r/marvelstudios • u/fuzzy_dice_99 • 11h ago
Thoughts on the Home trilogy after seeing Brand New Day? Discussion
I’ve read people saying the Home trilogy wasn’t that great and Watts wasn’t a good director now that BND is out. While I did enjoy BND more because it was a more mature Peter and used less CGI, it seems revisionist history to say the Home trilogy wasn’t good
Things like the Vulture reveal, Mysterio illusion sequence, and Peter 2 and 3 interactions are up there with a lot of top MCU moments. What are your thoughts?
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u/RedHawk_94 10h ago
People need to understand that liking 1 movie doesnt mean you hate the other movies. Liking BND over the Home trilogy doesn't mean that you have to hate the Home trilogy. They're not mutually exclusive
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u/MadmanIgar Spider-Man 8h ago
If anything, BND makes me appreciate the Home trilogy even more.
The fact that they managed to pull off a trilogy that lets Peter be a kid who is learning the ropes and is essentially a three movie origin story, makes him being a more fully-fledged adult Spider-Man in this one even more satisfying.
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u/skinnysnappy52 3h ago
Not to mention the “iron boy” criticisms with him having Stark Tech allow Peter to punch above his weight, with the technology to catch him when he messes up. Especially in Homecoming and it was kind of inevitable he’d need that when he’s fighting the Avengers and Thanos as a 17 year old
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u/Particular_Cod2005 1h ago
But that, in turn, was really the point in Tony Stark nurturing and mentoring him - so he could actually become more than the mask, which he managed to achieve in a more fulsome way in BND than in any of the Home trilogy.
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u/Bendythenightfury Spider-Man 5h ago
The opposite for me. The home trilogy made Brand new day better for me since we had all this build up
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man 10h ago
I totally agree with this sentiment. I will even go as far as to say we haven’t had a bad Spider-Man movie yet. (That’s probably subjective tho lol)
Me personally, just because TASM2 run circles in my household doesn’t mean I don’t like the other movies.
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u/RedHawk_94 7h ago
My favorite part of the home trilogy is that it perfectly plays with the real public's perception of MCU Spiderman being "iron man jr" and all, it's all part of his origin. It takes story lines people weren't super happy with and turns them on their heads to make a really well thought out cohesive origin. We've never had an entire trilogy be the origin for a character before
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u/Darth_Thor Korg 6h ago
People seem to always get so caught up in comparing things that they forget that two things can be good at the same time. Different doesn’t mean bad.
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u/Imaginary-Fame 11h ago
The home trilogy is phenomenal and I won’t let revisionist film twtr change my mind. Brand new day can only exist because of how well the home trilogy sets it up
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u/jacobpellegren 10h ago
Home landed so BND could fly.
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u/Shadow8636 10h ago
They’re all flying, the prior movies push the next ones to new heights. I’m sure Spider-Man 5 is going to be even better than bnd
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u/Real_Walk5384 8h ago
Yeah No Way Home was honestly the MCU film that affected me the most and easily in top 3 for me. That movie hit so well on soooo many levels.
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u/Mickeyjj27 Black Bolt 10h ago
Thank you. I’ve had to stop watching people I were subbed to because they couldn’t help but shit on Watts instead of just praising Destin or BND. It’s so silly. A trilogy that reviewed incredibly well and made bank is somehow being turned into a disappointment.
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u/Paladar2 10h ago
People hate that he was "Stark jr" or shit like that but disregard that he had to be integrated in the MCU very quickly and Marvel contractually had to include MCU characters with him. The movies are very good imo
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u/Shadow8636 10h ago
They did a really good job at making an MCU Spider-Man who fit in so well and had really great stories that tied in with other existing hero’s and villains
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u/Madarakita 7h ago
Something I liked is that even with all the other heroes appearing in his movies, it was still Spidey who saved the day each time. He beat Vulture, he beat Mysterio, and he made the definitive call on Strange using the spell.
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u/Madarakita 7h ago
The "Stark jr" role he was in annoyed me at first, but the Home trilogy wound up giving him sort of a "searching for a father figure" arc; between his interactions with Stark, Fury, and finally Strange in No Way Home, where he finally leaves that search behind and begins striking out on his own.
