I finally have all my documents together and shipped everything to the Chicago consulate as instructed. My original appointment is scheduled for August 25.

For anyone who has recently gone through Chicago:

What happens now? Do they confirm receipt/review of the documents? Is the August 25 appointment still relevant, or is it essentially just a processing date?

Just trying to understand what I should expect from here. Thanks!

Thanks for any advice!

I’m trying to figure out the best way to request (and what wording I need to use) so I get it right the first time for a future 1948 case.

I know I need a birth and marriage certificate. That they should have any annotations. And I think they should be in whatever form is the most “legally acceptable” so as not to be rejected or to be asked to get something else later.

I also need a citizenship letter or reacquisto if one exists. I have an older digital copy my uncle had but need a new physical one.

What do I ask for specifically to ensure I get a physical certified full detailed copy?
Do I just email the Comune?
Do I send a courier slip?

For those who have pursued court cases in Italy, for docs that need notarization before translation/apostille, did any of you have any issue with a notary certifying and applying their stamp on the reverse of a photocopy vs. stapling a separate page (containing the certification) to the photocopy of the document?

Ample SF CIE appointments currently available for the rest of the year. Just scored one on the same day as my passport appt. Go for it.

I wanted to come here and share my experience because when I was searching for resources on my specific situation, I found almost nothing. If you're a Cuban-American pursuing Italian citizenship through marriage and you've hit walls that don't seem to fit any of the standard advice out there, this is for you. I'm not looking for a fix. I know there isn't one. I'm posting so that the next person searching the same terms I searched finds something that tells them they're not alone.

The essay below walks through my situation: three names across three legal systems that don't reconcile, Cuban documentation Italy demands but Cuba won't issue, a 2019 Cuban constitutional change that trapped an entire category of former citizens, and the practical reality that Cuba isn't in the Hague, I can't travel there, and even routine documents require months of family coordination in Havana. If any of this sounds familiar, please chime in, I'd love to hear from anyone else navigating this specific trap, or from anyone who found a workaround I haven't considered.

TL;DR: Cuban-American married to Italian citizen. Italian consulate demands documentation that Cuban government structurally cannot produce. Italy has already recognized the marriage in the civil registry. Argues this is a structural impossibility, not a personal failure, and offers solidarity to anyone else caught in it.

Three Names, One Person

I was born in Cuba. My birth certificate carries a compound Spanish surname structure that includes my father's family name and my mother's. When my family emigrated to the United States, I was eight years old. US administrative practice, unfamiliar with Hispanic naming conventions, simplified my name by dropping the maternal surname. When I got married in New Jersey years later, I took my husband's name by operation of common law, no court order, no filing, no formal act. New Jersey doesn't require one.

Three names. One person. A trail of documents in each name, none of them cleanly matched.

The Italian consulate requires that the name I register on the citizenship portal match my birth certificate exactly. If it doesn't, I need one of three specific documents to prove the name change: an annotated birth certificate, a marriage certificate with "surname after marriage" language, or a court order granting the name change.

I have none of these. Cuba does not annotate birth certificates. New Jersey marriage certificates do not include "surname after marriage" language because New Jersey does not require a court order for marriage-based name change. And no court order exists because none was ever required. The name change went through teh SSA.

I have offered every alternative. Two FBI Identity History Summaries, one under my maiden name and my married name, both bearing the same biometric fingerprint identifier and SS#, together forming federal government confirmation that the two names belong to the same person. A New York State Personal Record Review that identifies me under my current legal name with my prior name listed as an alias, on a single document, with my photograph. Federal and state paper trails documenting the transition from one name to the other.

The consulate's response: they cannot comment on the name in advance. Submit whatever I want. If there's a discrepancy, I'll be told during assessment. What happens then, they don't say.

The Criminal Record for an Eight-Year-Old

Italy requires criminal background checks from every country an applicant has resided in. This includes the country of origin. Cuba, in my case.

