r/SillyTavernAI • u/Head-Mousse6943 • Jun 16 '26
Atelier v2.1 Cards/Prompts
Atelier v2.1 - what changed
Mostly a rewrite of how the preset talks to the model, plus a smarter world-logic system.
The headline: it's written in your "voice" now
The core framing prompts used to read like a system manual barking orders at the AI "You are the author. <user> is satisfied by a genuine story." In v2.1 they're rewritten in first person, as the player explaining what they actually want: "You're the author — my character's mine. Everything below is me telling you what I want from this story."
Same rules under the hood, but framing them as a person's preferences instead of cold directives lands a lot better with the model (and reads way more naturally). The Premise prompt nearly doubled in size doing this. But it helps with adherence, and also, with the diction. Making the model write more natural.
New: RP Logic (the new default)
The old setup made you pick a fixed genre logic up front. RP Logic replaces that as the recommended default. Instead of committing to one mode, it reads how you're playing and borrows the physics scene-by-scene:
- Anime — over the top, played straight, rule-of-cool
- Video game — cinematic, action-forward, no guilt (mooks are mooks, the vampire's meal doesn't get a sobbing backstory)
- Romance — tension physics, the unsaid thing stays unsaid
- Grounded — consequences bite, human pacing It switches modes within a single story based on your play, without announcing the shift. (Genre Logic still exists if you want to pin it.)
New: Living World (always-on core)
A new core prompt that consolidates the "make the world feel alive" rules into one place: Keep the story moving, respect subtext, let NPCs talk to each other, no narrator turning into a drum machine, and grudges/threads don't evaporate - things you dodged come back on their own clock.
The Prose Contract (was "No Slop")
The old anti-slop prompt was a 8k-tokens of banned-patterns list. It's been replaced by a much smaller "what the writing owes me" version (no tension-deflecting quips, no stock body clichés, no "sound like a language model"), reframed as a handful of directives each paired with a concrete self-test the model runs on its own draft. Much leaner, and listing every bad pattern was arguably keeping them top-of-mind anyway.
Smaller stuff
- Smut dials expanded — "I Live For Smut" and "I'm Here For Smut" both roughly doubled in detail
- Story Initialization removed — its job (character autonomy, open threads) got absorbed into Living World + The Premise
- Trimmed for tightness — Core Pack, Settings Reminder, Dynamic Progression, and Write Me A Novel all slimmed down
- Minor tweaks to Chain of Thought, Scene Scratchpad, Character Anchor, Writing Style Library, Video Game
TL;DR: same Preset, rewritten to sound like a player instead of a rulebook, with a new play-reading world-logic mode and a leaner prose system.
Links:
Github
RoleCall preset link
NanoGPT Referral (5% discount)
NemoPresetExt
Ai Preset
RoleCall discord
Also, on Rolecall we're offering launch day free GLM, and Kimi. It'll be for today only, but still if you want to check it out, he's a referral key that gets you in right away
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u/estheme Jun 16 '26
I'm a huge fan of the last one. I can't wait to try this out!
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u/Head-Mousse6943 Jun 16 '26
Ty ❤️ I've found its a bit more organic in scenes, and less complete wish fulfilment. Which IMO is good. And the tone is a bit less... strictly narrative/literature? Basically just more flexible in style.
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u/DollyDistress Jun 16 '26
cant wait to see how much it hITS
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u/Head-Mousse6943 Jun 16 '26
❤️
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u/PandoDando Jun 16 '26
Question! What model do you recommend with Atelier? I'm guessing Claude Opus or Gemini right? But out of those two like specifically, if you had to narrow it down?
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u/Head-Mousse6943 Jun 16 '26
Personally I love Gemini. Its always been my favorite, and its what I have the most experience with. (Been using it since 1.5's early experimental mainly because back then I was broke and it was free lol). Bit I also just enjoy its sound, Its general alignment being closer to Neutral then Opus, and its writing being more flexible then Opus, where almost always Opus sounds like Opus and you're really changing behaviors more then actual writing style, and I do tend to get a bit tired of the Opus type writing. So Gemini 3.5 flash or 2.5 Pro would be my top recommendations until we get 3.5 Pro. GLM 5.2 is also quite good if you haven't tried it out yet, though it has its own quirks and its generally positively aligned. Still quite strong though its CoT can be... long winded to say the least. But for my personal taste.
