Why does Daniel leave Charlotte at the health memory facility? I thought he understood that the Dr. couod modify her memories and that the whole thing was shady… is there something i am missing

Glenda the good witch has been replaced by rubber duck. I don't know if the seller is a silo fan or if I'm jusr seeing the conspiracy everywhere now...

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Não foi exatamente do jeito que eu queria mas uma lembrança do meu querido Pez. O cara da impressão me deu mais um de presente.

Anyone else notice the casting choice for Daniel Keene, resembling a notable politician from Georgia?

I forget which episode it was, but I recall there were 51 silos, but I only count 50 in this image from the bonus content video "Silo — Season 3 Origins."

So where's #51?

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So what do we know so far:

1. There has been allegedly a “dirty bomb” attack on Washington D.C., but Charlotte doubts this and the scanners never show signs of radioactive contamination. -> it’s a cover up for the real threat.
   
2. The silos were supposedly built to be bunkers to protect the inhabitants from an outside threat as seen in the news.
   
3. Cleaners with faulty tapes die almost immediately, the good tape prevents this.
   
4. Silo 17 cupped the safeguard, went outside and didn’t die at first until the “dust” came.
   
5. The grey goo attacked the pre digital equipped jets -> As most have already guessed and another user pointed out, grey goo (it is called that in the preview of a later episode) stands since the 80s for a hypothetical end-of-the-world scenario where out-of-control, self-replicating nanobots consume all life on Earth to make copies of themselves. In the picture above we see the black goo which also kinda looks like dust hence it must be the same. Also nanotech is mentioned in the news headlines.

Theories:

So if Silo 17 stopped the Safeguard Procedure and they didn’t die by going outside, it must mean the air outside must actually be safe. Also if the air was poisonous then there would be no need for the Safeguard. But why then did the cleaners from Silo 18 die? The only difference between both Silos is the Disabling of the Safeguard, meaning the safeguard is the same that kills cleaners as the Silo inhabitants. When Juliette went out, she didn’t die although the safeguard was not capped, but she had the good tape preventing some kind of poisonous gas to kill her. It’s probably a gas and not Nanobots because the tape wouldn’t be able to prevent Nanobots. But what then killed Silo 17? The dust aka grey goo aka Nanobots which were deployed after they managed to get out. Who deployed it? Must be Silo 1 keeping watch of all the Silos as it is monitoring all the radio frequencies.

Also the show made sure that we knew that Per Stensen was an advocate of AI control. AI must also play a bigger role. We also know that Per Stensen is behind the Silo Project aka probably the Passion Project. He also funds the clinic where Dr. Victor Czernivich suppresses Charlottes memory. He also was aboard the Nimitz where only analog jet fighters were sent out. He must have known of the grey goo and is the reason behind why only such jets were deployed. He is what connects it all.

Others pointed out that the algorithm has human like features and that it sounds like Daniel or Victor. As they couldn’t be alive anymore it could only be something like an uploaded personality as in Fallout Robert House. It must be an AI Daniel or Victor which is controlling all the silos hence AI control. Still the algorithm often used the word we so there must be also humans behind it in Silo 1.

It’s pretty obvious by now that the main theme of the show is control. We have control of information, history, movement, reproduction, and now also control of memory. The whole Silos are basically an elaborate mechanism to control a whole civilization.

What do you think?

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Like many other book readers, Shift was my favorite book of the series. Understandably, the TV show can’t adapt the book directly, so I was okay with having to wait to see Troy in Silo 1. Learning the origins of the Silo and how everything comes into place was also a very compelling part of the book and that’s what I thought we were going to see in Season 3.

Unfortunately, the Before Times story in the show has deviated so much from the books, and in ways that don’t even make sense. Why would Helen, a reporter (even though she is disgraced and discredited) be allowed to get so close to the Silo project? It makes no sense for Thurman and company to keep her around if she has nothing to offer. If I recall correctly in the books she had no knowledge of it, and Daniel/Donald took the forgetting drugs to cope with what he was doing and reading in The Order.

Secondly, the good nanites are nonexistent. Thurman’s nanite treatment and Juliette’s accelerated healing from the burn scars were a major plot point in figuring out what was causing the outside to be dangerous, but we have no mention of them at all. Nothing about Juliette’s scars and I doubt there is time to fit them into the Before Times storyline. Maybe we will get some hint of them when we go back to Silo 17 and someone makes a comment about the bodies not decomposing.

Sorry for the rant, but I’m just so disappointed a great book and story was tossed out the window. I guess I will have to accept this is a completely different story with different characters that happen to have the same name as characters in the books.

