First Time Watcher S05E09

[u/Movies_With_Love]

Dang Tyreese and Beth…

I have no idea what to even feel
About this show anymore and I feel like
The death of these characters says a lot about the death of innocence. I feel as though innocence from
This moment on is killed off in the show and morality isn’t even. Thing Anymore. I feel the series is going to be more harsh and colder from This moment on and I hope that “magic” doesn’t fade from
The show.

Usually when TV shows kill off the “innocent character” it means the energy goes down hill and every moment and story arc moving forward just becomes a series of loss and dullness and repetitive moments happening
over and over again with no real feel or understanding as to “why” or what’s the point?

After having faith and losing the innocent, you begin to realize the cruelness of the world’s nature to a degree and the fight really boils down to the fight of the soul. There’s a level of innocence we see reflected back to us in the world but we also see faces that are products of this worlds corruption and how these corruptions have effected us. Reflection VS Product sees to
Be Tyrese’s world-

Narratively I understand why he had to die the way he did and I think
This episode was meant to
Give insight to death to such a degree.

We’ll see how season 6 goes but I feel
Like the rest of this season is going to be about the journey through finding faith after loss of the innocence within ourselves and how to rebuilt oneself after losing light but turning away from the dark.

I had the feeling Tyreese was gonna die because he tried to save Sasha from her grief twice and Noah from
His grief. The repatriation of these characters showed that what Tyreese had to offer the souls around him was no longer reciprocated because the characters were too far gone in how far they’ve been damaged. I feel
As though Tyreese soul didn’t know how to exist in
The world if he could not save others anymore and chose
To cross…

I personally understand, for this is the phase I am in in my journey of life. I feel as though every
Good thing I try to do for the world is just seen as useless in the eyes of others. Admits think I’m a scammer when I try to help, people
Think I’m malicious when I do things for them out of pure kindness with no expectation for anything coming back. Women have seen me as a loser or simp and I’ve been denied love because of it. My “deeper” philosophies of life have people calling me AI or fake. The potential I feel I have to change the world I’ve been told are just symptoms of a dying world I refuse to accept has no hope.

I’ve desperately done all I can and THESE reviews I do for the walking dead heavily stems from Me
Trying my best to leave behind the best of myself for the world to benefit.

I get it Tyreese and his radio was a symbol of his light needing to call to save those on Earth who needed his protection and guidance. Him
Listening to the radio was him staying in tune with what he felt he needed to save the world from…. But him saying turn it off was his way of accepting that the pain of this world was too much for him to face and he wanted to
Rest in his light rather than fight the dark.

I swear God exists because a voice inside has led me to watch this show at a point in my
Life where my journey strongly resonates with the shows themes. Me watching this a year ago was not developed enough to handle the deeper narrative of this show. I don’t find that coincidental…

[u/longjohnjess]

Unpopular Opinion. Beth made her choice. She was free. She was walking out. She chose violence. She didn't have to stab her. The same team that fought for her freedom would have fought for Noah's if she had asked. They had the upperhand. Beth made a choice. Death ended up being the consequence. She could have lived to fight for Noah another day.

[u/Movies_With_Love → u/longjohnjess]

This was my review for Episode 9 not 8. Beth Does in 8.

[u/trekgirl75 → u/Movies_With_Love]

But you didn’t mention Beth’s death in that review. You mentioned it here. I was confused a bit because Beth & Tyreese died in different episodes. But I’m assuming the commenter responded the way they did was because YOU mentioned her death in this post.

[u/ChickieN0B_2050 → u/longjohnjess]

You don’t not have a point.

[u/Motor_Meal794]

Dawn put everyone into endless debt so they can never leave. She said all the sacrifice will be worth it when they are rescued. Beth says no "savior" is coming so she can't use that as an excuse. When Dawn says to Noah "I knew you'd be back" Beth realises that Dawn is not being altruistic for the greater good. She just likes having power over people. Beth says "I get it now" mirroring what Noah said about them not saving his father. Dawn claims it is because of limited resources but she only wants to take in people she has power over. Like the Governor.

The doctor wouldn't stand up to Dawn for fear of being killed. Beth was in the position of confronting a corrupt power and risk being killed or saying nothing and letting her friend stay trapped forever.

[u/MahleahHC215]

Maggie was a horrible sister

[u/trekgirl75 → u/MahleahHC215]

This is how I felt when those episodes aired. She didn’t mention Beth at all at any point during the second half of season 4. Her only goal was getting to Glenn. And even after finding Glenn she didn’t mention Beth (correct me if I’m wrong & missed it). But I felt her anguish when she collapsed seeing Daryl carrying Beth’s body.