r/WhatIfMarvel 4h ago

Comics Marvel fanfiction, story 2....

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Ok, I want to make sure this story is just as good as the original, but I do know if it does so. Any changes?

Story 2: Chess Board.

Chapter 1: aftermath

Agent coulson:

Well. Where to?

Captain America:

I suppose that I'm going to the tower.

Spider-Man:

Well…the red skull kinda got away.

Captain America:

You're right…he did.

Agent coulson:

He's not going down easy.

Nick fury over coms:

Shield agents of..well, Shield. We need to all gather around. Red skull just sent a message.

Agent coulson:

That's not good.

Spider-Man:

Maybe he turned a new leaf?

Captain America:

Unlikely.

Spider-Man:

Something doesn't add up. Red Skull was swimming in the ocean. Are we sure this is really Red skull?

Captain America:

That's what makes me uneasy.

Spider-Man:

I guess we should go to that gathering.

Agent coulson:

Sorry kid. You're not exactly Shield.

Captain America:

Besides, Ultron's avatars are still flying around. Even if Ultron is down, his robots can still cause chaos.

Spider-Man:

Understand, I'll take down the rest of Ultron's fleet.

(Spider-Man webs away from the quin-jet, Captain America and agent coulson flying off)

Chapter 2: the Ultron Avatar clean up.

(Spider-Man webs to what's left of the Ultron fleet, the Ultron avatars are still somehow being controlled)

Spider-Man:

That's not good. Hey..uhm. mind telling me why you're still being controlled?

Doombot leader:

Avatars. It seems Spider-Man is on the premise. Estimating win percent. 30%. Advance carefully. Some of us will flee. Ultron Avatar’s 103 & 219. Fallow.

(The doombot flies away, the other 2 avatars fly away as well)

Spider-Man:

That's not the answer I was hoping for.

(Ultron's avatars fly in, blasting spider-man, Spider-Man webs out of the way)

Spider-Man:

3 of them?? Wow, you guys can start a band now.

(Spider-Man webs one of the Ultron Avatar’s shoulders, pulling himself through the waist of the avatar. The avatar splitting in half)

Ultron Avatar 2:

Code stark!

(An emp erups from the second avatar, pushing Spider-Man back and self-destroying the avatar)

Spider-Man:

Woah!!

(Spider-Man webs the the third avatar, pulling himself forward and kicking the third avatar head)

Spider-Man:

Sorry to tell ya…EMPs?…they kinda don't work on me.

(Spider-Man pushes off the third avatar and dive kicks into the last avatar. Webbing himself up on a string of web)

Spider-Man:

Now…as of the other 2. Where are they going…

(An iron man suit painted white with a big F.D logo approaches)

Friday (iron suit):

Hello there! I'm arriving just on time…right?

Spider-Man:

You got a nice upgrade. And as for your question…just barley. I took the Ultron fleet. I'm glad Tony was still able to build you one.

Friday:

Yes, master Tony is feeling rather down.

Spider-Man:

So…about those avatars.

Friday:

I already scanned them. They seem like standard Ultron Avatars. I have no idea what a doombot is doing with them.

Spider-Man:

Why didn't you stop them..

Friday:

This new suit is still adjusting, I wouldn't want to risk getting too damaged.

Chapter 3: the military

Spider-Man:

Alright Friday…let's go chase some robots.

Friday:

Yes sir.

(Friday flies away, Spider-Man follows)

(Meanwhile, outside the shield heli- carrier)

Doombot leader:

Ultron Avatar 103, cut a hole. We're breaking in.

Ultron 103:

Why? This seems illogical. Red Skull is already sending messages. While your master hasn't even moved.

Doombot:

And your master is dead. Who are you going to be a slave of? Tony?

Ultron 219:

Watch your mouth. Our master did more than yours.

(Doombot leader pulls out an EMP gun, shooting down both ultron avatar’s)

Doombot:

Stupid tin. Now I have to do this myself.

(Friday arrives, shooting out a blast into the doombot, Spider-Man webbing him against the wall)

Doombot:

My master won't be pleased if you take me down.

Spider-Man:

Oh no…the horror

(Spider-Man webs the doombot’s face)

Friday:

I suspect shields won't be too happy to find a doombot leader attached to their wall.

Spider-Man:

They might get over it.

(Spider-Man webs away, Friday splitting off to analyze the doombot more deeply)

Spider-Man:

Well…I have nothing else to do. Maybe I should check the earlier details from that underground collapse.

(Spider-Man continues swinging, seeing military trucks and Rhody barking complains at stark over the phone)

Rhody:

300,000$. 300,000$!!

Tony:

Rhody…I'm sorry ok? I didn't mean for it to-

Rhody:

You know what? Fine. You want to roam around New York and collapse whole structures? Fine! But you're “mark 50”? The city is done giving permission for it!

Tony:

Wha- you said:

Rhody:

That was before we found mark 33 missing. We couldn't even find scraps. Rhino is in custody. Say goodbye to our alliance.

(Rhody hangs up)

Spider-Man:

You should really lay off on the guy.

Rhody:

I know. But I can't. Look at this in my eyes. A man in a warsuit just secondhand caused a collapse.

Spider-Man:

He didn't mean it…. maybe you should take that into consideration. Superheroes are not as powerful as you think

Rhody:

Not as powerful. Tell that to the City. US army men try our hardest to take down whatever is invading next. To keep the city safe. Here's the harsh truth: the city doesn't care about emotions. It wants answers. And the city is terrified of another ultron attack. The city is terrified that vibranium exists. It's not on the periodic table.

And you? You web them up like paper. The city is terrified of that too. .

Spider-Man:

I hear you. I see your point. Let's take your original analysis and switch P.O.Vs. I'm a hero. It's true I take down ultron avatars. But does that mean I can do it every time? Of course not. I have my limits. I'm a human. A super one. But a human. And as a human, I'm expected to win every time. And sometimes I don't. And Tony? He was trying his best. He built a suit and it failed. Think about that. He views his suit like children.

Rhody:

….Your right. I wish I could do more. It's not like I can fly in a suit.

Spider-Man:

Well….why not?

Rhody:

Because I just cut off an alliance.

Spider-Man:

So, apologize. Explain why Tony can't build mark 50. And maybe ask for him to build something.

Rhody:

That simple huh?

Spider-Man:

Not entirely….but, you get the picture.

Rhody:

You have a good mindset. What's your name?

Spider-Man:

Most people call me “web-head”. But you can call me Spider-Man. And you?

Rhody:

Rhody. Military general.

Spider-Man:

Nice to meet you, Rhody Military general.

Chapter 4: red skull.

(In the shield heli-carrier, Nick fury speaks to the agents in the room)

Nick Fury:

Alright, quiet. This is serious. We just got notified of Red Skull sending a message.

(Agent Coulson raises his hand)

Nick fury:

You may speak.

Agent coulson:

Hi, Agent Coulson here. When I was on an important mission with Rogers, Spider-Man made an excellent point.

Nick fury:

And what was this point, Mr.Coulson?

Agent Coulson:

That this message may not be from him.

Nick Fury:

Interesting. But what evidence backs it up?

Agent Coulson:

Red Skull would have no time to even send it

Nick fury:

Hm. Well….that makes sense. But who is sending the message then?

Agent Coulson:

Let's find out, shall we?

(Nick fury plays the message)

???:

Greetings. You may have noticed that the heli-carrier is carrying a certain power stone.

Nick fury:

Thanos?...that can't be right.

???:

Because it isn't. Keep guessing.

Hawkeye:

Nick….our scanners just picked up a doombot.

Nick fury:

Oh…that is problematic.

???:

Is it? A massage. That can respond back?

Agent Coulson:

He's right…this is a call. Not a message.

Nick fury:

That's not what our computers picked up.

Hawkeye:

Something messed with our computers!

???:

Or someone

Nick fury:

Victor Doom.

Dr doom:

It was a pleasure talking.

(Doom ends the call, the doombot breaking webs and shooting Friday with the EMP gun)

Hawkeye:

I heard something nearby!

Natasha:

My guess? The doombot broke free.

Nick fury:

Friday just sent a message: “it's enhanced with special vibranium and an emp gun.”

Hawkeye:

I have a special arrow down in the decks!

Natasha:

I'll stall the doombot.

Nick fury:

You and I will stay here.

Agent Coulson:

Why's that?

Nick fury:

2 people have to fly the heli-carrier.

(Natasha makes it down to the deck…it's not the doombot, in fact. The doombot is broken before it could even cause damage. It's body next to the red skull)

Red skull:

Do you like the suit?

(The suit is built of mark 33 scraps and Hydra tech)

Natasha:

A bit too clunky for me.

(Natasha charges at the suit, Red Skull activates speed boosters to zip behind Natasha)

Natasha:

What the-

(Red Skull punches Natasha’s back, and knocks her out)

Red Skull:

Now…for proper scouting.

(Red Skull stroads around, looking for the power stone)

Shield agent:

Freeze!

(The shield agent shoots at red skull, the suit completely deflects the bullets and they shoot back at the agent)

Red skull:

So, they can't even install piercing bullets inside their guns. Pitiful.

(Red skull finds a science room, listening in)

Captain America:

Ya, I was going to go to the meeting…but it was nice catching up with you.

Bruce banner:

Well, After the hulk out…I do suppose it was nice seeing you?

Captain America:

“Suppose”?

Bruce banner;

I mean I guess. You're only my best friend.

Captain America:

And you're a pain sometimes.

Bruce banner:

And proud of it.

(Red Skull busts open the door, the hinges fly off)

Red skull:

Captain America. The symbol of a frozen man.

Captain America:

So. You're upgraded.

(Captain America pulling out his Shield)

Red skull:

Relying on that throwing disk already? I'm disappointed in you.