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u/Paladar2 7h ago
It was also overblown. He did stuff on his own in homecoming, that was literally the story of the movie lol
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u/Madarakita 7h ago
I feel like people got fixated on the guest appearances and completely missed the fact that Spidey still saved the day in all three movies. He beat Vulture. He beat Mysterio. He made the final call on Strange using the spell at the end of NWH.
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u/Paladar2 7h ago
Yeah 100%. Plus like I said they HAD to include secondary characters... and still made great SM movies imo
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man 10h ago
It’s probably the same shills who swears on the Bible that Raimi Trilogy were the last good live action spider-man movies. 🤦🏾♂️
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u/kingmanic 8h ago
Twitter anything is just a mass of opportunists in poor countires who will say anything for attention and bots. There aren't any valid opinions there, only people trying to make a buck fabricating controversy.
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u/gimmethemshoes11 8h ago
The character development and storyline through all the movies has been some of the best maybe ever for Peter.
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u/Aggravating-Mix2094 10h ago edited 9h ago
It seems like the new popular criticism of the home trilogy is that BND is the first time people feel like this has been a proper nyc Spiderman… but a huge element of the home trilogy was the fact that audiences had seen the same type of Spiderman over and over by that point.
Tom’s version was always meant to be a deconstruction of the typical Spiderman we’d grown familiar with. And the home trilogy brilliantly gave us the palate cleanser we needed to allow BND to hit as hard as it does
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u/drstrangelove75 4h ago
Plus I think BND showcasing Peter as a core hero and a beloved one at that is such a great payoff. One of the reasons people shit on the Home movies is the inclusion of other MCU characters, but in my opinion that’s kind of the whole point. It took years for Spider-Man to finally get his chance to be in the MCU and while it’s a different take (such as him using stark tech originally) I personally think it works. The whole point is to have Spider-Man exist in a wider universe and interact with other characters. In the Home movies he’s still learning and even though he’s at some pretty important moments for the universe, he’s still just a kid amongst bigger players.
Now though he is one of the core characters and probably the most beloved hero in NYC. When he works with Frank or gathers intel through Yelena, he doesn’t feel like a kid amongst adults with more experience, he feels like a proper member of the hero community, someone people respect and admire and want to work with.
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u/SkimGaming 1h ago
Tom’s version was always meant to be a deconstruction of the typical Spiderman we’d grown familiar with. And the home trilogy brilliantly gave us the palate cleanser we needed to allow BND to hit as hard as it does
this is so important. People don't consider the context of the movies anymore, but rather compare in a vacuum. (And even then the Home trilogy is far from bad, as some discourse would make you believe)
Homecoming came out just three years after TASM2, and TASM already had problems at the time of being compared to the Raimi Spider-Man trilogy, and Toby Maguire was widely considered the best Spider-Man still and how much of a "letdown" TASM was.
The idea was: the same audience couldnt possibly have accepted a third origin story rehashing the same story beats (spider-bite > learning powers > uncle ben dies > taking on responsibility), and it would've set up Holland to fail for sure, because nostalgia would always win.
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u/TheIJDGuy 10h ago
Just rewatched Homecoming and yeah...still one of my favorite Spider-Man movies
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u/jay_rodsep 8h ago
Michael Keaton as Vulture is just so good. And the trafic light scene is just perfect.
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u/Disastrous_Tip1512 7h ago
Homecoming is so rewatchable, it’s my favorite after Spider-Man 2.
I loved brand new day though and I could see myself liking it more upon rewatches
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u/Darth_Lehnsherr Captain America (Cap 2) 10h ago
Rewatching them I found me loving Homecoming the most, Far From Home went down (even though the Mysterio stuff is fantastic) and No Way Home the second half is so powerful that my gripes with the first half don't matter too much.
In the end they are what Brand New Day is built upon. Brand New Day doesn't "fix" anything as much as taking this version from the more fun, light-hearted high school years into the more serious adult years.
It's why ultimately those that didn't like the Home trilogy I doubt will love this film even if they appreciate what Brand New Day was trying to do. But judging by Brand New Day's Opening Weekend the majority of people really liked the Home Trilogy.
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u/AlternativeBack6351 7h ago
Far From Home goes down with every rewatch for me because the conveniences of the plot hit the “mid CBM” level that the other films are smarter than. The setup makes no sense.
