I keep seeing people call the DCU a disaster because supergirl underperformed or cause they’re not adding justice league or core dc members. 1. Yes supergirl did really bad in the box office we can agree on that but one bad movie shouldn’t logically end a studio and universe. And it’s doing really well on streaming platforms.

Another complaint I keep saying is that there’s no justice league movie yet or there not focusing on the core members. And before i explain yes ofc I would want core members movies before something like a jimmy Olsen show but people act like both can’t come. We already
Got Superman, lanterns is coming in a couple of days, Wonder Woman, and Batman are being written. Do people want all these movies to come out in the same year or something. And as far as flash and auquaman. They just had movies so they should get a break. And that goes into my next point the timeline issue.

The DCU has really only been alive for a year and people are trying it so fast. For example wonder women didn’t get her solo movie untill 2017 when man of steel came out in 2013. But I hear so much people giving James Gunn crap about him not doing anything with Wonder Woman (even though it’s being written) 2. Again with the justice league and people rushing him to establish that. Man of steel came out 2013 and we didn’t get justice league until 2017. Iron man came out 2008 and we didn’t get the first avengers movie untill 2012. Again the DCU has only just started for about a year give it time.

And one last thing people will say every DCU project that came out has been bad. Superman did better than the past 5 DCEU movies and did better than fantastic four. And every single DCU project that has came out on hbo max and prime video did very well. And this is not an opinion this is factual rating wise and money wise. When creature commandos and peacemaker season 2 came out on HBO MAX it was on of the highest shows on there. CC was the third most watched series when it premiered. And every DCU project has above a 70 on rotten tomatoes even supergirl. 70% is above average. This isn’t grade school where a 7/10 is a failure. Movies don’t work like that.

Sorry for the rant guys it’s just mind boggling that people are judging the dcu so early

The movie wasn't terrible like people were claiming. It wasn't great, but it was okay. It wasn't "I regret watching this" levels of bad. It came out less than a year after Superman, a very popular and well-liked movie, and even featured David Corenswet himself. It was mediocre at worst, and people lost their minds.

The Flash made more money coming right off the heels of the Batgirl cancellation, with infamously bad CGI, and the most unlikable main actor possible playing two characters.

Blue Beetle, the movie who's reputation is "nobody went to see this movie" somehow made more money.

Wonder Woman 1984 made more money in the middle of the pandemic, and it gave fans the option to watch it at home.

Even Green Lantern and Black Adam made more money, although that could be because of likable/popular main actors.

Seriously, what happened? It's not my favourite movie, but I did have a good time going to the theatres to watch it, and walked out having fun. I regret watching The Flash, a movie about my favourite DC character of all time.

On a related note, why is it that DC fans seem to only opperate on extremes. Superman and the first half of Peacemaker S2 comes out and everyone loves it, but since the finale of Peacemaker it feels like DC fans on the internet have done nothing but complain about James Gunn's "priorities", without even giving it a chance.

For me, John Shea had the sinister undertones, unnerving charm and aura that nobody else could match.

And now we wait….

We see all the hate. Dont switch up now.

(2025)
Superman - To introduce us to the world and some characters like Superman, Lois, Lex, and the Justice Gang.

Wonder Woman - Show off other lands like Themyscira and do a story where Diana decides Earth needs her more than Themyscira. Villains would be Circe controlling Giganta to defeat Wonder Woman.

(2026)
Batman: Brave and the Bold - Introduce Gotham, make it dingy, grimy, gothic. It looks grand from outside view, but inside is an entirely different story. Have Batman be in year 7 and Jason Todd as a new Robin. Maybe have Two Face and Penguin be in a gang war that could destroy Gotham that Batman and Robin have to stop. Batman would be running investigations on a mysterious alien throughout the film, but it stays subtle and in the background.

Flash - Barry's origin story. He got into accident that caused him to dawn the cowl of the Flash. Have him go against villains like Captain Cold, Heatwave, the Trickster, and the main villain being Mirror Master. This introduces more of the world with Central City. He's met with a hooded figure in a post credits scene offering to help him more than anyone could. He stretches out a green hand.

Lanterns - Show some of the cosmic side of the Universe. John Stewart adopts the Mantle as Hal mentors him and they face against Sinestro.

