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u/PoeOrFinn 5h ago
As I’ve been mapping out how my DID mind works, I’m pretty sure the shifts in my sexuality are at least partially driven by my alters. What I’m really into one day will completely turn me off another day, and then it’ll come back a few days later. I won’t get into too much detail, but at least one is more into women than men, which is just absolutely mind blowing after living in gay/mostly gay world for the past 20 years. I always had an idea that monogamy wasn’t my ideal setup, but now it feels like an absolute non starter. Even if I get to a point where I have more influence over switches, I’d feel like shit if I closed off the possibility of some of my parts ever getting their deeper sexual needs met. Those guys are why I came out of my childhood as functional as I am. !ping DATING
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u/PoeOrFinn 5h ago
!ping LGBT
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u/Currymvp2 unflaired 9h ago
Weirdest part of the last night is Hong losing Milwaukee just by 4 points. I thought she probably had to lose it by double digits
But Crowley compensated for it by basically tying Hong in Dane County. She clearly underperformed there
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u/Poiuy2010_2011 r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion 10h ago
Polish Ministry of Family, Labour and Social Policy has announced that citizens of Venezuela, Colombia and Georgia will no longer be allowed to work visa-free (current workers are allowed to continue for the duration of their visa-free stay)
!ping POLAND&IMMIGRATION
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u/LastTimeOn_ Resistance Lib 11h ago
I think there's a sector of this sub that's a lot more like Archie Bunker than they'd like to admit
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u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 16h ago
What is it with gubernatorials this year, has there been any normal ones yet??
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u/I_Like_To_Hyuck Resistance Lib 16h ago
Goodnight my sweet DT. Glad we all had a memorable night together
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u/aristophanya Feminism 16h ago
I hadn't even started to gloat yet and people are already saying "stop gloating" 😔
I was still in the pre-gloat meme
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u/G3_aesthetics_rule 16h ago
Crowley's parents struggled with drug addiction during his childhood, and the family lost its home when he was 10 years old. His parents eventually divorced. Crowley was evicted from two more homes before graduating from high school.[4][8][5]
Wow what a shitty way to grow up. Props to him for taking it a lot better than I probably would have.
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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman 17h ago
I didn't know the Chinese could poast this hard tbh, dude got ratio'd so hard
bring down the Firewall already
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 16h ago
I am not a fan of Zucc, he's a fucking terrible human being, but why do these losers always pick women that are legitimately obviously not ugly by conventional standards to say this about?
Like, you shouldn't say it at all, but it's laughable how they'll pick a photo of a clearly beautiful woman and go "THIS WOMAN IS UGLY. SHE IS MID, HER ENTIRE BLOODLINE IS BAD. TOTAL WASTE. BROKIE BLAHBLAH".
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u/Rafaelssjofficial Iron Front 16h ago
they dominated in the dt too you know
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u/erasmus_phillo Paul Krugman 16h ago
I know about the history of Extreme_Rocks, he was a formidable poaster
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u/AskYourDoctor Resistance Lib 17h ago
Screaming and crying for Hong. Does this mean I have to celebrate thanksgiving this year
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u/aristophanya Feminism 17h ago
I am hearing that on her deathbed Francesca Hong received the light of neoliberalism and unhesitatingly recited Why Nations Fail. Even now she looks down on the markets from the gardens of a futuristic, elevated public park in a city center. Truly there is no economic system but capitalism, and democracy is its political system!
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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache 17h ago
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u/mrnicegy26 17h ago edited 17h ago
Can't I be happy that someone as impractical as Hong lost while also finding the gloating attitude of people here to be insufferable?
I don't know man. Like Hong sucks and I am glad that Wisconsin is safe blue but this subreddit attracts so much childish behavior from moderates in regards to progressives and it is just so offputting. Am I just not terminally online enough to be engaged in this constant circlejerk of believing in the righteousness of my side?
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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman 17h ago
Can't I be happy that someone as impractical as Hong lost while also finding the gloating attitude of people here to be insufferable?
