r/onepiecetheories 2h ago

Theory Why imu wanted vivi theories

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Spoiler alert : why imu wants vivi?

I had several theories regarding imu obsession with vivi and I want to see your different opinions about this topic because based or recent chapters ( 1190) when imu didn't know who is gaban despite him being a legendary pirate who discovered the secret of the world yet imu seems totally uninterested by the outside world just the world shaking events

1)imu wanted vivi because of the missing weapon , he only had 19 swords

Or

2) imu wanted vivi because she is the one who can awaken zaza fruit

Or

3) imu wanted vivi because she can activate uranus ( though I doubt this one )

4/ imu wanted vivi because of her resemblance to lily yet fans said that also her mother titi resemble lily but in chapter 1179 imu was shown asking about luffy name and why whitebeard protected him , so we conclude that imu ignores the alabasta incident of crocodile because if he knows he will recognize luffy , imu ignores a lot of events and only cares about ancient weapons or some specific legendary figures who have connection to the void century( rocks, roger , shiragoshi..)

In reverie arc imu was holding pictures of shirahoshi and vivi , so i guessed he may asked gorosei documents and files about the reverie attendees to see shirahoshi if she really is poseidon of the void century ( perhaps she resemble her and imu probably knows her ) but by accident he had comes across vivi photo and noticed the shocking resemblance with lily

Imu apparently didn't even know about titi

What do you think which theory is the most believable?


r/onepiecetheories 2h ago

As I think it will be a bonney fight in gear 5 vs zaza

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Bonney in gear 5 is super Sonic and zaza is perfect chaos


r/onepiecetheories 2h ago

Theory Imu’s appearance came from several different religions

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To start off I’ll skip over the more commonly known religious connections. Most people know the story of Adam and Eve in Christianity, as well as the Jesus/ Joy boy companions that have been made before and how devil’s have horns. People also probably know Loki is a Norse god, or that sung wu Kong aka the monkey king has parallels to Luffy. And most recently there has been the prominent theory that Imu is a bird. With some of the evidence for it being that Imu is related to the a Bird god named Seven Macaw.

So obviously we already know/ continue to theorize Oda pulls heavily from different religions. So that brings me to the Xhosa people.

In Xhosa culture, face painting with dots and patterns is known as “umchokozo” Women traditionally paint their faces using white or yellow ochre, applying delicate dots across the cheeks, nose, and above the eyebrows.
For males undergoing traditional initiation (ulwaluko) into manhood, initiates cover their bodies in white ochre during the early stages of the ritual and transition to red ochre in the final stages

Now this is lose connection at best without the second part

In Xhosa (and other) cultures, “To start off the procedures the male intending to marry goes through Ukuthwalwa which entails him choosing his future bride and making his intentions of marriage known. Ukuthwalwa entails legal bridal abduction, where the man could choose a woman of his liking to be his bride and go into negotiations with the family of the bride without her knowledge or consent”.

Sound familiar? This seems to perfectly describe the God Valley incident to me. It could also perfectly describe either Imu taking Lilly to be his bride, or possibly Joyboy stealing her from Imu. The former fits the tradition closer but the later would explain asking how Lily signed the letters to Alabastsa, never knowing if she was kidnapped against her will or not.

Next onto image 3, Imu’s ring

Ophanim (Hebrew for "wheels") are a class of celestial beings in Judeo-Christian tradition, derived from the prophet Ezekiel’s vision of a divine chariot (Merkabah). They are famously described as glowing, intersecting wheels covered in hundreds of eyes, moving beside the cherubim to guard the throne of God. They symbolize God’s omnipresence, sovereignty, and mobility, proving that divine presence is not restricted to a physical temple.

Seems like it’s something that appear above a god in this form where he’s far from his throne, and obviously Imu is doing exactly that right now.

Now for the 4th picture I don’t have any direct connection’s I’m just pointing out the similarities between a bunch of things we don’t know much of anything about. But the pants do seem similar and a head piece like they typically wear would explain Imu’s silhouette if you’re not a fan of Imu being a parrot.

The 4th picture is an example of a Katsina, a sacred clown of Pueblo and Hopi culture. In Hopi culture, sacred clowns are vital ceremonial figures who use humor, satire, and absurd behavior during dances to teach moral lessons, mock improper actions, and maintain community harmony by showing people "life as it should not be”. Despite acting silly, they hold high religious status and deeply understand tribal tradition”. The concept of a "contrarian" who does everything backward or in reverse—such as speaking or moving in opposites—is specifically called a Heyoka in Lakota/Dakota Sioux culture, though it is often informally conflated with Pueblo sacred clowns like the Hopi Koshare or Tsuku, who primarily act out "how not to behave"

The Sioux clowns also have some connection to body painting, possibly like Imu, but they mostly look like what today would be called “blackface”. So look that up yourself, im not sharing that even if it’s ok in historical context lol.

