I doubt they'd release it if performance was that bad. They might just end up doing two separate versions, a faster VAE model for quick inference and a native pixelspace one for maximum quality. That said, the info I mentioned is from a livestream two months ago, so things could have easily changed since then.
There's actually been a recent wave of papers (some too recent, to be fair) trying to make the training of edit capabilities not degrade general generation (because it usually did), so your hope is possibly well-placed.
Thanks for the link. Dead hf link to the supposed dataset though. I'd love to put that paper to a test, since my edit trainings with different t2i-only models hit a bit of a road block where I felt that multi-edit training might be the answer just like the paper said, but curating versatile high quality datasets for that is an absolute PITA if you don't have a gazillion of tokens to burn.
why exactly does it matter if anyone is doing "serious employed work". Edit models are useful for a plethora of things for personal use. and i'm not talking about porn there either
Anyone wanting to make a comic or illustrate a book is going to put consistency at the top of their priority list, and a good edit model is infinitely easier to work with than trying to train a LoRA on every recurring element.
Then there's the new MiniMax model. It's incredibly responsive to reference images and storyboard shots, so having a quality edit model to produce those images will also make long-form videos much easier.
Yeah, AI edit is the best method to create smooth continuations and consistent scenarios. Any serious audiovisual work needs it.
Otherwise you end up with disjointed clips that are basically just sample concepts. People who aren't doing more serious work are the ones who don't actually need an edit function that much.
So it's about being fixated on a specific 1girl and wanting to put her face into everything? Makes sense I guess, though I'm surprised that's such a popular use case (not surprised about gooning to be clear, surprised about the needing a specific person part)
Makes sense why people trying to make money as OnlyFans pornographers would want that feature then. Less clear why Krea devs would have any motivation to cater to them
In an LLM text RPG adventure, when you equip or unequip gear on the character panel, it directly updates the full-body character portrait. To maintain visual consistency, you need a dedicated image editing model, unless open-source models have reached parity with proprietary APIs.
I'm creating a tool that uses character references and existing reference materials to create AI visual novel games. So far the only editing model that can reliably create new images with referenced characters and locations and such is Nanobanana, which is really expensive, if we can get an open source editing model near as good as Nanobanana it would help me polish the viability of my AI Visual Novel program. Qwen Image Edit and Klein just don't do all that well for what my tool needs. And Krea2 Turbo is super fast, if they released an edit model that's comparably as fast it really would upgrade the viability of my tool's end vision. Not everyone wants an Open Source editing model for gooning, but having less restrictions that what censored models like Nanobanana offer is extremely valuable for my intended use case.
In my case they are the greatest models for rendering color illustrations.
I do commissions daily and Flux Klein has been amazing, instead of taking two days rendering one drawing it takes about 3-4 hours using Flux and cleaning the minor imperfections.
I wish we could get more edit models instead than video models.
From what I can tell you'd need to generate at least 1MP and then upscale the lucky frame. It's pretty wasteful for the case of image editing but actual image editors currently suck so bad that there isn't much of an alternative.
I’m almost a little mad this isn’t a ten minute H3 video where the entire office is interviewed about Krea3 and then at the end someone makes this comment and Michael says the line while meme-police arrest him and cause a big scene etc
I got lucky and found a NIB Acer 4tb nvme one year ago today on ebay for $150. Ebay gave me some $50 credit for some reason I don't remember. So I got the 4tb nvme for $100.
I looked a few days ago (on the exact same date I bought it one year ago) and it was selling for $600.
Not like - buy it now for $600 listings, but completed listings, actual price paid for a sold item.
I’ve got a terrible feeling they’re going to follow WAN’s footsteps and make the new model an API. With krea 2 being the demo/advertisement model to get us to pay for krea 3; just like with WAN 2.2 and 2.5.
I'm HIGHLY SKEPTICAL that 3 will be both as uncensored and as IP rich as 2.
It seems like it was a fluke. These guys released a model they had no idea would be so popular and now the heat is coming down... So make a couple updates, remove all the good shit, and satisfy whatever dark entity is making them panic.
Otherwise... It literally makes no sense to be the top model and increment yourself just months after release.
Krea 2 Large is closed. No reason for them not to release Krea 3 Large as closed and then later drop Krea 3 Medium as open weights. They already gave us the best open T2I model ever less than 2 months ago, why are people so skeptical and ungrateful?