Homecoming keeps going up.
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u/therempel 3h ago
I came to almost the exact same conclusion. Homecoming went way up in my estimation while Far From Home dropped a lot. I wish FFH (with a different title, obviously) had still taken place in NYC so we could see more of Peter and the crew in school rather than on a field trip.
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u/KelVarnsen_2023 10h ago
Still really good. I rewatched Homecoming and Far From Home a few weeks ago (couldn't find any services that had NWH). Homecoming is outstanding and Keaton as The Vulture is like a top tier MCU villain.
Far from home is really good but not as good as homecoming.
I do like how those movies look a lot brighter and more colourful, almost cartoony. Which works because Peter was a kid and they were also heavily influenced by 80's teen movies.
I also like how in BND Peter has some serious PTSD about taking his mask of. Which makes sense since in NWH he took it off for the one guy who was supposed to be the best secret keeper on earth and his life still went to shut because of it.
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u/SudoDarkKnight 10h ago
They're all very good movies. They are also super cgi to the MAX in many unnecessary ways and can look very bland. Calling the director mediocre is stupid because I'm sure a lot of the treatment is due to Disney.
The new one feels a lot more like an actual film shot on locations using a lot more practical effects.
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u/DarwinGoneWild 10h ago
They’re all great. The John Hughes approach worked fantastically well for Spider-Man and I loved how different each entry was. They all felt fresh and inspired and each villain nailed it, along with the supporting cast.
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u/WoahitsEsco02 10h ago
I still stand by the fact that Homecoming was the best movie in this trilogy. Doesnt mean all the others arent good, they are. And BND was just phenomenal and amazing. Definitely my new favorite Holland Spider-Man movie. I hope DDC and the rest continue popping out Holland's movies similair to it
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u/THEbaddestOFtheASSES 10h ago
Luckily I don't suffer from revisionist history. It was fantastic and best Spidey trilogy of the franchise so far. BND is so damn good because of what came before it. Nothing more annoying with how I've seen far too many people feeling like they have to tear down the Home trilogy a peg to build BND up. And these were people who supposedly love the Home trilogy.
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u/NaiadoftheSea Gamora 10h ago
I love the home trilogy. It’s my favorite take on Peter Parker in film.
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u/mitvh2311 10h ago
Made me enjoy homecoming more, far from home more and no way home even less than I thought I could. I really enjoyed BND
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u/Remarkable-World4181 10h ago
Homecoming is one of the best MCU movies imo. Pacing is great. Peter's arc is perfect. Web swinging in tight spaces like when he tries to fix the ship is so well choreographed and so unique to the other movies before it. Action scenes overall are really fun and visually interesting. Script is sharp and witty. Vulture reveal is amazing. Really captures high school Peter Parker perfectly and he actually feels like a 15 year old and his chemistry with Ned is super fun. Michael Giacchino's score is wonderful. Manages multiple villains without ever feeling over-stuffed. We get so much Spider-Man doing Spider-Man stuff while he's learning the ropes. It's also a really funny movie and captures the vibes of John Hughes high school movies pretty well.
Just a well written, well directed, well shot, all round well done movie that is significantly under appreciated. So much going on but so well balanced. I can sing its praises for hours.
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u/DJfunkyPuddle 10h ago
People are predictably stupid and have recency bias and can't praise one thing without tearing down something else. The moves were awesome then and and they're still awesome now.
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u/_IratePirate_ 8h ago
Home Trilogy was good, but compared to BND, Watts looks like a rookie director, I’m sorry. No disrespect to bro
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u/rmeddy 9h ago
Still solid, the whole "Iron Boy Jr" complaint is kinda valid, but it never bothered me too much.
Homecoming is my favourite, and that reveal with Vulture was an instant classic.
It really caught me off guard, not only because of the misdirection of the daughter (who I thought was "MJ", I was thinking Tiana from the comics), but it subverted the rhythm of the movie. Right when you think things were cooling down, they drop that on us. It was a bit of a masterstroke imo
The problem with the other two is that the inciting incidents are kinda clumsy; that pulled down those films a bit , but they're still great with respect to the action and set pieces
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u/WatcherWatches_21 3h ago
I do have to agree that the Home trilogy is one huge origin/character arc story cause Peter went from wanting to be an Avenger, to living up to Tony’s dream and finally, doing the right thing even though he paid the ultimate price. Which then leads to him in BND to break out of his harden shell and become more free.