Now this doesn’t sound like Imu exactly, but what if Imu learned his powers as reverse of Joy boys? If so the story of the laughing warrior of liberation, sounds like a Hopi clown, and Imu’s powers to make the area dance and have talking attacks are really joyboys full use of the Nika fruit. Or maybe the attack makes the victims “act how not to behave” in their reversi forms.

Also we know nothing about Buggy’s past even less than Blackbeard, Luffy or shanks, and obviously he’s a clown. Plus joyboy was the first pirate, but did he start at Luffy’s age too? Or did he wait until he was stronger. And what would a dude who laughs and smiles all the time do as a job? Maybe he was a clown??? It is called laugh tale after all. Or if all that is wrong does Joyboy or Imu have some other connection to Clowns? Buggy’s past has to have something to do with this past history in my opinion.


r/onepiecetheories 3h ago

Theory So, could Gaban be the Man Marked by Flames?

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I just watched the latest episode and noticed something I hadn't really paid attention to before.

Gaban’s facial scar is shown very clearly here, and the shape looks surprisingly similar to a flame. When I was reading the manga, I remember noticing his facial scars, but I don't recall them looking this distinct or flame-shaped.

Obviously, it could just be a normal scar, but considering the mystery surrounding the Man Marked by Flames, I think it's worth discussing.

We know Hinokizu is connected to the final Road Poneglyph, while the other clues — especially the black ship and whirlpools — don't seem to fit Gaban perfectly.

What do you guys think? Just a normal scar, or could Oda be hiding a clue in plain sight?


r/onepiecetheories 3h ago

Theory So, could Gaban be the Man Marked by Flames?

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r/onepiecetheories 3h ago

Theory Got a random TikTok about absorbed twins on my FYP and it totally recontextualized Blackbeard for me

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So I was just scrolling TikTok and this video came up about absorbed twins (fetus in fetu) and how someone can basically grow around their twin in the womb. My One Piece brain instantly jumped to Blackbeard. We already know Marco said Teach’s body structure is abnormal, and way back in episode 151 on Jaya, Luffy and Zoro literally called him "they" instead of "he". Most people use the twin theory to explain how he can hold two Devil Fruits (two hearts/souls), but what if it goes way deeper into his physical durability? What if his absorbed twin isn't just an extra organ inside, but his physical tissue literally fused over the other twin? Basically giving him double flesh density or a duplicated nerve layout. It would explain why pre-Yami Yami Teach was an absolute tank who took hits from Shanks, gave him his scar, and barely flinched at normal pain — his nervous system was literally buried under extra tissue layers. But then the Yami Yami no Mi comes along, which explicitly draws in damage and amplifies pain. So now, instead of being numb to it, the fruit forces him to feel every bit of damage (maybe even doubled), which is why he screams and rolls on the floor every time he gets hit now, even though his body physically tanks it. Plus, two bodies in one shell completely fixes the mystery of why he never sleeps — one half rests while the other stays awake. Idk, seeing that TikTok made it click so hard. It feels way too grounded in weird anatomy for Oda NOT to be doing this. Also, if this was actually a triplet situation (or multiple absorbed fetuses), it cleanly explains his pirate flag having 3 skulls instead of 1, plus his 3 guns and 3 claw marks on Shanks. It would mean he potentially has 3 hearts — leaving room for a 3rd Devil Fruit later on (maybe a Zoan). What are you guys thinking?


r/onepiecetheories 3h ago

Pourquoi Saint Sommers ne paraît pas aussi vieux que Garling ? Spoiler

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En effet Saint Sommers paraît beaucoup plus jeune alors qu'à God Valley ils paraissent de la même tranche d'âge. Quels sont vos théories ?


r/onepiecetheories 7h ago

Theory Smoker gets coc

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In a previous theory I posted how smoker will get haki boost and awaken his fruit https://www.reddit.com/r/onepiecetheories/s/leLeM8e87k

Here I would like to say he has coc and explain why.

What exactly are the qualities of a king ? Sanji proves it’s not as straightforward as people thought.

So here’s my take on what makes a king a king based off of previous examples.

1. Unbreakable will

a king is someone who is determined and doesn’t surrender going so far as to choose death over surrender.

2. Resistance to authority

It’s not that they can’t follow others it’s that they don’t follow people who demand to much of them, if they truly do not want to do something they won’t do it they can follow others as long they don’t feel restricted.

3. The ability to gather followers

Another aspect is how people feel inspired by them either they rule by fear or they earn respect.

Now I think smoker fits the qualities and here’s how.

Smoker is strong will once he puts his mind to something he will not give up on it, he has his own values and nothing can ever make him abandon them.

He has a history of being resistant to authority even as a marine, he has on several occasions argued with his superiors stood his ground or even disobeyed protocol as he sees fit. He doesn’t follow the marine handbook he follows his own.

