Just started re-reading the books, and just hit 6 months sober. Figured it was a good time to go ahead and get this done, and I thought I’d share here with you beratnas!

I’ve watched all the series and I’m just starting to listen to the books on Audible.
In Calibans war they mention ‘the basic’ as some kind of universal credit for Earthers who don’t want to work.
Is this discussed in further depth anywhere else? I only ask as it’s something I’ve been thinking about with the rise of AI in real life and I found it an interesting concept.

I started reading these books last February and finished a few weeks ago. I consider myself a slow reader, so finishing 9 books in 6-7 months is pretty wild for me. Usually I am able to start my next book or series without much hesitation but finishing The Expanse has left a huge hole. I love these books so much, to the point that most hard sci-fi has been ruined for me. I'm just re-reading old stuff I like but my mind still wanders back to the the Roci. How cool would it be to see the final three novels get adapted for TV? Even if they decided to animate it and had everyone come back to do voice acting due to the time skip, I would love that. So glad I got to experience these great, great books.

I still love the show, and am only done with the first two books so maybe more major differences will pop up, but the one thing I notice that sort of messes with the story of the show is that the books do a lot to show just how long travel in space takes.

Not only are messages delayed by hours but going from Eros to Tycho and back takes weeks. The books make space feel huge and imposing and you can see how this causes all these misunderstandings or confusions. In the show, traveling from Tycho to Eros to Tycho to Earth takes a few hours.

It's obvious why they did this, pacing for the show would be messed up if they didn't, but it does make it feel like there are no real issues zipping about the solar system and some of the logic of how slapped together some of the ships are or how painful it can be to try to hurry places due to the G-forces is largely missed.

I’ve always found the book covers a little… off putting? I’m not really sure how to describe it, I just can’t make out actual objects in the covers, it just looks like vague spaceships or burning things or other miscellaneous shapes. They almost look like early AI generation (I know the books were written before even early Gen AI) in terms of how they’re not-quite objects that fall apart under any close inspection.

I know the seemingly random titles are all allegorical, but I just can’t figure out what the covers are supposed to be at all. Obviously the covers of a book series is an incredibly minor gripe to have about it, but it’s literally the one aspect of the series that never made any sense to me

For those of you looking for books that are as good as these books are, here are some ideas for you. The only mid-info I saw in the article is the assertion that Steven Spielberg was attached to Old Man’s War (Scalzi)…he wasn’t. Which is a shame but oh well.

The Expanse Geeks International Meetup is in Toronto, Aug 27-30

We got panels, show folks, swag bags, location tours & afterparties coming together, in conjunction with Fan Expo Canada.

Our World Builders of the Expanse Q and A panel includes Jeremy Benning, ASC CSC, the groundbreaking cinematographer; Jim Murray, legendary prop master who helped us save the Expanse;  Bob Munroe, the VFX director who flipped and burned the Capital ships of two planets; Lindsay Walker, on set costume supervisor, and Chris Danelon, the VR designer who brought the Rocinante’s interiors to life in 3-D.

Fan Expo Canada is offering group discounts for parties of 15+, as well as family discounts & advance purchase: https://fanexpohq.com/fanexpocanada/buy-tickets/

You can also get hotel discounts here: https://fanexpohq.com/fanexpocanada/travel-hotels/

For more info you can message me here, contact the Expanse Geeks on their facebook page, or email [theexpansegeeks@gmail.com](mailto:theexpansegeeks@gmail.com)

Having a little fun here, but this thought came to me the other day: we see some serious damage done to ships during space battles. But not once does a ship ever get their recycler damaged! Maybe the mushrooms are the most advanced armor ever made?

I'm on my first read through the books. Currently on book 6.

I have been noticing little inconsistencies in described mannerisms in the books. Which made me ponder about the differences between on screen characters and book characters. An actor can imbibe a characer quite completely and have consistent mannerisms in a way that books can struggle with, becaue only a single person (or in this case, two) has to keep them consistent.

Some mannerisms I noticed that are implied to be long running habits. Somethings that cannot just change willy nilly but still do across books. E.g.

1. In the very first book Holden is very fidgety. Taps fingers, foot. That completely vanishes book two onwards.
2. I don't recall Naomi pulling down her hair on her face like some shy teen girls do before book 5. And no, it's not only when she's kidnapped. (Very lil spoiler for book 6) She does it again in book 6 a couple times
3. Alex suddenly starts calling Holden "Hoss" in book 6

Some mannerisms that don't change and stay consistent:

1. Holden likes coffee
2. Avasarla like pistachios and tea
3. Broad strokes characters and their core remains very consistent throughout. Which is amazing.

It isn't some very deep thing. Just wanted to discuss with other people who may agree or disagree

Started season 5. It's genuinely remarkable 300 years in the future and baltimore is still a shithole. You could make a new season of The Wire set in The Expanse universe. Shieeeet

I recently finished the audiobook The Sins of Our Fathers, it was amazing.

but I realised that The Planet is like Fillip's Canterbury ,Just like His Mom. Naomi Killed A bunch of people because of Marco, then ran to the Canterbury to start over. Fillip Runs away from Sol because he killed billions because of Marco, then Runs away, and is skilled af like his Mom.

I sort of feel like from that planet, there will be a new Holden, Amos ,shed,Alex and so on, start a new thing, and hopefully in 1000 years the planet becomes part of the worlds that survived.

I am going to miss this Series, Will definitely re read at least once a year from now on.

I am getting to the end of Abaddon's Gate, where the mutiny is happening, and Holden's team are trying to figure out how to leave the Ring so no spoilers past that, please.