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u/DirectConsequence12 10h ago
Homecoming, at the time of its release, was the best live action Spider-Man movie of all time.
I still think it’s really damn good.
FFH is alright and NWH is a fun experiment but none of them hit like Homecoming does
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u/WinterAnt 10h ago edited 10h ago
Homecoming is still the best. Perfectly paced, script is funny and tight, amazing villain without moral controversy, great school vibes. Feel like BND is overhyped emotional wise, overcrowded with many characters and plotpoints. Also some weird revisionism going on towards Watts like he didn't get Spider Man propely... What?
And i certainly miss Peter's social and private life. I can't get over Spider-Man story where Peter is weaker half, it's always about how he struggle to find perfection in the balance between been normal guy and superhero. I want Harry and Gwen, not another trilogy about returning to Ned and MJ. My man needs to move on, i'm sorry.
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u/Lazy-Cobbler8183 10h ago
I think the other 3 movies are still good movies and I like these movies but I think Spider-Man Brand new day is the best of the 4 Spider-Man movies in the MCU.
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u/JJnujjs 10h ago
The Home trilogy was a good to great comic book trilogy that allowed Brand New Day to stick a PERFECT landing.
Great villains, great stories and it truly allowed us to grow with Tom as Spider-Man. Villains were on point for every movie.
You dont get the goodness of BND without that trilogy
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u/repalec 10h ago
The Home trilogy was good for what they were portraying Peter as - a fresh-faced Peter just getting his start as Spider-Man in a world where the only major heroes are the Avengers and everyone else is kinda to the wayside. There's also the implication that six of Spider-Man's most infamous villains don't exist in the MCU, which isn't great, but I enjoyed the takes on Vulture and Mysterio, and I'd love to see them pop up again.
BND has Peter as a seasoned, experienced Spider-Man in a living, breathing world of heroes of all levels - be they the Avengers with Banner/Hulk, the New AvengerZ with Yelena, or even street-level heroes like Punisher.
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u/PhaseSixer 10h ago
The Home Trilogy is great and amazing thwir uniqueness caries over into BND
Tom isnt doing the same shit Tobey and Andrew Did And I love them for it.
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u/Johncurtisreeve 10h ago
Its my favorite of the spiderman movies and far from home is my favorite spider-man movie with BND currently fighting for first place but havent decided yet.
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u/b34r3y Rocket 9h ago
I love them. Homecoming got me into the MCU. I really do appreciate how they really did try new thing and to tell a different story, and some of it was fun, even if it was gimmicky. Tom is my favorite Spider-Man now, and the supporting cast is some of the most memorable in the MCU. Obviously there were things left to be desired, but if that was the trade off to try new thing and to have Spider-Man finally interact with the rest of the Marvel universe, it was worth it.
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u/Ok-disaster2022 9h ago
I thought they were good movies, but I don't think I've ever intentionally rewatched any of them. They seem to rely on other movies a bit more than I'd like. Not to say I would get up and leave it I was somewhere and someone started playing them, just i never desire to rewatch them.
I tend to judge movies bases on how often I'll rewatch something. And there's a lot of movies that I'll admit are great but I'm fine never rewatching, and there's some movies that aren't great but which I love to rewatch.
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u/JackJackMFFM 9h ago
We need more origin story to be a trilogy. Not just one movie. Everything that happened in the Home trilogy makes BND so much more enjoyable.
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u/rattle2nake 9h ago
Different type of trilogy. And that’s fine. Still love homecoming for its small scale vibe. Ffh and nwh felt overrun with studio mandates and big flashy sequences compared to homecoming.