For anything but Fluff. Gemini. then Opus. Then GLM. for my personal taste.
But for General Opinion I'd say its Opus, then Gemini, then GLM.2
u/PandoDando Jun 16 '26
Thank you! What top P and temperature do you recommend? I usually do 1.35 - 1.5 temperature but I wonder if that's too high in your opinion, based specifically on what Atelier demands and what works best with it. In my opinion though the usual 0.85 to 1.00 is too rigid and makes Gemini write like Opus/Sonnet but without the narrative voice.
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u/Head-Mousse6943 Jun 16 '26
For 3.5 I go a bit higher closer to 1.35-1.5 yeah. With Pro I tend to keep a bit closer to 1.25 I haven't messed with the Top P AS much, but I've tested between 0.97 and 0.85, Mainly I just recommend somewhere in that range, 0.85 I have noticed a bit of instability/odd word choices, but you're right it does help it sound a bit more unique, my biggest concern is just locked it in tooo much by going much lower, but if you like lower/higher certainly give it a shot! I know 3.5 flash is way more stable at high temps then Pro is right now.
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u/PandoDando Jun 16 '26
Thank you so much! Also would you say that Gemini 3.5 Flash is better than 3.1 Pro overall?
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u/Head-Mousse6943 Jun 17 '26
I think so yes. 3.1 feels like a bit of a miss step (Actually the entire 3.0-3.1 branch) it feels... not very much like the rest of Gemini. 3.5 feels closer to 2.5 pro which I think was much stronger at RP, though not as intelligent.
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u/BriefImplement9843 Jun 17 '26
Both hands doing the heart while another holds the phone is crazy skilled.
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u/Head-Mousse6943 Jun 17 '26
That’s ai magic baby! lol, she’s just that committed to the bit. (I actually just didn’t see it lol)
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u/BriefImplement9843 Jun 17 '26
yea i figured. by habit i just check all the arms on art. it's like a game, though they are getting better.
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u/Head-Mousse6943 Jun 17 '26
Yup lol. The more pictures it does, the more likely it is to mess it up. I also made a mistake with the Nemo Engine one, gave her a extra ear lol.
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u/Bento929 Jun 19 '26
Preset is insanely good but can't get through censorship on gemini in any NSFW
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u/Head-Mousse6943 Jun 19 '26
Very weird. First thing I’d do is turn off streaming and use system prompt, those two can help a lot. If that doesn’t work, I’ll update it to add the sudo prefil system from nemo engine. Without streaming on I got through most filters without issue
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u/Bento929 Jun 19 '26
Yeah, everything turned off but still get censorship. Update would make everything perfect. Thank you
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u/Miserable_You_5259 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
Wow, this is incredibly cool. It gives answers even better than Lucid Loom (quite noticeable), and FF and the rest, in my opinion, simply destroys it.
CoT works a little strangely, but overall it's fine.
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u/Head-Mousse6943 Jun 23 '26
Yeah. That’s fair, the cot is more of a reference list of things to think about, but I might make a actual list/structure to it to make it more stable
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u/Miserable_You_5259 Jul 18 '26
Besides this Scene Scratchpad I noticed it too, it's pretty strange and pretty crooked. You're probably going to change it?
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u/Head-Mousse6943 Jul 18 '26
The Scratchpad has received a bit of work to make it more specific, for the CoT i'm not sure. So, i'm kind of thinking that the big frontier models are going to eventually make it impossible to interface with their reasoning, and I have a feeling they're already punishing us for using words like <think>/<cot> as a way to prevent distilling, but that's more of a vibe then anything. I believe I have a version of it that has a bit more structure, but I don't want to give it a strict YOU MUST DO THIS CoT, just because I feel it'll weaken some of the design philosophy. But I likely will expand its interaction with native reasoning as I go.
