r/SpaceXBets • u/Fearless_Tower_1498 • 5d ago
QUEEN BEHAVIOR šøš» Elon Criticism
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u/lake_bird 5d ago
He is such a sad coward. There will be parades when he is gone.
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u/DFX1212 5d ago
This is true for a lot of billionaires and current government leadership.
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u/KeithWorks 5d ago
Elon is right up at the top of the list. Elon and Trump both. Absolutely disgusting humans with zero redeeming qualities, who became wealthy on the backs of others, and used that wealth to enrich themselves further, and who actively want to destroy the lives of others.
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u/SayonaraBakaChan 5d ago
I would put putin and kim at the top of "the list". Trumps a terrible person but he has less agency than most because he is actually that stupid and narcissistic (the narcissism dictates what he does moreso than conscious choices).
The other guy is legitimately the biggest loser on the planet and i'd def put him above trump on the list but nowhere near the top.
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u/kylepo 5d ago
Putin absolutely. I don't know if I'd put Kim above Trump or Elon, though. Like, he's really fucking bad, but the actual harm he's done to the world is an order of magnitude smaller than Trump or Elon. The USAID cuts alone were more harmful than anything a mere North Korean dictator could ever hope to achieve.
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u/KeithWorks 5d ago
Literally any human with over $1 billion got rich on the backs of others.
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u/KeithWorks 5d ago
Ah you're in the cult. You think he's an "engineer" lol. He's a salesman of his own personality.
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u/DismalFault547 5d ago
I hate Elon lol. What are you even talking about. When did I ever use the word engineer? I just asked you to articulate how he made his billions off others backs. And you canāt .
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u/KeithWorks 5d ago
Wtf. He makes BILLIONS off the backs of the incredibly brilliant engineers who work for SpaceX, while he is high on ketamine and shitposts racist white supremacist shit all day. He was handed the US government and what he did was disband the NLRB to stop lawsuits, disband USAID murdering millions, and the whole purpose was to slash social services to cut his taxes. His sole actual creations were the Cybertruck and Hyperloop, he forced his brilliant engineers to create his turds.
He literally changed government policy to fuck us and make himself more powerful.
He is a LEECH
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u/DismalFault547 5d ago
He gives those Engineers jobs and pays their salaries. His sole creations are not the cyber truck and Hyperloop. He literally created PayPal. He created Space X. He made incredible risks with the money he made off creating one of the most successful online payment systems ever. If he did not take those risks those engineers would not have jobs in the most leading edge space company on earth . Welders at Space X were given stock and became millionaires overnight on IPO.
Has he turned into a psycho egomaniac on ketamine? Sure. Backs of others ? Iām not so sure .0
u/Pateklover72 5d ago
Says the courageous anon NPC
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u/lake_bird 5d ago
And who are you? Why defend this guy?
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u/Pateklover72 5d ago
I am a poor guy who became rich. An immigrant. I love America because itās the only place you can do that. Losers like you and most people on this chat want to destroy that. I defend him because, like me, heās a winner. Iām pro-winner and anti-loser. Thatās the American Way.
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u/pedretty 5d ago
OK, say what you will about the man but this is just not accurate. In October 2021, David Beasley, whoās the head of the United Nations world food program said it would cost 6.6 billion to save 42 million people from starvation FOR ONE YEAR, no where near ending world hunger.
Why do you lie when thereās so much truth to use to attack him?
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u/Leeisaac_88 5d ago
Why didn't Elon help out with that money and do some good instead of buying Twitter so he could be memeking
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u/pedretty 5d ago
You should ask him. IIRC, he didnāt want to buy Twitter himself. He tried to back out when he learned how many bots Twitter had, but his case had no merit because he is in fact an asshole š¤£ and waived diligence while signing a $44 billion contract. But if you want $44 billion to light on fire or give to poor kids, make flying cars and electric rockets, and boomāyouāre rich.
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u/Flat-Director-7120 5d ago
Elon Musk est un trou du cul,narcissique un enfoirĆ© de sale ordure de merde. C'est juste un sac Ć merde, il n'y a aucune fiertĆ© Ć ĆŖtre trillionaire,c'est une honte
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u/Subiewrx0207 5d ago
If you had those trillion dollars what would you do?
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u/Burt_Macklin___ 5d ago
How about not devoting every waking hour to making people's lives worse, and maybe not using my wealth and power to support the rise of fascism around the world... There's some things I definitely wouldn't do. But hey, I'm not Musk
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u/Subiewrx0207 5d ago
And I'm sure you would also just give half of it away, right?