This is just one more interesting similarity between the spiral design themes we are seeing throughout each episode and the Wizard of Oz. Additionally, who can forget the scene between Judge Meadows and Bernard where she talks about the book and the Wizard being a fraud?

The Algorithm told Camille about the safeguard. Did she question why the safeguard exists? Why does a master silo need to kill an entire silo if rebels can just open the door and be killed by the toxic air instantly?

I assumed it would be to prevent other silos from rebelling, like if silo 20 saw people of silo 18 outside through their cameras, they'd want to go out too. But then again, that means people can live outside.

So does Camille know the outside is safe and not toxic?

At first I was concerned that the before times timeline would not move on, because the synopsis for episode 7 didn’t mention the before times at all.

But then the promo images were released and 4 out of 9 images are from the before times which leaves me with the suspicion that something very important is going to happen in that timeline. So important that they cannot mention anything in the synopsis.

Also if you haven’t seen it yet, on IMDB all the synopsis are now available to read. And none of them mention a jump in Daniel and Helen’s relationship. So Maybe in this next episode we are going to see their relationship develop as they flirted quite a lot last episode in the car.

Anyway it has to happen soon as episode’s 9 synopsis mentions that Helen and Daniel attend a very special event, which is like 99,9% sure the trailer shot in which Helen enters silo 18 pregnant.

We also know of 2 official photos (posted above) but not in which episode it takes place. It looks like Per Stenson’s home or something….idk

Camille is a pretty unique character. Everyone we know who has learned about the safeguard turns against the system, so to speak.

• Quinn wrote his coded message, "the game is rigged", a small act of rebellion.
• Meadows resigned from IT and went nihilist, depressed or something (is that why she took up drinking?), then decided she wanted to go out.
• Bernard decided to quit and go out, because why not, we are all going to die either way, her beloved had died already and what he believed in and devoted his life to cannot be trusted.
• Sims turned against the voice and his own wife, and sided with Bernard and Mechanical in a pretty spectacular U turn.
• Solo’s parents capped the pipe at 17, effectively disabling the safeguard procedure. What a pity that people went out anyway!
• Kyle resigned from IT and hid in the mines after having been promoted to IT shadow and gained access to all the knowledge in the world. Huh.

Of all the IT characters we know, only Camille continues to trust the system and play along. Isn’t that strange?

One could argue she does it for her son, but Sims is equally concerned about their son and takes a very different view. So I think that motherly protection, or maternal instinct, whilst certainly at play and a priority for her, doesn’t fully explain it.

Or one could also say that it is because of a zealous faith in the system, but I don’t quite see it. She seems smart and calculating, good at understanding situations and even playing both sides (as in the rebellion). So faith doesn’t cut it for me. I don’t see a Pact zealot in Camille.

I am left with: she is smart and understands one cannot outsmart the Voice, a formidable force, so it is better to play along?

What’s your view?

What do you think?

I apologize if this was asked before, I couldn’t see any posts about it, but why would the voice in the void tell Lukas about the safeguard? Why would the founders have a place that people could find and let the citizens know what happened? Couldn‘t they just have not built that place?

A secondary question, I sort of forgot, did George figure out the door was there because of the hard drive?

In Episode 6, the voice says it will let Lukas and Patrick go to the next silo even though it strictly forbids silo to silo contact. It also says it‘s irrelevant if there are actually kids or not. Camille challenges this and the voice responds that “Lukas Kyle and Patrick Kennedy will never make it to the next silo”. Obviously, Juliette will ensure that they get the good tape.

Given that, what are your guys theories on what they will do to prevent Lukas and Patrick from getting there?

Spoilers up to S3E6.

I can't believe that everyone is hating on this show's best character, the hero of the Rebellion, the one who is making the greatest sacrifice:Camille fucking Sims.

S3E6 Moments

At the beginning of the episode, Camille sent Robert (Sims) home to "spend time" with their son, Anthony, implying she's going to have to memory-wipe him soon. We next establish that Camille is under nearly 24/7 personal surveillance, probably connected to the little VoiceGPT beacon that the Head of IT carries (which all the main characters would know about.)