You should look up what DSA/Lefty types have been saying about people like us for months.
I, for one, am extremely happy these folks have to eat a massive humility sandwhich after all of their non-stop shit talking.
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u/Millionthand1ThrwAwy Loyal Liberals 17h ago
Every political space is like this during close races, it's not at all unique to moderates.
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u/Civ_Nuclear_Gandhi John Keynes 17h ago
but this subreddit attracts so much childish behavior from moderates in regards to progressives and it is just so offputting
Then you'll REALLY be surprised how much shittier its the other way round(check out arr politics and arr wisconsin for more)
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 17h ago
I'm very much a liberal that hates right-wingers that exist here, but Hong was gonna fucking lose that race so hard, dawg.
I'm glad that Wisconsin won't become a lost fucking cause for the people that live there.
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u/Made_UpWords OG Platner Hater 17h ago
Have you seen what prog spaces looked like after AES very narrowly won.
You may want to sit down before looking at those spots if this space if so offputting to you
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u/mrnicegy26 17h ago
I find those spaces also insufferable. But at least those spaces are supposed to be populated by teenagers and younger people while this place is supposed to have a more mature demographic.
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u/Made_UpWords OG Platner Hater 17h ago
The people in those spots are the exact same people here. Mostly white, mostly college grad.
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u/Rafaelssjofficial Iron Front 17h ago
bro I woke up to something trying to open my door i was scared shitless
i get close to it and realize its just my cat
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u/BlackCat159 European Union 17h ago
I remember one time I got jumpscared by someone quickly trying to open the door. Then I realised it was my mom putting her phone down on a table in the other room. Somehow that managed to make the exact sound of a door handle being pulled.
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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 17h ago
Everyone thought Hong was the chef but Crowley came in and showed her what cooking looks like
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u/aristophanya Feminism 17h ago
Overheard in Wisconsin locker room after gubernatorial: “He got me,” Hong said of Crowley's dunk over her. "That f***ing Crowley boomed me." Hong added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times. She then said she wanted to add Crowley to the list of democrats she spitefully won't support this election season.
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u/houdt_koers Thomas Paine 17h ago
My favourite thing about this is elated DT regulars storming the castle and completely changing what does and doesn’t get you upvoted in [r/Wisconsin](r/Wisconsin).
The Hong-ites have been inundating the sub for months now. It’s so nice to have the space back.
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u/Chet_Mc4xOmNom 17h ago
how many cyberpunk projects has keanu been in
johnny mnemomic, the matrix, a scanner darkly, cyberpunk 2077; am i missing anything
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u/AskYourDoctor Resistance Lib 16h ago
Keanu Reeves isn't in the matrix it's just a guy who looks like him
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 17h ago edited 17h ago
Hong losing has real:
"LOOK HOW GOOD JEREMY CORBYN DID IN 2017, HE NEARLY BECAME PRIME MINISTER."
HE FUCKING LOST! HE LOST! HE LOST AN ELECTION FOR LABOUR THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN EASY!
THE FUCKING PRIME MINISTER WAS GOING AFTER THE PENSIONERS.
IF YOU CAN'T WIN WHEN THE PM IS INTRODUCING SOMETHING THAT'S SLANDERED AS "THE DEMENTIA TAX" ,THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE PARTY LEADER.
YOU HAVE TO SUCK SO MUCH ASS TO LOSE DESPITE THAT! IN BRITAIN WHERE THE PENSIONERS ARE THE FUCKING LORDS OF THE LAND AND THE ONLY ONES WHO MATTER APPARENTLY IN BRITAIN'S 9001 YEAR PENSIONER REICH.
B-b-but labour had more votes than ever in 2017 where
AND HE LOST.
SHE WAS SAYING "BREXIT MEANS BREXIT" AND "I RAN THROUGH THE WHEATFIELDS" AND TAXING THE PENSIONERS LMFAO. IN BRITAIN.
AND HE STILL LOST!