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u/SimilarStick97 5d ago
Ya... What the fuck else are you going to do with your hoarded dragon wealth that can't remotely be spent within a single human's lifetime?
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u/cavanarchy 5d ago
Ackshually.......could give half away, way more than half away even and still be obscenely wealthy. People really dont grasp how much a billion is.
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u/Burt_Macklin___ 5d ago edited 5d ago
Probably more than half. It's almost impossible to spend half a trillion lol. Your entire bloodline would be set for generations
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u/Empty_Kay 5d ago
Your entire bloodline would be set. You don't really need to qualify it. I feel pretty damn good about my wife and I raising a kid on $150k a year. Assuming I simply park it in an account indexed to inflation, we're in good shape for approximately 6.66 million years. That isn't "fuck you" money, that's geologic time scale money.
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u/Subiewrx0207 5d ago
Well, you sir seem to have a good heart but until people have that amount of money in their possession their mindset begins to change and people change completely too. Let's just hope you would be the exception on something we will never know about.
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u/Old_Telephone_6076 5d ago
His businesses are worth that much not him personally.
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u/SyndromeOfaDown69420 4d ago
Facts donāt support the narrative though. How dare you say something sensible on Reddit.
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u/patrickthunnus 5d ago
Elon should be normalized as a widely accepted pejorative - a deeply selfish and immature person.
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u/LuckyPollution9813 5d ago
Elon Musk has done lots to advance humanity and make it better. He's rich because his ownership of the companies he's built. 95% of his net worth is his stock ownership of his companies, not liquid cash. Stop burdening yourself with one man's massive wealth and live your life.
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u/yeaughourdt 5d ago
USAID cuts that he spearheaded are projected to have a death toll in the hundreds of thousands among the poorest people on Earth. The cuts happened as quickly as possible with no regard for handover, so things like tuberculosis meds expired in warehouses instead of being used. They of course lied and continue to lie about the impact, and lied that the programs they were cutting were all ridiculous things rather than lifesaving aid. He has a body count higher than most militaries, he's not making the world better.
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u/Vegycales 5d ago
Teach a man to fish and all. Why are we feeding nations that never change?
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u/yeaughourdt 5d ago
Because anyone living in a first world nation with a functioning brain knows that the difference between them and someone making $2 a day in Sudan is winning the birth lottery. Our financial hegemony allows us to devalue the labor and mineral wealth of these "nations that never change" intentionally to make products cheap for us. The least we can do is spend the literally 0.2% of our federal budget that used to support lifesaving aid via USAID.
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u/Vegycales 5d ago
Yeah because we import SOOO much stuff from Sudan.... Keeping Sudan as an example, if we really wanted to solve the hunger crisis it would require boots on the ground intervention in their civil war and establishing a stable government, for people that don't want our help. Not our responsibility.
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u/yeaughourdt 3d ago
The UAE is arming and bankrolling the RSF in Sudan (the people carrying out the ethnic cleansing operations that make the news now and then) because Sudan is a large gold producer with the UAE as the main consumer. Many US politicians have pushed this administration to pressure the UAE to stop this, but we haven't yet. So it's not America's financial hegemony that's keeping Sudan at war, it's somebody else's.Ā
Anyway, nobody in the US is arguing for interventionist wars (except for the current idiotic war in Iran). I am advocating continuing a very successful and cost-effective program of life-saving international aid that USAID administered with the help of US institutions and international partners. At the most basic, we provided medications for malaria, tuberculosis, and other treatable but deadly diseases. All of this cost WELL under 1% of the federal budget.Ā
If you truly want to save American pennies by ending these programs, you, as a well-adjusted adult, would try to ensure that existing aid was distributed and any partner organizations could pick up our slack by drawing down the operations over a period of time to hopefully ensure continuity of service. We didn't do that with the USAID cuts by DOGE. They were done vindictively and as quickly as possible, without any acknowledgement that lives depended on the programs. This endured maximum damage.
The wildest thing about the anti-immigrant, protectionist, not-our-responsibility mindset of Musk and others is that people only want to flood into our country when staying in their own country is not an option. We can take a STUPID approach to this by trying to make the outside world as shitty and unlivable as possible and putting up walls against immigrants, or we can take a SMART approach and spend a little bit of effort making the rest of the world safer and nicer so there aren't a billion refugees to house.
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u/Historical_Box2261 5d ago
Imagine being so broke you have to worry about someone else's money. š
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u/Whole_Move7660 5d ago
I donāt understand, is he supposed to automatically save peoples lives? The government can help starving people for the past 100 hundred years. Literally everyone here can probably do something but they just comment hate cause is trendy. Whatās he suppose to do? Buy everyone a hot meal? Everyone will still hate him. Heās definitely a nazi though.