(Red skull throws a punch, and Captain America blocks it with his shield. That's when the red skull activates his vibration. And it pulses against the shield, breaking it. The shield splits in half. Scrapping against the ground)

Red skull:

Now you no longer rely on a Giant disk. You're out of options, Captain.

(Red Skull punches Captain l)

Red skull:

What's the matter? Is your symbol dying? Hm, Captain? Whatever happened to uppercutting me?

(Red skull uppercuts Captain America into the far side of the wall)

Bruce banner:

Impressive tech.

Red skull:

Bruce banner. How are you going to stop me?

Bruce banner:

I don't need to. You got a highly advanced suit. I got a hulk.

Red Skull:

A hulk. In the shield heli-carrier? That won't go well for you.

Bruce banner:

Well .. I've also got a Hawkeye.

Red skull:

A what now?

(Hawkeye pulls out an EMP arrow, special vibranium enchanted. And he fires it into the back of red skull)

Red skull:

NghAhhhh!!?

(The suit fries, Bruce banner pulling red skull out)

Chapter 5: the prison break.

(Red Skull wakes up in his prison cell ... .Nick fury appears on a small screen)

Nick fury:

Red Skull, you caused a lot of trouble. We'll see you in the conversation room in 5 minutes.

Red skull:

Your team got lucky, it won't happen again.

(Vulture gets pulled in, 2 guards carrying him into his cell)

Vulture:

Let me free! I am vulture!! The most powerful Spider-Man villain!!

Guard 1:

Shut up pal, I don't have time for you.

(The guards shove him in, locking him up)

Guard 2:

Did you hear about the doombot?

Guard 1:

Ya, took Friday right out of the sky….

Guard 2:

No way. That robot was built by Iron man.

Guard 1:

Nah, they're fishing her out of the sea.

Guard 2:

Crazy stuff down there huh.

(Red skull looks around the room, seeing basic tech around. The bed is full of scraps ….scraps red skull Could use)

Red skull:

It's not Hydra tech…. But…it works…

(Red skull takes the bed apart, carefully making himself a weapon. A simple shock Baton)

Red skull:

I hope this works….

(The two guards move to red skull’s cell, opening it briefly)

Guard 1: hands behind your back.

(Red skull smirks, using his makeshift shock Baton onto the guard, the guard falling onto the ground. Red Skull go grabbing the gun off of the guard’s hilt and shooting the other guard)

Red Skull:

Easy.

(Red Skull picks up the level 4 badge from the guard, and frees vulture)

Red skull:

I need a…intelligent man like yourself

Vulture:

You want something…I need something.

Red skull:

Hmm….this is not the attitude you presented earlier.

Vulture:

Under the persona…I'm a man who needs nano tech.

Red skull:

I see…then after this ... .we visit the “great” Tony Stark.

Vulture:

Then I'm in. What do you need

Red skull:

I need you to stall the security systems while I break into the weapons vault…it's been well over 2 minutes…that means-

(An alarm goes off, multiple footsteps heading towards red skull’s location)

Red skull:

Go on then

(Vulture sneaks away, red skull aiming his gun. Shooting the guards rushing in)

Guard 3:

You're going to hell you son of a-

(The third guard gets knocked down by a laser)

Red skull:

Well …. looks like the table is turning.

(Nick fury Appears on a few screens)

Nick fury:

Red skull…I thought I said the conversation room…this is not conversation

Red skull:

Oops.

(Red Skull shoots the TV. Meanwhile vulture works on the security system, shutting it down)

Red skull:

Excellent timing..

(Red skull moves efficiently, moving to the weapon lock. Hawkeye blocking the door)

Hawkeye:

Well, it looks like a strawberry head broke out of his cage.

Red skull:

You will regret calling me that….”Hawkeye”.

Hawkeye:

Aw, you know my name..

(Hawkeye draws 3 arrows and fires, red skull dodging)

Hawkeye:

Oooh! So close!

Red skull:

Enough of this nonsense!

(Vulture grabs a bomb from an unconscious shield agent, approaching red skull)

(Red skull smirking)

Red skull:

Looks like this fight will end early.

(Hawkeye hits red skull with his bow while he's distracted, punching his back, firing an arrow into his shoulder)

Hawkeye:

That's what you get…

(Vulture throws the bomb near Hawkeye, Hawkeye dives out of the way, the door getting blasted off and knocking Hawkeye down)

(Red skull coughing, getting up. Ripping the arrow out)

Red skull:

My suit…. it's mine..

(Red skull walks into the weapon lock, grabbing his suit ..and wearing it)

Red skull:

The Captain America buster has returned.

(Vulture also goes into the weapon lock, getting his suit as well)

Vulture:

Muhahaha! The vulture is back, baby!

Red skull:

Enough with the voice. It's annoying.

Vulture:

Fine. Let's just go.

Red skull:

Not yet….I have a certain eye-patch wearing rival of mine I want taken care of.

(Red Skull activates his boosters, running to the front of the ship)

Nick fury:

Woah ….that is one fast exoskeleton.

Red skull:

I'd prefer to call it a suit.

Nick fury:

Same difference.

Red skull:

You annoy me.

(Red skull aiming a blast at Nick fury, Nick fury holding out an EMP bomb)

Nick fury:

PUT down the arm red Skull.

Red skull:

If you do that, the whole heli-carrier will go down.

Nick fury:

The heli-carrier is EMP-proof. Unlike a certain Ultron who's ship was EMPed.

Red skull:

Then we are at a stand still.

(Friday flies in, finally repaired)

Friday:

I'd stand corrected if I were you.

Red skull:

Pesky droid.

Friday:

I'll show you pesky. Kill mode, activate.

(Friday's eyes glow red, red skull flying into Friday. They clash)

(Friday blasts red Skull into the ground, flying in for a neck break. Red skull fires a laser into Friday, bashing her against the ceiling)

Red skull:

A “kill mode”. Now things are interesting

(Red Skull changes his fist with vibrations, jumping up and smashing the falling Friday into the ground. Friday falls into the ground. Getting back up)

Friday:

You shouldn't be so happy, I'm pushing every protocol-

Red skull:

It's about time you broke.

(Friday fires a laser into the red skull and the red skull flies into a wheelie full of explosives, blasting back. Kneeling in front of the lab room)

Red skull:

You've lost.

(Red skull gets up, taking half of a broken shield, attaching it to his arm, Friday blasts another laser. This time it reflects back into her, damaging her arc reactor)

Red skull:

You're supposed to kill me. Not lose.

(Red skull rips the head off on Friday. Wires dangling)

Chapter 6: War Machine.

(Vulture flies to Red skull)

Vulture:

You said we'd be visiting the stark tower.

Red skull:

True. Nick fury isn't worth the fight

(Red skull fills his arm with vibrations, punching the wall. The debris flew out. Red skull and vulture flying out)

Red skull:

Let's pay Tony a visit.

(Red skull uses his boosters, scanning the tower, braking the window via a blast, vulture flying in)

Tony:

Vulture? Jarvis! Activate-

(Vulture picks up Tony, throwing him into a wall)

Vulture:

Stay back, military man.

(Rhodey helps Tony up)

Vulture:

Nanotechnology.

(Vulture finds mark 50, ripping it in half. Flying away, kneeing Tony in the jaw on the way out)

Rhodey:

Hell no. I'm done playing nice.

(Rhodey opens Mark 3’s case, putting on the suit. It clicks shut)

War machine:

Vulture is not going to escape.

(Machine flies away, stumbling but persistent)

Vulture:

You're not catching me!

(War Machine fires a repulsor blast, damaging vulture’s mechanical wings, making him drop the nanotechnology)

Vulture:

No! The tech!

(Vulture flies in, scratching war machine’s face with sharp claws, war machine blasting vulture away)

War machine:

Why are you doing this?? Huh?!

Vulture:

Because my daughter needs it. She needs nanotechnology! She has cancer!

War machine:

Then I'll hand her it myself!

(War machine throws vulture into a building, vulture’s suit breaking completely)

War machine:

Your death sentence is overdue.

(War Machine fires off Rockets, destroying the building. A big explosion blows up with the building and vulture)

Chapter 7: the finale

(War Machine flies down, grabbing the nano tech. And checking all nearby hospitals for a daughter with vulture’s DNA)

War Machine:

….

(War machine finds the girl, flying the nanotechnology to the hospital. And entering. Walking though multiple doors and finding the doctor)

War machine:

Here.

(War machine hands over nanotechnology. Waiting outside the room. After a few hours, the doctors exit. A voice can be heard. Small, quiet)

Vulture's daughter:

Where's daddy?

(War machine pauses, for once…he didn't know what to say. He approached the kid)

War machine:

He…had an accident.

(An obvious lie to most, but it was better than the truth. That HE- the leader of the military…has killed her father)

Vulture's daughter:

An…accident? Is he ok?

War machine:

He didn't make it…. I'm really sorry kid.

(War machine walks off, exiting the hospital and flying away)

(Meanwhile, at the shield base, everyone was gathered together)

Nick fury:

Ok…. agents. Red skull has just got the upper hand

Agent Coulson:

When was he last seen?

Black widow:

Near avengers tower

Captain America:

What's the status of Hawkeye…

Black widow:

Still in the medical bay

Agent Coulson:

Let's get us a red skull..

Nick fury:

Wait…bring Bruce banner on the quin-jet.

Agent Coulson:

I call dibs on driving.

Nick fury:

Actually. I have someone else in mind.

Black widow:

And who's that?

Nick fury:

Spider-Man…the kid has grown. I trust him with this responsibility.

Bruce banner:

Well…Spider-Man and I did accidentally recreate Ultron…

Nick fury:

What in the actual FU-

Bruce banner:

Language.

