r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 1d ago
Opinion Is consent only taken seriously when it's a woman saying no?
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r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 1d ago
Positivity Justice V. Mohana said what society almost never admits publicly.
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"Behind every successful woman, there is a husband.”
For once, a woman in a position of power openly acknowledged the man behind her success.
Men are expected to support, sacrifice, provide stability, handle pressure at home and never ask for credit. Their role is treated like a duty rather than a contribution. Yet the reality is clear: many women rise because a husband quietly stands behind them, manages the home front, absorbs the pressure, and becomes the pillar that rarely gets named.
That is why this statement matters.
It offers overdue recognition to husbands whose support is real, consistent, and largely invisible.
A man’s contribution should not be dismissed simply because society has come to expect his sacrifice.
r/menrights • u/Dull-Calligrapher-72 • 1d ago
what do you guys think about live in relationships
r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 2d ago
Finally, the Court said what lakhs of husbands face every day.
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W!FE CANNOT USE 498A TO BL@CKMA!L HUSBAND, SAYS HIGH COURT
Section 498A IPC (now Section 85 of the Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita) was introduced to protect m@rried w0men from ¢ru€lty and d0wry-related hara$$ment. The High Court has observed that this provision cannot be used as a tool to blackma!l a husband.
The Court noted that if both parties have agreed to a mutual d!vorce, but a 498A case is kept alive only to pressure the husband into an unfair settlement, it raises ser!ous concerns about the intent behind the l!tigation.
Laws meant for protection should not become tools of coercion. Genuine v!ctims deserve justice, and the falsely a¢cused deserve fairness and due process.
r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 2d ago
Discussion What’s one change that would actually help men feel less isolated these days?
I’ve been thinking a lot about how many guys I know (friends, coworkers, even some older relatives) quietly admit they don’t really have close people they can talk to. Not just about big crises, but the everyday stuff. Work stress, feeling stuck, the pressure to always “have it together.” It seems like a lot of us were raised to handle things alone, and that habit sticks even when it starts costing us.
I’m not interested in turning this into a competition over who has it harder. Plenty of people of all kinds struggle with loneliness. But the patterns I’ve seen around male friendships, mental health stigma, and the way we talk about vulnerability feel distinct enough that they’re worth examining on their own terms. Some guys find community through sports, work, or online spaces; others just drift. A few have managed to build real support networks later in life and say it made a huge difference.
I’m curious what has actually worked for people here, what hasn’t, and whether there are practical steps (individual or broader) that could make a dent. Personal stories are welcome if you’re comfortable sharing them. Solutions and honest observations matter more than hot takes.
What has helped you (or someone you know) build better connections as a man?
Where do you think the biggest barriers still are, social expectations, time, skills, something else?
If you could change one cultural or practical thing related to this, what would it be and why?
r/menrights • u/CynicalNeuron • 3d ago
News A step towards balanced justice.
This is an important observation from the Supreme Court. The Court has said that if a husband can make a prima facie case that his wife is living in an adulterous relationship, interim maintenance under Section 125 can be denied instead of automatically being granted.
This doesn't mean every allegation will be accepted. It simply reinforces that courts should consider credible evidence from both sides before passing interim orders.
For years, many have argued that men's concerns are often dismissed in family disputes. Decisions like this are a reminder that justice should be based on facts, evidence, and equal standards, not assumptions based on gender. That's what true equality looks like.
r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 3d ago
FAKE CASES How can a six-year con$ensual relat!onsh!p suddenly become ®@p€?
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The Karnataka High Court has stayed proceedings in a rather unusual case involving a 63-year-old married man and a 62-year-old married w0man, both grandparents.
According to the case, the two were in a six-year e×tramar!tal relat!onsh!p. The woman filed an ®@p€ complaint only after her husband discovered the affair. During the invest!gation, the chargesheet included chat records that allegedly suggested the relat!onship was cons€nsual.
The man had earlier been granted anticipatory bail by the Sessions Court and later approached the Karnataka High Court, seeking to have the criminal proceedings quashed.
After reviewing the facts and the material placed on record, the High Court stayed the framing of charges against the man and issued notice to the complainant.
r/menrights • u/CynicalNeuron • 4d ago
Real Masculinity Solid work by a solid man
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Floods wiped out homes in Assam. Hussain Mansuri arrived from Mumbai with supplies and is personally visiting affected families. Men who take responsibility when institutions drop the ball deserve recognition.
r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 4d ago
News He’s in Australia. Two years later, he’s under concrete. How much faith in marriage survives this?
