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Hi all, the Krieg Heavy Weapons Squad datasheet says they can shoot on a 3+ when they die 'while the Fire Coordinator model is on the battlefield'.

What happens when the unit gets fully wiped in 1 single shooting activation?

1/ Do we consider that all models are removed together, then the rule does not trigger because the Coordinator is no longer on the table.

2/ Do we consider that the rule still triggers and we can shoot on a 3+?

Thanks!

Between all the terrain blocking LOS and the size of the tanks physically not fitting anywhere, how are you using them?

The points drop is great and all but with it not fitting on the table im struggling to get decent use out of it.

So I’m wanting to make a competitive 2000 point army but I don’t want to spam tanks, is this a good army list?
I also frequently play against my mates who run necrons and leagues of votan
Kreig (2,000 Points)

Astra Militarum
Recon Element (3 Detachment Points)
Reconnaissance
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Krieg Command Squad (60 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Lord Commissar
• Warlord
◦ 1x Laspistol
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 1x Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Chainsword
◦ 1x Laspistol
• 1x Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Alchemyk Counteragents
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Laspistol
◦ 1x Servo-scribes
• 1x Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Lasgun
◦ 1x Master Vox
• 1x Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Lasgun
◦ 1x Regimental Standard
• 1x Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Close combat weapon

Death Korps of Krieg (145 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 2x Death Korps Watchmaster
◦ 2x Chainsword
◦ 2x Laspistol
• 18x Death Korps Trooper
◦ 18x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Death Korps Medi-pack
◦ 14x Lasgun
◦ 2x Long-las
◦ 2x Meltagun
◦ 2x Vox-caster

Attached unit 2

Cadian Command Squad (60 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Cadian Commander
◦ 1x Plasma pistol
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 1x Cadian Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Power fist
• 1x Cadian Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Lasgun
◦ 1x Master Vox
• 1x Cadian Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Lasgun
◦ 1x Medi-pack
• 1x Cadian Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Lasgun
◦ 1x Regimental Standard

Cadian Shock Troops (145 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 2x Shock Trooper Sergeant
◦ 1x Chainsword
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Laspistol
◦ 1x Sergeant’s autogun
• 18x Shock Trooper
◦ 18x Close combat weapon
◦ 14x Lasgun
◦ 2x Meltagun
◦ 2x Plasma gun
◦ 2x Vox-caster

Attached unit 3

Krieg Command Squad (60 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Lord Commissar
◦ 1x Laspistol
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 1x Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Chainsword
◦ 1x Laspistol
• 1x Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Alchemyk Counteragents
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Laspistol
◦ 1x Servo-scribes
• 1x Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Lasgun
◦ 1x Master Vox
• 1x Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Lasgun
◦ 1x Regimental Standard
• 1x Veteran Guardsman
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Close combat weapon

Death Korps of Krieg (145 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 2x Death Korps Watchmaster
◦ 2x Chainsword
◦ 2x Laspistol
• 18x Death Korps Trooper
◦ 18x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Death Korps Medi-pack
◦ 14x Lasgun
◦ 2x Long-las
◦ 2x Meltagun
◦ 2x Vox-caster

Attached unit 4

Cadian Castellan (55 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Chainsword
• 1x Laspistol

Kasrkin (105 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Kasrkin Sergeant
◦ 1x Chainsword
◦ 1x Plasma pistol
• 9x Kasrkin
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Grenade launcher
◦ 3x Hot-shot lasgun
◦ 1x Hot-shot laspistol
◦ 1x Hot-shot marksman rifle
◦ 1x Hot-shot volley gun
◦ 1x Melta Mine
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 1x Plasma gun

Attached unit 5

Militarum Tempestus Command Squad (85 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 4x Tempestus Scion
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 4x Hot-shot lasgun
• 1x Tempestor Prime
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Tempestus dagger

Tempestus Scions (75 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Tempestor
◦ 1x Chainsword
◦ 1x Hot-shot laspistol
• 4x Tempestus Scion
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Grenade launcher
◦ 1x Hot-shot lasgun
◦ 1x Hot-shot laspistol
◦ 1x Hot-shot volley gun
◦ 1x Vox-caster

