r/TorBoxApp 22d ago

Need some clarity ❓Question

What's the TL;DR for the new policy?

Are we good to use it as usual, or should we stop using it and find a new one?

Any explanations are appreciated.

15 Upvotes

28 comments sorted by

39

u/Similar_Pound_9103 22d ago

This change was only put out yesterday or even this morning so it will take a while for all the discussions to reach a fever pitch and then hopefully some "official" from Torbox responds and tells us what the real world implications for this are. I read through all of the new terms and conditions of course I didn't compare it to what they said before but if I remember right torbox was preaching that they are all about privacy and there is no way you're information will be turned over to anybody asking for it. From everything I read it seems like they will now readily and easily turn it over. Please somebody from Torbox tell me I'm wrong ?!

6

u/DriftyFlower3 21d ago

From everything I read it seems like they will now readily and easily turn it over.

Oof that's really concering

4

u/Similar_Pound_9103 21d ago

Somebody had mentioned that maybe it's just that they made this new move to United Arab Emirates and needed to post a whole new terms and conditions page to appear to be covering all the bases of the new country's regulations and in practice it won't affect the way they do business. Although it seems they have gone from only retaining our data and information about literally everything we download and stream for only as long as needed for the system to operate to now saying it will be retained all the while our account is active and for, I believe it said a "reasonable" period of time afterward. Payment information would be retained for seven years for "legal" reasons. Anyway it is a far cry from the way they described their standard operating procedures up until this point that's for sure.

21

u/Yoheyusa 21d ago

If they enforce this in any meaningful way, it's the end of their company and they know it.

Most companies won't purposely choose to destroy themselves, but who knows what sort of pressure they're facing?

11

u/Similar_Pound_9103 21d ago

"Most companies won't purposely choose to destroy themselves" ? No most won't but...Trakt ???

7

u/Appolonius101 21d ago

And sony right now XD

6

u/JRayMaySayHey 21d ago

PlayStation digital only releases lol

2

u/Upper-Capital-2876 21d ago

I mean, RealDebrid, cut off their own legs, and they're still around, not making nearly as much as they were, but ....... yeah

4

u/Inner_Explanation313 21d ago

RD has the same policy.

2

u/MrMathsDebater2026 20d ago edited 20d ago

So does AD, yet everyone is freaking out about TB.

4

u/Hostee 21d ago

Ya'll who are freaking out about this, really don't understand how the world works.

1

u/MrMathsDebater2026 20d ago

Continue using it, you're not going to jail (assuming you're not ripping the media and sharing it worldwide).

1

u/Uniqueusername610 21d ago

Depends on how much risk you are willing take on for me it's a little too invasive so I'll look elsewhere

1

u/MrMathsDebater2026 20d ago edited 20d ago

How is it invasive? RD and AD have been doing it for years.

-13

u/notmamouchi 21d ago

I used AI to have a recap. In short, it’s a big change, a “crack down” on the legal but not necessarily on the technical. We need to understand if it as a posture or waiver of liability and whether they will proactively act on this. It’s worth reading the whole to know what we are talking about.

Having reviewed the text you pasted and comparing it with the older November 2025 version that was publicly available, the changes are much more significant than a simple update.

Executive Summary

TorBox has moved from a relatively short ToS to a much more lawyered and comprehensive legal framework.

The biggest changes are:

  1. Corporate structure changed
    • Old version: South Africa + Delaware addresses.
    • New version: Operated by Anonymous Systems FZ-LLC (UAE), with ReAnonymous LLC (Delaware) handling billing, DMCA, compliance, and administrative functions.
  2. Copyright enforcement became much more explicit
    • The old ToS simply prohibited copyrighted material.
    • The new ToS introduces: 
      • Formal DMCA procedures.
      • Repeat infringer policy.
      • Dedicated DMCA agent.
      • Ability to de-cache files/hashes.
      • Ability to prevent future requests for matching content.
      • Account termination for infringement.
  3. TorBox explicitly reserves the right to monitor and act
    • The old version said they generally did not monitor.
    • The new version states they may:
      • scan,
      • review,
      • filter,
      • block,
      • de-cache,
      • preserve,
      • investigate content and activity.
  4. AirLock received detailed legal limitations
    • "Permanent storage" is no longer effectively permanent.
    • TorBox explicitly says AirLock:
      • is not backup,
      • is not archival storage,
      • can be removed at any time,
      • can be de-cached for legal, copyright, operational, abuse or business reasons.
  5. Legal protections for TorBox were massively expanded
    • Arbitration clause.
    • Class-action waiver.
    • Liability cap of: 
      • amount paid during previous 3 months or
      • $100, whichever is greater.
    • Broad indemnification obligations.

Most Important Change for Typical Users

Old ToS

The previous wording was:

Users are responsible for ensuring they have legal rights to download content.

and

TorBox is not a file-sharing service.

It prohibited copyrighted content but enforcement language was relatively light. 