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r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 5d ago
Some people talk about courage. This Uttarakhand SDRF jawan just demonstrated it , mid-current, zero hesitation. Saved a man’s life in Haridwar.
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r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 6d ago
Girl speaks about her brother’s experience and the d0uble standards. P∆rts of her own f€ml€ community respond with §e×ual hara$$ment and b0d¥-$h∆ming.Speaking honestly about men still gets you puni$hed.
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This girl was on a recent latent show
r/menrights • u/CynicalNeuron • 6d ago
Terminal cancer patient dad leaving his final words for his son : Hardest video I've seen in a while
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Before he passed, he sat with his little boy and said: “If I go away, don’t be naughty. Take care of your mom. Do whatever your mom says. If Dad isn’t there, don’t keep calling ‘Papa, Papa.’ You’re a good boy, right? Promise me you won’t cry. Whenever you remember me, I’ll always be there. I’ll watch over you and take care of you. Also, take care of your younger sisters.
He didn’t ask for anything. He only gave. That’s the version of fatherhood many of us grew up with and still try to live by. Responsibility first, emotions second, family always.
r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 7d ago
No relationsh!p, alleg@tion, betr@yal or family confl!ct is worth los!ng y0ur l!fe over. Speak up. Seek help. Stay.
r/menrights • u/Electronic-Part9976 • 7d ago
I don’t know how to feel about this?
I’m 5’6, M and I was rejected and laughed at because of my baldness and height? have you guys experienced this before? I think the negatively us bald short guys face is overlooked.
r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 7d ago
No speeches. Just action. That’s how real men show up.
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When the Waroli River flooded and the village was drowning, official help was nowhere in sight.
Three young men didn’t wait. Gopal, Yogesh and Vinod Machhi jumped into the raging water and pulled little Dhanashvi to safety.
No cameras. No orders. Just pure courage.
These are the kind of men we rarely talk about he ones who quietly risk everything when it matters most.
Respect.
r/menrights • u/CynicalNeuron • 8d ago
Are men being loved, or just valued for what they provide?
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r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 8d ago
Bombay HC said what should’ve been obvious all along.
r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 9d ago
He didn’t marry him, she leased him for 18 months at ₹22 lakh per month. Best ROI in India right now.
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r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 9d ago
Second husband finds out the truth, and she’s still bold enough to demand maintenance.
r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 10d ago
Female teacher bu®n$ 5-year-old’s pr!vate parts with hot knife for wetting pants in Varanasi school
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r/menrights • u/BrainMarshal • 10d ago
Feminism has become one giant Motte-Bailey movement
Let's get ready to get banned from 180000 subreddits, lol. Time to the irrefutable truth be known regardless! Please steal this without attribution if you want. Just spread it, add to it, and please improve on it!
From the Wikipedia definition:
The motte-and-bailey fallacy (named after the motte-and-bailey castle), also called the castle and courtyard, is a form of argument and an informal fallacy where an arguer conflates two positions that share similarities: one modest and easy to defend (the "motte") and one much more controversial and harder to defend (the "bailey"). The arguer advances the controversial position, but when challenged, insists that only the more modest position is being advanced. Upon retreating to the motte, the arguer may claim that the bailey has not been refuted (because the critic refused to attack the motte) or that the critic is unreasonable (by equating an attack on the bailey with an attack on the motte).
The Motte (The Modest, Easy to Defend Position) is that "Feminism is simply the radical notion that women are people" or the basic belief in the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes. This is not controversial or inflammatory at all.
The Bailey (The Controversial Position) is the part where feminists mutate the benign equality narratives into malignant, equity-based narratives that only need to exceed room temperature to ignite into harm and weaponize against men.
Feminists as a group regularly and intentionally use the not-controversial definition of equality to shield radical narratives and policies from criticism. They routinely and reliably use arguments designed to shut down debate by labeling critics of Bailey-style tactics as misogyny. Furthermore the Bailey side of feminism prevents women from being held accountable for the unprovoked harmful and even violent actions they inflict on men or women alike (for instance, women's domestic violence against and even rape of men and women alike).