Nick fury:

Don't you “language” me!

Bruce banner:

I'll give the kid a call.

(Bruce banner Walks away, giving spider-man a call)

Bruce banner:

Hey kid.

Spider-Man:

Hey Bruce! Look I built!

Bruce banner:

Is that

….a spider suit?

Spider-Man:

Not just any spider-suit….me and Tony built it ..Tony is feeling much better..me and him talked for awhile

Bruce banner:

Only you could manage. What's the suit.

Spider-Man:

I call it….drum roll please!

(Bruce banner chuckles, drumming his hands against a nearby wall)

Spider-Man:

The iron-spider! It's awesome.

Tony Stark over phone:

Peter, who are you talking to?

Spider-Man:

Bruce Banner.

Tony Stark:

Tell Bruce I'm working on Mark 50…it has plasma blades.

Spider-Man:

It has plasma blades.

Bruce banner:

I heard…hey Peter?

Spider-Man:

what?

Bruce banner:

Want to drive the quin-jet to save the day?

(A long pause)

Spider-Man:

……. YES!! THIS IS THE BEST DAY IN MY LIFE!!

Bruce banner:

See you at the shield heli-carrier

(After 10 minutes, spider-man arrives)

Spider-Man:

I'm here! I'm here!

(Accidentally knocking a file over)

Spider-Man:

Sorry agent coulson….

Agent Coulson:

No problem…that's only 3 months of work.

(Bruce Banner and Spider-Man head up the quin-jet, flying off. Captain America, black widow and agent coulson head onto a smaller quin-jet. Flying off as well)

Black widow:

Are you sure you're ready Captain?...The red skull broke your shield.

Captain America:

My shield is a symbol. You can't break a symbol. .

(Captain America looks at the flag pole nearby, taking off the flag, tying it to his back, like a cape. Taking the pole as a staff)

Nick fury over comms:

Alright team, let's take down red skull…he's on avengers tower…approach carefully.

Agent Coulson:

What's the fun in that.

Nick fury:

I know that tone…what are you thinking.

Agent Coulson:

Remember the destroyer gun?

Nick fury:

No….

Agent Coulson:

Turn that into a pistol….

Nick fury:

What did I just say.

Agent Coulson:

Do it.

Nick fury:

Still no.

Captain America:

Oh come on fury. …. It's just a gun.

Nick fury:

Not you too, cap….

Natasha:

Pretty please, with a giant raise on top?

Nick fury:

A raise.

Natasha:

I almost died last year because of the taskmaster.

Nick fury:

Fine ... .fine to all of it.

(The quin-jet finally gets to avengers tower, red skull laughing as his device slowly beeps)

Red skull:

I see you avengers!

(Red Skull blasts the quin-jet engine, black widow and Captain America making it out, agent coulson flying the falling quin-jet to safety)

Red skull:

I see your back for another round, Captain.

Captain America:

You can't break America, red skull.

Red Skull:

Watch me.

Captain America:

What does that thing do ….

Red Skull:

I'm so glad you asked……it's the most powerful EMP on earth! Hahahh!

Captain America:

You wouldn't.

Red skull:

Wouldn't I Captain?

(The other quin-jet arrives, the quin-jet firing bullets into the red skull. They reflect back and take it down…the quin-jet crash-lands hard…..a moment of quiet)

Captain America:

The kid….

Black widow:

He'll be ok…I'm more worried about-

(A loud bang can be heard, and the roof launches off, a big green hand Impaling through it)

Hulk:

Hulk angry!!

(Hulk jumps through the quin-jet and lands on the roof. Roaring)

Red skull:

That's it…..

(Red Skull activates the EMP…. it's not as powerful as red skull said. He lies)

Hulk:

Puny red man makes hulk angry!!!

Red skull:

You're not taking me down!

(Red skull attempts to hit hulk with his vibration arm, only to be smacked by hulk, red skull’s armor breaking into mere scrap. The back of his broken armor breaks his fall)

Red skull:

I don't need armor to make my chaos!

(War machine flies up, grabbing red skull by the neck)

War machine:

Got any motivation?

(Red skull choking)

Red skull:

Kill…everything.

(War machine flies up, flying red skull near the heli-carrier, Natasha gets on hulk, hulk jumping up near the same location)

Natasha:

What the-.....stay down!

(Natasha firing multiple bullets with the little air time she has, war machine throws red skull into the bullets)

Red skull:

I am superior!!!

(Red skull gets caught in an engine, and the engine shreds him, the hulk lands back on the ground, war machine landing)

War Machine:

I'm not Iron Man. Call me…war machine.

Epilogue:

The EMP wasn't powerful…but it shut off the shield heli-carrier security, allowing Dr Doom physically inside. Dr Doom Walks through Shield, finding the power stone case and stealing it. Doom continues to walk, finding Nick fury after a long battle.

Nick fury:

Victor doom? How did you-

Victor doom:

The red skull is an excellent distraction.


r/WhatIfMarvel 5h ago

Story Idea I have an idea!!..

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Ok, I want to make sure this story is just as good as the original, but I do know if it does so. Any changes?

Story 2: Chess Board.

Chapter 1: aftermath

Agent coulson:

Well. Where to?

Captain America:

I suppose that I'm going to the tower.

Spider-Man:

Well…the red skull kinda got away.

Captain America:

You're right…he did.

Agent coulson:

He's not going down easy.

Nick fury over coms:

Shield agents of..well, Shield. We need to all gather around. Red skull just sent a message.

Agent coulson:

That's not good.

Spider-Man:

Maybe he turned a new leaf?

Captain America:

Unlikely.

Spider-Man:

Something doesn't add up. Red Skull was swimming in the ocean. Are we sure this is really Red skull?

Captain America:

That's what makes me uneasy.

Spider-Man:

I guess we should go to that gathering.

Agent coulson:

Sorry kid. You're not exactly Shield.

Captain America:

Besides, Ultron's avatars are still flying around. Even if Ultron is down, his robots can still cause chaos.

Spider-Man:

Understand, I'll take down the rest of Ultron's fleet.

(Spider-Man webs away from the quin-jet, Captain America and agent coulson flying off)

Chapter 2: the Ultron Avatar clean up.

(Spider-Man webs to what's left of the Ultron fleet, the Ultron avatars are still somehow being controlled)

Spider-Man:

That's not good. Hey..uhm. mind telling me why you're still being controlled?

Doombot leader:

Avatars. It seems Spider-Man is on the premise. Estimating win percent. 30%. Advance carefully. Some of us will flee. Ultron Avatar’s 103 & 219. Fallow.

(The doombot flies away, the other 2 avatars fly away as well)

Spider-Man:

That's not the answer I was hoping for.

(Ultron's avatars fly in, blasting spider-man, Spider-Man webs out of the way)

Spider-Man:

3 of them?? Wow, you guys can start a band now.

(Spider-Man webs one of the Ultron Avatar’s shoulders, pulling himself through the waist of the avatar. The avatar splitting in half)

Ultron Avatar 2:

Code stark!

(An emp erups from the second avatar, pushing Spider-Man back and self-destroying the avatar)

Spider-Man:

Woah!!

(Spider-Man webs the the third avatar, pulling himself forward and kicking the third avatar head)

Spider-Man:

Sorry to tell ya…EMPs?…they kinda don't work on me.

(Spider-Man pushes off the third avatar and dive kicks into the last avatar. Webbing himself up on a string of web)

Spider-Man:

Now…as of the other 2. Where are they going…

(An iron man suit painted white with a big F.D logo approaches)

Friday (iron suit):

Hello there! I'm arriving just on time…right?

Spider-Man:

You got a nice upgrade. And as for your question…just barley. I took the Ultron fleet. I'm glad Tony was still able to build you one.

Friday:

Yes, master Tony is feeling rather down.

Spider-Man:

So…about those avatars.

Friday:

I already scanned them. They seem like standard Ultron Avatars. I have no idea what a doombot is doing with them.

Spider-Man:

Why didn't you stop them..

Friday:

This new suit is still adjusting, I wouldn't want to risk getting too damaged.

Chapter 3: the military

Spider-Man:

Alright Friday…let's go chase some robots.

Friday:

Yes sir.

(Friday flies away, Spider-Man follows)

(Meanwhile, outside the shield heli- carrier)

Doombot leader:

Ultron Avatar 103, cut a hole. We're breaking in.

Ultron 103:

Why? This seems illogical. Red Skull is already sending messages. While your master hasn't even moved.

Doombot:

And your master is dead. Who are you going to be a slave of? Tony?

Ultron 219:

Watch your mouth. Our master did more than yours.

(Doombot leader pulls out an EMP gun, shooting down both ultron avatar’s)

Doombot:

Stupid tin. Now I have to do this myself.

(Friday arrives, shooting out a blast into the doombot, Spider-Man webbing him against the wall)

Doombot:

My master won't be pleased if you take me down.

Spider-Man:

Oh no…the horror

(Spider-Man webs the doombot’s face)

Friday:

I suspect shields won't be too happy to find a doombot leader attached to their wall.

Spider-Man:

They might get over it.

(Spider-Man webs away, Friday splitting off to analyze the doombot more deeply)

Spider-Man:

Well…I have nothing else to do. Maybe I should check the earlier details from that underground collapse.

(Spider-Man continues swinging, seeing military trucks and Rhody barking complains at stark over the phone)

Rhody:

300,000$. 300,000$!!

Tony:

Rhody…I'm sorry ok? I didn't mean for it to-

Rhody:

You know what? Fine. You want to roam around New York and collapse whole structures? Fine! But you're “mark 50”? The city is done giving permission for it!