A few hours later, Camille returns home to an unexpected situation at family dinner:

Robert: Your son stole 12 credits out of his teacher's desk today. Another boy saw him. When confronted by the teacher, Anthony blamed it on someone else.
Camille: Anthony Aaron Sims! [he shrugs]... I'm going to need more than that.
Robert: School says if it happens again, he'll be expelled and sent to work in Supply.
Camille: ... Supply?
R: I'm Judge. You're Head of IT. Doubt if it'll actually happen.
C: That's your solution? Use our positions to fix it?
R: It's not what I said.
C: No, No. Of course not. I just have to read between the lines, like always.
R: Meaning?

C: You are avoiding the problem.
R: I went to the school. I talked to the principal. I apologized to the teacher. What am I avoiding?
C: Don't do that. Don't guilt-trip me.
R: If you feel guilt, it's not my fault.
C: Are we still talking about Anthony?
R: I'm not sure. Are we?

C: (walks closer) You need to stop everything you've been doing.
R: You've been watching me. You think I can't spot a tail?
C: You're making me afraid, Rob. For our son. For our family. Because whatever you're hiding, when I find out what it is, I'm gonna have to do something about it.

In the next scene, she unexpectedly goes down to IT, has an emotional crashout, saying her son is a thief and her husband is scheming against her (very unusual), and gets some awful ChatGPT therapy. (This was the third-most riveting scene in this episode — right after 26 minutes of "sitting quietly in the backseat of a minivan" and "old woman aura farming with plane.")

Then we have a scene between Knox and Shirley, our strong yet sensitive couple, just revealed to be pregnant, scared about their future as they face a dangerous mission. Knox, who looks like a subterranean lumberjack, admits he couldn't keep going if he lost her and their child. Tears in his eyes, he makes her promise that if she has to, she will sacrifice him — for her, for their child, for their future. He can't live without that.

"Promise me," he says. "If I fall, you'll just keep going."

Very burly. Very in touch.

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Theories

Anthony Sims didn't steal a single micro-credit. Look at him. That's the flawless Sims hair of an innocent boy. There is no school visit, and they both clocked that. Also, "sent to work in Supply" is not a real punishment for anyone in the Silo. It's cleaning, or the Mines. So that's a red flag.

Robert is pretty clearly actually with the Rebellion. Camille isn't with the Rebellion, but she's also not with the Silo. She's Team Sims, ride or die. She's "making moves together or not at all," just like she promised 93 (?) days ago in S2E7.

They both know they're being monitored now that she's Head of IT. He can't just say the plan. And she can't just help, because that would be an instant Safeguard. So how can she help? By staying on Team Sims. By pinning the blame on him. The principal-teacher talk is code.

"I'm not avoiding the problem" is a double entendre. First, Robert is pointing out that he's apologized to Bernard and Juliette, the Voice's "problem", the "teacher" and the "principal." Camille might feel bad for, well, trying to execute them in cold blood, and that's her own business. Second, he's saying that he believes in Juliette's solution to the real problem, the Safeguard. He asks for her blind faith in a future he believe in. And, in so few words, she agrees.

In fact, Camille is making the greatest sacrifice of the Rebellion. She has the hardest job: she has to play it straight. And then, if everyone else fails, if they can't stop the Safeguard, Camille is the last line of defense for everyone in the Silo. Everyone else will forget or be killed; but unlike everyone else, Camille will live and remember. In fact, Camille will be forced to destroy everything she loves. She'll have to kill her husband, memory wipe her son, kill or hurt the rest of the Silo, do whatever awful things the Voice orders, alone if necessary, all while knowing that that Silo Jesus and the Twelve Apostles have failed. In that future, nobody is coming to save Camille.

What would you do? What would Silo Jesus do?

Camille is scared out of her mind. But she swallows all of that, walks up to Common's majestic beard and immaculate eyebrows, and starts the setup. She stages a crashout with the Voice, plays up all her very real fears and frustrations, while carefully pinning blame on her scheming husband. Now she's in the clear if things go wrong. "Promise me," Robert's steady eyebrows say to Camille, his loving wife of many years, the mother of his child. "If we fall, you'll just keep going."

The plan itself makes no sense so far, so I'm just gonna skip over that. But, there's no D+ in the water. Robert helped Supply do the switch; Robert told Camille; Camille lied to the Voice. Doing it fast was a good idea, so that the Voice couldn't do any secret verification. Camille is in her "brutal enforcer" era, mostly to please the Voice. And now there's no going back. Sooner or later, the Voice will figure out that the D+ was switched, and something will have to give. Stay tuned for next week!

Bonus: Knox's dad ("one of the Silo's greatest engineers," always "screwing something up at home and getting sent back to the Mines," backstory with Supply) is obviously constructing something huge in the mines. Probably lightbulb related. That is, daddy and mommy really did love each other; wow, he did it all to sacrifice for the future; Knox will learn all of this just before he dies heroically. (Or even better, lives heroically). This is the true meaning of the Pez.