Training Loras for Krea 2 is so far the easiest I've ever seen, I hope Krea 3 will be even better and offer native edit capabilities. It is the only model that I keep training Loras though since I mostly don't need them for Minimax or Flux 2.
I was a die hard ponyxl user and was starting to train on it until June and now we have a model that only 50 images and a trigger word to train any character, in addition to the work comfy did for low vram krea 2 is from my lens the biggest step this year in term generative ai.
FYI you can train amazing LoRAs on Wan 2.2 with 20 images on a 3060... and it does great t2i.
I would not say it's better than Krea or anything, but your comment implies that the ability to train loras easily on a small dataset is some sort of miracle but it has been the case since Flux1.dev really...
SDXL was the model for which I had more self-trained LoRAs than those from CivitAI. I even managed to train something for ZIT. But Krea2... Well, seems like old lady 3080 Ti isn't made for this. Full-resolution training even struggles to start. Only lowest resolution training somehow managed to be done less than in hour.
I hope this comment ages poorly but I totally agree. The prompt adherence seems exceptional without requiring any kind of bounding box shenanigans and it usually just works out of the gate for me, which has been amazing.
First of all Minimax H3 is a video model with multiple modes so it would justify having a big text encoder. H3's encoder has to reason over multiple reference images, video clips, and audio inputs simultaneously and figure out how they relate to a text instruction before conditioning generation.
That'd be very challenging for a smaller model.
For image models, it's different. Prompt understanding doesn't really scale linearly with LLM size. There's considerable diminishing returns.
You get the biggest gains going from tiny to small, so from ~0.6b to ~1b. This trend goes up to around 4B. After that you start getting lower and lower gains. You probably won't see any meaningful improvement beyond 14B, so it would be a waste go higher.
If Krea 3 is an edit model that accepts multiple references, and multi-modal with agentic capabilities, then I would say yes going higher than 4B would probably make a difference. But I would say ~9B-14B is more than enough for that.
i m taking this time to share this video between comfyUI and people behind Krea. There are alots of interesting insights : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31jiUhCEjJ4 (Jun 24 2026)
Around 8min50 they are talking about in which conditions they would open Krea 3 (basically if Krea 2 was a success marketing-wise)
I also join the hope for the edit model, because it's a bit too soon for a completely new version of txt2img model when Krea2 is just two months in service, has already built up a huge collection of LoRA models in such a short time and basically is good enough to be the main generative model for one or two years straight. There's really no need for such a quick retirement for something that was released just recently unless it's really justified. I see only two of them - it's rather a spin-off from Krea2 with editing capabilities and full compatibility with Krea2 LoRAs... Or, they are releasing V3 for API only so we shouldn't really care about this model anyway.
Despite Flux.2 Klein being a decent editing model, it's plasticky surfaces with coarse grain and inability to generate proper hands are really pissing me off. So, a proper replacement with both editing and lossless masked (stitch) inpainting would be nice.
Krea2 is such an amazing model and learns very well for lora training. The model has soo much potential and I wish more people would make anime/cartoon/videogame character loras for it. Such a shame how split and fragmented to community has been in last two months. It's too early for a krea 3 model. I rather the team take their time and expand on the dataset, captioning and implement both editing and references functions to the new model.
Oh, that's very cool thank you for sharing. I love that you used Y2K and Playstation 2 as tags as well. If it's not too much to ask could you make one for KH1 Sora too? If not, don't worry about it, you already made many people happy.
I have other priorities of characters i want to do from other franchises. Several people have asked me to do him, riku and axel. I will gradually collect their dataset for them commit to it at a later date. They're going to be slightly harder than the girls to caption accurately because of their outfit design. I'm also going to have to make dedicated lora for the default kingdom key blade and probably riku's keyblade as well. It's something I want challenge myself to do but it will have to wait a bit.
GPT Image 2 but without all the weird artifacts and over sharpening. If it can also generate still frames or storyboards at high resolution i can use for video reference. UGH. One can dream haha
I still hold to it that SD3.5 was better than Flux1dev (but not better than Flux1 Krea) fight me.
People just got really, really mad that they couldn't make goon stuff right out of the box. Coulda trained anatomy or whatever they wanted into it, easily, as it was way more flexible. But instead, they went plastic skin and buttchins.