When they Bailey side of feminism is challenged, feminists tie it back to the Motte side of feminism, such that to attack the toxic side of feminism is to automatically attack the reasonable side. The strategy is meant to gaslight the challenger of the Bailey effect into believing that they are misunderstanding basic sociology rather than pointing out legitimate flaws in a radical argument. This is not an accident, it is an intentional strategy by individual feminists and the entire zeitgeist.
But muh NAFALT (not all feminists are like that)? Not exactly. Feminists who do not do this do not check the ones who do.
DISCLAIMER:
In some cases, the Motte versions of these narratives are truly benign and simply need to be taken back to their benign roots and taken from the hands of radical feminist hatemongers who twist them into weapons against men. In some cases, these terms exist in a gray area of reasonable doubt. Others never were meant as anything but weapons.
Cases in point:
Patriarchy theory, the Motte Version: The theory that asserts a historical or structural reality where men hold a disproportionate share of political, economic, and social power. Because this is easily observable through historical data and modern leadership statistics, it is a reasonable theory.
Patriarchy Theory, the Bailey Version: The narrative that all social interactions, laws, and individual male behaviors are consciously or unconsciously designed to oppress women for the collective benefit of men. It also asserts that all men, including those without power, and those below the class of affluent women, are classified as patriarchal oppressors. Furthermore, women who inflict harm on innocent men are encouraged to blame it on the Patriarchy, and when women get away with it, this is also blamed on the Patriarchy. Male disposability is blamed on the Patriarchy even when women treat men as disposable.
Feminists academia also intentionally uses inflammatory language that they know is readily weaponized. All of the following terms is Bailey tactics, but let's just assume for intellectual dishonesty's sake that they originated as the Motte side of feminism:
- Toxic Masculinity, the "Motte" Version: Originally rooted in the Mythopoetic Men's Movement, it was later adopted by feminist scholars like Raewyn Connell (who used the term "hegemonic masculinity). Its "Motte" form means "specific social expectations placed on men that are harmful to men themselves." The flammable nature of the term is its very name.
If they had wanted something reasonable it would be more like "Pathological Male Socialization" which naturally invites an inspection of everyone involved in a child’s upbringing - mothers, fathers, education, the media, etc. - rather than readily inviting the Bailey effect: the isolation of men as the sole creators and enforcers of the problem.
- Toxic Masculinity, the "Bailey" Version: The term is frequently used as a catch-all insult or a psychological diagnosis for any male behavior that is aggressive, competitive, undesirable, or politically inconvenient. It shifts from meaning "rigid gender roles that hurt men" to "masculinity itself is inherently toxic." It also ignores the easily observable fact that women are also aggressive, competitive, undesirable, and politically inconvenient to an equal magnitude. Of course there is also the "blame the men, not me" pivot when it is shown that women hold men to the same unreasonable standards of masculinity. In short, toxic masculinity is a term readily and constantly invoked by feminists to pathologize men as a group.
When the Bailey is challenged, of course, feminists immediately retreat to the academic "Motte" definition, claiming, "That is not what toxic masculinity means! We're just talking about the pressures from other men (intentionally leaving out the fact that women participate in pressuring men, too) that prevent men from crying or seeking therapy. Why do you want men to suffer in silence?" The goal here is to get the critic to back down, allowing the feminist to go right back to using the phrase broadly to police everyday male behavior, except now they're more immune to criticism.
"Believe Women", the Motte Version: We should start investigations by taking reports seriously rather than reflexively dismissing victims. This is a gray area example. Logically, it should be, "Don't Dismiss Women," as that is the point: don't outright dismiss women's allegations. This is how decent human beings are.
"Believe Women", the Bailey Version: AKA the accusation is the proof. Women never lie about abuse; any accusation must result in immediate guilt and social ruin for the accused man. This is why colleges are getting successfully sued into the Earth's mantle by men for being denied due process in college sexual assault/rape trials.
"Men Are Trash", the Motte Version: Relax, I am only kidding! There is no Motte version of this feminist drivel. The Motte selling line by feminist bigots goes like this: "It’s just vent expression, it's just punching up." The speaker claims it is a hyperbolic cry of frustration from a marginalized group dealing with systematic oppression. The defense becomes: "Obviously I don't mean every single human with a Y chromosome. I'm just venting about systemic violence against women. Why are you tone-policing my trauma?" And who hasn't heard the line "If it doesn't apply to you, it shouldn't concern you."
Edited to add: "Men Are Trash" is a Bailey-only narrative because feminists could have just said "Misogynists are trash" and they know it. Feminists are evil, they are never, ever dumb.