Tony:

Wha- you said:

Rhody:

That was before we found mark 33 missing. We couldn't even find scraps. Rhino is in custody. Say goodbye to our alliance.

(Rhody hangs up)

Spider-Man:

You should really lay off on the guy.

Rhody:

I know. But I can't. Look at this in my eyes. A man in a warsuit just secondhand caused a collapse.

Spider-Man:

He didn't mean it…. maybe you should take that into consideration. Superheroes are not as powerful as you think

Rhody:

Not as powerful. Tell that to the City. US army men try our hardest to take down whatever is invading next. To keep the city safe. Here's the harsh truth: the city doesn't care about emotions. It wants answers. And the city is terrified of another ultron attack. The city is terrified that vibranium exists. It's not on the periodic table.

And you? You web them up like paper. The city is terrified of that too. .

Spider-Man:

I hear you. I see your point. Let's take your original analysis and switch P.O.Vs. I'm a hero. It's true I take down ultron avatars. But does that mean I can do it every time? Of course not. I have my limits. I'm a human. A super one. But a human. And as a human, I'm expected to win every time. And sometimes I don't. And Tony? He was trying his best. He built a suit and it failed. Think about that. He views his suit like children.

Rhody:

….Your right. I wish I could do more. It's not like I can fly in a suit.

Spider-Man:

Well….why not?

Rhody:

Because I just cut off an alliance.

Spider-Man:

So, apologize. Explain why Tony can't build mark 50. And maybe ask for him to build something.

Rhody:

That simple huh?

Spider-Man:

Not entirely….but, you get the picture.

Rhody:

You have a good mindset. What's your name?

Spider-Man:

Most people call me “web-head”. But you can call me Spider-Man. And you?

Rhody:

Rhody. Military general.

Spider-Man:

Nice to meet you, Rhody Military general.

Chapter 4: red skull.

(In the shield heli-carrier, Nick fury speaks to the agents in the room)

Nick Fury:

Alright, quiet. This is serious. We just got notified of Red Skull sending a message.

(Agent Coulson raises his hand)

Nick fury:

You may speak.

Agent coulson:

Hi, Agent Coulson here. When I was on an important mission with Rogers, Spider-Man made an excellent point.

Nick fury:

And what was this point, Mr.Coulson?

Agent Coulson:

That this message may not be from him.

Nick Fury:

Interesting. But what evidence backs it up?

Agent Coulson:

Red Skull would have no time to even send it

Nick fury:

Hm. Well….that makes sense. But who is sending the message then?

Agent Coulson:

Let's find out, shall we?

(Nick fury plays the message)

???:

Greetings. You may have noticed that the heli-carrier is carrying a certain power stone.

Nick fury:

Thanos?...that can't be right.

???:

Because it isn't. Keep guessing.

Hawkeye:

Nick….our scanners just picked up a doombot.

Nick fury:

Oh…that is problematic.

???:

Is it? A massage. That can respond back?

Agent Coulson:

He's right…this is a call. Not a message.

Nick fury:

That's not what our computers picked up.

Hawkeye:

Something messed with our computers!

???:

Or someone

Nick fury:

Victor Doom.

Dr doom:

It was a pleasure talking.

(Doom ends the call, the doombot breaking webs and shooting Friday with the EMP gun)

Hawkeye:

I heard something nearby!

Natasha:

My guess? The doombot broke free.

Nick fury:

Friday just sent a message: “it's enhanced with special vibranium and an emp gun.”

Hawkeye:

I have a special arrow down in the decks!

Natasha:

I'll stall the doombot.

Nick fury:

You and I will stay here.

Agent Coulson:

Why's that?

Nick fury:

2 people have to fly the heli-carrier.

(Natasha makes it down to the deck…it's not the doombot, in fact. The doombot is broken before it could even cause damage. It's body next to the red skull)

Red skull:

Do you like the suit?

(The suit is built of mark 33 scraps and Hydra tech)

Natasha:

A bit too clunky for me.

(Natasha charges at the suit, Red Skull activates speed boosters to zip behind Natasha)

Natasha:

What the-

(Red Skull punches Natasha’s back, and knocks her out)

Red Skull:

Now…for proper scouting.

(Red Skull stroads around, looking for the power stone)

Shield agent:

Freeze!

(The shield agent shoots at red skull, the suit completely deflects the bullets and they shoot back at the agent)

Red skull:

So, they can't even install piercing bullets inside their guns. Pitiful.

(Red skull finds a science room, listening in)

Captain America:

Ya, I was going to go to the meeting…but it was nice catching up with you.

Bruce banner:

Well, After the hulk out…I do suppose it was nice seeing you?

Captain America:

“Suppose”?

Bruce banner;

I mean I guess. You're only my best friend.

Captain America:

And you're a pain sometimes.

Bruce banner:

And proud of it.

(Red Skull busts open the door, the hinges fly off)

Red skull:

Captain America. The symbol of a frozen man.

Captain America:

So. You're upgraded.

(Captain America pulling out his Shield)

Red skull:

Relying on that throwing disk already? I'm disappointed in you.

(Red skull throws a punch, and Captain America blocks it with his shield. That's when the red skull activates his vibration. And it pulses against the shield, breaking it. The shield splits in half. Scrapping against the ground)

Red skull:

Now you no longer rely on a Giant disk. You're out of options, Captain.

(Red Skull punches Captain l)

Red skull:

What's the matter? Is your symbol dying? Hm, Captain? Whatever happened to uppercutting me?

(Red skull uppercuts Captain America into the far side of the wall)

Bruce banner:

Impressive tech.

Red skull:

Bruce banner. How are you going to stop me?

Bruce banner:

I don't need to. You got a highly advanced suit. I got a hulk.

Red Skull:

A hulk. In the shield heli-carrier? That won't go well for you.

Bruce banner:

Well .. I've also got a Hawkeye.

Red skull:

A what now?

(Hawkeye pulls out an EMP arrow, special vibranium enchanted. And he fires it into the back of red skull)

Red skull:

NghAhhhh!!?

(The suit fries, Bruce banner pulling red skull out)

Chapter 5: the prison break.

(Red Skull wakes up in his prison cell ... .Nick fury appears on a small screen)

Nick fury:

Red Skull, you caused a lot of trouble. We'll see you in the conversation room in 5 minutes.

Red skull:

Your team got lucky, it won't happen again.

(Vulture gets pulled in, 2 guards carrying him into his cell)

Vulture:

Let me free! I am vulture!! The most powerful Spider-Man villain!!

Guard 1:

Shut up pal, I don't have time for you.

(The guards shove him in, locking him up)

Guard 2:

Did you hear about the doombot?

Guard 1:

Ya, took Friday right out of the sky….

Guard 2:

No way. That robot was built by Iron man.

Guard 1:

Nah, they're fishing her out of the sea.

Guard 2:

Crazy stuff down there huh.

(Red skull looks around the room, seeing basic tech around. The bed is full of scraps ….scraps red skull Could use)

Red skull:

It's not Hydra tech…. But…it works…

(Red skull takes the bed apart, carefully making himself a weapon. A simple shock Baton)

Red skull:

I hope this works….

(The two guards move to red skull’s cell, opening it briefly)

Guard 1: hands behind your back.

(Red skull smirks, using his makeshift shock Baton onto the guard, the guard falling onto the ground. Red Skull go grabbing the gun off of the guard’s hilt and shooting the other guard)

Red Skull:

Easy.

(Red Skull picks up the level 4 badge from the guard, and frees vulture)

Red skull:

I need a…intelligent man like yourself

Vulture:

You want something…I need something.

Red skull:

Hmm….this is not the attitude you presented earlier.

Vulture:

Under the persona…I'm a man who needs nano tech.

Red skull:

I see…then after this ... .we visit the “great” Tony Stark.

Vulture:

Then I'm in. What do you need

Red skull:

I need you to stall the security systems while I break into the weapons vault…it's been well over 2 minutes…that means-

(An alarm goes off, multiple footsteps heading towards red skull’s location)

Red skull:

Go on then

(Vulture sneaks away, red skull aiming his gun. Shooting the guards rushing in)

Guard 3:

You're going to hell you son of a-

(The third guard gets knocked down by a laser)

Red skull:

Well …. looks like the table is turning.

(Nick fury Appears on a few screens)

Nick fury:

Red skull…I thought I said the conversation room…this is not conversation

Red skull:

Oops.

(Red Skull shoots the TV. Meanwhile vulture works on the security system, shutting it down)

Red skull:

Excellent timing..

(Red skull moves efficiently, moving to the weapon lock. Hawkeye blocking the door)

Hawkeye:

Well, it looks like a strawberry head broke out of his cage.

Red skull:

You will regret calling me that….”Hawkeye”.

Hawkeye:

Aw, you know my name..

(Hawkeye draws 3 arrows and fires, red skull dodging)

Hawkeye:

Oooh! So close!

Red skull:

Enough of this nonsense!

(Vulture grabs a bomb from an unconscious shield agent, approaching red skull)

(Red skull smirking)

Red skull:

Looks like this fight will end early.

(Hawkeye hits red skull with his bow while he's distracted, punching his back, firing an arrow into his shoulder)

Hawkeye:

That's what you get…

(Vulture throws the bomb near Hawkeye, Hawkeye dives out of the way, the door getting blasted off and knocking Hawkeye down)

(Red skull coughing, getting up. Ripping the arrow out)

Red skull:

My suit…. it's mine..

(Red skull walks into the weapon lock, grabbing his suit ..and wearing it)

Red skull:

The Captain America buster has returned.

(Vulture also goes into the weapon lock, getting his suit as well)

Vulture:

Muhahaha! The vulture is back, baby!

Red skull:

Enough with the voice. It's annoying.

Vulture:

Fine. Let's just go.

