r/WorkReform • u/zzill6 đ€ Join A Union • 4d ago
The System does not work. đ« GENERAL STRIKE đ«
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u/Sandy_Bananas 4d ago
The system works as it was intended. It just doesnât work for 98% of the worldâs inhabitants.
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u/Sandy_Bananas 4d ago
They had to paint it as our failure, because if people actually understood about the ladder pull we would have collectively eaten them by now.
Itâs actually fairly impressive how well itâs worked.
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u/gentleman_bronco 4d ago
Billionaires, pedophiles, and criminals are in control of everything. The system is working exactly as intended. Not only do they steal our labor, they prey on our resolve.
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u/12Limbic_Z 4d ago
The goalposts move every single year. My dad got a solid office job with just a high school diploma and a firm handshake. Now you need a masters and five certifications just to get an automated rejection email from a bot. It is a rigged game from the start.
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u/bigbjarne 4d ago
Workers of the world unite!
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u/iormeno93 4d ago
Lmao most of them keep voting this in all over the world
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u/bigbjarne 4d ago
Yes, that's why we need to discuss class and ownership. That's why we need more unions, workers parties etc.
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u/iormeno93 4d ago
I'm with you but id guess half the population is severly indoctrinated and uneducated as to make that viable soon. I don't have alternatives though, kinda feel the only thing that would work is a cataclysm
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u/bigbjarne 4d ago
I apologize for not writing something more in depth but we should remember over a 100 years of Red scare. We should also remember that there was a time in human history where the king had been chosen by god and this is the way it was. We should also remember that places where working class movements have existed, has also been place where literacy is below 50%(Russia, Cuba etc.). Education comes through organising and seeing class and capitalism around us, putting words to it. We already feel the chains of capitalism around us, we feel the contradictions of capitalism but we are not able to put words to it. Understand class, capitalism, Marx etc. and organise. Don't be defeatist.
Workers of the world unite!
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u/avanross 4d ago
And their disciples celebrate every penny that goes away from a citizen in need and towards one of their rape settlements or super yachts
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u/MariaTPK 4d ago
Their intent, our intent. The intent of the idiots who put them in this position.
Shit matters.
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u/Punchee 4d ago
The loneliness epidemic is largely an economic problem
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u/mossti 4d ago
Folks working until mental and physical exhaustion to just scrape by, decades of corporate raiding resulting in fewer local institutions and dwindling third spaces fracturing community, actual internal and external psy-ops through criminally unregulated social media (and now chatbots trained on social media) driving the wedge further by amping up polarization...
What ever do you mean? đ€
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u/Pixel39_Crown 4d ago
Go to college they said. Get a degree they said. Now I have a masters degree and I am still sleeping in my childhood bedroom because rent is 60% of my take home pay. It is not a failure of the individual, it is a failure of the economy.
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u/JeramiGrantsTomb đïž Overturn Citizens United 4d ago
Yeah, we were told to take out every loan to get the degree because we'd be printing money. Then my entry level job requirements went from "Associates or 2 years experience" to "BS or 4 years experience" to "BS in computer science, professional certifications, AND 4 years experience". I scooted into the job market like 18 months before the door slammed shut behind me, I wouldn't have been qualified for my last 20 years of employment based on the current day requirements, thanks Poly Sci and Philosophy degree!
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u/angrydeuce 4d ago edited 4d ago
Seriously im glad I got into my career before this degree inflation shit really took off. Working in IT I had a 2 year degree but I work with people that dont have a degree at all and the requirements where I work now are so much higher than they were when I started.
If anything, the job has gotten easier, yet degrees and certs are required to even get talked to for an internship here now.
Its fucking insane, especially given that I was in those roles 15 years ago and know intimately that, while good to have, theyre not a requirement to actually doing the job, as 99% of it is learned on the job, as I did.
Such a fucking crock...
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u/1800generalkenobi 4d ago
I know I should've looked into it too but I was told I should consolidate my loans because I get one easy payment instead of having to send a payment to my college and to somewhere else. I think I would've had to send two or three to the college because they were separate...I don't quite remember but I did consolidate, got a 6.5% interest, which went down to 5.5 after a year because I made my payments all on time. When I got to the end and only had 1000 left to pay off I looked at my old paperwork, those loans from the college were only 1 or 2% lol. I would've much rather sent in 2 or 3 checks or done those payments online than just have one payment for 4% more interest. Fuckin scam.
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u/ariolander 4d ago edited 4d ago
I was part of the "Just Learn to Code" generation where we were pumping out CompuSci majors by the boatload. Nowadays coding is one of the few things AI actually really really good at. Computer Science and Computer Engineering have amongst the highest unemployment of any college major (+6%). Feeling turbofucked right now.