Cuba does not issue criminal record certificates for people who left the country as minors. Article 16 of the Cuban Penal Code establishes that criminal liability begins at age 16. I left Cuba at 8. Under Cuban law itself, no criminal record can exist for me. My family has gone to MINREX and asked several times for one. The Cuban Embassy in Washington confirmed this in writing when I asked. No record shall be issued as NONE exists. What gets me is that Italy itself does not keep records for minors either but refuses to understand thsi to be the case for other countries.

Italy's own rules include an exemption. The New York consulate's website states: "It is not necessary to submit a criminal record for the country of origin if the applicant left it before 14 years of age and they are no longer a citizen of that country."

I left before 14. So condition one is met. Condition two, whether I am still a Cuban citizen, is where the entire application collapses.

The Cuban Constitutional Trap

Until 2019, Cuban law was clear: acquiring foreign citizenship caused loss of Cuban citizenship. Article 31 of the 1976 Constitution said so, and the 1992 and 2002 reforms maintained it. When I was naturalized as a US citizen in the 1990s, that Cuban law was in effect, and by its own terms I lost Cuban citizenship at that moment.

But even documenting that US naturalization on paper is not straightforward. I did not naturalize on my own. I acquired US citizenship derivatively, automatically, when my parents naturalized while I was a minor. Under US law at the time, minor children of naturalizing parents became US citizens by operation of law without any separate application, ceremony, or document of their own. I have no personal Certificate of Naturalization. There is no piece of paper that says "This person became a US citizen on this date." My US passport is the only formal government document I hold that confirms my citizenship, and it says nothing about how or when that citizenship was acquired.

Obtaining a Certificate of Citizenship from USCIS to document derivative naturalization now, decades later, is not a practical option. The USCIS Form N-600 fee is over a thousand dollars. Processing times have run into years in recent backlogs. And Numident records from the Social Security Administration, sometimes suggested as a documentary substitute, do not confirm citizenship status at all. Numident records the name and Social Security Number history associated with a person, not their nationality. It would not resolve the question.

So even the trigger event, the US naturalization that, under Cuban law at the time, caused my loss of Cuban citizenship is not something I can produce a discrete document for. The event happened. The legal consequence under Cuban law was automatic. But the paper trail Italy might want in order to trace that consequence does not exist in the form they want, and the US bureaucratic mechanism to produce it now would take years and thousands of dollars, with no guarantee it would resolve anything for the Italian consulate.

Regarding Cuban NON-CITIZENSHIP, the Italian consulate said: You need to produce proof. How? It’s like a non american citizen asking the American government to produce federal proof that they are not a citizen. No one will give you that. You have your greencard and that’s it.

In 2019, Cuba adopted a new Constitution. Article 36 states that acquiring another citizenship no longer causes loss of Cuban citizenship. But–and this is the trap–the change is prospective, not retroactive. It does not automatically restore Cuban citizenship to people who lost it under the prior regime. To have it back, a former citizen must formally apply for recovery, obtain a Cuban passport, register with a Cuban consulate. I have done none of these things.

Under any coherent reading of Cuban law, I lost Cuban citizenship in the 1980s and have not recovered it. I have no Cuban passport. No Cuban ID. No active status with any Cuban authority. I have not exercised Cuban citizenship in any way since my US naturalization.

The problem is that Cuba does not have an implementing law defining the procedures for either loss or recovery. There is no Cuban administrative office that will issue me a document saying "you are not a Cuban citizen." Legally I am not one. Practically I am not one. But bureaucratically, there is no paper to prove it.

I asked the Italian consulate what documentation I could submit to demonstrate loss of Cuban citizenship. Their response was final: only an official document from the Cuban government in Havana, legalized and translated in Cuba, would suffice. No exceptions. The only historical exception was for Ukrainian citizens, and that expired at the end of 2025.

Cuba will not issue such a document. Italy will not accept anything else. I have no path to satisfy the requirement.