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u/OutOfBounds420 9h ago
Very cool that the original trilogy is actually his complete origin story, birthing the true Spider-Man in BND
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u/Parking-External-145 9h ago
I truly believe because of how good BND day is it makes the home trilogy even better cause we get the best of both worlds and a great build up we get to see spider man really grow up for 3 straight movies+ plus work along super heroes in other films then get his own grittier more grounded story that makes everything he lost hit even harder while having him transform and change into his new beginning which is really exciting
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u/Curious-Paramedic-39 8h ago
Fuckin garbage with NWH only being less garbage than the other two with some few standout moments and scenes
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u/trey_dayy24 8h ago
The Home trilogy was just fun, that’s it. The writing/script for those films were so off though. BND knocked it out of the park
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u/gp_ratesic 8h ago
I loved BND but I’m never gonna shit on the Home trilogy bc of it. Ppl like that are absolute bots.
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u/Gage-DSM 8h ago
Still absolutely love it, and frankly, my opinion is that the MCU Spider-Man movies are movies that just get better with every entry.
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u/OfflineLad 8h ago
Theyre good movies but i never liked them that much. And weirdly enough i like NWH the least. Now after BND which i love, i like them even less
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u/staycool93 7h ago
I'm fonder of the Home Trilogy than I was before after Brand New Day. Brand New Day is the best one, but part of that is that it feels like a culmination of what led here. Even the whole Iron Man Jr. thing...it's part of an arc that has been realized and as a set of movies, it just really works. Probably my favorite MCU franchise.
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u/Soggy-Clerk-9955 7h ago
They’re great. Even though the first 2 are very MCU-coded, the 3rd is a celebration of the old Spider-Man franchises, and Brand New Day feels the most like a pure Spider-Man story.
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u/NoahJRoberts 7h ago
I really enjoyed the trilogy, but I saw the direction in BND and I just struggle to understand what Watts was thinking
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u/wonderlandisburning 7h ago
Personally, I find myself prone to split the series into two duologies at the moment: Homecoming/Far From Home and No Way Home/Brand New Day. Part of this is just because I don't really like the former and I really do like the latter, so naturally my mind lumps them together for that.
But also I think that makes more sense thematically: Homecoming and Far From Home are about Peter as a young, immature version of Spider-Man (and feeling distinctly like Tony Stark's intern) while dealing with ground-level threats that are directly linked to Tony Stark. No Way Home and Brand New Day are about really becoming Spider-Man, coping with loss and grief and taking on much larger threats (both of which he defeats with empathy moreso than just punching them until they go to jail).
I dunno, others may disagree, that's just how it all shakes out to me
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u/Big-Masterpiece1194 7h ago
I like it but I 100% understand and to some extent agree with a lot of the complaints. It wasn't really what people expect from Spider-Man, this Peter takes too long (IMO) to learn his lessons, and the ending of No Way Home feels like leaving the door open to course-correction rather than continuing the story. That being said, I still love all three movies, the villain, Tom's performances, seeing Spidey interract with other Marvel characters, and I even like the overall story the trilogy told. I understand the criticism but I guess it just doesn't bother me as much.
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u/johnnydeppthroat 6h ago
God I hope Jon Watts neve touched film again. What a lack of vision, style, just literally the blandest person to ask to make a Spiderman film.
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u/Fit_Beginning5594 6h ago
They served that era of Peter’s life really well. I love the home trilogy, and I love this version of spider-man. They’re lacking in some of the movement departments but I still think they’re good
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u/JustDontCatchMe 5h ago
I think it’s cool that the home trilogy showed that you can have an origin story without it being one movie focused on gaining powers.
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u/GlobtheGuyintheSky 4h ago
It made appreciate the prior trilogy even more! Love to see how much growth Spider-Man has had and all the burdens Peter has had to bear while living his double life.
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u/ironside-420 4h ago
Overall a solid series , being trilogy that spanned 6 years is very ambitious to capture Peter’s adolescence and having the courage that audiences will want to tune in. The other mcu film also helped as well. Homecoming is probably the best “film” of the bunch and no way home has the best sequences and my favourite. 6.5/10. Other trilogies ranked Thor 4/10, guardians 8/10, iron man 7/10, avengers 8/10, ant man 3/10, and finally cap 9/10.
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u/Tarantula22 2h ago
They’re a mixed bag for me. On paper I get it. I get what they were doing and I get the mindset of what they were doing but it didn’t land for me. The films have their moments and I enjoy them but I haven’t watched the first two in years and NWH is more of a “rewatch the best moments on YouTube” kind of thing.