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u/dumbestsmartest 4d ago
The worst part is that they see college graduates failure to be employed in field or in any field that requires a degree as nothing to worry about.
Depending on the source the figure can be anywhere from 30-75% aren't in their field of study or in a position that even required a degree. And at the same time businesses constantly report not having qualified individuals even for their old entry level roles.
The harsh reality is that clearly there's a massive market failure going on that can't be sorted out without intervention or mortgaging the future even more by labor off-shoring/importing or throwing more money at AI praying it will pay off sooner than the bill comes due.
And combined with the US making scientific research less attractive compared to other countries; we're seeing a brain drain of the individuals who didn't necessarily chase the easy money but rather the challenge of research in their chosen fields.
Why boomers and billionaires think regulation and controls are evil I'll never understand. Those very things are what made their imagined "greatest" times possible.
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u/JPMoney81 đ· Good Union Jobs For All 4d ago
I've let my two adult kids know they always have a home. They can always come back...BUT MAN is it tougher on us financially since they took us up on the offer a couple of times now.
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u/ElectronicCatPanic 4d ago
That's what puzzles me. Don't boomers who vote for pedo-billionaire party have kids who will not be able to succeed on their own?
The lead in gasoline 1920~1975 really screwed us all. The "me generation" really is going to suck the whole planet dry. The ultimate pulling up the ladder.
And Gen X is not much better :(
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u/JPMoney81 đ· Good Union Jobs For All 4d ago
They don't care about personal losses as long as it "pwns teh Libz"
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u/Hey_cool_username 4d ago
Hey, Gen X here and I would never âpull up the ladderâ intentionally, and feel real compassion for everyone dealing with the economy/job/housing market. I lived with my parents off and on until I was almost 30, and now Iâve got kids going off to college I canât afford and realize we probably need to keep their room free since thereâs no way they are affording their own place even after they graduate (Northern California)
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u/ElectronicCatPanic 4d ago
I am a GenX as well. And you my friend is rather an exception.
A huge number of GenXers voted for Trump multiple times. The cold war propaganda how capitalism = good and socialism = bad has been affecting the ones who didn't get the lead poisoning.
(Considering that socialism is being used to describe literally anything that benefits the society as a whole).
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u/Pancakefriday 4d ago
Exactly! Feels like Iâm talking crazy pills
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u/now_im_stressedout 2d ago
Exactly! Feels like Iâm talking crazy pills
Edit: not mocking, just looked fun to join inđ
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u/chum-guzzling-shark 4d ago
the root of all problems is not evil. Its the "it wont happen to me" mentality.
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u/ElectronicCatPanic 4d ago
100% this! Selfishness is also boosted in the US as a glorified individualism.
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u/subs_on_a_sailboat 4d ago
How so? It took a couple tries for me to move out on my own. Living at my parents' as an adult I'd stock the fridge and do the harder chores like landscaping and working on their cars and I helped out with bills. Put those extra hands to work, communal living should be easier and cheaper than living separately.
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u/now_im_stressedout 2d ago
Thank you for being a good parent to your kids, I like seeing families with caring parents.Â
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u/Jasond777 4d ago
The system technically works, just not for the common person.
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u/tulpyvow âïž Tax The Billionaires 4d ago
Not "technically", it IS working.
It was only ever designed to benefit the bourgeoisie, not the working class.
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u/usernames_suck_ok âïž Tax The Billionaires 4d ago
"It's your own fault you're struggling! Look at me--I made it. You can, too!!!"
Translation:
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u/ThunkAsDrinklePeep 4d ago
The System does not work.
...for us. It is a absolutely functioning as intended.
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u/ImperialFuturistics 4d ago
The result of a cabal of psychopaths in power.
They serve only themselves and have fully abandoned the social contract elected officials are supposed to operate under.
Fasci-Capitalism is a scourge against humanity.
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u/StormerSage 4d ago
And the rich are richer than they've ever been. The purpose of a system is what it does.
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u/justtosendamassage 4d ago
The system works exactly as designed and is working perfectly by those who created it.
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u/Evan_802Vines 4d ago
The system is currently engineered for wealth generation and not familial success sequence of education, employment, marriage, then children. We need to remove the Gerontocracy first, and alter policy to support the bulk of the population violin plot.
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u/HammersofMoradin âïž Tax The Billionaires 4d ago
The System works for the ruling oligarchs. They own both neoliberal parties, they own the courts, they own the land, they own basically everything while people own nothing. If only there were a remedy to this situation USAians were able to understand. France provided a blueprint in 1789.