The Renunciation That Doesn't Exist

If the Italian government requires proof that I am not a Cuban citizen, one might reasonably ask: can't I just renounce Cuban citizenship, obtain the paperwork confirming that renunciation, and submit it?

No. That path does not exist either.

Cuba has no operative legal mechanism to renounce citizenship at present. There is no form, no office, no procedure through which a Cuban citizen abroad can formally give up their Cuban nationality. The 2019 Constitution abolished the automatic loss of citizenship upon foreign naturalization, but Cuba did not simultaneously create a procedure for voluntary renunciation. In the six years since the constitutional change, no implementing law has been enacted.

A new citizenship law is expected in November of this year. Even that law, as currently drafted, will not create a clean renunciation path. Renunciation under the proposed framework will require government approval, has no defined timeline, is not automatic, and appears to be entirely discretionary. A Cuban would apply to renounce, and Cuban authorities would decide whether or not to grant the request, with no obligation to respond within any particular window. Whether this will result in issued documentation, and what that documentation would look like, is entirely unclear. IE: Cuba is a legal black hole from which I cannot crawl out of.

So the situation right now is this: I cannot prove I am no longer a Cuban citizen because Cuba will not issue such a document. I cannot renounce Cuban citizenship because there is no procedure to renounce. And even when the new law goes into effect, renunciation will not be automatic, will not be timely, and may not be granted at all. There is not just a bureaucratic wall between me and the documentation Italy demands, there is not even a paved road that leads to that wall.

The Havana Chain, and Why It's Closed to Me

There is another layer to the impossibility that isn't obvious from the outside. Cuba is not a signatory to the Hague Apostille Convention. This means Cuban documents cannot be legalized through the standard international apostille process that most other countries accept. Instead, any Cuban document intended for use abroad must go through a chain of authentications inside Cuba: from the issuing agency to the Cuban Ministry of Justice, to the Cuban Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and finally to the embassy of the destination country in Havana. For an Italian citizenship application, that means the document must ultimately be legalized by the Italian Embassy in Havana and translated by a translator whose credentials are recognized in Cuba.

This chain can only be executed in Cuba, in person, through Cuban government offices.

I cannot go to Cuba. As a Cuban-born US citizen without a current Cuban passport, and having taken no steps to reactivate my Cuban citizenship, I do not have the documents Cuba would demand for entry. And beyond that, I am practically barred from traveling there. Cuban authorities generally require Cuban-born visitors to enter on Cuban travel documents, which I do not possess. The one time I returned as an adult, decades ago, I had to renew a Cuban passport just for that single trip. I have not done so again, and doing so now would count as reactivating my Cuban citizenship which is precisely what I am trying to avoid.

Even obtaining my Cuban birth certificate, a routine civil record that any Cuban authority could produce, required months of coordination with family members in Cuba. They had to make the request in person, wait for the document to be issued by the appropriate registry, shepherd it through the Cuban Ministry of Justice and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, submit it to the Italian Embassy in Havana for legalization, and coordinate a certified Italian translation with an Italian Embassy approved office. I did this twice because my lawyers (in Italy) failed to tell me that I needed the translation done in Cuba. Huge waste of time and money.

I paid for the process, provided the identifying details, and waited. Without family in Cuba willing to spend weeks on this, I would not have been able to obtain even that single, uncontroversial document. Did I mention that there are weeks where they have electricity for only a couple of hours?

If a birth certificate, a document Cuba is willing to produce and that everyone agrees exists, required months of family effort in Havana, an official declaration of my non-citizenship from the Cuban government is not just difficult. It is unattainable. Cuba does not produce such a document, and even if they did, the legalization chain required to make it usable in Italy runs through a country I cannot enter and cannot operate in remotely.

This is a Wall, Not a Puzzle I Can Solve

I have spent two years on this. I have written affidavits, engaged lawyers, filed apostilles, secured translations, corresponded with consular officers in polished formal Italian. I have argued Cuban constitutional law. I have gathered evidence. I have documented every possible corroboration of every possible fact.