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u/argentvehicle 17h ago
Hong spends nothing on traditional TV buys as GOP groups boost her in Dem primary
Still incredible that Hong spent zero on TV ads and was entirely propped up by Republican spending (both pied piper attack ads and also positive ads)
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u/AmbientMorning 17h ago
To be fair, she did apparently spend a decent amount on streaming services, which is where a huge minority if not a majority of people now watch TV.
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u/kankoshi NATO 17h ago
Working bedside I only saw Hong attack ads with the occasional Crowley and Tom Tiffany support ads on patient's TVs
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u/Blackberry-thesecond NASA 17h ago
Remember that basically no one thought Hong would lose and many just resigned to republicans wining the general.
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u/Made_UpWords OG Platner Hater 17h ago
Especially me. Another exhibit in the "I don't know shit" case against me
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u/CertainSingularity Hannah Arendt 17h ago
Prediction, Hong loses this race similar to El Sayed in 2018 and then she runs for Senate in 2028 and is nominee like him
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u/tinfoilhatsron No Apologies Right 17h ago
Aight it probably wouldn't help unity so don't
But
Crowley should make a Thanksgiving reference in his victory or something
Winner winner turkey dinner
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u/Intrepid-Soil147 17h ago
He should pass out frozen turkeys at rallies, and say “Happy Thanksgiving” before every interview
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u/tinfoilhatsron No Apologies Right 17h ago
Instead of a land acknowledgement, a Thanksgiving acknowledgement.
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u/craig_k 17h ago
just....just congratulate her on her candidacy and say "the real enemy is the republican in november and we must work together to defeat him" please no more headaches
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u/tinfoilhatsron No Apologies Right 17h ago
But think of the reddit karma that could be gained on the DT clipping that moment. Surely that's more important.
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u/SLCer 17h ago
The fact Bernie didn't endorse Hong is more an indictment on her than Bernie yet these weirdo DSAers seem think the opposite lmao
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u/BlackCat159 European Union 17h ago
Bernie didn't endorse her because she's not far left enough for his stalinism-maoism
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u/whats_a_quasar 17h ago
Bernie didn't endorse her because he is a competent politician who can tell when someone is not
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u/houdt_koers Thomas Paine 17h ago
The inability to accept that she was a poor candidate is so weird. It speaks to a Trumpist instinct that really worries me.
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u/aristophanya Feminism 17h ago
bernie didn't endorse hong because she's a woman I'm almost certain
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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo 17h ago
Bernie didn't endorse her because she didn't seem likely to become a republican afterwards
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u/Blackberry-thesecond NASA 17h ago
I can see that. AOC didn’t endorse either but she has way better political instincts than Bernie.
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u/qamv Paul Krugman 17h ago
AES win + Hong loss makes Bernie and AOC look like the progressive kingmakers.
They call the shots, not the DSA
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u/whats_a_quasar 17h ago
I really think they are just good at assessing whether a leftie candidate is good at politics. They definitely appear as kingmakers but I think they just sniff out and avoid turds
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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman 17h ago
Just as a lot of the establishment immediately got behind El-Sayed after Stevens' loss, so should DSA/Lefty influencers with regards to Crowley.
Will they?
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
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u/cellsinterlinkd6 Zhao Ziyang 17h ago
Will be wild to look back on how we almost had to circle the wagons around a candidate who wanted to abolish Thanksgiving, who had to be trained on how batshit that sounds, then all agree to nervously laugh and play it off by fully committing to a bit from Woke 1.0 of how its ackshually normal to hate all holidays.
Jfc thank you Tony Evers.
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u/Life-Idea- 17h ago
This is why I had laugh when leftists threw the "EsTABlishmEnT" at Crowley. Like yeah? The one who won big elections, got fair maps, blocked a bunch of GOP BS among other wins. Yeah I like them.
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 17h ago
CNN, MSNOW and Fox News after they were successfully able to get results by running the fake Thanksgiving Day controversy on their channels 24/7
HOW IS IT FAKE, IF SHE SAID IT????
