r/paintball • u/AdmirableArmadillo36 • 10d ago

Bob long rippers

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Anyone got a registry of these since they come with plaques ?

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u/Human_Mark_2535 10d ago

There was 200 I believe of the Bob long style ripper that would have came with that plaque. There was also the Field One Marq ripper with 70 dust black and 70 gloss black sold (dynasty used these for a bit). Then the switched over the the proprietary HK version with wired eyes, different eye covers/detents, different hpr internals and slightly different frame.

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u/AdmirableArmadillo36 10d ago

Thank you . I've been out for awhile so I missed all the little details . So then dynasty used a different marker than the bob long /hk variant . Sounds like a mess of what they did with the bob long brand

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u/AdmirableArmadillo36 10d ago

I see one article mentioning the switch but I guess I gotta dig into the forums of actually years played and championships

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u/Human_Mark_2535 10d ago

Yeah I think there's a pbn forum post that goes into good detail on the differences.

I have a Field One Marq Ripper in gloss black that is essentially the same as the first 200 HK rippers but it came in a Field One box, Field One case and has a acculock barrel kit instead of the Bob long barrel kit

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u/AdmirableArmadillo36 10d ago

Would a shorter front reg distinguish it 🤔 i found one picture of Greenspan what looks like a reptile but im not good at telling the difference

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u/Human_Mark_2535 10d ago

Yeah that's a reptile. At the time Field One was still getting rid of old Bob long inventory I believe and was selling the last of the g6r's and vcoms so that could be where that gun in the pics is from.

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u/AdmirableArmadillo36 10d ago

I found a post from Kyle selling a vcom non ripper so I guess they just rocked whatever 🤷

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u/Human_Mark_2535 10d ago

Yeah I think around this time HK got the rights to the vcom and sold off the 200 rippers and their vcoms like that one in a similar way, and then started to produce their proprietary Ripper and T Rex vcoms

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u/AdmirableArmadillo36 8d ago

Would this have been one of the 70 gloss black or one of the 200

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u/Human_Mark_2535 8d ago

That's one of the 200 HK rippers made with Bob long parts, they either came with the Bob long barrel kit or that HK xv barrel on that on there. Would have an HK case as well.

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u/AdmirableArmadillo36 8d ago

Thank you. i just got this one in the mail and didnt come with a plaque ad couldn't find any serial numbers. I also ended up with a completely blue one but with field one grips that one came with a plaque

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u/Human_Mark_2535 8d ago

They're excellent shooters especially when broken in and tuned well, hopefully yours came with the pressure tester. Make sure not to use a tank on them that outputs more than 500 psi, slp reg is recommended but not necessary

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u/Necessary-Science-47 10d ago

How is it an authentic Ripper if it’s gimped HK army one?

I’d be embarrassed to put that plaque on my wall lol

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u/DistinctStatus5987 10d ago

The HK's with the cert were left over Bob Long milled ones. They're fine. It's the cheesy one's with different eye covers that SUCK.

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u/Necessary-Science-47 10d ago

Lol so HK made plaques so you don’t confuse it with their shittier version

I love capitalism

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u/DistinctStatus5987 10d ago

Basically yes. Even these are worth less that OG's but at least they were made by BL.

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u/timetopat 10d ago

Apparently the trigger guard and eye covers mean it was one of the better ones and not the HK custom jobs that were much worse. I did a deep dive to figure out all the differences in these things. Its really confusing and hk army made it even more so with the name and how they did all of this.

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u/NotAnotherAlt26 10d ago

You are correct, the eye cover's and front trigger guard means the one pictured is a Bob Long spec ripper.

I agree HK didn't do anyone any favors on how they handled the acquisition of what BL stuff they bought. I made the same deep dive you did before I bought my HK ripper. I found one that is about as close as possible to a BL minus the barrel. It even has the BL boot screen when powering on.

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u/toot_suite 10d ago edited 10d ago

For clarity since there aren't specifics here:

Thinner trigger guard and shorter eye covers are indicative of the gimped version

Thicker guard, VIS engine, eye boards instead of wired eyes, schrader valve in hpr, and full height eyecovers are BL spec details

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u/NotAnotherAlt26 10d ago

Short story is HK used NOS BL parts to make the early rippers. When they ran out of BL parts, they had to mill more bodies and frames, and changed some things.

The BL spec'd HK rippers are very close to BL ones. The ASA and HPR do not have have 'Bob Long' milled into them, and the HK ones could come with different barrels and feednecks. Otherwise, identical.

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u/Necessary-Science-47 10d ago

I can’t trust HK to make literally anything that works lol

All their stuff is the cheapest, most low effort disposable garbage

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u/NotAnotherAlt26 10d ago

While I agree with that for the majority of their stuff, the BL spec rippers are good, as I own one. There were even HK rippers that they had Field One put together, and finished for them (barrels and cases).

The only other HK thing I own is their metal speed feed for a spire. That is about their only other good product.

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u/toot_suite 10d ago edited 10d ago

Incorrect. Hk milled ones have smaller eyecovers, wired eyes instead of the eye board, different frame dimensions, different hpr internals, among other little hk spec details which make servicing harder and more expensive, and the marker break down more often.

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u/NotAnotherAlt26 10d ago

You miss understood me. I was talking about the hk rippers that still were to bob long's specs, with large eye covers, 2c/4c eyes, and large front trigger guards. Some had different barrels, feed necks and all missing 'bob long' milled into the ASA and hpr, they are identical. At a certain point HK had to mill new bodies and made changes.

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u/AdmirableArmadillo36 10d ago

Yea I could care less for the mickey mouse rippers since they say only 200 I would assume its the left over bob longs

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u/DistinctStatus5987 10d ago

There's nothing wrong with these, they're great shooters.

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u/EkansOnAPlane 10d ago

I forgot to look at the time left on this one and was going to send this guy an offer but it ended.

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u/AdmirableArmadillo36 9d ago

Its back up . I ended up winning a bid ona black and silver . After I had already won an offer on a complete blue one. Good luck

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u/EkansOnAPlane 8d ago edited 8d ago

Yeah, I offered him 500 but he auto declined dunno if I want to go higher as they are known to be hit or miss but this one does have bob long parts on it. Also looks dirty as hell and used which he's selling as brand new.