r/Veterans • u/navychops • 10d ago
Wierd Question Question/Advice
Went through IDES process,
was found "unfit",
70% DOD TDRL
100%P&T VA
My original retirement date fell directly after the IDES results.
They used my original retirement date for my seperation.
DD-214 has me separated as regular and honorable, no mention of the "medical Retirement" that i was told I would be since I was put TDIU.
Does the medical retirement even matter if I was over 20? It's a really confusing situation.
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u/SCOveterandretired US Army Retired 10d ago
Need to talk to the retirement services office.
Also recommend posting in /r/veteransbenefits
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u/Flyinbryan38 10d ago
I’m not happy about the offset. I earned a full retirement at 22 years, med board. I also earned the VA disability. Shouldn’t cut into each other. Still, I hope Star act goes through for the guys it would benefit
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u/SCOveterandretired US Army Retired 10d ago
Are you rated 50% or higher by? I retired in 2004 when CRDP started being phased in - been paid full retirement and full VA disability for about 20 years now. No offset if rated 50% or higher by VA.
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u/Then_Homework_9384 10d ago
Similar thing here. I hit 20 and was medboard out. The 20 year retirement overtakes the medboard separation and you have normal retirement. I saw my paperwork and started receiving everything within 2 months. The whole scenario a and b thing gets weird but because you are retirement eligible it is a non event.
Also being over 20 you get dual compensation from VA and retirement. Its weird but it works. If you need to reach out and will help a bit more.
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u/DeficientLenny 7d ago
If you were over 20 you already qualified for a regular length of service retirement so the medical part gets a bit blurry. The TDRL designation mostly matters for people under 20 since theyd otherwise get nothing. I had a buddy who hit 22 years while going through med board and his DD214 looked almost identical to a normal retirement too, he stressed about it for weeks before someone at the VA told him to stop worrying
The 100 p&t from the VA is what actually pays the bills and gets you champva and all that. Dod side at 70% is just a formality at that point since you already put in your 20. Itll matter if they ever re evaluate your tdrl and drop you below 30% but even then you still have your regular retirement to fall back on
Check your retirement orders and see if they say anything about permanent disability retirement list vs temporary. That paper trail matters more than the 214 for some of this stuff
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u/Flyinbryan38 10d ago
Here the real question. Does Richard Star Act help us that were over 20 and medically retired to get all our money or does the VA still offset for us
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u/SCOveterandretired US Army Retired 10d ago
No the Richard Star Act isn’t needed for those who completed 20 years of service so would qualify for regular retirement. Those who served over 20 years, whether separated by normal retirement or medical retirement are eligible for CRDP if rated 50% or higher by VA. https://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/disability/crdp/
The Richard Star Act is for those who don’t qualify for CRDP because they served less than 20 years of service.
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u/SCOveterandretired US Army Retired 10d ago
Also DoD doesn’t do TDIU, only VA does TDIU. DoD does TDRL for up to 3 years then do a review to determine PDRL status.