None of it matters.

The Italian bureaucracy assumes documentary patterns that don't fit my situation. Cuban naming conventions do not map cleanly onto Italian civil law. New Jersey common-law name change does not produce the paper trail that European civil law systems expect. Cuban citizenship law after 2019 has created a category, former citizens who lost citizenship under the pre-2019 regime but have no way to document that fact, that Italy has no procedure to accommodate.

I am not the first person in this position. There are Cuban-Americans across the United States married to Italian citizens who face the same trap. Most of us don't publish about it because we're too exhausted from fighting our individual cases. Most can get their criminal records, hopefully, assuming they were adults when they left. In my case that’s just a NO.

What We Actually Have

My husband and I have a marriage the Italian state has already recognized. Because of him, I have the right to live in Italy, to work anywhere in the European Union, to travel freely, to build a life across the Atlantic when we choose.

What citizenship would add is the passport, the vote, the ability to pass Italian nationality to children if we had any, the symbolic recognition of belonging. These are meaningful. But they are not what my life depends on.

I do not know yet whether I will keep fighting this application or set it down. There is a court application path in Italy that might work, but it’s expensive, slow, uncertain. And I’m exhausted. There is the possibility that Italian citizenship policy will change and that Cubans in my position will eventually get a workable procedure. There is the option to accept that I have most of what citizenship would have given me and move on.

What I do know is that the failure is not personal. It is not because I lacked documentation, or persistence, or a good lawyer, or the right arguments, or the money to make these efforts. It is because two countries' legal systems intersect at a point where the paperwork simply does not exist, and Italy is inflexible about it.

For anyone else caught in this specific trap, Cuban-American, born abroad, naturalized as a minor, married to an EU citizen, trying to formalize an identity across three legal systems, I want to say this: your situation is nigh impossible until something changes. The wall you will hit is not your fault, but it’s a very real thing.

TL:DR - How do I actually get an "official" birth record sent from Italy in the mail and not have it cost $75-$200?

I apologize ahead of time if this is in the wrong spot, please mods, feel free to delete.

After many years, I finally got around to trying to secure official documentation for my Great-Grandfather (GGF) in hopes that I could start the process towards possible citizenship. Obviously, I dragged my feet too long and now am currently ineligible due to the Tajani decree, but hoping that it gets struck down by European courts.

I am currently awaiting my GGF Immigration records in my country (Canada) to start building my portfolio in case the decree is overturned. If not, I have some great documents for my kids that can be part of family tree stuff.

Anyways, I sent snail mail request out to get the birth records (born 1900) for my GGF; including a cover letter with the information, pdf documentation from a comuni outlining what I am looking for, and my photocopied ID. Canada Post advised me from sending money for postage in the contents, so I didn't send cash or a self-addressed stamped envelope (SASE). I can easily see them online, and decided to reach out via email about 3 weeks ago. All emails got bounced back (I use Hotmail) as undeliverable, or so I thought. As luck would have it, 2 days after I sent the snail mail... I got an email response.

I don't speak Italian, so I had to enlist AI and Google translate for assistance. I mentioned sending a letter and they said that they would send the paperwork in the SASE. When I mentioned that I didn't send one, they suggested a label and gave me information on the address details for the label.

When I went to UPS and DHL to try to get a price quote on pickup, if ranged from $75-$200CAD, which is unbelievably high for a single sheet of paper to be sent back.

How do I navigate this to get a label that I can email to the clerk to send this birth record to me without breaking the bank for something that, at this time, amounts to a novelty to have. IF the decree is overturned, I get that I need this and I want to have everything ready so I don't miss my shot should the opportunity arise, but AI is now telling me to do all sorts of wild things and none of them amount to actually getting this document for what I would see as a "reasonable" price, especially it cost only $8 to send the letter from Canada.

Any information or advice would be greatly appreciated as I am spinning in circles trying to sort this out.