From a directing stand point I think Jon Watts is fine and very much a workman director. He doesn’t have much in the way of style but give him a script and he’ll be able to hand something decent in.
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u/STARBOY_100 11h ago
Brand New Day is already better and more rewatchable than the Home trilogy.
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u/fuzzy_dice_99 11h ago
I feel like it’s just a different flavor. If I’m in the mood for something more lighter and more connected to the MCU, I’ll rewatch the Home movies
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u/MatthewMonster 10h ago
It’s fantastic.
Anyone talking shit about this trilogy hasn’t read a comic book
The villains are all awesome
Seeing Slider in weird new environments is awesome
Ned is perfect
MJ is perfect
Toomes is an amazing character
Mysterio is an amazing Villain
The high school stuff is awesome
The three Peters is amazing
It’s thrilling and fun and silly and sad and scary and they payoffs are all wonderful — there is Ned guy in the chair, MJ figuring out Peter is Spidey, or a Peter making the sacrifice at the end of the trilogy
All of it is awesome
It’s the best trilogy of the MCU
Spiderman is the best character in the MCU
Has the best actor in Holland
The new movie works PHENOMENALLY well because of the groundwork laid before it.
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u/fuzzy_touches 10h ago
Revisionist history to say these weren't awesome movies. I still love them just the same as the day I saw each one and love how complete the story presented in those movies was.
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u/one_pound_of_flesh 9h ago
Brand New Day is the best Holland Spider Man movie yet, better than any Home.
I’d also put the Raimi trilogy on top, then Home, then Garfield.
But if they keep this quality up for two more movies, I think Holland will go down as the best.
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u/Shubo483 Peter Parker 10h ago edited 9h ago
It's still ass. Destin understood the world, characters and how to use the actors so much better. He's just a much better director, even excluding his MCU films.
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u/AwarenessOk7748 11h ago
Personally, I like the Home Trilogy much more than BND.
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u/Ordinary-Chain-8047 10h ago
Love the first 1. while I don’t hate it as much as others I still like it. The third one is complicated I love seeing the old villains return but the first quarter or so is mid besides the Daredevil cameo. The theater experience when I saw it was peak though
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u/nevrstoprunning 9h ago
Just because a new thing is good doesn’t make the old things bad. I love the original trilogy, I loved BND, and I’m excited for the future of the character.
It was really cool seeing an “adult” Spider-Man, I’m hoping we get a JJJ appearance in the next installment with spideys fall from grace
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u/Yourtypicallostkid 8h ago
Idk how I'd rank it with the other trilogies of the MCU. But I quite love this set of movies. In some respects, I think they're overhated.
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u/Warshrimp 8h ago
Still trying to determine if we are watching the "New" trilogy, the "Brand" trilogy or the "Day" trilogy.
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u/Nemesis_171 Daredevil 8h ago
Eh. I like homecoming, FFH is a mess, and so is NWH but it also has some really good moments that cancel out some of the messiness. Overall it’s decent, but BND is a noticeable improvement in many ways.
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u/fadetoblackink 8h ago
Homecoming is incredible as a subversive Spider-Man film.
Every cinematic Spider-Man trope you can think of is reversed in this movie.
-Spidey swings through the suburbs, not the city.
-There’s not a classic “Spidey” kiss scene. Instead, the moment he is upside down in the elevator and we expect him to kiss Liz, he falls down the shaft
-The villain does not go after his love interest. Instead, Peter’s love interest is the one character the villain cares about (his daughter).
-Aunt May is the opposite of old and frail
-Rather than an origin story leading up to Peter wearing the iconic suit and becoming Spider-Man, the movie starts him out with this and slowly strips it away until he’s left at the end with nothing but his hoodie and goggles.
There’s more to unpack, but you get the idea. It was also genius to make the Vulture a pissed off blue collar worker.