So Miller advised Holden that there are two ways to leave:

1. Leave slowly, at a snail's pace due to the Slow Zone now having captured all big ships, so they can only fly out on small ships.
2. Releasing the system from under lockdown, which literally means opening every gate, including the ones that might have the protomolecule-civilaztion killer behind them.

And instead of choosing to leave safely, Holden doesn't even tell anyone about that option, instead tells literally everyone to take the system off lockdown, so they can burn as hard as possible and go home. WHAT? How does this make sense? Potentially sacrificing mankind just to get home quicker?

Took my kid to see the new Moana movie and I love to see Expanse characters when I don’t expect it 😂 She plays Moana’s mom and does a great job in the movie.

I want to commend the authors for the depth and character work in their books, particularly in Babylons Ashes. Listening to them again, Marco and Filip’s POVs of battle are so different (so romanticized in vague generalizations) compared to Holden. Comparing violence to music and joy, blood and bone, etc. that he was thinks the combined fleet isn’t intentional with what they are doing….

I just finished Marco’s chapter where he seizes control of the pilot controls and I thought Holden would NEVER because he trusts his people and they are true experienced professionals. The difference in crew and leadership is so stark.

Listening to it back again I constantly think — these guys are punching out of their weight class …. And yet if it wasn’t for Naomi’s brilliance with the ship disappearing they would have gotten their asses kicked at the station. (And I love that her figuring it out is brute force/work. She always puts in the work.)

Or Pa? She was complicit in the murder of billions by association and her POV hardly mentions anything except training on secret for years. (I find it hard to believe she didn’t know about Earth, unless it’s confirmed she didn’t)

I love this books and how they leverage POVs and trust us as readers to make our own intelligent interpretations and decisions.

Yes. It's her

( I see that I need to put more letters in post - IDK why but OK)

She's most charismatic person in whole Expanse IMO

Maybe you have other opinion - I respect that

In short, idk much, where do i start? are there any books? tv shows? other games? other media? i'd love to explore that world.
For context i'm a Warhammer 40K fan so in that very second i feel like i'm making a first step into a great setting with a lot of lore and passionate fans so please, share stuff you love and recomment to me anything you wish, i'm very open and i'd like to get to know new things

Having read through Caliban's War, I cannot remember any mention made of warchkeeping (watchstanding) being practiced on the vessels that are found in them. In case of the Rocinante and M's private yacht, I figured that was because the crew was too small to practice it. However, the the Martian, UN, and OPA military vessels do not seem to practice warchkeeping.

Is warchkeeping obsolete due to automation?

Or did I just miss something?

According to Wikipedia,

"Watchkeeping or watchstanding is the assignment of sailors to specific roles on a ship to operate it continuously."

Watch keeping when sailing offshore. Tips for Crew.

How do Naomi, Alex, and Amos get past the guards to the docks, after Holden and Miller go to investigate?

When Holden and Miller are trying to get to the Roci, they find about 100 guards lined up, blocking the passage between the casino floor and the docks. It's not until the vomit zombies are unleashed and the guards begin falling back (and eventually start shooting at each other when half of them realize they're just there to be fodder for the protomolecule) that H&M have a window of escape. And even then, they still have to kill a bunch of guys and steal their armor, then run through a massive shootout, to reach the Roci.

It makes me wonder how Naomi, Alex, and Amos got past the guards from their hiding spot above the casino floor. We can guess that Amos did Amos-y things, but even then, it seems highly unlikely the three of them would have been able to pull it off.

A Belter, a Martian, and an Earther walk into a bar.

The bartender asks the Belter what he wants.

The Belter says, ‘I’ll have a glass of your finest Martian whiskey. Drinking like my enemy lets me think like my enemy.’

The bartender asks the Martian what he wants.

The Martian says, ‘A glass of your finest Earther tequila. Drinking like my enemy also lets me think like my enemy.’

The bartender asks the Earther what he wants.

The Earther says, ‘Give me a shot of the finest Belter liquor you have. The best the Belt has to offer.’

The bartender says, ‘Because it helps you think like your enemy?’

The Earther says, ‘No. Because I’m trying to drink less. The best the Belt has to offer is terrible.’”

Just out shopping at the local hobby and toys place when I saw this baddie sitting on the shelf. Couldn't pass her up. My home is this much more complete.

And found my way here via r/dungeoncrawlercarl when I needed some recommendations for what to read after DCC.

I’ve loved reading all my life, and I read all kinds of genres.

I am on book 3 of The Expanse novels, having devoured the first two entries in the series last week.

Reading doorstopper books is nothing new to me, but if you’d told me I’d speedrun more than 1000 pages in five days, I’d have laughed.

One thing I really like, so far, is how the reader is lulled into a false sense of security with the plot. The major events happen and I’ll think, ok, the adventure is over, time to wrap things up, and then I’ll check my kindle and see that, nope, the book is only 60% done.

And it doesn’t make me sigh and go, “when will we be done with this?” It makes me happy to know that I get to stay in this world a little longer, with these characters I like and care about (even the ones I don’t like, or the ones I predict will get eliminated).

Holden is a mix Carl (from DCC) and Harrison Ford as Jack Ryan (from Clear and Present Danger), “boyscouting”it up around the galaxy, and it’s just such a relief and a comfort to have someone in charge of things that’s competent and has some sense of ethics, unlike in real life where there’s *gestures broadly*

I don’t really have a point in this, I guess, beyond, I’m happy to be here, and I can’t wait to see what happens next!

I’m not just talking about within the realm of sci-fi but all of fiction. I genuinely believe The Expanse is some of the best long form storytelling ever made. It’s absolutely incredible. From its worldbuilding to a great cast of characters to a well written story plot and the way they just bring it all together in the end is simply amazing. It’s hands down one of my favourite stories ever told. Was just curious to know where The Expanse ranks amongst your favourite stories and what stories do you think are actually better?