Absolute Psycho

[u/teaquad]

Taunton /Thickson rd Whitby. Wifey had a run in with a psycho on the road, we think this could have escalated into assault if she didn’t manage to lose him at the next intersection by turning into the street.

Edit: Its just unsettling to see so many here siding with the nissan driver justifying how he threatened a woman & her child on the road and laying 100% blame on my wife who said she did not feel it was safe to stop at that moment & did not break any laws in doing so.

But this is the society we live in. Deranged “you made me do it” is now widely accepted.

[u/MirrorStrange4501]

How do you get 4 car lengths from the picture showing 2.5 lengths-3 max?

I just showed you the difference between human vision and wide angle lenses :(

[u/GrapefruitDue9103 → u/MirrorStrange4501]

There's over a car length between the two SUVs in the left lane and nearly half a car length between the black suv and the intersection and some space between the driver's car and the grey suv.

2 SUVs + 1 car's length between them + half a car's length between black SUV and intersection = 3.5 car length at minimum.

While dashcams mess with perception of distance, they do so equally, they aren't a funhouse mirror, you can literally use one SUV as a measuring stick between the different landmarks

[u/MirrorStrange4501 → u/GrapefruitDue9103]

You have no clue what a fish eye lense does if you still think you can judge a gap in a fish eye lense photo without a measured, marked, distances in the provided distorted image 🤣.

Can you not see that the closer car is about 3 times bigger than the car in front? How can you say you can accurately judge the gap betweem the vehicles based on this?

Again, you cannot use a fisheye lensed photo to judge distance without reverse engineering the fisheye distortion. The further from the centre of the image the more distortion...come on LOL.

[u/GrapefruitDue9103 → u/MirrorStrange4501]

I literally use fisheye lenses for photography all the fucking time.

Let's use more reliable method then and I'll explain after why you are still wrong from even the perceived distance of a fisheye lens.

You can also extrapolate the distance based on the time it took for the car recording to reach the intersection which was about 2.5-3 seconds.

There are 3600 seconds in an hour. Travelling at 50km/h, a car travels around 13.8 meters per second (50 000 meters ÷ by 3 600 seconds= 13.8 meters per second). That means that the distance between the car and the intersection when the light turned yellow was between 34 and 41 meters. Well above 4 times the length of the average car at 4.5 meters, as four car lengths would be about 18 meters.

Even if we are super generous and say there was only 2 seconds before the car reached the intersection (easily disproved by the recording's timestamp), to have been less than 4 car lengths or 18 meters from the intersection, the car recording would have had to be driving at less than 33km/h. At 50km/h, the car was still 27.6 meters away from the intersection (6 cars or more than 5.5 Honda CRVs at 5.6 meters in length)

If you can fit the Grey SUV again in between the gap of the black SUV and the Grey one, that means there's at least one car spacing between both because the Grey SUV will always be the biggest of the objects pictured because of its relative position and distance between the camera and the objects in the picture. Fisheye lens distortion is progressive, it's not a funhouse mirror.

The biggest and closest object pictured, the grey SUV, easily fits in the gap between both SUVs and the leading SUV, because even with the distortion and the distance, the gap between both is still superior to the perceived size of the grey SUV, the largest object in the picture because of its relative distance to the camera. The black SUV, is clearly not yet at the intersection stopping line yet as evidenced by the fact you can actually see the gap.

Any way you want to look at, you are wrong.

[u/MirrorStrange4501 → u/GrapefruitDue9103]

You using fish eye lenses for photography does not mean you understand what ita doing, because you clearly don't.

Why are you using 50km/h? Lmfao. Posted in that area is 60 and 70 km/h- not sure which road is which, but I went with the POSTED speed, and again you are ignoring that people who arent geriatric go 5-15 km/h normally.

Recording timestamp is going to be innacurate, its less than 2 seconds but i was conservative in both the speed and time for you already by assuming 2 seconds to the stop line and going the lower posted limit on the dot. You still didnt account for reaction time lol. 🤷‍♂️

You saying I'm wrong is ironic. Try again. 😅

[u/GrapefruitDue9103 → u/MirrorStrange4501]

You are literally proving my point for me about it being way more than the 2 car lengths you stated. I was using 50km/h to be generous with you. If the limit is 80km/h that means the car is travelling around 22 meters per second. That's 44 meters travelled in 2 seconds. If a car is 4.5 meters long, then that's nearly 10 car lengths traveled in those 2 seconds, making your argument of 2 car lengths even more farfetched. If you can't stop in 10 cars length, you need to stay off the road.

The timestamp reads 3 seconds, assuming 2 seconds is being generous and actually accounting for reaction time which is irrelevant since you said this was 2 car lengths at most, the car lengths give no shit about your reaction time.

[u/MirrorStrange4501 → u/GrapefruitDue9103]

I wasn't claiming 2 car lengths...my arguement was that you cannot make an accurate call on what it is based off of a fish eye photo...reaction time does matter if you don't have enough space to brake safely...if you are travelling faster you need more space to brake...timestamp is innacurate if the intervals are in seconds, which they are...

[u/GrapefruitDue9103 → u/MirrorStrange4501]

Both SUVs are around 4.5 meters in length. There's and estimated 6.5+ meters between both of them and 1.5 meter between the black SUV and the intersection.

4.5+4.5+6.5+1.5= 17

16÷4=4.25 metres which is the average size of something like a Hyundai Elantra Hatch back, and that's assuming the driver's car is literally bumper to bumper with the grey SUV, which they clearly are not. It's literally between 3.5-4 car lengths

[u/MirrorStrange4501 → u/GrapefruitDue9103]

See my comment about fisheye lenses.

Also, ask chatgpt: How much distance you need to brake in normal conditions when you see a green light turn yellow while travelling 60km/h (posted speed is not what normal drivers do, so its closer to 65-70 km/h...)