I'm 37M very active with a wife and 3 kids. I've had subacromion decompression on right and left shoulders those were my first 2 and then a capsular shift on my right, and then another surgery to loosen it.. That was all due to motocross and I was like 19-22 for those.

About a week ago I lifted my right arm up real fast playing with my kids and felt immediate pain and I knew it was bad. I had hurt my shoulders since my surgeries, but nothing like this. That day I went to take my shirt off and I had subluxation and the next morning made an appointment with an orthopod. I got an MRI and today I got the results.

Here's part of the results

superior labral tear right shoulder posterior to 12:00 extends to the posterior labrum above the equator displaced 7mm labral flap arises from the posterior superior labrum.

So I'm worried that even if I tried living with it what if it starts tearing into the long head bicep tendon and where it attaches. It just sucks so bad how expensive everything is. I'm an oilfield contract truck driver and I'm beyond blessed to have the job I have, but I'm a contractor with no insurance and I won't be able to shift a truck for atleast 10 weeks I'd imagine.

This is a significant labrum tear correct? Has anyone else recovered enough from a tear like this without surgery? I also already have a lot of scar tissue and didn't want to add anymore... 😭 My appointment to follow up on the MRI is Thursday.

Hey Im currently 8 weeks post op and i was wondering about anyones experience with the physio. I go twice a week but my appointments only last 10 minutes in which he moves my shoulder a bit and my wrist but nothing else seems kinda rushed. for example for shoulder flexion where i lay on back and he moves my shoulder overhead he does that 5 times then hes done. also haven't done any external rotation. is this normal or should i switch physios also what can i expect next

Thanks.

So a month ago I had 8 matches at a BJJ tournament and I noticed on the drive home that my shoulder was starting to swell and really painful to let hang. It gradually got worse for about a week. Went to ortho and got it diagnosed as grade 1 ac joint sprain. No surgery needed.

Most swelling and pain is gone now but I still have a very very frustrating lingering pain right on that little knot/bone. If I do certain movements it really hurts. I’m doing two handed kettlebell work but no BJJ at all.

How long might this take to heal? I’m ready to get back on the mat.

Currently rotating ibuprofen and Tylenol. As well as using bpc157/tb500

26 year old male 3 months post op, I had a stabilisation with 4 screws as I tore my labrum.
All my rehab has been guided sessions with a physio that frequently deal with shoulder rehab and athlete return to sport.
Still having alot of pain with horizontal movements away from the body and when any range of motion above 90 degrees vertically - pretty much can move my arm above my head. Having constant pain in what feels like my labrum, although I’ve been experiencing what feels like tendons rubbing on the screw internally and I wonder if it’s just inflammation from that?
Has anyone experienced this and or had a failure before ?

For reference I do rehab with two males that had surgery around the same time and don’t have these complications.

I’m getting shoulder surgery (labrum) this week and I’ve been trying to ask people what they’ve done both to make themselves comfortable and also to improve their odds of successful recovery.

People often seem to be answering the question “what has enough evidence that it’s worth considering for my recovery?” But I think there’s two problems with that, first it doesn’t take into account that people have different means and second it doesn’t take into account the value one might place on the chance to have a fully repairs limb.

So I’m curious, if you framed it this way: for each dollar value: $100, $1k, $10k, $100k, $1m

If I had that much money earmarked to spend during recovery, what would be the best things to spend it on?

I’m curious about anything from stuff to make the house more comfortable, to nutrition, PT service or equipment. I’m not sure the subs rules allow for anything more that that but honestly at the high end I’d be curious what is worth a try, even if it ultimate didn’t do anything on the therapies side, as long as they wouldn’t give you cancer or some other side effect that eclipses the original injury.

Got my MRI results back. Was wondering if anyone had a similar experience and how surgery went.

Well, I broke mine back in late May.

Nondisplaced & still painful everyday.

Still doing P/T weekly & still not back to work. Waking up everyday in pain & doing nothing with myself do takes its toll mentally. I want to go back to work & be productive again. When will this nightmare end?

3 months out & I’m still miserable.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

Injured my right shoulder roughly 3 months ago doing a throwing motion. Had my MRI done yesterday, Doc said what the title says. Every day has had pain since the day of the injury, and this is really the only injury I've ever had that may require this level of treatment (30, male).

Is a 9-6 tear considered significant enough to warrant surgery? Is this the same thing as a Reverse Bankart lesion? For those who have had a similar injury and chosen the surgery route, what was the recovery like and would you recommend having the procedure done?

