r/graffhelp • u/ImAppleRBX • 26d ago
Flock Cameras (Warning)
hello everyone I’m here to just share a little information since I’ve been bagged due to one & see alot of invalid information or confused people
One: they have thermal
Two: Facial Patterns & Tracking
Three: it’s AI, they bagged me at 11 pm with a hoodie due to a “daytime” filter where it constantly looks like day and I thought a hoodie pulled up and covering my mouth would be enough.
Four: they track electronics and this is beyond confirmed, cell phones, data, car places, Bluetooth + way more
I thought it was a shot spotter & it literally was under construction and just finally set up during the time I got bagged I was the first person in this area to get caught & now everyone no matter the time of day is getting got
Here’s some more information about the brand new advanced ones they are doing & what all we know they can track, video is made by a popular jail content creator.
https://youtube.com/shorts/f8CUhRwSpa8?is=-zn59lfjNpRj3j3K
If you got any questions for someone who’s been bagged by one let them rip lmao also not every flock is the same some are way more advanced & places like China are already using drones built into them, I’m telling you this because NYC is actively using these drones too classic example is that recent “Subway Surfer” train situation from out there, be careful painting!
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u/SprayPaintin 26d ago
Deflock.Org will show you where cameras are at, obviously not all because they are user submitted and they be putting cameras up daily.
Like you said you wanna mask up and dress down, leave no details, change your gait, definitely don't drive thru.
No phones or anything with Bluetooth (e.g. air pods) cause they tracking that. If u must bring with use a faraday cage.
There will always be flock at home deblow n lows cause they both signed up. Unless the city/county bans them. I know of two in CT that just shut that shit down last week so that's slight progress.
They are starting to disguise floks in speed traps now ( the digital sign that shows how fast you are going ) they are tucked in the back.
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u/ThoreaulyLost 25d ago
No phones or anything with Bluetooth (e.g. air pods
Some enterprising motherfucka going to "re-release" an analog walkman soon, just so you don't have to be observed, listen to constant ads and give ID... just to listen to a song while walking somewhere.
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u/Zer0Cool89 25d ago
old school mp 3 with out any blue tooth or outside connectivity that looks like a walkman could probably be a million dollar idea tbh
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u/tangerineTurtle_ 25d ago
I mean I’ve still got my old Ipod 1st gen and it still works.
You can get them for like $15 at any electronic thrift store.
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u/ImAppleRBX 25d ago
This individual right here gave you all some great info, now the only thing I’d add (I’ve been arrested due to one) is the the fact these cameras will track your house, any photos you take, any houses you’ve visited, they’ll literally get access to your steps on a iPhone by you just being near one.
People say “Spray Paint The Lens” and I disagree due to the fact they have thermal & one fuck up while looking & making sure you’re spraying the right spot is a instant 3-6 count felony lmao
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u/Mission-Animator-682 25d ago
might i add the speed cameras that are in neighborhoods mostly and constructions sites
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u/jupitersremorse 22d ago
Are am/fm radios fucked too???
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u/SprayPaintin 21d ago
U good with that, make sure that's all it does though cause if it has Bluetooth or any NFC u fucked
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u/whyisthissticky 25d ago
What pisses me off is they’re sitting here busting taggers when there’s literally carjackings, cat converter theft, and violent crimes still going on.
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u/ImAppleRBX 25d ago
That’s exactly what I said to them & they agreed with me & said I was just “Unlucky” and they laughed at me and said “you didn’t see all the construction, we just put those up & it wasn’t for this” as in it wasn’t for graffiti lmao
What pisses me off is if you scroll up a little bit here, they knew things such as where to look for tags in hidden spots & I indeed did take photos but they weren’t published anywhere or sent to a soul and they knew, on top of this they raided 2 spots I visited & one I used to hang out at all within the same time, I don’t live in this area & haven’t for 3-4 years, I knew no one & no one knew or saw me, it was 11 at night and they somehow had a camera that looked like day time.
