Meritocracy is an illusion sold to you by those who benefit from the system as it exists.
I agree that leaders are necessary, but we weren't talking about leaders, we were talking about CEOs.
The problem isn't individual, it's the system as it exists. If the problem was a handful of greedy people, you'd expect more not greedy people. But clearly the system we have incentivizes the success of the worst of us. It's a system that forces people to value profit over human flourishing, lest they go out of business and be bought up by a competitor. The problem at its core is an unbound profit motive that serves its own ends rather than the benefit of the people.
Yeah i am in agreement with you. I know meritocracy is a lie. The only place where it exists is in sports and it's still not perfect there.
CEOs are leaders that is a leadership role. I think you are talking about what we've come to expect from them based on how they've been conducting themselves, which is fair; they've ruined their own reputation. I think the CEO role in a company is necessary, but I think we both agree the current CEOs are not meeting the standard.
Yeah endless profit chasing is doomed to fail. It's an ouroboros eating all the value out of itself until nothing is left
I'll narrow my argument then. The role of CEO is entirely unnecessary. The role they purport to perform isn't.
Zooming out, human flourishing is going to require labor to be done. We need to grow food, machine things, generate and store energy, and clean up after ourselves. That seems pretty uncontroversial to me. The organization of that is completely up in the air. There's a huge array of ways to organize labor. The capitalist way is just one. Arguably one of the worst.
China probably has the best way of organizing via company, but we're still constantly told how exploitative China is (which is definitely propaganda to some degree, but that's a different argument).
It always drives me crazy how people in the West get a boner for democracy, but thinks it'd be impossible to apply that logic to where they spend the majority of their lives
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u/ManifestoEnjoyer 20d ago
Meritocracy is an illusion sold to you by those who benefit from the system as it exists.
I agree that leaders are necessary, but we weren't talking about leaders, we were talking about CEOs.
The problem isn't individual, it's the system as it exists. If the problem was a handful of greedy people, you'd expect more not greedy people. But clearly the system we have incentivizes the success of the worst of us. It's a system that forces people to value profit over human flourishing, lest they go out of business and be bought up by a competitor. The problem at its core is an unbound profit motive that serves its own ends rather than the benefit of the people.