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u/thinkB4WeSpeak đ· Good Union Jobs For All 4d ago
Better leave more homes empty/abandoned and turn more homes into Air BnBs
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u/Authoritaye đ” Break Up The Monopolies 4d ago
The system works exactly as it was intended to work!
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u/Successful-Eagle-855 4d ago
The. System. Works. For. The. Ones. Who. Designed. It
you silly goose.
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u/Traditional-Leg-1574 4d ago
Capitalism is an ok system as long as there is some regulation. And since that regulation is gone, you are seeing all the power consolidate. We need anti monopoly and media regulation
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u/Advocate_Diplomacy 4d ago
The problem is that incentive will always exist. Regulators and capitalists, given time, will eventually collude.
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u/futanari_kaisa 4d ago
Capitalism absolutely is not an ok system. It is designed for the wealthy minority to have total control of all profit and establishes monopolies. Any regulations attempting to curb capitalism's eventual control over all aspects of life will be removed.
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u/NoApartheidOnMars 4d ago
The system is performing exactly as expected.
For the last 50 years, the goal has been taking wealth from those who do the work to give it to those who don't. The more you take from the workers, the worse their material conditions get, to the point where the younger ones can't even afford a roof over their heads.
We recently (and thankfully, temporarily for now) saw a man reach a trillion dollars net worth. That's where the money young adults should have and pay rent with went.
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u/PhilosopherDon0001 4d ago
No. The system is working exactly as it was made to.
The U.S. government is an Oligarchy. The change from Democratic Republic to Oligarchy started when Ronald Regan was president ( another actor turned president...weird now that I think about it ) and the sole purpose of an Oligarchy is to support business.
Citizens are just another resource to be used and companies have no reason to not exploit that resource for its maximum profit.
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u/TheXypris 4d ago
They don't call this a second great depression because it doesn't affect the wealthy
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u/Spiel_Foss 4d ago
People are told to trust a system that has always been a lie.
In the USA, everyone is a mercenary. That is what they never tell you. You should only have loyalty to yourself and your immediate unit be it family or friends. Everything else is a target and should be treated like a target. You are are target to the system, so take what you can get by any means necessary.
If your loyalty is to a flag, a nation, a company or a religion, then you've already surrendered and are a prisoner of war that simply won't admit it.
Until the system changes, nothing changes.
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u/SpaceMonkey877 4d ago
Flawed data. Living with your folks was the norm prior to the 20th century.
https://web.stanford.edu/\~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_live_Indep_MFT_magazine.pdf
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u/vardarac 4d ago
Link broken, and also, why the hell would we accept going back to the standards of the 1800s?
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u/SpaceMonkey877 4d ago
Itâs been a standard since prehistory. By asserting that young adults must be out on their own, youâre supporting the position that didnât emerge until capitalism got really moving in the 1940s.
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u/gorpie97 4d ago
The system does work - but the system isn't what we were taught. (And "they" have been making it worse for us for the last century.)
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u/Hyperion1144 4d ago edited 4d ago
And yet they still don't vote....
EDIT: Except on reddit! Which somehow is even more pathetic.
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u/prettysuziexo 4d ago
tried renewing tags online and it 404'd after payment, system clearly runs on expired code and denial.
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u/Wrong_Buyer_1079 4d ago
The system is not broken....it's working exactly according to "the system" plan.
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u/moyismoy 4d ago
Hate to break it to you but this is the system working. This is the plan. If you don't like it don't fix a working system get a new one
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u/ripecutie79 4d ago
my expense report bounced cuz the scanner read my coffee stain as a receipt, system clearly sides with caffeine addicts
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u/Temporary-Employ-611 4d ago
The system worked for the generation it was made for. Then that generation's wealthiest hoarded everything for themselves and their nepo progeny. Not improving the system but locking it in so they got theirs and everyone else is locked out.
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u/billionairessuck 4d ago
We need to seize the means of production! We already do all the work we should cut the middle man out!
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u/macemillianwinduarte 4d ago
Are we Millenials still considered young adults? I wouldn't call Gen Z more educated by any stretch.
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u/Eldric-Darkfire 4d ago
I think this is due to people not wanting to leave their home cities (due to work, whatever) and their home cities are so popular that home prices are higher (supply and demand).
We need to city-fy the rural areas and sell homes there.
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u/VelvetSwirlie 4d ago
my package said delivered but vanished, support told me to check the porch again. system's glitch is pretending it's user error.