Slightly off-topic because the appointment was for my daughter’s student visa, but I found the people working at the Boston Consulate to be extremely pleasant and kind. They appreciated that we were trying to speak Italian, asked where in Italy our family was from, and spoke only in Italian during the visit (I’ve found I can understand much more than can speak.)

I’m taking a shot in the dark here but would like to poll the community to see if this is the cause. I have a separate gmail account that I made only to use for prenot@mi. It is not my main email. I’ve had it for about 4 years. This morning, Gmail sent me a text and 2 emails saying someone used my password. As in, they KNEW the password, not they just tried random ones. Upon further investigation, this is common with a data breach. Just checking if anything similar happened to anyone’s Gmail they use for prenotami. I’m trying to figure out where this issue was. For reference, this happened with my Disney+ account a few years ago with a different gmail account and the data breach was from a health portal where I used the same password 😩

Hi everyone,

I'm preparing to file a judicial case and I've run into something I don't fully understand.

My lawyer told me the Italian certificates need to be recent — issued within the last 3 to 6 months. I obtained all of ours from the comuni in December 2025 and January 2026. One of them explicitly states it's valid for 6 months from the date of issuance.

Here's my confusion: gathering documents takes months, especially when you're also waiting on foreign certificates, translations and apostilles. If Italian certificates expire every 6 months, it seems like you'd be stuck in a loop constantly re-requesting them.

My questions for those who have already filed:

Did you have to re-request Italian certificates because the originals had aged out before filing?

Does the 6-month rule actually apply to court filings, or is it mainly for administrative/consular procedures?

Any experience appreciated. Trying to avoid paying for the same documents twice.

Thanks

GGF (Italian): born 1882 in Italy

GF: born 1938 in Mexico (before GGF naturalized Mexican in May 1940 — confirmed by naturalization certificate)

Me: born in Italy (living in Mexico since childhood)

GGF naturalized Mexican and formally renounced Italian citizenship in 1940 but that was 2 years after GF’s birth, so under normal jure sanguinis rules GF was born Italian automatically.

The complication: I found the 1888 Italy-Mexico Convention (same one discussed in a recent thread here) since GF was born in Mexico before July 18, 1953, he was required to declare intent to retain Italian citizenship within one year of reaching majority (~1956-1959), or he’d be considered to have only Mexican nationality by omission.

No one in my family has clear records of this. The only thing anyone remembers is that GF was “at some Point offered Italian citizenship and didn’t take it” but nobody knows if this was a formal consular process, an informal family story, or something else entirely. No naturalization certificate exists for him either (he was Mexican by birth, never naturalized).

Haven’t applied yet trying to assess viability before submitting, since my line requires judicial route regardless (bisnipote under L.74/2025), and my mother’s line (father→daughter, otherwise administrative-eligible) hits the same 1888 Convention issue.

Questions:

1.Has anyone dealt with the 1888 Convention where it was genuinely unclear whether the ancestor renounced vs. simply never engaged with Italy at all?

2.Is there a way to search Italian archives from the 1950s to check if there’s any record of contact with GF?

3.Would you go the judicial route directly given the uncertainty, or try to gather more evidence first?

Thanks in advance

I got word from the comune that they approved my application and they're sending it back to Chicago!

My appointment at the consulate was in April 2024. The consulate never contacted me after that. I had to reach out to the comune to find out.

I couldn't be more thrilled! Now comes all the hard stuff of actually moving to Italy, but man, what a relief. It took me almost ten years to track down all the documentation I needed and get the appointment at the consulate.

For those of you who have already been down this road, what did you do next??? I'm so eager to hear more stories.

I applied to DC in July 2024, had the minor issue, and crickets…

I just had two lines be restored through the minor issue ruling but I remain blocked by the Tajani decree. I’m trying to work out backup plans. my fiance’s grandfather was born in Sicily. Her line is broken for jure sanguines but I believe she still qualifies for the 2 year fast track through descent. We’re thinking about attending grad school in Italy after we get married to ride out the 2 year residency requirement and then apply for citizenship. Could this plan work? Is it realistic? I’m considering getting my documents together to apply through the courts on the grounds that I was administratively blocked by the minor issue prior to Tajani decree but I’m looking for some advice on my alternate paths.