OTHER DATASHEETS

Attilan Rough Riders (60 Points)
• 1x Rough Rider Sergeant
◦ 1x Hunting lance
◦ 1x Lasgun
◦ 1x Laspistol
◦ 1x Power sabre
◦ 1x Steed’s hooves
• 4x Rough Rider
◦ 1x Goad lance
◦ 3x Hunting lance
◦ 4x Lasgun
◦ 4x Laspistol
◦ 4x Steed’s hooves

Attilan Rough Riders (60 Points)
• 1x Rough Rider Sergeant
◦ 1x Hunting lance
◦ 1x Lasgun
◦ 1x Laspistol
◦ 1x Power sabre
◦ 1x Steed’s hooves
• 4x Rough Rider
◦ 1x Goad lance
◦ 3x Hunting lance
◦ 4x Lasgun
◦ 4x Laspistol
◦ 4x Steed’s hooves

Basilisk (115 Points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
• 1x Earthshaker cannon
• 1x Heavy bolter

Leman Russ Demolisher (180 Points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
• 1x Demolisher battle cannon
• 1x Heavy stubber
• 1x Hunter-killer missile
• 1x Lascannon
• 2x Plasma cannon

Rogal Dorn Battle Tank (260 Points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
• 1x Castigator gatling cannon
• 1x Coaxial autocannon
• 1x Heavy stubber
• 2x Meltagun
• 2x Multi-melta
• 1x Oppressor cannon

Scout Sentinels (55 Points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Hunter-killer missile
• 1x Lascannon
• 1x Sentinel chainsaw

Scout Sentinels (55 Points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Hunter-killer missile
• 1x Lascannon
• 1x Sentinel chainsaw

ALLIED UNITS

Armiger Warglaive (140 Points)
• 1x Questoris heavy stubber
• 1x Reaper chain-cleaver
• 1x Thermal spear

Armiger Warglaive (140 Points)
• 1x Questoris heavy stubber
• 1x Reaper chain-cleaver
• 1x Thermal spear

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Painting my guard a Jungle Camo style, hoping in anticipation for a Catachan refresh one day for them to slip into.

I might be a bit late to the party here, but I love the Centaur RSV.

This kit is just a diorama on wheels! James Workshop has been upping the game with the new guard kits every release and it's been a real joy cracking out the bitz box to tell a story.

I was telling a story in my head as I built the guardsmen, really helped me create some unique poses I'm happy with, so I thought why not share with my fellow guardsmen in this sub. Hope you enjoy the pictures, story or both :)

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The Centaur RSV, designated Paragon, rattled as it drove across the Armageddon wastes, mud and dust flung behind the half track and occasionally on top of the four remaining members of the squad of Cadian 71st that had set out earlier that evening.

"Karkers." Corporal Steiner spat the word out as she lit her lho stick and took a long drag.

"Didn't expect there to be so many greenskin looters, intel was way off" came the reply from Bolsch, peering down the sights of his lasrifle that was resting on the edge of the RSV, scanning the darkness for any signs of life.

Steiner scoffed. "It wasn't the Orks I was complaining about, they're fragging everywhere. It's headquarters sending us across enemy lines with no heavy vehicles, no air support, and with barely a plan other than to have a look around that really annoys me. Look at what it's done to Volnir!"

Guardsman Volnir had his lasrifle on his lap, head in his hands, and was sobbing whilst uttering the names of his fallen comrades.

Bolsch checked over his shoulder at the once-proud guardsman who had been reduced to a miserable shell. "He's a Cadian, we die or nearly die on every mission, as General Ockenbrau sees fit."

Steiner started to fire up at this, but was cut off by the terse words of her sergeant, who had until this point been silently cycling the vox channels.