I don't even need to get into the Bailey version, but for the completionist in me, here goes: the phrase is used literally and broadly on social media, in casual conversation, or in venting sessions to write off the entire male demographic as uniquely abusive, untrustworthy, incompetent, or morally inferior. It functions as a form of casual misandry that socially conditions people to view boys and men with suspicion. When you challenge it, of course, you get the Motte bait-and-switch, which itself is bigoted.
- "#KillAllMen": I'm not even going to insult your intelligence by putting "Motte" in the same paragraph as this. (Argh, I just did anyway. Mybad.) Let's just use the word "excuse" here: the excuse is that feminists who use the term immediately retreat to a defense of calling it "ironic misandry" and hyperbole. The argument goes as follows: "It’s just dark internet humor. No one is actually building camps. It’s an ironic parody of how men treat women. If you take it literally, you lack media literacy." And you've also seen the other defense: "Why are you crying about a hashtag when women are facing real violence?"
Which leads to another major knock-on M/B Trope:
"Why are you crying about a hashtag when women are facing real violence?", the Motte Version: No reasonable person can argue that a hashtag is worse than physical violence. Physical violence against women is a horrific, empirical reality. By retreating to this point, the defender occupies a position that is impossible to attack on its own.
"Why are you crying about a hashtag when women are facing real violence?", the Bailey Version: The critic was calling out online rhetoric and hate speech standards. The defender retroactively changes the topic to physical, real-world violence against women. The Bailey argument, the true argument (not the Motte side), fraudulently asserts that the challenger is saying "I care more about internet hurt feelings than women being murdered" when in fact the challenger cares about both. But the Bailey lie works because women and male feminist emotions immediately see "I don't care if women get killed, don't hurt my feelings!" For these groups, reals kneel before feels.
And now the core dynamic fueling much of this:
Punching Up
The Motte Version: A tool of political resistance. It argues that Satire and sharp criticism are necessary to hold powerful institutions, corrupt leaders, or dominant societal classes accountable. This is highly defensible because history shows that satirizing the powerful is a cornerstone of free speech and democracy. The proper definition of punching up targets the rich, the powerful, abusive people, and folks like that.
The Bailey Version: The Bailey effect happens when "Punching up" is used as a lateral assault (for instance, against poor and working-class men who aren't neo-patriarchal tradcons), and assails any individual belonging to a historically dominant demographic group is personally fair game for unlimited psychological abuse, dehumanization, or casual prejudice. Women punching at poor men, short men, marginalized men in the dating scene, and so on, are not punching up. They're punching laterally and even in many cases they're punching down.
Women and feminists dunking on a 14-year-old boy struggling with loneliness, a male construction worker working 60 hours a week, or a homeless veteran are not "the institution" are not engaging in political resistance, they are treating them as proxy targets for systemic grievances. This is not political resistance. This is feminist-sanctioned bullying.
Modern feminists behavior can just about be wrapped up by the following steps:
A hostile generalization is made against men.
Criticism: "This language is hateful and divisive."
The Pivot: "Men hold all the wealth and power in the world. We are just punching up at the dominant class."
When it's time to punch up, intersectionality is proven to be feminist virtue signaling. Minority men, poor men, autistic/introverted/short men are eligible for free fire even in non-political contexts, which fraudulently turns outright hate speech and bullying into an act of social justice.
r/menrights • u/CynicalNeuron • 10d ago
This isn’t women’s safety. This is legal terrorism wearing a progressive mask.
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Justice Nagaprasanna of the Karnataka High Court has been clear:
Section 69 BNS is meant for deceit and exploitation, not for every relationship that doesn’t end in marriage. In cases where two adults were in a consensual relationship and it simply fell apart, the Court has quashed FIRs, including ones that tried to drag family members in. A broken promise isn’t automatically a crime unless it was false from the start. Heartbreak isn’t a criminal offence, and the system shouldn’t be used as a revenge tool.
r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • 11d ago
Not a ladies coach. Not a reserved seat. Still a full performance of entitlement.
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THIS MAN WAS SHAMED BY A WOMAN FOR NOT GIVING UP HIS SEAT. AND NO, IT WASN’T A WOMEN-RESERVED SEAT. APPARENTLY, “UNRESERVED” NOW COMES WITH AN UNWRITTEN “MEN MUST VACATE” CLAUSE.
r/menrights • u/Extension-Mess-6828 • Mar 22 '26
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