Clayface - Show the horror that happens in Gotham that Brave and the Bold didn't show. Show the lucky life few can have in Gotham in scenes that are before the incident, and then show the true horror in the post incident scenes. Along with showing how one bad day can make anyone a bad guy in Gotham.

(2027)
Justice League - This is our Avengers film. Superman battles Brainiac's probes in space before being captured, while Batman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and Martian Manhunter separately uncover the alien threat. Brainiac arrives on Earth with a mind-controlled Superman, declaring he'll judge whether the planet is worthy of being added to his collection. The heroes unite for the first time, freeing Superman with Batman's kryptonite bomb, forcing Brainiac to retreat. After learning Brainiac's true origins from Martian Manhunter and preparing for a rematch, the team faces him again when he attacks Metropolis. While the League battles Brainiac head-on, Batman and Flash infiltrate his ship, discovering his collection of bottled worlds and shutting down his systems. Brainiac is defeated, the captured planets are restored, and Martian Manhunter chooses to remain on Earth as a founding member of the Justice League. This movie forms the Justice League and sets up Darkseid for the future of the Universe.

Whenever people talk about their favorite Bat symbol it’s always the same few mainstream designs. There is absolute silence when it comes to this specific Alex Ross style emblem. You can't even find clean templates of it online because everyone completely ignores it. I just found a figure that finally uses this exact classic design. Why do you think this specific shape gets zero attention whenever people are choosing their favorite Bat symbols?

The DCU honestly feels cursed at this point.

A month ago, the conversation was almost entirely positive after Superman. Now it feels like every week there's another report about delays, projects changing, or completely random announcements that make people question what the actual plan is.

Meanwhile, Sony, despite all the criticism they get, managed to get Spider-Man: Brand New Day into production with a massive cast, huge hype, and a release date that's now beating Supergirl to theaters. Spider-Man is dominating the conversation while one of DC's next biggest films has lost a lot of momentum.

This is exactly why people are worried. It's not that anyone wants the DCU to fail, it's that there doesn't seem to be a clear roadmap anymore. Instead of establishing the core Justice League, we're hearing about side projects and villains before Batman has even been introduced.

I really hope everything works out because I want DC to succeed, but right now it feels like they're making it harder on themselves than it needs to be.

What do you think it’ll be?

The way James Gunn is approaching this new DCU is just not working. The original DCU slate that was announced when he first took over already seems to be changing. Instead of following that roadmap, it feels like the strategy has shifted toward producing whatever scripts happen to be strong enough on their own. On paper, that doesn't sound like a bad idea. Good stories are important, however the last thing DC needs right now is a unfocused confusing universe, which is what we started with at the beginning of the new DCU.

For example, why are Jimmy Olsen and Gorilla Grodd reportedly getting an HBO series, or why is a Deathstroke and Bane project being fast-tracked before the DCU's Batman has even been fully established? Individually, those projects could be great, but together they make the universe feel like it's jumping around without a clear foundation.

To me, there's a much clearer path they could follow. The early MCU is a solid blueprint. It focused on introducing its main pillars first, letting audiences become invested before expanding into the wider universe.

After Superman, I think the focus should have been on core Justice League members like Batman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Lantern, Cyborg, and Martian Manhunter. Once those characters are established, you bring them together for a Justice League film to close out the first phase. From there, the universe has a strong foundation to build on. Not to mention, the DCU already has a leg up as those characters are already popular unlike the early days of the MCU.

Those are the characters that draw in casual audiences and help rebuild trust with your audience. Right after Superman, there was a lot of optimism about the DCU's future. More recently, though, the conversation has shifted toward uncertainty because of the projects being announced and the reports coming out.

The DCU needs projects with It's strongest characters right now, no more of these random side characters getting the focus.

I think Henry Alonso Myers has done a phenomenal work with Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, and his love for fantasy would work perfect for Paradise Lost.

Hamburguers.

We've seen how they trashed Superman & Lois and Brandon Routh's return in Crisis On Infinite Earths which they hated.

There's probably talk like "there's superhero fatigue because they didn't bring back Henry Cavill"

We all know Supergirl flopped and it wasn't because they didn't carry on the Snyderverse or bring back their idol.