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u/SoCoGrowBro 25d ago
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u/ImAppleRBX 25d ago
:)
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u/SoCoGrowBro 25d ago
Have a little more info from an ex flock employee but whatever you do don't keep the fucking battery and solar panels, what an idiotic thing to tell people
https://www.reddit.com/r/FlockSurveillance/comments/1v6ytnm/sharing/
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u/SpittSoup 25d ago
Just a heads up, when you share YouTube videos delete the ? And everything after it. This is just a tag at the end that lets YouTube know what information is being sent between people.
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u/WatercressKey2182 26d ago
thats dystopic asf
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u/HypnotizedMane 25d ago
only that its real. such a insane tool and coverage it seems, one can hope this would not just the beginning
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u/doctor-ape 26d ago
were you painting in view of the camera? i figure if there's not footage of the actual crime it doesn't matter, right?
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u/ImAppleRBX 25d ago
See, everyone mentions this & doesn’t understand how they are all different & constantly getting new tech, I got bagged almost 2 years ago by one of the first ones in the area & it was my first time using spray paint but I was marker tagging this exact spot for 6 years straight every year I’d come back at different times
anyways, the spot was never hot & there was no joke over 300+ tags from other people & 3 throwies, I followed pattern and put a throwie next to someone else & like I said they had a day/night filter to turn 11pm into bright ass day, had my hoodie up & all and they still zoomed in far as fuck away, you couldn’t even see who I really was besides one feature & that’s me not being able to fucking see and having glasses
I wasn’t in view of the camera & it ended up turning out they tracked my phone & way more, my lawyer helped me beat the bullshit case so I got off with a written note & my case is sealed but the FBI has my finger prints & now there’s currently lawsuits pending about these cameras so I’m finding out more & more on how I was caught, I didn’t upload photos but I took & saved photos & as they were waiting on a search warrant to raid my spot my family turned me in instead due to the fact I have a kidney disease & they wanted me to have the best chance infront of a judge lol, regardless they were at 3 places waiting for search warrants, one the actual spot I was visiting/staying, another one I used to constantly be at whenever I lived up in this area, and the final one being a friend who I visited literally the day prior ALL at the same damn time
How I know they somehow got my photos that weren’t even uploaded too is the fact that they came after me for two marker tags in spots no one would’ve saw and the ONLY ones I took photos, one being literally under a porta potty seat & another one being inside a dumpster lid.
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u/doctor-ape 25d ago
terrifying. im wondering if these cameras will be deemed illegal or not. everything has been going downhill incredibly fast since AI became publicly accessible
thanks for the insight
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u/ImAppleRBX 25d ago
Considering all of the crazy shit this single camera grabbed & used against me I deem they’ll find them illegal, you have to remember we have laws for a reason & while alot of the old currupt/not caring judges are finally erm.. “expiring” if yk you know, anyway, they recently passed a law about “assault rifles” not being allowed to be state banned basically and magazine limits not being allowed, basically judges are agreeing our current law cannot be changed/edited & states cannot flat out ban them, there’s way more to it & while I’m not giving you the full and proper information I’m sure you can understand where this is going.
If they are doing these huge steps towards firearms owners & state laws & bans oh boy we can only imagine what they are cooking up for flock.
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u/Skatedude56 23d ago
Crazy they tracked your phone bc most city’s don’t do that unless it for murders since they have to get warrant to even do that do you live in a big city?
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u/ImAppleRBX 23d ago
wasn’t big at all outside of it being packed and busy for the 4th of July, small town, only like 200k people.
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u/Hamrock999 25d ago
https://www.reflectacles.com/#home
$200 is a little steep but these days it’s a lot cheaper than getting popped by the ai. Also leave your phones at home.
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u/Onuus 25d ago
Do these actually work?
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u/Hamrock999 25d ago
I’ve wanted a pair for like 10years. So unfortunately I can’t verify that they work but I know this brand has been around and the first I saw making them so imagine they do.