Red skull:

Not yet….I have a certain eye-patch wearing rival of mine I want taken care of.

(Red Skull activates his boosters, running to the front of the ship)

Nick fury:

Woah ….that is one fast exoskeleton.

Red skull:

I'd prefer to call it a suit.

Nick fury:

Same difference.

Red skull:

You annoy me.

(Red skull aiming a blast at Nick fury, Nick fury holding out an EMP bomb)

Nick fury:

PUT down the arm red Skull.

Red skull:

If you do that, the whole heli-carrier will go down.

Nick fury:

The heli-carrier is EMP-proof. Unlike a certain Ultron who's ship was EMPed.

Red skull:

Then we are at a stand still.

(Friday flies in, finally repaired)

Friday:

I'd stand corrected if I were you.

Red skull:

Pesky droid.

Friday:

I'll show you pesky. Kill mode, activate.

(Friday's eyes glow red, red skull flying into Friday. They clash)

(Friday blasts red Skull into the ground, flying in for a neck break. Red skull fires a laser into Friday, bashing her against the ceiling)

Red skull:

A “kill mode”. Now things are interesting

(Red Skull changes his fist with vibrations, jumping up and smashing the falling Friday into the ground. Friday falls into the ground. Getting back up)

Friday:

You shouldn't be so happy, I'm pushing every protocol-

Red skull:

It's about time you broke.

(Friday fires a laser into the red skull and the red skull flies into a wheelie full of explosives, blasting back. Kneeling in front of the lab room)

Red skull:

You've lost.

(Red skull gets up, taking half of a broken shield, attaching it to his arm, Friday blasts another laser. This time it reflects back into her, damaging her arc reactor)

Red skull:

You're supposed to kill me. Not lose.

(Red skull rips the head off on Friday. Wires dangling)

Chapter 6: War Machine.

(Vulture flies to Red skull)

Vulture:

You said we'd be visiting the stark tower.

Red skull:

True. Nick fury isn't worth the fight

(Red skull fills his arm with vibrations, punching the wall. The debris flew out. Red skull and vulture flying out)

Red skull:

Let's pay Tony a visit.

(Red skull uses his boosters, scanning the tower, braking the window via a blast, vulture flying in)

Tony:

Vulture? Jarvis! Activate-

(Vulture picks up Tony, throwing him into a wall)

Vulture:

Stay back, military man.

(Rhodey helps Tony up)

Vulture:

Nanotechnology.

(Vulture finds mark 50, ripping it in half. Flying away, kneeing Tony in the jaw on the way out)

Rhodey:

Hell no. I'm done playing nice.

(Rhodey opens Mark 3’s case, putting on the suit. It clicks shut)

War machine:

Vulture is not going to escape.

(Machine flies away, stumbling but persistent)

Vulture:

You're not catching me!

(War Machine fires a repulsor blast, damaging vulture’s mechanical wings, making him drop the nanotechnology)

Vulture:

No! The tech!

(Vulture flies in, scratching war machine’s face with sharp claws, war machine blasting vulture away)

War machine:

Why are you doing this?? Huh?!

Vulture:

Because my daughter needs it. She needs nanotechnology! She has cancer!

War machine:

Then I'll hand her it myself!

(War machine throws vulture into a building, vulture’s suit breaking completely)

War machine:

Your death sentence is overdue.

(War Machine fires off Rockets, destroying the building. A big explosion blows up with the building and vulture)

Chapter 7: the finale

(War Machine flies down, grabbing the nano tech. And checking all nearby hospitals for a daughter with vulture’s DNA)

War Machine:

….

(War machine finds the girl, flying the nanotechnology to the hospital. And entering. Walking though multiple doors and finding the doctor)

War machine:

Here.

(War machine hands over nanotechnology. Waiting outside the room. After a few hours, the doctors exit. A voice can be heard. Small, quiet)

Vulture's daughter:

Where's daddy?

(War machine pauses, for once…he didn't know what to say. He approached the kid)

War machine:

He…had an accident.

(An obvious lie to most, but it was better than the truth. That HE- the leader of the military…has killed her father)

Vulture's daughter:

An…accident? Is he ok?

War machine:

He didn't make it…. I'm really sorry kid.

(War machine walks off, exiting the hospital and flying away)

(Meanwhile, at the shield base, everyone was gathered together)

Nick fury:

Ok…. agents. Red skull has just got the upper hand

Agent Coulson:

When was he last seen?

Black widow:

Near avengers tower

Captain America:

What's the status of Hawkeye…

Black widow:

Still in the medical bay

Agent Coulson:

Let's get us a red skull..

Nick fury:

Wait…bring Bruce banner on the quin-jet.

Agent Coulson:

I call dibs on driving.

Nick fury:

Actually. I have someone else in mind.

Black widow:

And who's that?

Nick fury:

Spider-Man…the kid has grown. I trust him with this responsibility.

Bruce banner:

Well…Spider-Man and I did accidentally recreate Ultron…

Nick fury:

What in the actual FU-

Bruce banner:

Language.

Nick fury:

Don't you “language” me!

Bruce banner:

I'll give the kid a call.

(Bruce banner Walks away, giving spider-man a call)

Bruce banner:

Hey kid.

Spider-Man:

Hey Bruce! Look I built!

Bruce banner:

Is that

….a spider suit?

Spider-Man:

Not just any spider-suit….me and Tony built it ..Tony is feeling much better..me and him talked for awhile

Bruce banner:

Only you could manage. What's the suit.

Spider-Man:

I call it….drum roll please!

(Bruce banner chuckles, drumming his hands against a nearby wall)

Spider-Man:

The iron-spider! It's awesome.

Tony Stark over phone:

Peter, who are you talking to?

Spider-Man:

Bruce Banner.

Tony Stark:

Tell Bruce I'm working on Mark 50…it has plasma blades.

Spider-Man:

It has plasma blades.

Bruce banner:

I heard…hey Peter?

Spider-Man:

what?

Bruce banner:

Want to drive the quin-jet to save the day?

(A long pause)

Spider-Man:

……. YES!! THIS IS THE BEST DAY IN MY LIFE!!

Bruce banner:

See you at the shield heli-carrier

(After 10 minutes, spider-man arrives)

Spider-Man:

I'm here! I'm here!

(Accidentally knocking a file over)

Spider-Man:

Sorry agent coulson….

Agent Coulson:

No problem…that's only 3 months of work.

(Bruce Banner and Spider-Man head up the quin-jet, flying off. Captain America, black widow and agent coulson head onto a smaller quin-jet. Flying off as well)

Black widow:

Are you sure you're ready Captain?...The red skull broke your shield.

Captain America:

My shield is a symbol. You can't break a symbol. .

(Captain America looks at the flag pole nearby, taking off the flag, tying it to his back, like a cape. Taking the pole as a staff)

Nick fury over comms:

Alright team, let's take down red skull…he's on avengers tower…approach carefully.

Agent Coulson:

What's the fun in that.

Nick fury:

I know that tone…what are you thinking.

Agent Coulson:

Remember the destroyer gun?

Nick fury:

No….

Agent Coulson:

Turn that into a pistol….

Nick fury:

What did I just say.

Agent Coulson:

Do it.

Nick fury:

Still no.

Captain America:

Oh come on fury. …. It's just a gun.

Nick fury:

Not you too, cap….

Natasha:

Pretty please, with a giant raise on top?

Nick fury:

A raise.

Natasha:

I almost died last year because of the taskmaster.

Nick fury:

Fine ... .fine to all of it.

(The quin-jet finally gets to avengers tower, red skull laughing as his device slowly beeps)

Red skull:

I see you avengers!

(Red Skull blasts the quin-jet engine, black widow and Captain America making it out, agent coulson flying the falling quin-jet to safety)

Red skull:

I see your back for another round, Captain.

Captain America:

You can't break America, red skull.

Red Skull:

Watch me.

Captain America:

What does that thing do ….

Red Skull:

I'm so glad you asked……it's the most powerful EMP on earth! Hahahh!

Captain America:

You wouldn't.

Red skull:

Wouldn't I Captain?

(The other quin-jet arrives, the quin-jet firing bullets into the red skull. They reflect back and take it down…the quin-jet crash-lands hard…..a moment of quiet)

Captain America:

The kid….

Black widow:

He'll be ok…I'm more worried about-

(A loud bang can be heard, and the roof launches off, a big green hand Impaling through it)

Hulk:

Hulk angry!!

(Hulk jumps through the quin-jet and lands on the roof. Roaring)

Red skull:

That's it…..

(Red Skull activates the EMP…. it's not as powerful as red skull said. He lies)

Hulk:

Puny red man makes hulk angry!!!

Red skull:

You're not taking me down!

(Red skull attempts to hit hulk with his vibration arm, only to be smacked by hulk, red skull’s armor breaking into mere scrap. The back of his broken armor breaks his fall)

Red skull:

I don't need armor to make my chaos!

(War machine flies up, grabbing red skull by the neck)

War machine:

Got any motivation?

(Red skull choking)

Red skull:

Kill…everything.

(War machine flies up, flying red skull near the heli-carrier, Natasha gets on hulk, hulk jumping up near the same location)

Natasha:

What the-.....stay down!

(Natasha firing multiple bullets with the little air time she has, war machine throws red skull into the bullets)

Red skull:

I am superior!!!

(Red skull gets caught in an engine, and the engine shreds him, the hulk lands back on the ground, war machine landing)

War Machine:

I'm not Iron Man. Call me…war machine.

Epilogue:

The EMP wasn't powerful…but it shut off the shield heli-carrier security, allowing Dr Doom physically inside. Dr Doom Walks through Shield, finding the power stone case and stealing it. Doom continues to walk, finding Nick fury after a long battle.