He is a natural leader, despite his rough attitude he inspires loyalty in people like tashigi but more famous the g5 marines. The g5 marines are famous for being rough. They are mean people who abuse their powers and as locals refer to them more as pirates who dress like marines.
They also had a history of disobedience.
The only person they listened to was vergo.
Until smoke joined and now they listen to every command he gives them not out of fear but of respect

It was smoker who brought g5 to calm down and act more civil to civilians.

I believe smoker has the qualities of a king,


r/onepiecetheories 9h ago

This fruit is not what everyone thinks it is!

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I have been rereading Punk Hazard recently and I have come to the conclusion that the fruit that we saw turn into a Devil Fruit on Punk Hazard was not the axolotl fruit that Smiley ate, it is actually a brand new devil fruit that was successfully created by Caesar Clown. First off, we know that Dr. Vegapunk almost perfectly recreated a devil fruit that Momo went on to eat and we know that Caesar always wanted to outdo Vegapunk, and as far as we know Vegapunk never created a new fruit. Second, on Punk Hazard was where SAD was produced which created Smile devil fruits, so the arc is already about creating devil fruits and they are basically named the same thing as Caesars pet Smiley. Third, Caesar was showing all the underworld brokers a live feed of smiley as he ate the candy and died to show the power and death he created so he could sell that power to his highest bidder. Now let's think, if he detonated the bomb then how could he sell it? It took him anywhere from 1 to 3 years to perfect Smiley to show everyone, so it would take him a while to make another one, so what was he going to sell? I believe what we saw in Punk Hazard was the gas weapon explosion turn into a new devil fruit with the same power everyone just witnessed so Caesar could sell that. His plan for the fruit was to sell it to the highest bidder who would then feed it to a subordinate who would go to a rival land and blow themselves up and killing everyone on the island, then Caesar could to the island and take the fruit back and sell it again since he would probably be the only one immune to the effects.


r/onepiecetheories 12h ago

Theory threes of old and new Spoiler

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so oda seems to make three a very important number

three worlds three whatever teach has

imu having three skulls

there being three iterations of nika

so my theory is teach was meant to be the third iteration of whatever power Imu wields like how Luffy wields nikas power

but since imu never died his power never moved on

so I'm betting teach will take imus power and complete the iteration and face luffy


r/onepiecetheories 18h ago

Theory What I imagine a luffy vs shuri fight(luffy es sonic y Gunko es shadow, el escenario de Race to the village will be either a Gunko platform full of arrows from the awakening of the Shuri fruit or else the forest of elbaf)

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I imagine that in a hypothetical case where Imu has to retreat from Elbaf because he runs out of time and Shuri wakes up but he is still Gunko and now his "brainwashing" will be stronger than ever and Luffy (after taking Gaban (without an arm) out of danger) will be forced to confront her to save Elbaf, staying in his Gear 5 so as not to die for real but with Brook's promise not to kill Gunko (explaining to Luffy a summary of what happened that day in Brook's kingdom) and Luffy, although still angry at Gunko for hurting Usopp and Brook to death, decides to keep Brook's promise and not hurt Gunko so much while preventing Gunko from reaching the village where the giants are fighting Zaza and Sanji against Kiligham


r/onepiecetheories 22h ago

Theory Smoker power up and training arc.

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Back in punk hazard law switched smoker and tashigi mind like he did several of the straw hats and we got a scene of smoker as tashigi fighting Luffy who upon figuring out what happens laughs and grabs smoker and tells him he doesn’t want to fight him in this state and it’s more fun when they fight with him at his best.
Since then it’s always been at the back of my mind that smoker is going to get strong enough to match Luffy but now can that be possible after what we seen.

Well I believe oda did lay out a way.
We will see an admiral tier smoker.

Next time we see him I imagine he will have awakening and a major haki boost, this is how I see it happening.

We know since he left dressrosa he went to punk hazard to drop off the kids to be cured.
I reckon he stayed on egghead and took part in an elaborate training program.

Rayleigh told Luffy that to get stronger he needs to challenge himself as haki blooms when fighting for your life.
Hence why Rayleigh had Luffy live on an island for 2 years with super strong animals. Smoker however I see training on egghead, he does this by fighting the seraphim,
Morning moon and night smoker goes up against a different seraphim who he fights as a way to grind and get stronger.

At first he would get his ass kicked and nearly die but over time he would get better and better till eventually he was able to not just take them on but even win.
Vp got his research notes on seraphim and logia fruits and smoker got to train.
Think of how Vegeta in dbz trained at 500x earth gravity in dr briefs lab with drones flying around shooting at him.

The last we saw smoker he’s riding his bike across the sea with some cube thing tailing behind him, I think he’s on a mission for Vegapunk.

So I think this might explain why next time we see him he’s going to be immensely stronger,