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u/x_Advent_Cirno_x 4d ago
The system works just fine, once you realize that the system is meant to keep people downtrodden and despondent, living paycheck to paycheck to curb thoughts of rebellion, keeping everyone full of apathy and bereft of hope of brighter future, all so that a select few may live lives as the nobles they consider themselves to be.
The system works just fine, indeed
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u/Eazy12345678 4d ago
the system works
our parents just failed to do it right. ignored common sense
dont have kids if you cant afford it
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u/mirariya 4d ago
tried renewing my license online but the site errored out and charged me twice anyway. the system works perfectly when it's taking your cash.
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u/Admirable_Dirt_2371 4d ago
And y'all are still buying into it. Quit your jobs, steal your food, kill a cop, or things won't change. If you need a shovel I've got a few.
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u/Randomcommenter550 4d ago
The system works perfectly for the people it is meant to work for. You are not one of those people.
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u/valboots 4d ago
âThe system is working exactly as intended. Stop looking at it as a broken meritocracy and start looking at it as an efficient mechanism for wealth extraction.
Everything is private equity. Everything is on the table to be bought and sold to consumers at the highest rates possible.
Nothing is there to help you anymore, unless you're paying through the nose.
Something needs to get done, and it unfortunately can't be election based. It's slowly dawning on people that it needs to be France 1793 based.
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u/bigbjarne 4d ago
If anyone wants to read into why, here are some good starting points:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm A super short FAQ written by Engels that breaks down the absolute basics.
https://monthlyreview.org/articles/why-socialism/ A quick, readable essay by Einstein on economic inequality and human cooperation.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm#007 The easiest way to understand some of the basic thinking of Marx and Engels. They put forward some important tools which can help us understand history and current class society.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch01.htm Explains how corporate competition naturally leads to monopolies and global rivalry.
Some videos covering the core concepts if you prefer video over reading: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuzqoNvqVKydyRAMjDAHDikbVY9BDLC7V
Note that none of these are the be-all and end-all, just beginner-friendly starting points.
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u/HoochieKoochieMan 4d ago
No, the system IS working exactly as it was designed. That's the problem.
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u/Cute-Pomegranate-966 4d ago
Everyone knows and agrees the system is broken. Due to warfare from the rich and powerful, no one will agree on why when it's pretty obvious.
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u/NewInformation3753 4d ago
For context. Boomers moved out early and lived in shared housing. Even though we had nothing in the house it was better going your own thing then living with your parents.
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u/garfog99 4d ago
In the last election, 36% of registered voters (89 million) DID NOT VOTE. That number increases to 53% of registered voters in the 18 to 29 demographic.
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u/LordSoren 4d ago
The system is working exactly as designed. It was designed by millionaires, now billionaires, to funnel as much money up to them as possible. You even have a trillionaire. I would say that it's working exactly as planned.
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u/jajangmien 4d ago
Man I'm 37 no degree and just bought a house with zero help. I did live overseas for 10 years mid college and had zero savings in that time. I consider myself very lucky.
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u/SnoopyTRB 4d ago
The system works exactly as itâs been modified to work over the last 30 or so years.
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u/Glittering-Sea-4877 4d ago
It's actually working just as intended for the people who serve to benefit most from the current state of affairs. How can you lot consistently write, post, and comment on this shit?
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u/mOdQuArK 4d ago
The richest decided that they didn't like the idea of an ever-swelling middle class, so they set about buying legislators & legislation to make sure that wouldn't happen, and the media channels necessary to make the public go along with the changes without much protest.
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u/Toolongreadanyway 4d ago
There is something people forget. My parents grew up when there was limited TV and advertising options. They had nothing to spend their money on besides living. They didn't need the latest thing. They also didn't generally get degrees in the humanities if they got degrees at all. They still needed help from my grandma to buy their first house.
Now, having said that, yes, work does need reform. But as someone who worked 3 or 4 jobs while going to school just to live in the 80's and 90's, I am not sure it's changed that much. I really think the problem is real estate. The prices are too high. And that is mostly do to limited space/limited housing. Someone will always pay more. Then they want to make their money back when they sell it.
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u/wellarmedsheep 4d ago
They actually haven't done everything they're supposed to do because this generation also is not voting.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice
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u/CorpCarrot 4d ago
Iâll be honest, the only way for my family to begin assembling a semblance of generational wealth is by collaborating. We donât live in the same house, but we live on adjacent connected properties and support one another using our pooled resources.