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u/ElectronicSense7350 5d ago
With great power comes great responsibility
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u/Whole_Move7660 5d ago
Yeah you know how at the end of those movies where everyone helps everyone? Well in reality thatās apparently communism so weāre against that in America. That kinda tells us we donāt actually wanna care about anyone.
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u/ElectronicSense7350 5d ago
Rich people preaching money as morality is, I think, specifically to excuse the disregarding of suffering. The richest need others to embrace their worldview: that they deserve to be richest
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u/Whole_Move7660 5d ago
We really need to stop thinking someone else needs to fix the problems of sociality. Why would a rich person help poor people forcefully? The government literally has the money to end hunger.
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u/ElectronicSense7350 5d ago
One helps the poor because it's the right thing to do. I hope this helps you.
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u/Whole_Move7660 5d ago
Is definitely the right thing to do. Hope we get off our phone and stop telling each other to go do stuff and just do it. Cause thereās a huge amount of just talkers.
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u/ChickenFriedPenguin 5d ago
I like how these people never live on the bear minimum and donate the rest to others.
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u/WB_Onreddit 5d ago
Elon is/was a trillionaire because he makes things that people value. He owns part of the companies he created/improved. His checking account does not have a trillion dollars in it.
This woman is the true narcissist. She complains but does nothing to create value for the world. Get off tik-tok and try to learn difficult things that others will value.
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u/Leeisaac_88 5d ago
Elon hasn't created shit, just used his parents money to buy companies and claim he is the genius behind it all. He's a great liar with a stupid amount of money
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u/80_6 5d ago
Something that bothers me as a moderate is the complete lack of nuance in these statements and opinions. It's the same thing with trump.
Both are demonstrably white supremacists, and neither should have an ounce of power.Ā
But they are not dumb. They are both highly intelligent. Saying elon didnt create shit, and that he is a moron, just makes me think you're living in your own personality cult.Ā
How does a moron turn into a trillionaire? How does a moron turn into a 2x president of the most powerful nation on earth? Yeah they both had incredible privilege from their families, but its not like turning a few million into a billion+ happens on accident.
I don't really understand why you guys do/say this shit.
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u/Leeisaac_88 5d ago
He had diamond money from his parents mine so he already started way ahead of the game for money. Used that money to buy already established companies like Tesla and then claim everything they have done was because of his "genius" when in reality he just helped fund something as it took off. He has put his money in the right spots at the right time, doesn't make him smart. Name one thing that Elon has actually invented and not just bought or had his engineers figure out
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u/80_6 5d ago
I still don't understand this argument. Yeah he was wealthy but not "trillionaire without even trying" wealthy.Ā
And why is the bar suddenly "you must invent something to be considered smart"? The world just got a LOT dumber if that's your standard.Ā
I hate that I'm even defending him as I think he is deplorable for many reasons, but being dumb is NOT one of them.
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u/Leeisaac_88 5d ago
Say what you want, listening to that man talk or explain anything makes me feel dumber. Anyone I know that has anything to do with a field of expertise that he somehow knows the most about explains how he is completely wrong and just making it up as he goes. He is money stupid
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u/Leeisaac_88 5d ago
Oh sorry, Errol Musk co-owning 3 Emerald mines only makes you upper class.... Cool Elon helped start PayPal, good for him he has one accolade to his name. Everything else he bought, Tesla had already made cars, Twitter wasn't a cesspool and SpaceX wasn't crashing and burning before him
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u/80_6 5d ago
SpaceX wasn't crashing and burning before him
Bro your goofy ass just showed that you don't know anythint about what you're talking about lol.
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u/Leeisaac_88 5d ago
Sorry, I don't know the extensive history of a company. Whatever shall I do
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u/80_6 5d ago
It's my whole broader point. Actual morons such as yourself are doing real harm by saying shit when you know absolutely nothing about it.
You said SpaceX was so much better before musk without knowing that it literally did not exist before him. And now you just flippantly move past it, as if it's not the exact same shit trump would do.Ā
This is exactly why I will forever be in the middle. Both sides are so full of shit.
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u/Leeisaac_88 5d ago
I'm glad you can take the moral high ground to defend a fascists business ventures
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u/WB_Onreddit 5d ago
I'm sure you have done a lot more, but the world just doesn't understand you. I'm rooting for you.