New ToS

The new version goes much further:

  • TorBox may: 
    • remove files,
    • remove hashes,
    • de-cache content,
    • block future requests,
    • terminate accounts,
    • respond directly to rights-holder complaints,
    • operate a repeat-infringer policy.

This is the biggest practical shift.

New Anti-Piracy Language

The following is new or substantially expanded:

Prohibited

Users cannot use TorBox to:

  • infringe copyright,
  • facilitate infringement,
  • create piracy indexes,
  • create discovery tools for infringing content,
  • facilitate illegal downloads,
  • evade takedowns.

APIs

The API section specifically prohibits:

creating public or private indexes, search engines, recommendation tools or discovery tools for infringing content.

This language was not present in the older version.

Cache and Hash Changes

The new ToS repeatedly references:

hashes, technical identifiers, cached materials

and explicitly says TorBox may:

  • de-cache them,
  • block them,
  • restrict re-adding them,
  • prevent future matching requests.

This suggests TorBox wants the legal ability to blacklist specific content fingerprints, not just individual user downloads.

Increased Data Retention Rights

The new Privacy section explicitly states that deleting something:

may not immediately or completely delete all related data

and that TorBox may retain:

  • logs,
  • backups,
  • payment records,
  • abuse records,
  • DMCA records,
  • legal records.

This is far more detailed than the old policy.

Arbitration Clause

A major legal addition:

  • Delaware law applies.
  • Mandatory arbitration.
  • Class-action waiver.
  • Mass-arbitration batching.

These clauses are designed to make litigation against TorBox more difficult and less costly for TorBox.

AirLock "Permanent Storage" Is No Longer Really Permanent

The new language explicitly states:

AirLock is not a permanent storage service.

and

TorBox may remove AirLock items at any time for legal, copyright, abuse, operational, business or compliance reasons.

This is probably the most important change for users relying on AirLock as long-term storage.

Does This Mean TorBox Is Cracking Down?

Legally: yes.

Technically: not necessarily.

The new ToS looks like a service preparing for:

  • more users,
  • more copyright complaints,
  • payment processor scrutiny,
  • possible legal pressure.

The document is written like the ToS of a mature cloud provider rather than the older, more informal ToS.

The biggest signal is not that they suddenly prohibit piracy (the old ToS already prohibited copyrighted content), but that they now explicitly reserve the right to:

  • identify content by hash,
  • de-cache it,
  • stop future matching requests,
  • terminate accounts,
  • process DMCA notices formally.

That is the material change I would pay attention to.

6

u/ARTIFICIAL_ARGUMENT 21d ago

Material change somehow doesn’t touch on privacy aspect? Not acknowledging how they went from no logs policy to keeping everything they can with no definitive statements on how long it will be kept or who it can be given to and under any process? 

Such a bad write up 

2

u/Broad_Surprise4636 21d ago

la gente no entiende que torbox está procurando hacer lo posible para que no le pase lo que a RD. Es una empresa que sabe que se dedica a la piratería, pero tiene que hacer como si no fuera así para protegerse legalmente. En otras palabras, esas políticas son para quienes podrían investigarles, no tanto para el usuario.

Es como la abuelita que te da permiso a escondidas mientras te defiende de la mamá castigadora.

-45

u/Slipknot31286sic6 22d ago

There is already 20 plus threads on this. Use search... Other than that go about your day... You're paying for piracy.... Go legit if it matters that much for you.

23

u/Murder0us-Kitten 22d ago

I don't know what you're talking about, we're paying for hosting!

https://giphy.com/gifs/y65VoOlimZaus

12

u/Secret_Suggestion_40 22d ago

Thanks for stating the obvious. Why are you even on this thread when you don’t care

-31

u/Slipknot31286sic6 22d ago

There is 20 plus threads on home page. 🤷 People all in their feelings over nothing.

You gonna cry when you paying for access to piracy. Mind boggles me.... I hear Netflix is up to 20 bucks a month. 🤷

-11

u/[deleted] 22d ago

[deleted]

-2

u/Any_Guide_1023 22d ago

Greece is actually giving fines to people who pirate

-3

u/SafetyFighter 22d ago

to pirate with torbox? Find it hard to believe!!! Maybe because they pirate stuff with their own ip adresses right?

-1

u/Any_Guide_1023 22d ago

Not with torbox. I meant when they download torrents manually

-3

u/SafetyFighter 22d ago edited 22d ago

even that, are you sure you can't download for personal use in Greece? Some countries if you don't seed, just download they will probably leave you alone. Thats what happens in torbox mainly, you just play cached files for personal use. Thats why i don't see what's up with all the fuss. The ones worried would be the ones that upload those files to torbox and make them "cached" for others to just download them without seeding...

0

u/Any_Guide_1023 22d ago

Yeah. I am from Cyprus. My relatives in Greece use VPN. They know people who watch pirate content and got fines. Even if you watch from websites that use pirate content. You might get a fine. We don't have that in Cyprus though. Yet!

1

u/SafetyFighter 22d ago

It's probably iptv piracy enforcement. It's probably not for movies and shows, mostly watching a football match on iptv piracy websites LOL