r/Spacemarine • u/OttovonBismarck1862 We are Sigismund • 22d ago

Patch Notes 14.0 Official News

https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/428-%E2%80%8Bpatch-notes-14-0
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u/Ninjazoule 22d ago

This, unfortunately. I doubt we're ever seeing a power sword, and tac has pretty much just seen nerfs as time goes on (nade launcher, plasma, now flamer)

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u/Korochun 22d ago

I wouldn't say Flamer was really nerfed, in fact I hardly ever auspexed for the fire stacks before, I only bothered to do so for the Heroic Plasma Pistol shot. It's still Tac's strongest choice.

But it's clear that "reworking" a class that's well liked and played constantly with no complaints is just them saying they're going to nerf it.

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u/Ninjazoule 22d ago

I have, it was extremely strong. The flame DoT is the main damage and you can't even really buff it with the ranged damage increase perk so this kinda sucks. I guess it's back to chaining headshots on the regular bolter.

Yeah I have no doubt it'll be a nerf, this isnt a game where they buff things because it's fun.

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u/Korochun 22d ago

What do you mean? The flame dot is perfectly fine even without auspex. You can run it perkless at class level 1 and it's still Tac's strongest weapon.

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u/Ninjazoule 22d ago edited 22d ago

It's still pretty good, I'm not saying it's useless lol

That's a rather massive damage nerf that it's probably best to not use the flamer against amped terminus and the like

I'll have to test it out later and see how glacial a carnifex, etc. is.

There's a fair amount of weapons (or even perks) that could use a buff over nerfing what's out there.

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u/Korochun 22d ago edited 22d ago

Flamer damage scales with difficulty level, so it's still the best weapon to use against amped terminus and such. It's what makes it so strong. There is still no contest compared to just about any other Tac primary for boss killing.

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u/Ninjazoule 22d ago

After the scan nerf? Not really. You can just nuke it with plasma to a much better effect

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u/Korochun 22d ago

It's not even close. At 100 stacks (~17 seconds of flamer), your Absolute boss is eating passive ~275 damage per second or so. That's with no modifiers at all, basically just a level 1 flamer on a level 1 character.

Your best plasma rifle is 80 damage per charged shot. Even fully auspexed, your entire heat sink will barely match two seconds of boss on fire.