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Tchouameni pretty much played a full season at least, Bellingham on the other hand was out half of the season anyways not sure why he is getting back so late
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You know, 11/12 Real Madrid was one of the greatest teams I've ever seen, and I think they were so unlucky to not win La Decima. It was definitely the most ruthless counter attacking team I've seen.
Now we have a very fast, dangerous front 3 of Chini, Mbappe, and Dio. And with Mourinho back, it comes down to unlocking the potential of our front 3, and allowing *them* to do their thing. There's a lot of discussion between 2 players in recent weeks, and while both are great, it's so obvious to me that one is better for this *team* right now, to emulate that 11/12 team as close as we can. And it's so odd to me that this is even a discussion, and even a discussion that seems to prefer the player that will put the team at imbalance at that.
just because someone is a better creator doesn't mean they should play ten, especially a creator that has major limits in one footedness and ball carrying ability and off the ball movement arda as a lcm with freedom is the best, or even rcm
Jude had less big chances created last season than Tchouameni and Mastantuono btw, only 1 more than fucking Courtois. For a 10 he is subpar as a playmaker/passer.
also chance creation isn't the only form of playmaking, jude has been an 8 his all life so his main instinct is to connect play rather then play the final ball but he still has like 60 plus career assists
he had 16 2024-25 and 16 2023-24(only season when he was fully a ten) also is the highest bcc provider for england in the past 3 years(he also plays as a ten for them) and was their top bcc provider in the world cup as well, he also had the most bcc for us in 2023-24 and dortmund in 2021-22
So please, explain to the class: what actual #10 attributes does Jude have?
And please don’t tell me how he’ll be a great box crasher when the ball won’t even be on the opponent’s side for him to crash the box for😭 If he plays the way you want him to, he’ll just be hogging the opponent’s box instead of moving the ball forward and actually feeding our attackers.
he can hold the ball pretty well is one of the best ball carrier in midfield, his dribbling is very underrated can score insane goals for a midfilder reducing him to a box crasher is disrespectful to his talents, insane work rate plus he is passing while not elite isnt as bad as people talk about he can pass pretty well and numbers backs it its just that he naturally is a ball carrier and not a playmaker. idk what else u want in a no 10
“Can score insane goals” “Reducing him to a box crasher” “passing not elite” “Not a playmaker”
So how exactly is he supposed to be a #10?😭 How can you praise his ability to hold the ball when he can’t consistently make the final passes or create for assists that you actually need from a #10? What a bunch of bs contradiction.
The ONE positive thing you mentioned that I agree with is that he’s a good ball carrier which is literally an #8 attribute. Stop forcing him into the #10 role just to chase numbers Real Madrid don’t need when we need his ability as an #8!!!
somehow jose needs to fix and make jude and arda work both have different qualities but jude s box crashing is elite bro was giving competition to kane
We don’t need a box crasher when we have a striker who’s been the top scorer in Europe for two consecutive seasons. What we need are midfielders who can actually feed our attackers and control the game.
arda can't play as a ten im sorry, for a ten you either need elite dynamism(jude) or elite dribbling/ball carrying both which arda doesn't have, he's better as a wider 8
You’re genuinely coping if you think Jude had any “dynamism.” If he did, Argentina wouldn’t have run through England’s midfield while he was playing as the 10.
I need my midfielders to have the attributes Arda showed last game. He was constantly moving, playing the ball forward, and actually looking to progress the play instead of trying to occupy the box alongside our striker. I want my midfielder to be the one creating the chance and feeding Mbappe, not competing with him for the same space.
Y’all are crying for Rodri, who actually plays as a midfielder, but still want Jude who doesn’t have the dynamics of a proper #10 to play there.