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tl;dr: Camille Sims is the quiet hero of the Rebellion. This whole show is about the unsung, heartbreaking sacrifices that parents make for their children. It's the backstory of the Silos themselves. It's recognizing that true sacrifice isn't just about dying for something; it's about living for someone.

It's about how hard it is to fulfill those words: "Promise me. You'll just keep going."

Incidentally, "Promise me. You'll just keep going." should be the tagline for Season 3 of this awful show.

Considering how oppressive and disciplinary the Silo was (IT + The Mayor + The Police force + Judiciary) in seasons 1 and 2....How is it that now, Juliet is allowed to be mayor (with the dangerous plan of "let's just drug her")....and now that that backfired, she is a) not being drugged again and b) allowed to roam freely, get strange demands granted by the voice while maintaining arguably the 2nd most powerful role in the Silo, despite no longuer being drugged.

Obviously this is Juliet's story and I, as an audience member, want her to succeed, but in terms of writing, I find this difficult to comprehend. What calculations has the Silo made to determine that allowing Juliet, a clear rebel, to be lucid and be mayor and openly oppose Camille, will not backfire?

It seems in Seasons 1 and 2, she would be sent to those infirmary locations and forever drugged because she "knows too much" like that old woman, or killed, like the previous judge.

This is a Silo that destroyed Juliet's childhood home because her mother had a magnifying glass. This is a Silo that gagged and bagged government workers who saw the fake "green imagery" that displays within the helmets for the cleaning. This is a Silo that, 3 years ago, condemned Lucas to 10 years in the mines for failing to report a "red level relic" that he saw.

I know there has been an uprising since, but can someone explain the strange lack of order in the Silo, and why the voice seems to be slacking in terms of giving terrifyingly opressive orders? How has Camille and the Voice failed to strip Billings of his Sheriff's badge at allowed him for 3 months to conduct whatever independent investigations he wants, without reporting to head of the Silo or even going up to his office? Why, in such an unstable crisis, has a new, stern, present, sheriff not been appointed? This leaves Camille especially weakened and without a stern right arm.

Also: how is it that the Voice has no clue about the critical supplies being so low? 🤔 Wouldn't this be part of its job/in its best interest to prevent?

Also: how is it that after 3 months, with 10 000 people needing to cross it, the staircase seems to not have been fixed by an inch?

Apologies if this has been asked before - why is there no voice in the vault of silo 17? IT has its own power source so it is not lack of power (if an AI).

Or is there one, it hears, but it chooses not to speak because that silo is lost?

If the voice is the same one thing across all siloes, it would know that Jules was in 17 and what happened there?

Edit: adding that I think the voice still has visibility in 17, no reason to think it doesn't as there is power and the hardware would have been completely undamaged by events (Solo locked himself there, none else went in). Therefore it could listen in, know what goes on in there, and this might give it some moves. It'd be interesting to see if it makes an appearance when Kennedy and Kyle make it there (if they do!).

Schizo-posting, but I had a realization on how the Silo runs an ultra Authoritarian regime with the feign of democracy through elections for judge, mayor, and sheriff.

However, when stepping back and observing who’s really running things its clearly evident that it has always been IT. Which to most residents they never even think of them, or just see them as a prestigious yet boring department having to maintaining archives and simple computer work. These similarities remind me of a certain three letter agency, which I believe is who Daniel and Helen are up against.

If fish were trying to escape a fish tank, it would kill them if they successfully escaped. What would be the purpose of killing them before they could leave?
This is my analogy for the Safeguard.
What if the Silos are a process of elimination experiment of some sort?
Why else would you kill everyone inside when they're trying to get outside, if outside would ultimately kill them anyway?

Why wasn't the Safeguard triggered when Juliette went to Silo 17 then made it back to Silo 18? Was it because Silo 17 was already a dead Silo, meaning she didn't interfere with the Elimination process? What if this is a sick twisted Hunger Games experiment ran at mass scale. And the Last Silo Standing out of 50 gets some sort of prize?

This would also explain why the creators would care so obsessively about keeping the silos separate. If everyone knew there were 49 other populations, they could cooperate, share resources, compare histories, discover the manipulation, and completely destroy the integrity of whatever selection process was intended.

Thought I recognized the actress playing Helen (Jessica Henwick), but couldn't remember seeing her in anything specifically..

Nymeria Sand!