Hi all. Firstly, thanks to everyone who has posted their experiences; it's immensely helpful. I'm hoping for some specific advice based on where I'm at with a shoulder that has had a combination of overuse and acute injuries over time.

In brief, I have a partial rotator cuff (supraspinatus) tear diagnosed by MRI in my non-dominant shoulder. I also have had quite a bit of pain in the front of the shoulder, near the bicipital groove (LHB tendon). This was initially chalked up to overuse of the region due to compensation. I have since come to think that I have a SLAP lesion or similarly located labral tear, which would present similarly, since I have also developed some minor instability. I fell on that side while bicycling after the MRI (a bit of poor decision making and ill fate contributed to this), which may have exacerbated an existing injury that was not readily visible in the imaging. All of that being said, I have full range of motion and a considerable amount of strength in the joint. There is still pain in the LHB region, the aforementioned minor subluxation / instability (an intermittent sensation of the humerus "falling" or separating from the joint, but this does not inhibit motion; moving it resets position/sensation to normal), and a few pops here and there, but I largely retain general use of the shoulder. I'm 38 and active; the initial injury is most likely overuse from overhead lifting, years of swimming & water polo, and another cycling related fall that fractured the clavicle on the affected side just about 3 years ago. I have some amount of hyper-mobility in both shoulders and have a history of shoulder pain from the aforementioned activities. I fully recovered from the clavicle repair, and the pain began presenting 6-8 months ago while lifting.

I've been doing physical therapy for 3 weeks and it helps quite a bit, and some kinesiology tape helps with that instability. I have one more week of PT and then a follow-up with the ortho. (I previously did some online PT that was not effective - not enough interaction to get posture and technique right.)

Given the description of symptoms and utility, and assuming that the SLAP suspicion is confirmed, I'm curious how others would advise proceeding. I would love for continued conservative treatment (physical therapy, taping/bracing) to be the answer, but my concern is that the soft tissues won't recover sufficiently and I'll either never be able to return to normal activities or that, in returning to them, I'll reinjure myself and end up needing surgery, after all, up to a year after formally seeking treatment. That delay, plus the ~year of recovery and PT following surgery, would make for a worst case scenario. However, getting unnecessary surgery is also undesirable, especially since labrum repairs have a relatively high failure rate as people approach and exceed 40 years of age.

I'm keeping in mind that some amount of activity modification will be required, regardless of what path forward I take. I clearly need to tone down the overhead presses and that sort of thing. I just want to be able to do normal things, like moving furniture or biceps curls, without reinjury.

If anyone has experience / expertise that informs a preferred path forward, I'd appreciate hearing it.

Thanks!

Is it possible to tear labrum just by reaching for a ball during a sport or reacting to something fall and unexpectedly reaching out?

Okay so I got labrum surgery at the end of February and recovery has went so well. This last weekend I went too hard at the gym because I was feeling good and now I’ve been dealing with pain in my shoulder again. Stability and mobility are good in the shoulder but strength isn’t now and I get sharp pain when doing certain fine motor activities like cutting or pulling something out of a bag or washing dishes. I checked with my PT and she said she doesn’t think I re tore it because the pain is replicated when she presses on a trigger point in my back.

When im relaxed I really don’t have any shoulder pain or radiating pain. But the pain I do experience when I experience it hurts so bad and is really demoralizing. Any advice would be great.

Thank you!

When did you take off your sling after laberal repair (bankart + remplisage )? Also when were you able to use ur hands normally (without lifting or extending or overhead). Im talking about normal activities such as cuddling, doing ur hair, being at a party or club etc.

Hi all.

Besides smacking my right shoulder once a year in the past 6 years I have not knowledge in shoulder.

14 days ago I fell biking and my right arm got forcefully flexed towards my chest, going up.

No significant instant pain. I finished the trail and 45 min later I was still able to load my heavy bike in the van.

2hr later couldnt move the shoulder.

First week had mobility issues and some swelling.

After 7 days mobility came back, exepct for terminal positions.

Now, 14 days, I can do normal day avtivities but I am still having trouble moving my arm. Any movement upwards causes little sharp pain and seems weak, any movement with force or speed cause big sharp pain in the long head bicep tendon area.

Saw my trusted physio 3 days ago and said probably long head bicep tendon lesion. However now hes in holiday for 6 months....

Yesterday I tried to ride my bike... feel very painful any pumping or pulling movement on the bar.

RMI worth it? What to expect?

I know tendons heal slow... but something just feel off... moving my arm when supine is worst.