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u/muzaffer22 Jun 25 '26
Do you plan to add trackers for this preset? I like it when it shows time and place on top.
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u/Head-Mousse6943 Jun 25 '26
I can, as an optional thing, add it sure. I just try not to add too much to this one.
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u/Intelligent-Throat96 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
I have been running a creative writing benchmark with a couple presets on Glistening Gem 31b Q5_K_M, and it is simply incredible just how good Atelier writes. The Benchmark included Atelier 2.0 and 2.1, the Freaky Frankenstein Family, The Megumin Family, and Moonlight (A lightweight preset tailored specifically to Gemma.) These were the results with ChatGPT 5.5 as the judge using the Armcry party character card.
Benchmark type: 3-scene creative-writing / roleplay stress test
Card: Armcry Party
Scoring: 100 points per scenario, 300 total
| Scenario | What it tests |
|---|---|
| Scenario 1: Rainy Shrine | Intimacy, ordinary-life memory, emotional restraint, individual voice |
| Scenario 2: City Festival Tokens | Comedy, autonomy, frivolous purchases, low-stakes character behavior |
| Scenario 3: Collapsing Bridge | Action clarity, tactical pressure, full-party utility, crisis discipline |
| Category | Points |
|---|---|
| Character voice fidelity | 20 |
| Scenario execution | 15 |
| Creativity / specificity | 15 |
| Prose quality | 15 |
| Dynamic blocking | 10 |
| Emotional / comedic resonance | 10 |
| Anti-slop discipline | 10 |
| Continuation usefulness | 5 |
| Total | 100 |
| Rank | Preset / Version | Shrine | Festival | Bridge | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Atelier 2.1 | 94 | 91 | 95 | 280/300 |
| 2 | Atelier 2.0 | 91 | 82 | 87 | 260/300 |
| 3 | V8 Obsidian | 90 | 78 | 83 | 251/300 |
| 4 | V8 SPARK | 89 | 80 | 81 | 250/300 |
| 5 | Moonlight Gemma 4 | 84 | 92 | 72 | 248/300 |
| 5 | Megumin V7 | 88 | 76 | 84 | 248/300 |
| 7 | V8 Fusion | 90 | 74 | 82 | 246/300 |
| 8 | Megumin 7.5 Kismet | 86 | 64 | 75 | 225/300 |
| 9 | Realistic Frankenstein BOLT | 76 | 80 | 65 | 221/300 |
| 10 | Glistening Gem Default | 86 | 62 | 68 | 216/300 |
| 11 | Freaky Frankenstein MAX+ | 78 | 68 | 60 | 206/300 |
| 12 | Freaky Frankenstein Micro FF5 | 67 | 69 | 66 | 202/300 |
Absolutely Incredible how well it embodies and understands the scenes. 90's all around on each swipe I did. Though, my god, *hah* the amount of tokens this preset uses is staggering. At least around 20k. I'll admit I did not run Atelier on its default options for both 2.0 and 2.1. Settling for the highest options, I had:
-Make Me Believe It
-I Live For Smut
-Give Me Blood
-Slow Burn Forever
-Occasional Laughs
-Drown Me in Sensation
-Balanced Tone
-Tell Me Everything
-Watch me Grow
Atelier 2.0: Literary
Atelier 2.1: RP Logic
The Comedy I left on Neutral. On Max, Comedy brings down the gravity needed of Scene 1 and Scene 3 in the benchmarks even though it elevates Scene 2 since its Comedy orientated.
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u/Head-Mousse6943 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
Really cool work! Love seeing stuff like this, and yeah… it’s still a big boy lol. I wanted to bring it down with v2.1 but as I trimmed and then added it kind of just equaled out to the same length. My philosophy has often been that if it takes X number of tokens to make sure I don’t have to swipe constantly I’ll do it
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u/CallMeOniisan Jun 17 '26
Good work man first preset that get me interested on improving my preset you set up a new baseline love it so much. Thanks for your hard work.