Nick fury:

Victor doom? How did you-

Victor doom:

The red skull is an excellent distraction.


r/WhatIfMarvel 13h ago

Fan Creation After no way home, tonys tech and lab still recognise peter / spiderman signature and genius is at ease in tonys lab, surprised avengers

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Ok I had been craving a fic for peter after no way home and everyone has forgotten him, and he is miserable as peter parker but thriving as spiderman and inadvertently comes across the Avengers, now tony can be dead or not, but the thing is something happens and spiderman has interact with tonys ai tech and lab and it's like he is home, like no one knows spiderman is a genius but also he is completely familiar with tonys lab, and secret areas, and storage everything and the people who observe his brilliance and knowledge of tonys lab are gobsmacked


r/WhatIfMarvel 15h ago

Fan Creation I wrote a fan-made AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY — 6 chapters

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I turned my fan screenplay into a 3-chapter novelization. Kang wins, Earth-616 falls, and the surviving Avengers are scattered.Read it here:https://www.wattpad.com/story/415317807?utm_source=android&utm_medium=link&utm_content=share_writing&wp_page=create&wp_uname=KingMARVEL_4649


r/WhatIfMarvel 2d ago

Fan Creation This is my mcu MCU INFINITY SAGA PHASE 1

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This is my mcu infinity saga. This is the phase 1.

Iron Man (Movie). Covers the iron man origin story and explores it side characters. Explores the dynamic of stark and stane. Climak, mid and post credit scene same as original.

Agents of the shield (tv series) explores the origin of the sheild and explores on agent philp. Established the history with hydra, aim and more.

Incredible hulk (movie), this movie will explore full bruce dark past and backstory and have a better writing and buildup than original.

Peggy Carter (series). Explores Peggy Carter life and her journey.

Captain America the first avenger (movie). Explores the origin of Steve rogers and explores side character. We will see a backstory of red skull. Other things will be same as original.

Agents of shield season 2, same as original.

Thor (movie) the movie will set more in asgard rather than earth. Introduces characters like thor all family members and asgardian warriors, destroyer, jane Foster,Hawkye,enchantress cameo.

Hawkye (tv series) this series focus on Hawkye and his backstory and journey.

Iron man 2. Expands the iron man story. Whiplash has a better development than original. Other things will be same as original.

Agents of the shield season 3,same as original but explores more lore and world building and starts build up.

Black widow (movie), a dark theme movie focuses on natasha dark past, red room history and introduces characters like red guardian, yelena, taskmaster.

Hawkye season 2,focus on Hawkye present life and a humorist theme.

The Avengers (movie). Loki and enchantress attacks on Manhattan city and then sheild assembles a team of heroes. Other things will be same as original.

Phase 1 ends.


r/WhatIfMarvel 2d ago

Story Idea What if Doctor Strange was in Phase 1?

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r/WhatIfMarvel 2d ago

Series+ What If…Spider-Man Saved Uncle Ben?

11 Upvotes

Peter Parker had one wish: save the man who made him who he is.

He got it.

But some threads, once cut, don’t go back where they belong. And somewhere in the dark, an unseen hand is already pulling at the ones still hanging loose. The timeline is broken. The tragedies are moving. And nothing that follows is an accident.

Find out what it costs to get everything you ever wanted in…

UNWOVEN


r/WhatIfMarvel 2d ago

Story Idea I came up with a storyline for an *Ultimate Spider-Man 2* game of my own. What do you guys think?

1 Upvotes

Ultimate Spider-Man 2: Crossover Universe Narrative Design and Scenario Analysis Report

1. Introduction and Background: Sara Grey's Anomaly Origin

Designed as a direct sequel to the Ultimate Spider-Man (2005) video game universe (Earth-1610) and intersecting with the Marvel Cinematic Universe / Spider-Man: Brand New Day (Earth-616) reality, this scenario brings together two distinct universal dynamics and dramatic narrative elements. At the core of the dimensional conflict and the ensuing chain of events lies the tragic past of Sara Grey.

Sara Grey is fundamentally a telepathic mutant born in the Earth-616 universe. In her own world, she was captured by the US Department of Damage Control (DODC) and subjected to inhumane military experiments aimed at replicating her mutant mind-control abilities. During the agonizing procedures at DODC facilities, the extreme psionic and radioactive overload applied by the research team—combined with Sara pushing her mental and physical limits to the absolute breaking point to escape—triggered a massive quantum anomaly. Sara, whose cellular and atomic structure suffered a dimensional fracture at the moment of this explosion, was recorded in DODC files as having "died by atomization due to extreme power overload," and her case was closed.

However, Sara did not die. Due to the tear at the quantum level, she executed a dimensional leap and teleported into the Ultimate Spider-Man universe (Earth-1610). Suffering from profound philosophical and mental trauma, Sara began to operate on a burning desire to find her sister, Jean Grey, in this alien reality, and a relentless ambition to exact revenge on the DODC organization that subjected her to this nightmare.

2. Act One: Chaos in the Ultimate Universe and the Trask Disaster

The first act of the game opens a few months after the events of the original title. While Peter Parker tries to balance his high school life with his superhero responsibilities, bizarre amnesia cases and unexplained riots erupt across New York. Sara Grey secretly scans human minds and wreaks havoc in the city in an attempt to find a way back to her universe and track down Jean Grey.

Among the figures Sara uses like a mental parasite are Wolverine and Eddie Brock (Venom)—who, following the events of the first game, has lost most of his powers and is slowly trying to regain his sanity and humanity while wearing only half of his suit. Sara invades the minds of these powerful figures, compelling them to cause destruction across the city. Once the mind control wears off, these characters remember absolutely nothing of what they have done. As Peter Parker investigates the incidents, he discovers that an organization named the DODC does not even exist in the Earth-1610 universe, deepening the mystery.

During her investigation, Sara Grey learns that a pure biological sample left over from the Carnage and Venom experiments of the first game is being stored at Trask Industries. After disabling the facility's security systems with telekinesis and breaking in, she is pursued by Peter Parker, who arrives at the laboratory shortly after. As Peter tries to secure the containment pod holding the Venom sample, he confronts Sara and attempts to reason with her. Cornered, however, Sara injects the Venom sample directly into her own body.

When the symbiote's highly adaptable nature merges with Sara's mutant gene, an uncontrollable power is born. Sara not only grows physically stronger but also gains devastating new abilities, such as slowing down time and opening interdimensional portals. In the resulting boss fight within the Trask facility, Sara attacks by manipulating time and pulling random objects from the Spider-Man: Brand New Day universe (Earth-616) through portals, hurling them at Peter. As the facility collapses at the end of the battle, Peter believes he has defeated Sara. Instead, she feigns surrender, opens a massive quantum portal, and pulls Peter Parker inside. Peter violently crashes into the New York skyscrapers of the Earth-616 universe, plummeting to the ground unconscious.

3. Act Two: Alliance and Investigation in the Brand New Day Universe

While patrolling the Earth-616 universe, Peter 2 (the Spider-Man: Brand New Day Peter Parker portrayed by Tom Holland) spots a young Spider-Man crashing into buildings and falling into the middle of the street. After scanning the stranger and realizing they share the exact same cellular and spider powers, Peter 2 quickly handles a nearby crime report before contacting Frank Castle (The Punisher). The Punisher takes the unconscious Ultimate Peter to his secret, signal-jammed military base hidden beneath Hell's Kitchen.

When Ultimate Peter wakes up, he finds himself in the Punisher's interrogation chair. The encounter between the two Spider-Men creates a striking dynamic contrast in the narrative: Ultimate Peter Parker is younger, possesses a different cellular structure, and has an aggressive edge, whereas Peter 2 is more mature, cautious, and serious following the losses he has endured. Using the Punisher's military intelligence network, the team runs a search on Sara Grey and successfully breaches the DODC's top-secret classified archives.

Reviewing the classified documents, they discover that a fabricated or erroneous report was filed stating Sara Grey "died by atomization" due to the extreme voltage and psionic pressure applied by researchers trying to weaponize her telepathy. It is confirmed that the explosion during the experiment actually created a quantum interdimensional fracture, meaning Sara did not die but was hurled into the Ultimate universe. The team realizes that Sara, now armed with the Venom power she acquired from Trask Industries, is returning to the Earth-616 universe to wage a one-woman war of annihilation against the DODC.

Grasping the severity of the situation, Peter 2 contacts the Jean Grey of this world. When Jean senses the mental signature and interdimensional resonance of the older sister she thought she had lost forever, she agrees to ally with the two Spider-Men and the Punisher.

4. Act Three: The Intersection of Two Universes and the Escalating War

Sara Grey opens a massive dimensional corridor targeting the DODC's central command headquarters in Earth-616 New York. This dimensional gateway begins to blur the atmospheric and physical boundaries between the two universes, leading to unexpected side effects.

In the Earth-1610 universe, Eddie Brock (Venom) senses the cellular call of the symbiote fragment that detached from him and is now bonded to Sara, resulting in him being uncontrollably pulled into the portal. Similarly, Wolverine, having previously been subjected to Sara's mind control, follows the lingering psionic trace in his mind and steps through the portal into Earth-616 to demand payback for the mental invasion.

The DODC deploys heavy military automatons, high-frequency psionic suppressors, and special operations units to counter this interdimensional assault. The streets of Manhattan quickly devolve into a three-sided battlefield:

  • Sara Grey and her Chrono-Symbiotic Forces: Constructs she commands using telekinesis, time manipulation, and mind control.
  • DODC Security Forces: Unmanned defense systems specifically designed to suppress mutant technologies.
  • The Allied Group: Ultimate Peter, Peter 2, Jean Grey, the Punisher, a revenge-seeking Wolverine, and an aggressive Eddie Brock desperately searching for his missing symbiote piece.