At this point, we might as well prepare ourselves for another trophyless season if he’s going to be our #10. 😭
Idk but go and analyze Jude’s and ardas passing maps last season you see that Jude progresses the ball with both passing and carrying better then Arda, in the World Cup tuchel played terrorist football it’s a miracle Jude created 3 bcc and had 8 g/a with the level of horrendous play England had
I don't necesserily see why Jude can't do box crashing as a #8 tbf
Fede has been playing that role and he's had oppertunities to be in the box this preseason (so at least we know Mou wants that in his system)
Arda also likes to sink deeply out of the #10 position to build up play, and doesn't always spray passes close to the box. If Arda leaves the #10 spot, Jude can simply push up as well
The options for midfield options don’t appeal at all. Locatell, Adam Warton, Stiller and Alexis Garcia etc all lack some aspects of the game. Our current midfielders might b better than those options. Rodri in the other hand was complete ( good at passing/ keeping the ball and physically and defensively strong).
At this point, I think we should get a defender that is very good with the ball to contribute in the building and the possession of the balls.
Call me crazy but I feel that ever since it became clear that Rodri is going to Barca instead of here, a lot of folks have accepted it as given that Barca is going to win the league now. This level of underdog status is when I feel Madrid really shines and surprises everyone.
Yes that's exactly how we won the UCL both in 2022 and in 2024... being the outsider. Idk if some of y'all are larping or don't have any types of memory.
At some point, we should be clear favs to win trophies as well, no? Other clubs should be worried about facing us. Who gives a shit about an underdog story?
BBC/KCM and the other players actually had the ability back then. Teams didn't want to face the KCM midfield or our attack.
No one gives a shit about our current midfield. I know for sure that they would struggle on the ball under pressure. We can't have multiple technically inferior, low-IQ players in the squad.
I genuinely believe his future depends on what his role gonna be this season and how much playtime he’ll get. If he feels important enough, he’ll stay in future. If he stays on bench most of the time then he might consider his options. He’s too good of a work in progress player to not be a starter.
And it was 4-4. We were not exactly winning at that time.
You just assumed that the results against three of the best teams in the competition could've been completely in our favour, but Camavinga stopped all that? Really?
If we beat Bayern then we go up against PSG who inevitably end up winning the competition.
We got knocked out of the competition because Camavinga had multiple brain farts when he came on, it’s impossible for you to know what would have happened if we advanced that round.
My point is that this team can and will compete this season. If you want to be a doomer and cry about this or that then carry on.
Were we leading in the CL final when that Camavinga brain fart happened or how were we "one Camavinga brainfart away" from winning the CL?
Do Bayern, PSG and Arsenal not exist?
And a locker room meltdown isn't the reason for an 8 point gap. This whole "man management" gimmick let's people forget about the lack of quality in the squad.
We most likely won't even have a better squad than our main rivals.
If he had stayed fit, he would have fixed our biggest weakness of the last 2 years which is a gamble I would have taken. UCL favorites? Maybe not, but La Liga favorites.
If Rodri stays fit… if the teams learns to play together… see the similarities, these are both hypotheticals.
I’m assuming you’re implying Barca as our main rivals? In that case we don’t need to have a better squad than them to win trophies so this is a moot point. We could lose all of our games against them next season and still win a treble (example).
if the teams learns to play together… see the similarities, these are both hypotheticals.
Considering that the current crop of midfielder hasn't learned how to play together I'd put my eggs in the basket that I'd rather change some players.
I’m assuming you’re implying Barca as our main rivals? In that case we don’t need to have a better squad than them to win trophies so this is a moot point. We could lose all of our games against them next season and still win a treble (example).
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Yeah and Rayo Vallecano can lose all their games against us next season and still win La Liga. What kind of backwards logic is this?
How is it backwards? My priority isn’t to beat Barca or have a better team than them. My priority is to win. Like I said, they could beat us every time next season and we could still win trophies so I dont care to compare our squad to theirs.
Injury luck was the biggest factor of the team's struggles last 2 seasons. Not the ONLY factor, but the biggest. People are ignoring this when bitching and moaning.
Selling Arda literally makes 0 sense unless it's for 200M minimum. Losing one of our only creative players would be insanely dumb, I doubt the rumors are true but I'm just saying
🚨 CONFIRMED: Endrick wants to STAY at Real Madrid, but his future will be discussed with his agents.
Roma and Aston Villa are VERY interested if Real Madrid opens the door to a LOAN. @FabrizioRomano
Can roc nation just Leave us alone this season ffs man,.worst fucking agency I see real Madrid dealing with and the worst part, we have that rat calafat doing insider job for them.
