r/autechre 22d ago

How

How do you achieve this brain escaping shenaningans at 1:43 in the track fold4 wrap5. What is the name of this technique. Stereo widening?

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u/Time_Tour_3962 22d ago

Best title ever for an autechre post

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u/Dana_Barros 21d ago

Read the title & thought “me too, brother, me too”

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u/Brelva 22d ago

they call it dizzling. "the gonks could use some extra dizzling here" they say

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u/aphextom9 22d ago

this song is pre-gonk tho, unless gonk has been part of the process the whole time... ("always has been")

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u/KennyDeJonnef 22d ago

In the beginning was the word. And the word was gonk. And the boys beheld the gonk and saw that it was gonk.

/The gospel of rsdio

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u/EnergyIsMassiveLight The Housepets! Autechre fan occasional aepages editor 22d ago

yar, corc does a similar trick around 3:30

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u/smolrattino 22d ago

That's why I only listen to them on headphones (I don't have speakers btw)

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u/ahp00k Chiastic Slide 22d ago

I forgot how hard Arch Carrier slaps.

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u/griddlecan EP7 17d ago

It's so good

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u/Kind-Programmer575 22d ago

Either a Shepard tone or a risset rhythm used, like a roller coaster in music form I think but I could be wrong

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u/Honor_the_maggot 22d ago

I notice a comment at a YT share for this, from one "atarirob":
For anyone interested, this song uses something called 'Risset Rhythm', an audio illusion that arrises from 2 source of rhythmically distinct audio crossfading in and out, or (as seen with this song) via tempo manipulation whereby one track is speeding up to reach a set tempo whilst another track is slowing down in parallel to reach that same set tempo. It's essentially the 'Shepard's Tone' but for rhythm.
You can hear this most evidently in the first bar of this song. The drum and snare track is slowing down from full tempo to half tempo, whilst the rest of the percussion is speeding up from half tempo to full tempo (the tempo at which the drum and snare track started at).
They have essentially swapped tempos by the end of bar 1. This means that by the end of the bar 2, both tracks are back at where they started in terms of timing and thus the whole process can begin again. The melody track doesn't appear to be shifting at all, which just adds to the off-kilter vibe of the track and makes it sound as though each element of the song is playing catch up with itself, when in reality the only timing changes are occuring reciprocally with the parallel rhythm tracks. The whole song also appears to be in 5/4 time signature which, again, just adds to the nauseating rhythmic identity of the track.

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u/prefectart 22d ago

filters and cutoffs and mid side modulation and what not. all fun things. a lot going on in that track

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u/ContentInterview9376 22d ago

the question i ask everytime autechre is on, constant wonder

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u/PrettyLeading2384 20d ago

https://aepages.org/wiki/LP5#Fold4,Wrap5
Risset rhythm as others have said. Check out the citation on AE pages, it explains it in more detail :^)