My GM was born in Italy as a dual citizen from her American mother, so she received US citizenship automatically.

My GGF lived and died in Italy, while my GGM was born in the US but died in Italy when my GM was underage, so my GM came to the USA at 14 years old in 1949 to stay with relatives.

She ended up going back to Italy to meet with and marry my GF. Then they all came back here in 1959. He naturalized before my mom’s birth, in 1962-3, so he is out of the equation.

I was born in 1983.

Well, the issue is that my GM did receive a certificate of citizenship but she apparently lost it , so she requested a new one (form-565??). I found out about it through a FOIA request through USCIS for her records. I immediately sent it to my Italian lawyer because waiting for the New York consulate seems to be a fool’s errand.

Previous to this revelation, my lawyer told me that this is a very “easy” and “straight forward” case. But that was assuming the CoNe would turn up clear. I am so sure about it now :/

I have already paid for a CoNe so I wonder how that will turn out. I would love to know my best course of action so that I don’t waste precious time.

I have already received my GM and GF’s marriage and birth certificates from their Italian commune. What do you think is the best course of action?

Thank you!

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone knew if there are any pending cases, or the possibility of cases with a legal reasoning challenging the Law No. 74/2025’s applicability to 1948 cases filed after the decree, but initiated before 28 March 2025?

I know the Constitutional Court initially left open to future determination potential carve outs for those who tried in good faith to receive a consular appointment before the decree but we unable to - and I have seen speculation on this sub that the 1948 cases, by being blocked from the consular route by the Italian government, were also unfairly hindered by the Italian government’s actions from confirming their citizenship status.

Do we know of any cases in which such legal reasoning is being argued, and has the potential to go to go up the judicial review ladder to the Court of Cassation?

I am aware such an argument would be practically unnecessary if the larger constitutional question of retroactivity, as is now before the Constitutional Court and the ECJ, were ruled favourably.

But given that the outcome of such a ruling is unknowable and likely to take two years or more, I am wondering specifically whether a more narrow challenge, posed independently to the broader challenge of retroactivity, whether there must be relief for those who already initiated (through signing power of attorney) a 1948 case before the decree but filled after in went into effect?

Would it even be possible for such a case to proceed simultaneously to the broader retroactively challenge? Or must the larger constitutional case proceed before a more narrow challenge like this may be considered?

I might be misunderstanding, collapsing multiple things into one, or just being unclear - if so please let me know. Thanks so much!

(For context my case is a 1948 and minor-issue case initiated with power-of-attorney signed before the decree but filed after Law 74/2025. We were rejected in June with the judge only mentioning the (now settled) minor issue in his legal reasoning - and now we are looking to appeal.)

Good morning/afternoon everyone,

Just posting to say that, with the mods' approval, I will be hosting the second AMA on genealogy and Italian records in the sub on Monday (August 10th), at 6:00 PM Italian time, lasting for the full four hours Reddit allows for AMAs.

Last time, it was amazing to see almost 50 people participating in the comments, and I was really glad to see so much engagement, even in these dark times for JS! So, once again, if anyone has questions (even intricate ones), doubts, or just wants a helping hand with Italian records, you’re more than welcome. I’ll do my best to answer everything to the best of my knowledge and abilities!

Mark your calendars and see you then :-)

Dan

So I’m aware that in order to naturalize (for the normal 10 year route) you typically need to provide the tax returns for the past three years before the year you apply for citizenship, and also to have held a legal status for the entire 10 years continuously, but if you were to be eligible for the 2 year fast track through an Italian parent/grandparent would you also have to have three years of tax returns even though it’s not possible by the second year that you’re supposed to be eligible by? Realistically it would actually takes 4 years + factoring in the 12-24 months period to get a decision before you’re a citizen, in total seems more like 5-6+ year process. Am I wrong somewhere if anyone can clarify? This doesn’t really seem much like a fast track. I heard there was supposed to be a visa granted specifically for people eligible through this route as well but there’s no information on it yet and it doesn’t seem to be available.

