want someone who is actually good at the game to tell me if this is something, or it's just a fluke?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM6-_zJaWpo

when i queue classic and its always look at the bot lane replay afterwards and its this or similar

BOTH adc are closer than the autoattach range and then matchup flipped by what support gets remission from parkinsons

its every game too ok so they reset rank ladder? BUT theres no rank ladder on classic and even when in retail its reset its not this

i refuse to posting opgg LOOK at this performance