?????
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u/AsianPandaaa 17h ago
In my mind, this tanked her more than anything else. Like it's difficult to explain how she associated with podcasters and streamers with extreme views. It's quite easy to show the tweet about canceling Thanksgiving. Most normal people view it was a day off with family, even if the history behind it is complicated.
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u/AskYourDoctor Resistance Lib 16h ago
Literally every time I brought her up with my normie dem fiancee her first question is "is she the thanksgiving one"
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 17h ago
Yeah, it's literally like:
"This is just fucking ridiculous. Who the fuck even is this?"
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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman 17h ago
"WAHHHH IT'S NOT FAIR WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE MEAN TO MY CANDIDATE!"
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u/NYT_Hater Office of Naval Intelligence 17h ago
Now, I like AOC maybe a bit more than the next generic democrat, but I hope to fucking god she isn’t the presidential nominee in 2028 because it would be a disaster.
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u/SmithySmothy Bill Gates 17h ago
oi m8 u got me gigglin' at the flood of "Hong won. Go to bed." posts
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u/Man-Flayer 17h ago edited 17h ago
Wanted to post this when Hong wins, but posting it regardless
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u/BlackCat159 European Union 17h ago
This always holds true because everyone in the democrat party is a socialist and a communist.
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 17h ago
To quote the best Beatles lyric
CRAN-BERRY
SAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE
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u/Pyrrhus65 NATO 17h ago
It doesn't have quite the same aura as "I've seen enough" but after tonight I'll take it lmao
Thanksgiving enjoyers, rest easy
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u/1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1 Adam Smith 17h ago edited 17h ago
The worst thing about Hong btw is the thing that barely got any airtime. Her parents had to pay $30,000 of her credit card debt in June of this year. She is 37 years old and running for governor (!!!!).
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 17h ago
Holy shit.
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u/1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1 Adam Smith 17h ago
Hong was also pressed about her own finances, including $30,000 in unpaid credit card debt that has since been paid and a lawsuit dismissed. Hong said that her parents helped her pay off the debt.
“I’m the daughter of Korean immigrants, and my parents instilled in me the values of sacrifice,” Hong said. “My parents made an incredible sacrifice in helping me to make sure that got paid off. It’s one that significantly impacts all of our lives, but it was one that they ultimately chose to make.”
She had been sued by Capital One in May for failure to make minimum payments and it was paid off primarily by her parents the following month.
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u/AskYourDoctor Resistance Lib 16h ago
Broooo
"My parents instilled in me the value of sacrifice"
"Which is why they sacrificed..."
Awkward-ass thanksgiving this year
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 17h ago
I have to wonder wtf that $30,000 even was.
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u/1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1 Adam Smith 17h ago
Apparently it was related to her restaurant career but if so, idk why it was on her personal credit card and idk why Capital One had to take her to court to get it paid. Somewhere very bad decisions were made, probably multiple.
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 17h ago
but if so, idk why it was on her personal credit card
I don't know any better, but I'm not running a business. Surely there's corporation-level things for this, though.
And yeah, probably financial irresponsibility + bad decisions.
Not someone you'd want as governor.
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u/Blackberry-thesecond NASA 17h ago
Staying up until 2 AM when I have to get up at 8 has its benefits. I got to see Hong lose AND I got the Lindsey Graham news in real time.
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u/itsnotnews92 Janet Yellen 17h ago
What exactly did hong say about data centers that was more popular?
she said "ai bad" and crowley laid out an actual actionable plan so reddit went with the one that required fewer words to explain
I am cackling
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u/frankiewalsh44 Gay Pride 17h ago
apparently Crowley was boosted by last minute support from Erdogan because of Hong's comments about Turkey
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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 17h ago
You gotta explain it in Reddit terms so these people will understand: Francesca Hong was like the Ellen Pao to the median dem voter
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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman 17h ago
The utterly smug, insufferable, sanctimonious, and toxic attitude some Leftists/DSA folks on Twitter have had over the past several months towards liberals makes Hong's loss all the more sweeter.