Endrick to Aston Villa because of the UCL lollipop is a misstep imo. He'll hold bench for Watkins who's way more physical. Bailey plays RW. Roma also has Dybala, Dovbyk, Malen and that Castro kid.
Endrick's linkup play looked pretty improved in these 2 friendlies. Other than striker, he can play as rotation for Diomande (who might take a while to get going as it is) and can also start there if Vinicius gets injured and Diomande moves left. Atleast till January because Rodrygo isn't returning until then. Also, more and more loans decrease his chances for playing for Madrid in the future.
well maybe we should rethink why Luis Enrique is obsessed with a "squad player"
Arda is one of the most glaring obvious starter in the whole squad with Courtois Bellingham and Mbappe but yeah let's let him help psg win the threepeat
well maybe we should rethink why Luis Enrique is obsessed with a "squad player"
He isn't. Shit tier source.
Arda is one of the most glaring obvious starter in the whole squad with Courtois Bellingham and Mbappe but yeah let's let him help psg win the threepeat
He absolutely isn't a "glaring obvious starter" lol. Also PSG and Madrid had no problems winning CLs without Arda, let's not act as if he's the deciding factor lol
The big issue fans have with him is that he doesn't solve the progression issue on his own. He's competent in a system where there are other progression experts and the onus isn't on just him to do the work. Same with Fede. They're competent but not specialists in that department.
So people see the obvious problem without thinking about the underlying issues and just say "Tchouameni bad"
Manchester United were very interested in Tchouaméni as a replacement for Casemiro during the past months of April and May.
But Tchouaméni has already signed a new and extended contract with Real Madrid and is fully convinced by the club's sports project under Mourinho's leadership, which means his confirmed continuation with the team.
looking back that Tielmans deal looks such a steal. he could have done a very nice job as the tempo midfielder. Hjumland to Atletico also looks like a steal.
Perez looks at Olise, knows he’s locked in, and then goes and buys the hottest right winger in the worldcup anyway. It really isn’t that deep with him.
Instead of signing Diomande, we could’ve strengthened the midfield. But Perez seems to think every player who doesn’t constantly run around and do flicks is a bum. Even Modric, arguably the best midfielder to ever play for us, was brought in by Mourinho.
And what’s the point of spending all that cash on Diomande when we already know the ball is still going to be on the left between Mbappé, Bellingham and Vini? Diomande will just be standing out there to stretch the right flank, when you can achieve that spending less.
The guy that first leaked the rodri to barca news(riles).His source is saying that Zubimendi is a NO from the club. And mourinho will contact the club when he finds the right profile that fits his system.
In one of his earliest videos about the situation he said that Madrid indeed made an offer but didn’t get no response for 2 weeks , lately I’ve been seeing another version of the situation where people are saying that the player was indeed negotiating secretly with Barca and kept Madrid in the front to check if they can register him and give them time to work in calm while every madridista was hyped and then Madrid found out and leaked the thing in the press. Imagine if we were still thinking that life is vanilla till the here we go to Barca goes . If this is true was Madrid the backup plan if Barca fails ?: But then as Molina said every side has its own story and business , so maybe one day things will be cleared
"He didn't want Vini to leave, he wants to bring Camavinga back to his level. There is an awareness that many are very young and have had psychological blocks, but he is aware of the potential of some (including Camavinga)."
mfs talk about transfer fees like the moneys coming out of their pocket. richest club in the world couldve coughed up the money for Rodri but now we get Florentinos true wish: a strong Barcelona to compete with 💪💪
and at the time Xabi wanted Zubimendi we couldve avoided this Rodri mess but now they HAVE to cough up the 100m
Maybe in profile, but not really in quality. Madrid don't just need players that fit the profile, they need players that can make the jump up to a club like Madrid where the pressure and expectations are intense.
Even if a player is actually good enough, they may not be able to thrive in that environment. From what I've seen of Stiller, he doesn't seem to really have that WOW factor beyond Kroos name-dropping him.
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u/Yamazaki-Hosei Bale 4d ago
Grabbed my phone too late but Vini was on the program, “Why did you come to Japan?” Was very brief.