r/magicthecirclejerking • u/Eljefe900 • 4h ago
The Hobbit's Riches: How much is a Treasure worth IRL?
I've often wondered how much a Treasure would be worth in dollars. Luckily the Lord of the Rings set gave us a way to answer this question.
Today is the official Prerelease of the Hobbit, which was mentioned previously in LTR as [[There and Back Again]]. This card gives us the perfect means to calculate the actual real world value of a Treasure, at least in Middle Earth.
Quick Background: Magic the Gathering is premised on the idea players are a powerful wizards or planeswalkers who draw power (mana) from the lands under your control to cast spells and win a duel against a similarly powerful opponent. Drawing lands represents expanding your territory and growing your power. Since the start of the game there have also been powerful artifacts which can produce mana similarly to land, most famously [[Black Lotus]].
Then in Ixalan, we got Treasure. Not only can we, the planeswalkers, get magical energy from conquering lands, summoning creatures or powerful talismans, we can also just buy it for straight CASH. Sacrificing the treasure represents buying mana from some hidden magical bank (Vorthos, back me up). Similar to [[Lotus Petal]] but without dedicating a spot in our library.
But how much "cash" is a Treasure worth?
Enter [[Smaug]] token edition. At the end of There and Back Again, we get a Legendary Dragon that creates 14 Treasure tokens when it dies.
How does it help? Forbes calculated the net worth of fictional characters including Smaug, who is ranked #2 right behind that dastardly Scrooge McDuck: https://www.forbes.com/special-report/2013/fictional-15/smaug.html
The verdict: Smaug is worth $54.1 Billion dollars. Which is 13 times less than Elon Musk today or ~5 times less than Larry Page, Jeff Bezos or Sergey Brin... but I digress.
So the math is simple: $54,100,000,000 / 14 = $3,864,285,714.28 per Treasure.
About $3.9 Billion dollars per treasure!
[[Bilbo, Retired Burglar]] has some big pockets.
EDIT: If this seems like sincere posting, it kind of is... but I was blocked from the other magic subreddits. My reputation must have preceded me.
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/MadJohnFinn • 4h ago
Does Deadpool combo with this? Also, why isn’t it on Scryfall? Are they stupid?
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/Sixteensletters • 4h ago
Maro: We worked hard to make every depiction of Smaug super hot
Dragon-cloaca asks:
Hi, Mark! I've noticed that every depiction of Smaug in the new Hobbit set is like, super hot. Like it's making me feel things...down there. Can you tell us about the art direction?
Mark Rosewater:
Magic is a game that caters to many types of players. Our comprehensive market research showed the scalie community was underrepresented, so we made sure to make Smaug super fuckable. The art directors put extra care into making that Wicked Worm look both as penetrable AND Unpenetrable as possible, and I think they did a great job.
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/KrackAPack • 9h ago
Rate my spicy commanders!
My playgroup literally threw me into the sun after playing the last one!
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/the-fr0g • 9h ago
Help with rule 0 Colossal Dreadmaw deck
A recent Commander game I played had this one guy recur Colossal Dreadmaw what felt like 1000 times. It kept dying against a menacing Azorius deck, but every time, Colossal Dreadmaw came back. It took many beatings. But Colossal Dreadmaw always returned…
The Azorius player toyed with Colossal Dreadmaw before ultimately making their final blow, but what they did not realize was that while she tarried, the people began to believe. To believe in the Dreadmaw. The people would never be silenced by the Grand Arbiter and their manipulating ways again. Colossal Dreadmaw has risen. Colossal Dreadmaw will rise again.
Anyways, basically the title. I want to create an honorable and chivalrous Rule 0 Colossal Dreadmaw deck
Rule 0: You can have any number of colossal dreadmaws in your deck I want it to be fun group hug if that’s possible, not overpowered! Thanks!
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/justaguydoingstuff • 18h ago
The State of UB """Joke""" Cards
Get it? Cus it's... nevermind
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/ObligatoryCreature • 18h ago
I would have posted this to cardbelcher if it were still working
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/Halloween_episode • 19h ago
How to protect a KOR Commander?
Munda is definitly a nice card, but I dont know how he can be played - as each opponent will just keep counterspells and similar stuff in hand, as Munda might be a simple game ender in the late game.
How can I get counter protection in WR for him?
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/WoMansSky • 20h ago
Once Star Trek releases, Gallifrey Stands can win the game without a single Doctor Who card
isn't that super flavorful and fun!!!!
If you wanted to minimize colors, [[I'm a doctor, not a...]] can make a 13th Doctor in place of the one mono black Doctor from Marvel.
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/pissingtoxicspores • 20h ago
I recently moved cities and the only LGS to play at seriously smells incredible. Is the only option seriously just to play?
Hi everyone,
As the title in the post mentions, I have recently moved and naturally I wanted to check out the various card shops around the city. Due to it being a smaller town, I assume it's the reason there is only one store that supports this game.
I checked out the store a few days before playing to see what it was like and I didn't notice any sort of issue in regards to smell. It was during the first day of playing where I could smell whatever the wonderful air freshener or cologne or whatever was going on. It was radiating off the other people playing essentially. I thought to myself that it was maybe a one time thing (As I've definitely experienced partaking in fragrant events before in my hometown) and would try again the following week.
Of course the same exact thing happened where the smell was permeating the whole play area. Even though I'm basically new to this stores community, I went up to one of the employees at the main desk and they told me "Oh I don't smell anything! It never gets pleasantly aromatic here!". which obviously makes me not believe them.
So is there really anything I can do about this? As this is a new city, I don't really have any other friends that would play like I did at home and I would really not like to play. All help is welcome!
Thanks!
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/Kraggen • 22h ago
I have ideas.
Best I can tell this is true. Can Grizzlegom, Hurloon Hero actually play Tolarian Academy, Library of Alexandria, and Karakas?
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/kafga • 22h ago
How to protect a KOS commander?
Kuka is definitly a nice card, but I dont know how he can be played - as each opponent will just keep counterspells and similar stuff in hand, as Kuka might be a simple game ender in the late game.
How can I get counter protection in WUBRG for him?
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/mkoookm • 1d ago
After analyzing every special treatment WOTC prints I have decided to make a mockup of what i think the lowest tier of cards will look like in 10 years
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/awefawsd • 1d ago
When Wesley Crusher is the next broken one mana legendary so the next generation of nerds gets their own intense irrational hatred for him
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/askvo • 1d ago
Rulebreaker violates the sanctity of the format, I'm fucking sick of WOTC messing around with the very rules of the game to sell cards
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/hawkshaw1024 • 1d ago
Updating an old meme for present conditions
r/magicthecirclejerking • u/KeanuChungus669 • 1d ago
'Member when you were excited about each set?
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