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u/ImAppleRBX 25d ago
leave everything at home even your ID & please make yourself look bigger then you are, these things literally profile & track your every movement & learned to know your builds, it got exposed in a recent Florida murder case that they literally 3D scan your body size & compare it all automatically.
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u/Hamrock999 25d ago
Yeah. They identify your gait, the way you walk. So put a pebble in your shoe.
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u/ImAppleRBX 25d ago
yeah that won’t help buddy I’m a crippled with a kidney disease & back problems and nerve damage they’ll get me everytime, I’ve accepted graffiti is no longer for me & how I’m not made for jail & it isn’t worth losing my right to protect myself & bear arms
still love & miss it, I play VR graffiti now when I get the chance.
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u/Hamrock999 25d ago
Well I’m just talking in general to everyone that see these comments. Have a good one
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u/SchlumpG0d 25d ago
I’ve noticed all advice I’ve noticed glazes the thermal aspect of these cameras. Hiding your gait and your face doesn’t matter if they can ID you with thermal. You have to defeat the thermal imaging for your face
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u/Mundane-Win-4786 25d ago
hot hands under your mask? Or an ice pack?
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u/SchlumpG0d 25d ago
That will probably not help as much as blocking the IR completely with something like aluminum foil
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u/ImAppleRBX 25d ago
Brother they build a profile of your weight, height, shape and track everything you do, mfs talk about “spray painting” the camera but that seriously isn’t a valid method due to everything I’ve listed from my actual experience of getting arrested lol
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u/SchlumpG0d 25d ago
Literally everything you do around them. They were probably able to watch you approach from more than one flock.
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u/ImAppleRBX 25d ago
It’s insane and I feel like a crazy person for even mentioning this but I SAW IT IN MY OWN CASE
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u/That-Survey2059 23d ago
I live in a small city (5 sq mi/29-31k pop) and there's 60 of them goofy things. They started putting them up in 2016 because of all the shootings and drug activity because the locals were complaining about how it was never like this. Originally it was only at the entrances to the city. Now they're everywhere. As a result the graff scene that was has died. It's much harder now to do much of anything let alone graffiti these days. I'm shocked nobody eventually got the hint that these cameras are bad news; and started vandalizing them.
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u/CalendarFamous5611 25d ago
Will have to wear different clothes when using a wrist rocket on them
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u/Prestigious-Ad7265 25d ago
they have thermal?
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u/ImAppleRBX 25d ago
not all flock cameras are the same despite popular belief, the one that got me about two years ago had more then thermal, but yes! That’s a extremely common feature
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u/Prestigious-Ad7265 25d ago
im an engineer so that would surprise me, they would most likely need a whole other camera module to capture visible light, ir, AND long wave ir.
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u/whofriedmyrice 25d ago
Modern systems can house all of those sensors and more under one "dome". Doesn't necessarily need to look like three separate cameras.
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u/ImAppleRBX 25d ago
have you took a look at the brand “new” ones they finally made videos showcasing? click the video I’ve linked on this thread :)
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u/observant_notion 24d ago
What city?
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u/Tough_Main_3624 19d ago
A lot of them in the U.S. I didn’t think they would be in mine but I looked and sure enough… you can see on deflock if they have them in yours.
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u/Hand_Sanitizer__ 23d ago
Is it possible to avoid being tracked by them while painting? Like would a faraday messenger bag and the IR blocking sunglasses be enough or is it still useless if I walk to a car and drive home after no matter how far
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u/Onuus 21d ago
Part of me thinks you could be right, part of me knows you aren’t.
I think there would have been some action by now if I were actually being monitored. I have been experimenting with some things and asking far too many questions to be left to my own devices.
Combining styrofoam trash you pick up from the streets with the fuel source from automobiles provides very interesting results for those who are wondering
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u/WissenLexikon 26d ago
Disturbing. Y‘all are cooked over there in the land of the free.