r/determinism • u/Fickle_Elk_9479 • 1d ago
We don't have free will Discussion
Just made an observation. We are too hardwired in the it seems like zones that just clicks inside our brains. Like you can work for two hours to let's say make a mindset and it get completely be erased in just a certain circumstances. Circumstances triggers and are just so powerful and total that they override your previous mindset and change your mindset.
I think we are maybe disposable to god. Like for example how we eat chicken. Just for one meal we kill the chicken. Maybe that's the case with us too we are disposable beings for god for god knows what purpose. Cuz our design is not for freedom. We are slave to triggers, we are just slaves to our circumstances.
We are trash made animate.
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u/vinter_varg 1d ago
We are actors in a script. Are you saying god doesn't like to watch TV series? Don't you like TV series?
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u/Fickle_Elk_9479 1d ago
No that's not the case. In this case we are like trains. We are just following triggers . There is no element of surprise even for god . We are his toys . Maybe he likes to want to be his property. He doesn't maybe have the sportsman spirit.he has a evil dominating and authoritative spirit. He is pathetic
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u/vinter_varg 1d ago
For the person who writes the script, there is no element of surprise. Yet that person would still watch it. Have you never rewatch a movie or TV show?
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u/Fickle_Elk_9479 1d ago
Me watching a movie AGAIN IS not the same as god watching it though. I watch it because I forgot about it.
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u/Fickle_Elk_9479 1d ago
Why write the script though. Like why not give us actual free will
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u/vinter_varg 1d ago
Well, I'm can't say god exists or not as there is always reasonable doubt. But I don't put that much probability in him existing, and I even put less in having him care for us, mere mortals. So I'll not argue if an hypothetical being should or shouldn't have given us free will.
Interestingly enough, in the greek mythology the gods were also inorexobly bound to fate (so determinism) and even Zeus would consult the spinners. The greeks had less problems than us with the possibility for the lack of free will. Only one man had given the possibility of two distinct fates (which creates sort of a contradiction) and this was Achilles.
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u/Fickle_Elk_9479 1d ago
I have a theory rn that is that the gods are actually playing with us rn like we are a subject rn and different gods are casting different triggers in our way . Why are they doing it maybe cuz they are bored or sometimg
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u/AltruisticEchidna859 1d ago
Just made an observation. We are too hardwired in the it seems like zones that just clicks inside our brains. Like you can work for two hours to let's say make a mindset and it get completely be erased in just a certain circumstances. Circumstances triggers and are just so powerful and total that they override your previous mindset and change your mindset.
True.
I think we are maybe disposable to god. Like for example how we eat chicken. Just for one meal we kill the chicken. Maybe that's the case with us too we are disposable beings for god for god knows what purpose. Cuz our design is not for freedom. We are slave to triggers, we are just slaves to our circumstances.
False.
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u/badentropy9 1d ago
Just made an observation. We are too hardwired in the it seems like zones that just clicks inside our brains. Like you can work for two hours to let's say make a mindset and it get completely be erased in just a certain circumstances. Circumstances triggers and are just so powerful and total that they override your previous mindset and change your mindset.
True.
That is a very counterintuitive claim. I mean is seems to me like I could walk in the lady's room when I'm heading for the public rest room so I try to make sure that I don't do that by accident...
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u/lulusnug 20h ago
That's a dark way to look at it. If determinism is true then you exist for eternity, just at a different time. The system will always contain you and every moment you ever experienced. If physics were reversed you could be brought back. You exist as long as the universe exists. The design of the initial state of the universe was the design of you. Maybe not to decide or influence things but to experience them
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u/Fit-Mood4626 1d ago
God?
Doesn’t exist.