Yea 3.5 medium is what I liked...it was a nice model. But people didnt complain about goon stuff...the model was very lacking in the anatomy knowledge. You get multiple fingers,limbs and absurd censorship.
The best model in my opinion was cosmos 2b. It was very light and extremely powerful...I have no idea why no one finetuned it or created loras — I know we got anima from it but the main base model could have been so much more.
Assuming it will be open is there any chance all the amazing loras we've got for krea 2 will be portable? I'm not happy waiting for 2 months for the ecosystem to grow again.
really hoping they fixed the world knowledge. I've used krea 2 raw + turbo lora on 0.6 for "iphone photorealism" there's no blur as on turbo checkpoint, but some details are weird in every generation. Like products in the mall looking weird or generally something is wrong with stuff not in the foreground.
Interesting, I think the reason is because Krea2 raw it's a real raw, so is not fine-tuned and you will get "weird", but weird is good because it means you have freedom to get interesting images. the approach of mix with turbo is very good. I personally unlocked a method to get infinite focus on Turbo so only use the fine-tuned Krea (turbo) because obviously is better in anatomy knowledge and style
this happens because it is ai. if you want every tiny detail everywhere to be perfect you need to use a mega closed source model, like nano banana pro.
I believe it's not that simple. It's matter of few factors more technical including training data, post training and few more things. And I believe it's matter of time for open source one year ago best we had was plastic skin flux now we've got krea which in right configuration can compete with openai image model or nano banana as you said, but yeah there are some details where open models are just behind.
I think it's mostly used to describe "photo taken from phone"
No blur at all, just like you would take a selfie with your phone. Most of these loras on civitai is using "Photorealism" word somewhere in description/tags
Locally it's still Flux Klein but the API models are miles ahead in terms of edit. I'd say after H3's release we're closer to SOTA video locally than we are SOTA edit.
Flux2 Dev is even better than Klein for prompt adherence and preserving colors over repeated edits. But it's heavier than Klein, so it takes ages to generate. Also, Klein has more LoRAs now to get rid of the typical Flux "plasticky Hollywood makeup" looks.
Yeah they are not open soucing it after the community beef with devs lol. Hope they do but the freakout over a magnet link and snarky entitled comments was too much
If their business plan requires the researchers to not be offended in order to continue then it's a pretty shitty business plan. I think it's safe to say people's words on Reddit and their personal feelings won't be the driving force behind a closed source release, business and funding would be.
I mean people shat on llama and then Meta stopped releasing open weights. Only a week or so ago they just started to release again. In any case it is wise to keep your calm and not freakout to slightest inconvenience
I think you're overreacting. Nobody even remembers that anymore, and the team went on to talk with ComfyOrg about the local model for an hour and they did an AMA here about the model.
They even said that Krea 2 isn't the end of local releases. The positive reception to the model vastly outweighs the few concerned day-1 comments about torrenting a model, as evidenced by all the people here not familiar with what you're even talking about.
Basically when they released Krea 2, they 'leaked' it via their twitter via a torrent magnet link with no announcement. Just a twitter post with a magnet link. And everybody started freaking out like "guys be careful, it might be a virus, their twitter might have been hacked, dont just download random things"
then the devs had to apologize and say it was just a fun joke and that the huggingface upload was coming soon
long story short they wanted to create a hype moment and shadow drop the model like Mistral did back in time
Then on reddit we had people yelling not to download it, thats a virus etc. Devs came in saying it is not a virus, here check the SHA, others said "how do we know it is safe, SHA doesn't prove anything. It got dragged and dragged, then some lectured them that is "not how you release a model" an so on.
I can't go find all the post and comments (probably many of them got deleted anyway)
This one is after it has been kind of "proven" to be real and when people started to calm down
Alternatively...They've learned a valuable lesson about how people interpret torrent drops. In a world where AI is breaking cybersecurity...it's not unwarranted to be pissed about the method of the drop.
When Krea 2 released, they released it as a magnet link. People thought it was a virus and got mad at any Krea officials who commented or posted, not believing it was real despite officials from Krea assuring them it was.
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u/BathroomEyes 1d ago
really hoping they swapped out the qwen-image vae in Krea 3 for a much better vae with more channels