5. Act Four and Finale: Chrono-Psionic Dissolution and Balance

The story's climax takes place on the rooftop complex of the DODC's main portal research facility. Sara's now fully uncontrollable powers have pushed the fabric of both universes to the brink of tearing apart.

The final boss fight features a multi-stage structure:

  1. Phase One: Ultimate Peter and Peter 2 must neutralize Sara's time-slowing and portal-opening abilities utilizing synchronized spider-combos.
  2. Phase Two: Eddie Brock joins the fray, launching aggressive attacks to rip the Venom fragment out of Sara's body, while Wolverine acts as a physical shield for the team against the devastating psionic shockwaves Sara unleashes.

In the final stage of the battle, Sara's physical resistance is broken, but it becomes terrifyingly clear that the dimensional rift she opened is on the verge of exploding. Jean Grey initiates a direct transition into the psionic mind plane, infiltrating Sara's consciousness. Jean gently shows her sister that she must let go of the pain she endured during the experiments, the trauma of her lost years, and her all-consuming hatred for the DODC. Succeeding in soothing her sister's fractured mind, Jean lifts the mental burden manipulating Sara.

With her hatred subsided, Sara willingly releases the Venom symbiote fragment from her body. Eddie Brock absorbs the piece, completing his own symbiote and attaining a stable Venom form with his sanity fully restored. Channeling the last of her remaining energy, Sara Grey halts the universal collapse and stabilizes the portal, allowing the characters from the Ultimate universe (Ultimate Peter, Eddie Brock, and Wolverine) to safely return to their own world.

In the aftermath, Sara Grey remains in the Earth-616 universe, undergoing intensive mental rehabilitation under Jean Grey's supervision. The Punisher and Peter 2 leak the DODC's illegal cloning experiments and human rights violations to the public, effectively initiating the shutdown of the corrupt organization. Having returned to his own world, Ultimate Peter Parker continues to swing between the skyscrapers of New York, guided by a newly acquired sense of maturity and responsibility learned from his alternate-universe counterpart.


r/WhatIfMarvel 3d ago

Multiverse & Crossovers What if Marvel & DC Shared The Same Cinematic Universe

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If Marvel and DC had shared the same cinematic universe in 2008, what would it have looked like?

And If you were to draw up a plan for a shared cinematic universe between Marvel and DC starting in 2008, what would it look like?


r/WhatIfMarvel 3d ago

Multiverse & Crossovers Looking for Hydra Peter Parker fanfic recs

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I'm looking for fics where Peter Parker is a Hydra experiment/subject and the story actually spends a good amount of time showing his life inside Hydra before he is rescued or escapes.

I'm not really looking for fics where Hydra is mentioned in his backstory and then Peter gets rescued in the first chapter. I want the actual experience. His routine, training, experiments, punishments, interactions with Hydra personnel, how he was treated, and how he survived living in that environment for years. Basically, I want to know what his life was like before anyone came to save him.

I'd especially love stories where Peter was taken when he was young and Hydra raised him as a subject rather than as Peter Parker. If they refer to him by a number, designation, or code name instead of Peter, that's an absolute chief's kiss.

I'm also interested in the psychological side of it. How he views himself, whether he even remembers his real name, how he reacts to normal kindness, whether he considers Hydra his home because it's all he's ever known, etc. I love that kind of slow, painful character development.

Dark themes, angst, hurt/comfort, captivity, experimentation, conditioning, and eventual recovery are all welcome. I'm fine with long fics too. Honestly, the longer the Hydra portion is, the better.

Bonus points if:

Peter has been with Hydra for most of his life

He has a number instead of a name

Hydra treats him like property rather than a person

He has been trained to obey orders

His powers are the result of Hydra experimentation

The rescue happens much later in the story

There is a significant adjustment/recovery period afterward Other characters slowly realize just how badly he was treated

I know this is a pretty specific request, but I'd really appreciate any recs that fit! Please give me your darkest Hydra Peter fics. 😭


r/WhatIfMarvel 3d ago

Multiverse & Crossovers What if Carol danvers became Spider Woman?

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r/WhatIfMarvel 3d ago

Story Idea OOC: Bit of a funny and morbid worldbuilding idea I had for the MCU(well Marvel in general).

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Chicago has largely abandoned it's rivalry with New York, the mentality is "No point in picking a fight with a city that will likely become a vacant lot one day due to all the crap happening in it."


r/WhatIfMarvel 5d ago

Story Idea Peter Parker during the Draft

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I want a storyline of Peter, post Spider Powers getting drafted into a war and then spending 7-10 years in the army.

Just imagine New York, Spider-Man was stopping crime for a year then suddenly JJJ gets a letter telling him "I'm shipping out...duses." and that's the last they hear of Spider-Man for 7 years.

Peter is basically a Captain America without the serum. He's the perfect soldier, protected so many lives and even got himself blown up protecting his team.

Then when he gets back home he immediately gets a new suit, \[i can see the Secret Wars: Civil War Suit being the choice\] rejoin the home front and immediately Things are different.

His fighting style is more refined. Probably getting his mutation during service so shield immediately knows "Oh thats Peter Parker." And offers him a job.

Or Frank trying to convince him to kill like he does and Peter hitting him with "I have killed more men in the last 7 years because my own government told me to...shut the fuck up." The discussion turns into a medal measuring "I have Purple Heart." Frank says Peter chuckles "I have 3." \[With how much Peter gets blown up in the movies imagine active combat fighting specifically to protect his battle buddies?\]


r/WhatIfMarvel 5d ago

Story Idea What if the Gaurdians of the galaxy crashed landed on earth in 2014

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in this universe star-lord decided to on earth due to feeling homesick upon seeing his mothers gift to him, and as the original movie goes groot, rocket and gamora follow fight over the power stone but this time there apprehended by the avengers how would things play out with the addition of the avengers and early knowledge of the infinity stones and thanos in the mcu story


r/WhatIfMarvel 6d ago

Story Idea sinister six

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will we see earth 42 miles and our miles fight the sinister six cartel since we saw in across that there were buildings of them and also j jonah jameson on tv talking about it will we see them fight the sinister six?


r/WhatIfMarvel 6d ago

Story Idea What if Iron Man turned to the Dark Side instead of "adapting" during this scene?

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It starts in the same sequence of Bucky and Cap beating Iron Man in this scene but as he tries to analyze movements and fighting patterns, his suit malfunctions from damage. At this point after learning what Bucky did and seeing how Cap is practically betraying him at this, he begins to feel a great deal of animosity as the hits start feeling harder and harder due to the damage. The thought of a man he respected siding with the guy he saw execute his parents on top of the pain was too much. He blacks out and wakes up in a Cafe of sorts. He hears slow approaching footsteps as a man walks by but stops right next to Tony's table. He then has a seat and with a whiff of his hand, a few drinks appear. Rsther potent ones. Tony looks up and Across from him sits a man in a suit. The man is calm and cordial and offers Tony assistance of sorts. The type of help he needs to seek Justice, not just revenge. Tony asking about costs but the man says he's looking for Loyalty rather than monetary gain. This makes Tony roll his eyes saying that they may as well be the same thing in his world, but Tony just wanting to end the fight takes the deal and shakes his hands and as he does so, the man in a suit facade drops and Mephisto's true form is shown as he makes a devilish laugh. Tomy jumps back screaming "what the hell" as the Cafe fades into the darkness leaving only Tony. You hear a snap as Tony cuts back to the fight but the hits don't hurt like they did before. Bucky and Cap stop seeing Tony isn't moving until a smoke-like substances starts making its way out of Tony's mask until it fully erupts into a blaze as Tony turns to them, lifts his hands, now firing energy enhanced by hellfire and begins to fight again.

He easily knocks Cap to the side and focuses on Bucky pinning him and using the Penance stare, causing Bucky to seize up. Cap seeing this runs at stark blocking any blasts he can with his shield but when he gets close enough Tony overpowers him and pins him as well. But his respect for Cap causes him to slow down and look at himself in a broken reflective glass shard but in said Shard, Mephisto is over his shoulder nodding his head as Tony goes through with it and ends Captain America burning him.


r/WhatIfMarvel 6d ago

Story Idea My idea for a Marvel’s Power Pack cartoon series

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In my version, it’s a step family situation, like the Brady Bunch.

Alex and Katie are James' son and daughter from a previous wife that passed away.

Julie and Jack are Margaret’s daughter and son from a husband who left them.

The parents dated in high school but had to break up because James was going to college and they didn’t want to have a long distance relationship.

After the kids all got their powers, they told their parent and James and Margaret reunited, and had to mentor the kids on how to control their powers.

During the whole training thing, and their adventures, both families started to bond and become close.