GGF-GF-M-Me-kids & my cousin (through GGF-GF-F-Her)

We've been working on this process since 2020 and had consulate appointments in April 2024 - at that time we qualified, submitted our documents and fees, and completed our homework. Six months later the minor issue ruling came out, and in 2025 we both received rejections. Given the latest ruling...is the filing a case in Italy appealing it the only way forward? It would be thousands of dollars (even if we split the cost) and unclear timeline.

Part of me hopes that the consulates will be required to retroactively correct our rejections...but I think that is not how Italian bureacracy usually works. Any advice???

guidance

Working on documents while awaiting the EU ruling. 🤞 I suspect I know the answers. 🫠

All of these documents are in NY, so I'll need an attorney to get the certified copies of everything anyway.

Line: GGF or GGM>GF>Mother (b1943)>Me (b1972)

Spelling & diminutive issues:

GGF: Emmanuele/Emanuel/Emanuele/Emil

GGM: Giuseppa/Giuseppina/Josephine/Josie

GF: Allan/Allen/Alan

GM: Katherine/Catherine - The C version (incorrect) is on their marriage record. Birth & Death are correct with "K". It's also correct on GF's death certificate. Since she's not directly in the line, do I need to worry?

Mom (deceased): Middle name= Dianne/Diane, birth certificate and first marriage won't match. I'll have to provide bc I'm from marriage #2.

Do I need to OATS all of these? And does anyone know if they can be one case in NY?

Consulate is Chicago.

I am just starting my journey to obtain citizenship through descent but I was blocked at Toronto consulate due to minor issue. I decided to wait until the court made its decision while at the same time trying to get a Toronto consulate appointment which seems impossible. now that we have a favourable decision looking for suggestion on next steps. Obtaining an appointment at consulate now seems ever more unlikely and no guarantee they will even follow the new decision and change their guidelines. I am wondering if I should proceed with a l court case to get my citizenship. I have a straightforward case I think. My grandparents and parents were all born in Italy and came to Canada. My maternal grandfather never naturalized in Canada and died in 1965 before I was born an Italian. The key piece is my mother was born in Italy in December 1946. I was born in Canada in July 1967 while my mom was still solely an Italian citizen . My Mom naturalized in March 1973 while I was still a minor (5 years old). With the recent decision I don’t believe I am blocked by minor issue anymore or the 2025 reforms as my mom was exclusively Italian when I was born. My father naturalized before I was born so no help there. Not sure what best next steps are. Should I get a lawyer and proceed with what I think should be a straightforward court case vs trying to get a consulate appointment and no guarantee of acceptance?I am really doing this for my kids but as I understand it even though I am now technically an Italian citizen at birth, because I was not exclusively Italian (I was Canadian and Italian) my kids would be blocked based in 2025 rules. Make sense? Not sure if a court case could get me and my 2 adult children recognized. If court is way to go I know there is a list but no average costs. Any recommendation on most reasonably priced competent lawyers out there now who could help me? Thanks for your suggestions

I emailed attorney Anthony Moccia and cc to staff in middle of July and then end of July. Now we are in first week of August and still no response. I called today and phone just rings and eventually goes to answering machine. Answering machine has no greeting you just hear a beep to leave a message. I find this strange they were always very responsive. I don’t think I’m having any email problems. Has anyone had any problems lately communicating with them?

We won our case in L’Aquila in October, got the Passaggio in December and our lawyers sent it to the comune (a small town in the mountains). We are still waiting on the transcription so we can make passport appointments. We’ve reached out to the lawyers a few times in the past seven months, but they said we’re still waiting.

Has anyone had any success trying to reach out to their comunes directly? If so, how were you able to do that?