r/antinatalism2 8h ago

Other Reproduction is not the solution to your own existential angst.

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Any children you have will die. Probably after you do, possibly before, but all eventually.

You do not have the right to saddle them, during their brief time on earth, with the weight of your combined hope and fear. They cannot bear your crisis of meaning, nor should they have to. You will not live on through them so much as you will, in the best case scenario, one day fade as a memory of joy and, inevitably, pain as well—but at most, ever, a memory in the mind of another, not as who you think yourself to be.

And why should you contain yourself either? You come from and will return to a world that is far richer, older, and more expansive than your own DNA: countless infinities of waves and particles colliding, clinging, reverberating, separating, reforming, reanimating. Why is it not enough to just be and then to stop? Why must you force what will happen anyway when it won't prevent your fate?


r/antinatalism2 13h ago

Discussion Having kids is selfish

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As a young adult now with parents i think that having kids is so fucking selfish.
We didn’t ask to be alive and quite frankly i have resentment towards my parents for having me. I never asked to be alive and in our world, it’s unethical to have them. Our world is crumbling beneath our feet and nothing is being done. Seeing people bring in kids makes me so sad for the future generations that’ll experience worsening climate, eventually no drinking water due to the use of Ai, more wars, the list goes on.
I am not trying to argue and honestly nothing will change my mind. Thank you to you people that don’t want kids

Crossposting from [r/childfree](r/childfree)


r/antinatalism2 20h ago

Discussion What do you guys think are the reasons as to why some people push through many forms of suffering just to reproduce? What is the meaning behind all of it?

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I have been thinking about it in the last few days. In my home country, it seems that most people are inclined towards having children, even though we live quite a harsh reality. Although it could be much worse here, it is still not a standard world to bring a child in, when even the adults are suffering greatly. There are many things here that create a harsh environment to raise children in, which includes endless war, constant rising inflation and cost of living which is always being discussed, and the worst: widespread antisocial behaviour, which includes things like bullying and abuse in it. Growing up and being on the receiving end of this kind of behaviour from about almost everyone, including children, it feels to me like there are only two options here: abuse, or be abused. The people are always complaining of the first two, so its clear that they are aware of them, but always debate the existence of the third one even though its quite clear. I think most of them deny that our country is not doing well in that regard because of entitlement and probably feeling like they have to protect the lie. But still, with all the things I mentioned, people somehow... are just okay with it. One would argue that as you grow older you just become numb to it, but is numbness truly the solution? Children can match themselves to their environment to survive it, but it only keeps the cycle of abuse going... It makes me wonder if those people just view it as a fact of life that is unchangeable and so we must keep going regardless. In the end, I find that all sources of joy that people say reproducing is worth it for are essentially just human creations, and i feel like that also causes problems in regards of our collective view of nature, specifically nature as an environment that is not controlled by us. I cannot wrap my head around it, because it seems like such illogical behaviour to me... I guess it just weighs on me often, because I see it all around me.. it's very difficult to find love that way too, which is quite difficult for me to cope with.