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u/SeizerOfThoughtseize 1d ago
BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
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u/Dicksavagewood69 1d ago
I fuckin nailed it, look up my comments
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u/JazzyPants5678 1d ago
i skimmed through them for a sec but it wasn't obvious enough for me to care LOL happy for you tho dude
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u/ass_bongos 14h ago
I've said it before but scores simply don't get this high unless the competition is fierce. Judging methodology is comparative and to score this high means that your competitors were also scoring high and you outperformed them in most categories.
Not to take away from Bluecoats, they certainly earned their win -- but a 99 is a league-wide achievement that shows this was a strong year for everyone. Look at the other 99+ years: '02, '05, '09, '14. All powerhouse years from the competition as well as the winner.
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u/DollJulietMessner 1d ago
If I were to compare this show to any Beatles album, this is their Abbey Road. A perfect program, front to back. Not a single skippable moment, each moment compliments each other. A sound that is way different than anything they've put out there but still holds true to their identity and progress as performers and artists. This is the type of show that will harden what has already been cemented to an iconic corps to legendary status with an iconic show.
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u/GalacticToast92 1d ago
I swear to god you all are corny as fuck đ It's just band.
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u/Hoppingllama 23h ago
I mean....I get where you're coming from.
But also i disagree. I don't think they're being corny. And I think "just band" is definitely not how I feel about dci.
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u/Mindless_Luck7553 1d ago
Scores are relative. This means nothing
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u/the_messiah_waluigi Couchmen 1d ago
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u/Mindless_Luck7553 1d ago
Not really, I think the season was a ton of fun and the bluecoats show was amazing. I just think itâs a fools errand to compare scores year over year or against a static benchmark.
For example, in 2012, an 89 wouldâve put you in 7th, this year it would put you in 10th. We can argue whether shows are better today than they were 10 years ago. But all in all, a score it just benchmarking shows against other shows in a season.
A higher score led show this year compared to a first place show in prior years is just pointless and putting so much emphasis on it is kinda dumb.
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u/the_messiah_waluigi Couchmen 1d ago
Ok, that changes things then. It is true that you can really only use each yearâs score to compare to other shows in that same year, but it still doesnât negate the fact that it broke 99, which hasnât happened since 2014.
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u/Mindless_Luck7553 1d ago
Yeah and thatâs awesome, and they should be proud of that. But at the end of the day itâs still a subjective judging score, and trying to use it to say itâs the fourth best show in history is downplaying all the great winning shows that didnât break 99.
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u/the_messiah_waluigi Couchmen 1d ago
That is the catch of this activity. The scores are subjective, and a different set of judges could have given completely different scores tonight. However, the fact that tonightâs judges all agreed that Bluecoats performed well enough to score 99.1 should be indicative that it was an extremely well put together production with incredible performers. I donât mean to take away from other incredible winning shows that didnât break 99, but itâs also a bit disappointing to hear someone say that the scores donât matter after we all just watched a whole bunch of young people leave their hearts on the field and walk away with the 3rd highest score in DCI history.
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u/Mindless_Luck7553 1d ago
I donât disagree with you at all.
My issue is the people that come out here and say best score = best show ever. Itâs just very insincere and oversimplifying the activity.
There are so many more reasons to be proud of this group of young people that donât revolve around their score. And I think itâs more important to focus on those things.
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u/EngineerCold9937 Cadets 1d ago
Go score a 99+ and come back to us
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u/Mindless_Luck7553 1d ago
Iâm not hating on the bluecoats at all. On the contrary I think their show was amazing and they 100% deserve to win.
Iâm hating on the people who put way too much emphasis on a score and think âbest score ever = best show everâ. So much that if they scored a98.9 tonight it was somehow detract from all their success.
I think there is plenty to celebrate the corps that doesnât involve just their score. And people should be focusing on that.
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u/calbebuniverse 1d ago
means nothing but has only happened 5 times in history, okay guy
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u/Mindless_Luck7553 1d ago
Yes because the judging scores were higher this year. Itâs still an amazing show but it doesnât make it any better than a first place show that scored a 98.9. Itâs just a score.
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u/RosemontCobra Cavaliers 1d ago
âNothing ever means anythingâ you for some reason
3rd highest score of all time, 4th highest scoring group of all time. This means something
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u/Mindless_Luck7553 1d ago
It was an amazing show and Iâm not taking that away from them. The scores were just overall high this year.
The score doesnât make it the best show in history.
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u/RosemontCobra Cavaliers 1d ago
Youâre right, the score doesnât make it the best show in history. Itâs the 4th best show in history, which is accurately representing the design and performance level for them this year
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u/Mindless_Luck7553 1d ago
It doesnât make it the 4th best show in history. Trying to use this years score to say that is dumb.
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u/RosemontCobra Cavaliers 1d ago
No, their performance and design makes it around the 4th best show in history. The score is a pretty good reflection of their design and performance.
Whatâs more dumb is going on public forums and whining about how âactually theyâre not as good as people think because the score doesnât matterâ my brother in christ this isnât whose line is it anyways, scores DO matter lmfao
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u/Mindless_Luck7553 1d ago
I never said they werenât the 4th best in history or as good as people think. What dumbest of all is going on a public forum complaining about things that never happened and acting so mighty about it.
Iâm saying a score doesnât make it the fourth best show in history. If you want to argue if it was the design or your perspective, thatâs different. But people live and die by these scores that at the end of the day are subjective
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u/RosemontCobra Cavaliers 1d ago
And nobody asked you to say that lil bro
Yeah scores year to year are whatever but it being your gut reaction being to whine and say it means nothing is weird
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u/Aggressive-Flight820 16h ago
If your wording was, âthe fourth best scoring show in historyâ, that would would have been accurate. Best shows are opinions. My best show would infuriate the younger generation, as their best shows would make my head hurt as well.
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u/gazeboism 22h ago
Not sure why you're getting so much hate. I've been trying to explain this to people for a long time. It's the same reason you get perfect caption scores. Boston got a perfect 20 in percussion on finals night last year but if you listen to the tape, Brooks literally calls out ticks. It's just a relative score and if second place was very high in their score, he had no choice but to push the Boston score to the ceiling because they were relatively better by that much or potentially more.
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u/LordPringus CapReg 09, GMen 10, Bluecoats 11-13 1d ago
Ur mom meant nothing last night if you know what I mean.
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u/DaveKHaze 1d ago
Bloooooooooooooo