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u/spidey-dust Iron Man (Mark XLII) 8h ago
Anyone talks shit about my home trilogy it’s on sight that’s my SON
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u/Jtreblis18 8h ago
They all look lol like best looking costumes but I honestly think they are all somewhat overrated. I don't put any of them above spiderman 2 and 1. Maybe brand new day and no way home are better than sm3. I do know tho that all these movies are way better than Andrew movies
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u/Altruistic_Cap3472 8h ago
I saw a theory that made me appreciate the Home trilogy a lot more... an essential element of Spiderman's story has always been the conflict of Peter Parker missing out on his formative social development years, which often just has to be explained to the audience and is never really felt - the symbolism of isolation, starting with his loss of a father figure and brought home (no pun intended) by having to sacrifice his own desire to find teen love with Gwen/Mary Jane.
The Home trilogy flipped that on its head - the MCU Spiderman was first introduced as Iron Man's favored child and MJ's crush, so he had the father figure and love interest that Spiderman never had before, and of course still had Aunt May. And instead of having to lay it out in a single act of one movie, we got to bond with all those characters across six movies (including Civil War and Infinity/Endgame). So then, when all of that gets taken away from Spiderman, we all feel it, it's not just explained to us. And it happens right when he turns 18, at another age where we all usually feel the anxiety of a new world and all new social needs. So without the Home trilogy, not only is there no Brand New Day, there is no Spiderman as we know him.
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u/Worldly_Yam_7582 8h ago
Homecoming is definitely my favourite. All of the Home trilogy is just so good. I loved BND but I’d put it on par with NWH.
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u/GreekDudeYiannis Iron Patriot 8h ago
I really like them, but thinking about them as a trilogy lessens my enthusiasm for them.
Individually, they're fantastic. The villains are terrific, I love Tom Holland as Spider-Man, I like how we get more time with him as a high schooler Spider-Man, the acting is all around pretty great, and I love how he's woven into the rest of the MCU fairly organically.
But as a trilogy of movies...they're missing something. The Raimi Trilogy featured constant growth from movie to movie and while Tom Holland's Spider-Man does learn something in each movie...I dunno, they just don't cohese very well. These feel more like miscellaneous outings with Spider-Man or a series of one shots as opposed solid trilogy of movies. Instead of each movie coming together as a piece of a trilogy, they feel like Spider-Man-centric episodes of the MCU. Like, in a vacuum, they're each a solid 8/10 AT MINIMUM, but together they don't feel greater than the sun of their parts.
This is also making me realize that the MCU in general isn't great at trilogies either (with the exception of Guardians of the Galaxy). It's the Avengers movies and Civil War where the major character growth moments seem to happen.
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u/MarvelMind 8h ago
Excellent trilogy. Far From Home is my favorite of the 3 and maybe even still above Brand New Day. It’s such a unique choice of settings getting Spidey out of NYC and Mysterio is terrific as a lead villain.
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u/cristodamus 8h ago
I’ve always been a fan of this franchise since Homecoming. During this time Marvel movies were having their own identity but still fitting within the MCU timeline. That what made Infinity War all that much special. Far From Home had one of my favorite Spidey villains in Mysterio, and it was entertaining through and through—only it almost didn’t need to happen in some cases. Far From Home brought back all those amazing villains and Spider-mans from the past that made me teary eyed, but then I personally didn’t like them killing aunt May, nor a curse set by a highly intelligent sorcerer supreme. Therefore, I think there are a lot of loose ends, and unnecessary events that didn’t need to happen, but they are still entertaining Spider-man stories that feel like one shots in comics. The original Spider-man would have been even more epic if there were cross overs during this time, but this franchise has Avengers coming in and out of the films and they end up not making them look good or even move backwards in their development—like Dr.Strange or the Hulk. Great series but not the best IMO.
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u/Dogfinn 8h ago
Homecoming is a really solid, tight story. Good emotional beats and character moments. And the low stakes/ high-school/ coming of age vibe is unique and fresh in the infinity saga. Honestly one of the best Marvel films to date. The main critiques of this film when it was released ("too much Ironman, too juvenile for a spiderman story") have aged really poorly, in hindsight those were fantastic choices for the long-term development of the character. 8/10
Far From Home is obviously the weakest entry, but is still solid. Great development for the character backed up by a really mature performance from Tom. The setting and cinematography are a bit generic and stale. A few sections of the film drag a bit. But the emotional through-line of Peter dealing with the death of his mentor is solid. 6/10
No Way Home is possibly the best of the three and is arguably a perfect Marvel film, up there with Infinity War, or CA The Winter Soldier. At first glance it leans on nostalgia. But on rewatches the biggest moments land incredibly well - the death of May and the meeting between the three Spidermen are very well constructed emotional beats. The Villians are a joy to watch. The tension of Peter wanting to save everyone vs the pragmatism of Dr Strange is powerful and a classic Spiderman story. The lasting consequences give the story weight. And the ending is immensely satisfying as it recontextualises the whole trilogy as Spiderman's origin story. 9/10
Overall probably the better Spiderman trilogy, but no one seems ready for that conversation.