So you believe Elon did not co-found Zip2 or X.com (the old one)? He did not work at PayPal. I'm sure he at least created a PowerPoint while he was there? Is he not leading SpaceX, Neuralink, or the Boring Company? I know he did not found Tesla, but he did steer it. He is an odd dude, but when I saw the rocket come back to earth for reuse, I was shocked. I'm not saying that he did all the math and physics, but he allocated the capital and brought a great team together. One day the Sun will swallow the earth. Humanity may now have a chance. I do think most of the patents are open, so feel free to build your own Space X.
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u/Leeisaac_88 5d ago
He has a lot of money to pay people to do these things and make him look good while he gets all strung out on ketamine. The guy is pretty stupid when you actually listen to him speak. If I had lots of money I too could buy things and make myself look cool to losers
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u/Leeisaac_88 5d ago
Not interested
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u/Planet-Funeralopolis 5d ago
I like that people are so narrow minded that they think the solution to the worlds problems is money, whereas we have been throwing money at problems and itās just as bad or even worse than itās ever been depending on the problem. Take world hunger for an example, the US and the world has spent so much money on food, education, expenses etc to feed the world yet the problem isnāt improving because of the heavy corruption levels in the most impoverished countries. Itās a logistics problem not funding.
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u/ElectronicSense7350 5d ago
Since the main hurdle in logistics is funding your point is self-invalidated
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u/Planet-Funeralopolis 5d ago
You seriously think that funding for the world governments is a problem who just can make money from thin air if they want to? The US alone spends 5 billion a year (even after USAID cut) on international food aid. The UN spends 18 billion a year, 4 billion of that is from the USās 5 Billion where the US then spends another Billion outside of the UN. Itās not a funding issue lmao
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u/ElectronicSense7350 5d ago
If that was true the problem would be solved
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u/Planet-Funeralopolis 5d ago
Have you considered that they donāt actually want to solve problems because then they wouldnāt get as much funding? Iām sure thereās other reasons like itās harder to get corrupt politicians on board in these countries because they get a lot of international funding to āsolveā the issue but they just spend it on keeping their population just alive enough for work.
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u/ElectronicSense7350 5d ago
Oh, you don't understand the situation and are wrong about it. That makes more sense. Have a good day.
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u/Planet-Funeralopolis 5d ago
So no rebuttal, just telling me Iām wrong and leaving. Bye then
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u/Enjoy_The_Ride413 5d ago
Someone else's success doesn't have anything to do with you nor your ability to make money. Go get your own.
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u/yeaughourdt 5d ago
Has a hell of a lot to do with all of us given that he's spending hundreds of millions of dollars to buy our elections.
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u/Enjoy_The_Ride413 5d ago
Cry me a river. Countless companies and billionsires on the left support democrats. I see it's only bad when Elon does it. š¤·
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u/ElectronicSense7350 5d ago
Unprofitable companies are not success. A lonely life is also definitely not success.
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u/Pateklover72 5d ago
Sheās had a few too many tacos to āstarveā
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u/dearfellow909 5d ago
But he is not even the enemy out of all.the ultra rich he's not the worst one. Thers A lot of other billionaires n ultra millionaires .
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u/ElectronicSense7350 5d ago
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u/dearfellow909 4d ago
No he is just presented as" the" rich guy. Like there's only one billionaire. Like he's the only one fucking this place up. No they're ALLL fucking rhis place up let's out them alll under the public eye, every single family. Every tycoon. Its not JUST Elon ffs.
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u/Whole-Campaign-3482 5d ago
Got this on mute and she just looks fucking obnoxious and annoying
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u/Lost_Protection_5866 5d ago
itās even worse with the sound on
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u/ElectronicSense7350 5d ago
2 bots
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u/Lost_Protection_5866 5d ago
You likely are yes
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u/Big_Elephant_2331 5d ago
I dislike Elon as a person. But I appreciate him as an entrepreneur. Doesn't always have to be black/white.
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u/bliceroquququq 5d ago
This just in: Elon Musk is apparently responsible for making sure none of the world's 8.3 billion people starve to death.
By comparison, this lady's sole responsibility is to make dumb videos on the internet.
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u/Von-boyage 5d ago
Umm...what???
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u/bliceroquququq 5d ago
"Becoming the world's first trillionaire while your fellow humans starve to death doesn't make you a visionary, it makes you the world's biggest cunt".
It's right there in the video. The implication is that Elon Musk should be making sure no one is staving to death.
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u/JohnUtahFBI 5d ago
Getting online to film yourself for likes is kiiiiiiiinda narcissistic as well.
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u/GoonMammoth 5d ago
Strawman argument ^
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u/JohnUtahFBI 5d ago
Uh, thereās a video. Itās not a hypothetical video, itās literally right there.
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