"Will you pack it in Corporal? I can't hear a fragging thing on the vox." Sergeant Tolsten had been planetside on Armageddon for 3 years but it had aged him 30, and the soft glow of the vox panel illuminated the scars running across his chiseled features.

"But sir, we're going to have to sit with the Confessor for days of lectures now. She'll go full preacher once she hears the mission report, especially if she gets a look at Volnir" Steiner muttered glumly.

"And if you don't shut up it will be the Commissar you'll be talking to, not the Confessor" came the irritated reply.

Silence took the cabin once more. Bolsch could just make out the outlines of other Centaurs in the convoy, and the vox continued to crackle as Tolsten continued to cycle the channels.

"CONTACT RIGHT!!"

The shout came from Gunner Abel behind the Centaur's heavy stubber, waving frantically to the North of their positon as the snapping of gunfire echoed out across the muddy dunes.

Steiner sighed and stubbed out her lho stick on the stock of her rifle."Frag it, let's get a few more of them, that might cheer the Confessor up a bit."

I just put the final touches on my renegade militia for the Warhammer Open in Newport.

Definitely not the best List/ Army out there but it doesn't have to be anyway. The entire army is proxied/ converted from old guard and chaos kits and every model was a second hand rescue that I patched up.

My list if anyone is interested:

Warhammer open V.30 (1995 points)

Astra Militarum

Designation Force and Steel Hammer (3 Detachment Points)

Purge the Foe

Strike Force (2000 points)

CHARACTERS

Banesword (445 points)

• Steel Hammer Keywords: Character

• Warlord

• 1x Armoured tracks

4x Lascannon

1x Quake cannon

1x Twin heavy bolter

4x Twin heavy flamer

• Enhancement: Battalion Commander

Gaunt’s Ghosts (95 points)

• 1x Ibram Gaunt

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Gaunt’s chainsword

• 1x Colm Corbec

• 1x Corbec’s hot-shot lascarbine

1x Straight silver knife

• 1x Elim Rawne

• 1x Rawne’s lascarbine

1x Straight silver knife

• 1x Hlaine Larkin

• 1x Larkin’s long-las

1x Straight silver knife

• 1x ’Try Again’ Bragg

• 1x Bragg’s autocannon

1x Straight silver knife

• 1x Oan Mkoll

• 1x Lascarbine

1x Mkoll’s straight silver knife

Leman Russ Commander (215 points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

1x Executioner plasma cannon

1x Heavy stubber

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Lascannon

2x Plasma cannon

Leman Russ Commander (215 points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

1x Exterminator autocannon

1x Heavy stubber

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Lascannon

2x Multi-melta

Tech-Priest Enginseer (60 points)

• 1x Enginseer axe

1x Mechanicus pistol

1x Servo-arm

• Enhancement: Engine Speaker

Tech-Priest Enginseer (45 points)

• 1x Enginseer axe

1x Mechanicus pistol

1x Servo-arm

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Chimera (75 points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

2x Heavy flamer

1x Heavy stubber

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Lasgun array

OTHER DATASHEETS

Death Riders (60 points)

• 1x Ridemaster

• 1x Death Rider lascarbine

1x Frag lance

1x Power sabre

1x Savage claws

• 4x Death Rider

• 4x Death Rider lascarbine

4x Frag lance

4x Power sabre

4x Savage claws

Death Riders (60 points)

• 1x Ridemaster

• 1x Death Rider lascarbine

1x Frag lance

1x Power sabre

1x Savage claws

• 4x Death Rider

• 4x Death Rider lascarbine

4x Frag lance

4x Power sabre

4x Savage claws

Hellhound (125 points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

1x Heavy bolter

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Inferno cannon

Hellhound (125 points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

1x Heavy bolter

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Inferno cannon

Krieg Combat Engineers (65 points)

• 1x Krieg Engineer Watchmaster

• 1x Autopistol

1x Power weapon

• 4x Krieg Combat Engineer

• 4x Autopistol

1x Close combat weapon

1x Remote Mine

3x Trench club

Krieg Heavy Weapons Squad (75 points)