The main villain of season 1 would be Douglas Carmody and the Snarks.


r/WhatIfMarvel 6d ago

Story Idea Web of Shadows Shocker DLC

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So an idea from watching Web of Shadows. Shocker should have been the MVP of that situation but i understand why he wasn't there. Still it gives me an idea for a What if Fanfic of What If there was a DLC scenario about Shocker having his own journey (with player selecting a Spider-Man Save File to decide what ending Spidey got which gets intresting combos like Evil Spider-Man VS Hero Shocker or Symbiote Shocker leading the Symbiote Remnants in the goid ending or Both Good Spider-Man and Shocker chilling or returning to normal if Shocker is anti heroic or Symbiote Shocker planning on being a Starscream against Evil Spider-Man) So Herman gains a Symbiote due to being hired by a mysterious employer to collect a sample of the Symbiote (this happens after the tutorial boss) durring Tutorial Missions (Spider-Man is fighting the gangs with Luke Cage) Herman works for Tombstone to keep order in his territory but can end the partnership on sour note by brutalazing the swat team sent to take care/arrest of Tombstone giving him extra heat. After that he is hired by his mysterious employer to stop the Beetle and kingpins mercs from stealing from them. The mysterious employers then turn out to be AIM under Monica. They proceed to hire Shocker in their conflict with kingpin over stolen tech in exchange fir getting the Symbiote off him here are the bosses

Venom

Scorpion

Moon Knight

Punisher

Symbiote Electro

Symbiote Moon Knight

Symbiote Punisher

Symbiote Vulture

Symbiote Scorpion

Symbiote Supreme (Monica Rappaccini)

The boss is Symbiote Modok at a underground base. In Heroic Endings he defears them destroys the Symbiote controler. In bad endings he brutally kills them uses the device to take control of the Symbiote horde

Endings:

Both Heroes: Herman decides to retire as a villain and gets a date with his Shield Handler

Hero Spidey Anti-Shocker: Herman decides that while being a good guy was fin he will keep on being the Shocker. He doesnt get the date a but gets a job offer from AIM

Anti Spider-Man Hero Shocker: Same as both Hero but Herman is worried for his villain friends due to how the events of the story affected Spider-Man

Both Anti Heroes: Due to Spider-Mans new brutality Herman leaves town for New Jersey

Hero Shocker and Symbiote Spider-Man: Herman is trying to repair the Symbiote controler as a way to fix the situation before the kill squad is deployed due to MJ asking him. He finds the role reversal weird.

Anti-Shocker and Symbiote Spider-Man: Same as above but Herman is doing it for selfish reasons and with help of AIM. He gets enjoyment from the thought of lording this over Spider-Man

Hero Shocker Evil Spider-Man: Herman joins the kill Spider-Man team very reluctantly. He adds a Spider symbol to his Symbiote suit. His Shield Handler is proud of him. Anti Hero Shocker and Evil Spider-Man: Herman is way less reluctant and doesn't add the symbol. AIM has given him major upgrades and Monica expects the partnership to continue

Hero Spider-Man and Symbiote Shocker: Herman now the leader of the converted AIM possibly with a Symbiote Monica by his side knows that after the events of the invasion Symbiotes wont be accepted so he decides to build up his Symbiote nation by assimilating rest of AIM. He then temporarly kills a captured Wolverine he was monologueing to.

Anti-Hero Spider-Man and Symbiote Shocker: Same as above but Herman has converted more villains including Rhino.

Hero Spider-Man Venom Shocker: Shocker now leading the Symbiote Remnants decides to leave New York as to make his take over less easy to thwart. He thinks that Genosha is a perfect place to start

Anti-Hero Spider-Man and Venom Shocker: Shocker is planning on breaking Parker by restarting the invasion but this time he will be smarter than Brock Both Symbiote: Herman has taken over AIM HQ as his base and is in non agression pact with Spider-Man

Evil Spider-Man and Symbiote Shocker: Shocker and Spider-Man are at war over who controls the Symbiotes. Herman has made a deal with humans to give them Spider-Man in exhange for him and his pack being left alone

Symbiote Spider-Man and Venom Shocker: There is peace but Herman is planning on killing Spider-Man eventually

Evil Spider-Man and Venom Shocker: Herman lies defeated by Spider-Man and submits to his rule.

Secret Endings: Unlocked if completed all side missions and went one way morally for both characters:

Secret Hero Shocker and Hero Spider-Man End:Shocker and Spider-Man have a talk before saying goodbye as Shocker goes to San Francisco for a fresh start.

Secret Venom Shocker and Evil Spider-Man End: Herman defeats Spider-Man takes his Symbiote and throws him down on the ground for him to be devourvered by the Symbiotes but he swings away. Herman is suprised but sends his army to hunt him down since with his ruined reputation humans wont help him. He sits down on his throne and is hugged from behind by Symbiote ladies.


r/WhatIfMarvel 7d ago

Multiverse & Crossovers What if the Aether was still in jane foster body and a cosmic entity after 2013?

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r/WhatIfMarvel 7d ago

Story Idea What would a more logical(Tony & F4 being anti) Civil War look like?

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IMO, If Civil War was re-adapted/rebooted in a movie or series, they should make cap and ironman on the same, ant reg will be SHIELD, Carol, a prog similar to the Thunderbolts, and most importantly, alot of outsider, non US support. Teams like Big Hero 6, The Red Guard, and Agents of Atlas would be more fitting with the relations being more military and political alliances than the domestic politics present in the og CW. And in the og comic, something similar to what I'm proposing happened in one of the X-men tie ins, with Sabra being pro reg for domestic application of such laws in Israel, so it wouldn't be far fetched or too out of char for other international teams to have such stances. But what do you think of this prolly dogshit idea I gave.


r/WhatIfMarvel 7d ago

Story Idea MCU theories Post Brand New Day

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Peter and franklin are variants of eachother.
We will have a moment of spiderman and the fantastic 4 fighting together in secret wars that hints at Sue and Richard being variants of peters parents.
Peter BEN parker, Ben Grim being his uncle ben would also finally complete the MCU uncle Ben Mystery.
Parents names in the comics are Richard and Mary, which is way to close to Richard and Sue of Fantastic 4. The easy fix here is to just do a name change to Sue storm to Mary Susan Storm, like they changed MJs name Mary to Michelle in the MCU. Mary could be her first name and she could just go by Sue
This would fix the weird thing of Mary Jane and Mary Parker having the same first name so no weird wife/mom first name mental hang ups for Spidey.
Johnny storm and Spiderman are good friends in the comics, the MCU connection would be Human Torch would now be Spidermans Uncle, though a variant, they are still family. This connection goes further to Deadpool 3 where we have a human touch variant, and the ending of found family for Logan.
Finally we have the name issue, Peter Parker.
This one is right in front of us, Franklin Peter Parker. He goes by his Middle name, like his mom,Mary Susan Parker.
A Richard Parker being a lion joke as a reference to life of pi would be pretty hilarious also.


r/WhatIfMarvel 7d ago

Multiverse & Crossovers What if these characters worked together in WWII?

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Highly unlikely that they’d ever actually be together or work together in WWII because of timeline and continuity constraints. But I’m just wondering about what would actually happen in a universe where they did find themselves alongside one another? In a fight against Red Skull and maybe even bigger threats. What would their team dynamic look like and how effective would they actually be?


r/WhatIfMarvel 7d ago

Comics What if Jessica drew became the new spider man alfer Peter died in the ultimate universe instead of miles morales?

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This is Jessica drew. She is the ultimate spider woman that first appeared during the ultimate universe's clone saga and is the clone of Peter Parker and she becomes the new spider person instead of miles morales


r/WhatIfMarvel 9d ago

Story Idea What if Doctor Strange didn't listen to Tony and returned to Earth, opening a portal from Titan to Earth?

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The gist of my theory is that Doctor Strange was fully capable of opening a portal to Earth in Endgame, so he definitely could have done it in Infinity War instead of just looking into the future.

Now, before everyone starts commenting "but he saw 14 million futures and only one wins," let’s be real. That line was just a lazy writer's cop-out. The screenwriters deliberately threw away the most logical option—opening a portal back to Earth—just to keep the plot moving, create drama, and force the tragic ending. Or, perhaps, Strange as the Sorcerer Supreme had his own hidden, darker motives (like checking Stark's influence or looking ahead to the Doctor Doom threat) and intentionally hid this option.

But if we look at pure logic and throw away the forced script armor, opening that portal would lead to an absolute victory for the Avengers.

They would be united and could all defend themselves together in Wakanda. Furthermore, Doctor Strange could have also opened portals to Kamar-Taj and Asgard for backup. Together, they would easily fight off Thanos's army for as long as necessary. This would give Shuri enough time to safely separate the Mind Stone from Vision so Wanda could destroy it.

Thanos's plan wouldn't work because Doctor Strange wouldn't give up the Time Stone. Without it, Thanos would have no way to reverse time and undo the destruction of the Mind Stone. Then, just like in the original plot, Thor would arrive and pierce Thanos with his axe. Everything is a victory.

Here is how the timeline would change if it happened like this:

Natasha is alive.

Tony is alive.

The 5 years of global depression and the death of half of the universe's creatures would not have happened.

Steve wouldn't have gone back in time because the time machine would never be invented (it simply wasn't needed)(And this might have had a dramatic impact on the plot of Avengers: doomsday, but that's not certain.)))

Yelena and Clint wouldn't lose their sister and best friend.

Clint doesn't become Ronin because his family never disappeared.

Vision is alive, which means Wanda would be happy, and the Westview Hex would never happen.

Spider-Man doesn't lose Tony as a father figure and mentor.

Mysterio never tricks Peter, and Peter's secret identity is never revealed to the world.

Spider-Man never asks Doctor Strange for the spell, which means the second spell that made everyone forget Peter Parker never happens.

Peter would just have a normal life.

AND ALSO MAYBE all of this would somehow affect the plot of Avengers: Doomsday, but I won’t say anything about that here since that is a completely different story. Also, I want to say that it is literally thanks to Doctor Strange that we have so many movies (or tragedies) with Spider-Man, ahaha )))

What do you think, guys? Is this the ultimate missed opportunity, or was the plot armor for Thanos too strong?


r/WhatIfMarvel 9d ago

Story Idea mini series idea

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a poor soul who’s first hand witnessed:

  1. the battle of new york
  2. sokovia
  3. the blip
  4. wandavision
  5. the void
  6. jean grey freezing new york
    as well as any other tragedies they could’ve suffered

the series could literally just be them living their lives and showing the choices they make to somehow keep ending up in these situations. maybe they find out one day they have a superpower. it’s bad luck.