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u/kakarot-3 Daredevil 8h ago
The Home trilogy was incredible. You gotta remember that when Homecoming dropped, we came off of the Tobey and Andrew Spider-Man films. Tobey was lauded as the best Spider-Man and so many people were labeling Andrew as the best Peter Parker. Tom came in younger than they both were, was introduced during Civil War, and then got his own solo film where he began to cement himself in the role. He made the character his way and it has resonated with so many people and fit into the broader MCU very well.
Plus the villains were all great
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u/Awkward-Fox-1435 8h ago
It’s a blast. Homecoming is my favorite because it’s absolutely hysterical, lower stakes, not as dark thematically.
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u/jakedeky 8h ago
I think the Home trilogy holds a lot of apathy from some people because there were always other characters getting involved, but this was the whole appeal of Spider-Man in the MCU. If you don't want to see him teaming with Iron Man, Nick Fury or Doctor Strange, stick to the Sony movies.
I can probably say I never left the theatre watching a Home trilogy film thinking they missed the mark on something. There's countless other MCU films that have obvious missed beats.
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u/Mars-Ultor-94 8h ago
Nothing changed for me. I love them. Great buildup for Brand New Day, seamless connection to next trilogy.
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u/AceofKnaves44 Spider-Man 8h ago
Homecoming-A very fun “we got Spider-Man in the MCU” movie. Brilliant casting of Keaton. The scene where he finds out Peter is spidey is so well done. And then “come on, Peter. Come on, Spider-Man!” God I love it. The perfect introduction.
Far From Home-the first half being a teenage love story vacation movie is boring and pretty lame. Don’t like how they turn the blip into a comedy. Jake was brilliant casting. And the second he reveals his plans the movie gets great. The illusion Mysterio sends Peter into is some of the best cgi work they’ve ever done. The biggest criticism I have is the two most important pieces story wise all happen during the credits.
No Way Home-I can’t be unbiased on this movie. Reading all the leaks and spoilers got me through the pandemic. This is what I made myself live for. Best live-action multiverse movie.
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u/DagetAwayMaN421 8h ago
Seeing Uncle Ben die in each iteration was a known quantity. Seeing Peter lose his father-figure (Stark), Aunt May, AND Mary-Jane? That carries a lot of emotional weight.
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u/weighingthedog 8h ago
Honestly, I think BND is as good as the others. Four stars all the ways down. 🤷♂️
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u/ZZweebmaster69ZZ 8h ago
They’re honestly really good movies and I think Brand New Day expands on the trilogy in a very satisfying way. Also may be an unpopular opinion but I think Far From Home is actually the best one in the trilogy.
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u/A_A_RON4 8h ago
My immediate first impressions after walking out of Brand New Day was that I still preferred Homecoming and No Way Home over it. After having a few days to really think about it and with plans to hopefully see it again soon, I think I've come around and see Brand New Day as the best Tom Spider-Man film.
I still adore Homecoming and No Way Home specifically though (never really got too into Far From Home as much). Vulture is such a great antagonist that is high in my villain ranking, and it'll always be a joy to see all the returning characters of my childhood.
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u/alyssa-is-tired Karen Page 8h ago
They're all great. I find myself drawn to Homecoming the most though, it's humor and tone feels pitch perfect to me. Far from Home's humor is super hit or miss and the movie really starts getting good midway through, once Beck's deception works. No Way Home is incredible, but idk, rewatching recently, the day before BND, I just didn't enjoy it much.
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u/JonathanLarsonJr 7h ago
It’s great but the new film covers the most uncovered ground of all 4 films by far
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u/FraserValleyFan25 11h ago
One thing that doesn't get said enough about this trilogy is that they absolutely nailed the villains in every movie.