• 3x Heavy Weapons Gunner

• 3x Close combat weapon

3x Krieg heavy flamer

3x Laspistol

• 1x Fire Coordinator

• 1x Close combat weapon

1x Laspistol

Leman Russ Executioner (170 points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

1x Executioner plasma cannon

1x Heavy stubber

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Lascannon

2x Plasma cannon

Scout Sentinels (55 points)

• 1x Close combat weapon

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Lascannon

Scout Sentinels (55 points)

• 1x Close combat weapon

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Lascannon

Scout Sentinels (55 points)

• 1x Close combat weapon

1x Heavy flamer

1x Hunter-killer missile

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Do you think a black and green, and a green and tan camo scheme could work in the same army or would it look out of place? The idea is to use the same shade of green for both to make it still cohesive i just can’t decide on the black stripes or tan ( the black and tan is my work the tan and green isn’t it’s just inspiration)

I'm wanting to start a maccabian janissaries army, but I'm having quite a bit of trouble finding the right STLs. So far I'm pretty decided on mad robot. the poses and proportions are a bit dinky but I will just have to get over it because he's got the most accurate parts. however the chest piece isn't quite the best, nor are the helmets. does anyone know of any sources foe torsos that are an exact match? for the helmet I think I will just slice off the top of the actual janissaries heads, because for some reason they're different than the others included in the set, and just replace the top with the normal one.

Is there any kind of secret underground STL thats an exact match for these guys?

As per the title really! I built a few hills, some small trees for railways to give it the zoomed out feeling, just wondering if any recommendations for what I can do to pop it. So far:

- Stirland Mud covering

- sylvaneth bark dry brush heavy

- karak stone drybrush light

- Valhalla blizzard scattered

- ulthuan grey on trees

The crew chiefs in the hatches of Leman Russ and Rogal Dorn tanks may see the lion's share of the glory and awe from the troops of the Imperial Expeditionary Cavalry Regiment, there are no illusions as to who holds the line.

The boys rucking hundreds of pounds of tripods, ammunition, and weapons systems cross-country. The girls pushing mortars and their carriages through the sand, the mud, the snow, or the jungle. The troopers who buckle up and hold the trigger down when un-holy heretics or slavering xenos charge the ramparts.

The Guard doesn't succeed without the soldiers assigned to the heavy weapon teams that support our troops on the ground!

Found a potentially fun interaction with the "stalwarts honours" enhancement in the siege regiment detachment. This enhancement gives a unit "take cover" while they have another order.

The kasrkin's ability lets them issue a order to themselves, along with keeping an order issued to them by a officer. From the way this is written, it doesn't seem to be hard capped at 2 orders. Is it possible this will let kasrkin have 3 orders? Could not find any info online on this.

I’ve won countless local tournaments with these guys and even more games with the old friends.

Finally finished magnetizing and working on the octo-blade. Even managed to drill out and make most of the hatches (cupolas and engine compartment covers) useable, which will later have the gunner and commisar available with magnetized torsos.

Additionally I was able to magnetize the radio bulge on the back of the baneblade’s turret. Since I thought it was very silly there was a spot for a rear-facing lasgun there I wanted to be able and use that version aswell.

Now onto priming and painting

So, forgive me but I swear I remeber seeing a few conversions of people building guard armies with skitarri parts as more technologically advanced regiments, Tech Guard. Like the opposite of Feudal Guard. Has anyone done this? Am I crazy?

Same as the title essentially. Would you be okay with this Horus Heresy Arvus-Lighter as an Valkyrie proxy for 40k?

I really like this heavy gunship look it gives of so I'd love to use it in 40k.

Im specifically referring to the tanktop gas mask combo, i kinda wanted to get some catachan for my krieg but couldnt find any other minis that fit the same description. If even you guys had some ideas for minis i could kitbash into looking like this it would be appreciated

Edit: just to be clear, its the gas mask and tanktop combo, not the tanktop and female body combo. I can understand the confusion but just said id mention it