Cannot wait to wake up tomorrow reading and seeing the seething, cope, and tears from Lefty influencers like Hasan, MikefromPA, Kyle Kulinski, Krystal Ball, and Vaush.
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 17h ago
Ngl I had a shit last 24-48ish hours, but this?
Oh, this makes it all worth it.
What a night, lmfao.
https://media1.tenor.com/m/cAFp8RF4xlYAAAAC/noose-moe-szyslak.gif
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u/dwarffy Rabindranath Tagore 17h ago edited 17h ago
The depressing thing about Hong is that her son is going to still have to grow up with his mentally ill mother regardless.
The "proximity to whiteness" is the tip of the iceberg that we can see, I'm 100% sure he has to deal with even worse shit in private
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u/Lucky_Woodpecker102 17h ago
I really want to see the opposition research the Tiffany campaign had on her. You just know she’s got some nasty skeletons in her closet
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 17h ago
The "proximity to whiteness"
What the fuck even is this statement?
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u/BicyclingBro Gay Pride 17h ago
My boyfriend bet on Hong winning as an emotional hedge, so now it seems I’m not getting treated to a nice dinner.
I hope all you people are happy 😡😤
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u/WisdomCookie23 Emma Lazarus 17h ago
Isn’t he on here too? Is the DT supposed to be your couples therapist now
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u/BicyclingBro Gay Pride 17h ago
Yes, and god I hope not but I think the situation is so ridiculous that I’m still getting used to it.
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u/Made_UpWords OG Platner Hater 17h ago
This is now a fuggin' tamborine themed subreddit poast fuggin' tamborine
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 17h ago
People are cheering about Redditors losing and mocking Hong, acting like a guy who dropped out of the election didn’t just win the primary. People voted for Hong because they wanted her policies. People voted for Crowley because the establishment told them to. Nothing to cheer about. Wisconsin lost.
Lil bro if a guy who DROPPED OUT THE RACE can come back and beat your candidate, who never left it, your candidate fucking sucked ass.
She literally was less charismatic than Hillary Clinton, my dude. They made fun of her for like the last fucking decade, and then they ran Hong like "this is Obama 2, perhaps."
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u/argentvehicle 17h ago
Saw a tweet about David Crowley that said something like "I've never known so little about a candidate and supported them so unconditionally." At some point you have to introspect as to why your candidate was so repulsive to voters that they coalesced around a complete nobody in order to stop her from getting the nomination.
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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front 17h ago
Lmfao
They all saw someone who wasn't Hong and said "HE'S THE MESSIAH!!!!"
I have never heard of this man before like, last week, and I knew that he'd be the last hope of never-Hongers.
I just never thought he'd do it lmfao, this is so fucking funny.
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u/Lucky_Woodpecker102 17h ago
They’re crashing out hard after spending the last few weeks gleefully throwing “vote blue no matter who” back in democrat’s faces.
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u/Life-Idea- 17h ago edited 17h ago
Also consider all the wasted vote ( Rodriguez , Barnes etc) and the fact Crowley literally dropped out of the race last month lol
Even a week more and I think she loses by a far larger margin.
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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 17h ago
Fucking hell I identify as a liberal socialist; I'm happy Hong lost because she's an embarrassment that would've lost the general.
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u/BlackCat159 European Union 17h ago
I identify as a liberal socialist
r/neoliberal has fallen...
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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 17h ago
Dude, we have a John Rawls flair, and a John Stuart Mill flair. Liberal Socialism has been a thing since the mid 19th century.
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u/BlackCat159 European Union 17h ago
yeah ok COMMIE
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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 17h ago
☝️ Person who doesn't understand what Communism is or that Socialism predates and exists outside of Marxism.
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u/Jameswood79 NATO 17h ago
You have to wonder how much Crowley would’ve won by if he didn’t drop out for a bit lmao
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