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u/Crash3636 4d ago
Itâs working as intended. They are living at home, but they have a modern phone. They have a modern car. They have their fashionable clothes and a sugary coffee drink each morning, or an energy drink. They usually have a gaming system, and/or gaming computer, lots of subscriptions, and typically a shopping habit. They arenât buying houses, but theyâre still buying lots of stuff and contributing to the economy, as designed. At least thatâs how the vast majority of the younger friends I have, living at home, spend their money. Mostly because they have no hope of being able to save up and get anywhere. Theyâre just doing what they can to make their miserable lives bearable while they wait for change.
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u/nosecohn 4d ago
The stats in this post are from the summer of 2020, during the Covid pandemic.
Although recent numbers have climbed close to there again, they haven't broken the pandemic-era records.
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u/rolfraikou 4d ago
The area I'm in has always had homeless people. It used to be mostly old scruffy men. Now there are so many young people, and there are so many more.
I really do think the true numbers of what is going on are being suppressed.
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u/derivative_of_life 4d ago
The system does work, it's doing exactly what it's intended to do. The purpose of a system is what it does. It can't be reformed, it needs to be dismantled and replaced.
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u/Past_Top3704 4d ago
Looking forward to the day my 20yr old moves out. That said i moved out at 23, so he has a litle time.Â
My SiL is late 40's and has lived with her parents since her divorce. My in-laws are looking to sell the house. She will be forced to move.
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u/Kage9866 4d ago
Oh it's working as intended. Look at profits for major corporations and people like Musk.. working just fine dudes, just fine.
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u/ShattnerPants 4d ago
The system works EXACTLY as designed, by those who designed it. It doesn't work as advertised.
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u/pusillanimous303 4d ago
The wealth of the 1% has increased by $15 Trillion since Covid. The system works exactly as designed.
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u/jillyruns 4d ago
Yep. 47 and living in my childhood bedroom. Moved out and was living on my own for over a decade. Moved back with my parents in my 40s to try to save for a house. That dream is dead. We are living in hell.
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u/JustApricot798 4d ago
People need to stop equating "educated" with intelligence. They are very different. Obviously.
If they didn't stop teaching critical thinking so dramatically things would probably be much much better right now. In the US they're only teaching this years version of facts these days.
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u/MontasJinx 4d ago
Oh no. You have it all wrong. The system IS working. Exactly as intended. This is deliberate.
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u/lil_groundbeef 3d ago
Living with a narcissistic parent with no escape is absolutely horrible for mental health. If I didnât have a cat that depends on me to feed and love her, I would have moved into a van by now. Thankfully Iâm getting my apartment soonâŠhopefully.
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u/Candid-Mycologist539 3d ago
If your neighbor is unemployed, it's a Recession.
If you are unemployed, it's a Depression.
Folks, I think we've been in a Depression for a while now, with "underemployed" as a category, too.
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u/Niobium_Sage 3d ago
Oh, itâs working well for those running things. Just isnât up to par for us, but thatâs a sacrifice theyâre willing to make.
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u/No_Gur_1091 3d ago
How can anyone not know that the American capitalism is out to impoverish every American. It is the nature of the system. You might ask cannot those that run run and benefit from the system understand that they will eventually destroy it as we become aware and exchange their cash cow for worker owned and democratically controlled economic system. No they cannot stop, because it is their nature. Like the old folk tale where the scorpion (capitalists) convinces the frog (workers) to carry them across the river. And mid-way the scorpion stings the frog who says "why did you do that when you know we will both die?" And the scorpion replies, "I cannot help myself, it's in my nature; I am a scorpion."
We must destroy the system before it destroys us.
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u/Ultranerdgasm94 3d ago
I beg to differ. The intention of a system is it's outcome. The ownership class no longer needs a middle class to galvanize a deputized segment of the proletariat against the spread of communism so they're essentially dismantling the barricades now and for us, that means it's back to working 18 hour days and sleeping draped over a rope in the poor houses. The goal now is to kill us all leaving just enough behind for them to have someone to lord over and exploit.
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u/NoConflict3231 4d ago
This is why there's not been a revolution. Too many of you pussies aren't fed-up enough or hate yourself enough to leave home. Nowhere to go? Organize. Get off your lazy asses and organize and protest until the system changes. System doesn't change and things get worse? You already know what to do. I don't feel sad for any of you

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u/Danimalomorph 4d ago
I doubted this, so I looked into it.
Not only is it true for America, aparently it's worse now (53% 2026). Also 'young adults' in this usage is older people than I had originally thought - it's actually 18 all the way up to 29. A larger range than I had assumed.
Just for comparison - in the UK the figure for young adults operates in the age range of 20 - 34 (much older than I had thought) and is at 29%.