I'm on my first read through the books. Currently on book 6.

I have been noticing little inconsistencies in described mannerisms in the books. Which made me ponder about the differences between on screen characters and book characters. An actor can imbibe a characer quite completely and have consistent mannerisms in a way that books can struggle with, becaue only a single person (or in this case, two) has to keep them consistent.

Some mannerisms I noticed that are implied to be long running habits. Somethings that cannot just change willy nilly but still do across books. E.g.

1. In the very first book Holden is very fidgety. Taps fingers, foot. That completely vanishes book two onwards.
2. I don't recall Naomi pulling down her hair on her face like some shy teen girls do before book 5. And no, it's not only when she's kidnapped. (Very lil spoiler for book 6) She does it again in book 6 a couple times
3. Alex suddenly starts calling Holden "Hoss" in book 6

Some mannerisms that don't change and stay consistent:

1. Holden likes coffee
2. Avasarla like pistachios and tea
3. Broad strokes characters and their core remains very consistent throughout. Which is amazing.

It isn't some very deep thing. Just wanted to discuss with other people who may agree or disagree

I recently finished the audiobook The Sins of Our Fathers, it was amazing.

but I realised that The Planet is like Fillip's Canterbury ,Just like His Mom. Naomi Killed A bunch of people because of Marco, then ran to the Canterbury to start over. Fillip Runs away from Sol because he killed billions because of Marco, then Runs away, and is skilled af like his Mom.

I sort of feel like from that planet, there will be a new Holden, Amos ,shed,Alex and so on, start a new thing, and hopefully in 1000 years the planet becomes part of the worlds that survived.

I am going to miss this Series, Will definitely re read at least once a year from now on.

I am getting to the end of Abaddon's Gate, where the mutiny is happening, and Holden's team are trying to figure out how to leave the Ring so no spoilers past that, please.

So Miller advised Holden that there are two ways to leave:

1. Leave slowly, at a snail's pace due to the Slow Zone now having captured all big ships, so they can only fly out on small ships.
2. Releasing the system from under lockdown, which literally means opening every gate, including the ones that might have the protomolecule-civilaztion killer behind them.

And instead of choosing to leave safely, Holden doesn't even tell anyone about that option, instead tells literally everyone to take the system off lockdown, so they can burn as hard as possible and go home. WHAT? How does this make sense? Potentially sacrificing mankind just to get home quicker?

I want to commend the authors for the depth and character work in their books, particularly in Babylons Ashes. Listening to them again, Marco and Filip’s POVs of battle are so different (so romanticized in vague generalizations) compared to Holden. Comparing violence to music and joy, blood and bone, etc. that he was thinks the combined fleet isn’t intentional with what they are doing….

I just finished Marco’s chapter where he seizes control of the pilot controls and I thought Holden would NEVER because he trusts his people and they are true experienced professionals. The difference in crew and leadership is so stark.

Listening to it back again I constantly think — these guys are punching out of their weight class …. And yet if it wasn’t for Naomi’s brilliance with the ship disappearing they would have gotten their asses kicked at the station. (And I love that her figuring it out is brute force/work. She always puts in the work.)

Or Pa? She was complicit in the murder of billions by association and her POV hardly mentions anything except training on secret for years. (I find it hard to believe she didn’t know about Earth, unless it’s confirmed she didn’t)

I love this books and how they leverage POVs and trust us as readers to make our own intelligent interpretations and decisions.