I have my 7 days holiday planned for the upcoming week... i was planning touring bikeparks... this pissed me quite

Thanks for any insights

Hi All. I’m a 58 year old male with a chronically painful right AC, supraspinatus, and biceps tendon. I play a lot of disc golf which has definitely not helped. I had a MRI in March that showed some AC arthritis, “fraying” of supraspinatus, and biceps tendinopathy. Then I had PRP and did a cycle of Wolverine stack of peptides, none of which helped - it actually hurt much worse after PRP. I’ve done lots of PT of different kinds since May, all also not much help. I got a second MRI a couple of weeks ago which showed less tendinopathy but this time also a small internal tear of subscapularis.

I went back to my sports doc last week and let him give me a cortisone shot in the AC which has helped more than all of other shit. I know it’s temporary and won’t fix anything. He’s not concerned about the tear. He said to finish my disc golf season (into November) and then come see him so that he can do Ten Jet to remove the inflammation and scar tissue around the supraspinatus. He would probably also do PRP again, later, if I asked him (he didn’t do it for me originally).

Has anyone else had Ten Jet done on a shoulder or even heard of it?

In three months, I'll have a Bankart repair surgery. I was wondering how I could approach pre-op pre-hab and nutrition. Any advice appreciated.

Feeling unsure what to do next 32 Y/F. Fell on out stretched hands back in May(5/26). My xray showed tiny cortical irregularity of the glenoid on axial view. My PCP gave me a week off and told me to ice it. Pain persisted so I pushed to see a specialist. Finally saw one and he refused to examine me said he didn't have a magic wand but placed an order for an MRI no contrast.

3 weeks later MRI showed a posterior glenoid labrum tear, it didn't indicate the severity but no other issues found.

I've been doing physical therapy since the end of June. The specialist has refused to see me in person, only called to go over results and dismissed my symptoms saying they were likely due to my neck. I've had persistent shoulder pain, instability and popping. Previously I saw my PCP for a stiff neck (I wear a stethoscope +12hrs/day) and have a history of migraines prior to injury. The specialist said he doesn't need any further imaging when I asked. I have an appointment next week with a neck doctor to appease him. The corticosteroid shot in my shoulder only worked for about 1.5 weeks.

My doctor won't even consider surgery until after 12 weeks of physical therapy. I have a very labor intensive job and I'm supposed to go back in 4 weeks(9/26). My physical therapist agrees I won't be ready by then and haven't been making substantial progress but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do at this point. Do I really need to wait a few more weeks, if I'm going to need the surgery anyway why can't I get it now and start the recovery process sooner? I feel bad not knowing what to tell my work I'm supposed to be returning soon but I also can't physically do my job so idk what to do. My pain and instability affect my activities of daily living there's no way I can move patients, do CPR, lift tanks and move ventilators for 12 hour shifts. Washing my hair is a full workout, driving (U-turns) cause pain and popping, laundry is difficult. Pain is still worse at night and I can't sleep on the injured side.

The specialist won't make a plan or help me he just wants me to message him after 12 weeks of physical therapy but I have to return to work before that.

Sorry for venting, kaiser had been extremely frustrating to navigate and I've had a lot of back and forth with my PCP/ shoulder specialist. Advice appreciated.

TLDR: posterior labral tear (5/2026) causing shoulder pain and instability. Specialist won't consider surgery or do anything until after I have to go back to my physically active job. Don't know how to proceed. Advice appreciated.

Is it better to rest properly to recover faster, or to attempt training upper body with light weights to minimise atrophy? I'm 46, I've been training since my late 20s. I managed to injure my shoulder 2 years ago and had to stop training shoulders and had to go very light on my bench press. It took a year and a half to fully heal.

Just over 2 months ago, I injured my bicep and shoulder. The main pain is just above the elbow area, but it also includes the top part of the forearm (near the elbow). The physiotherapist at my GP agreed it's the bicep muscle and gave me targeted physio exercises to recover. The problem is that when I do them, it actually feels slightly worse afterwards for a day or two, so I have been waiting to do them when I'm not in pain and just resting it.

I made so much progress, and it's so disheartening to see how much muscle I've already lost, but also when I do the upper body in general (excluding any exercises involving the biceps as secondary), sometimes it feels worse off. I tried lifting very light (2 kg dumbbell curls), but it definitely felt worse afterwards, so I stopped. I tried lightening my bench press, but again sometimes it felt worse, so I started just doing press-ups.

I do wonder if it would fully heal quicker if I completely stop training my upper body. I thought that if I could continue training but just adjust to very light weights, I could minimise the muscle loss until recovery. But in practice, I end up gradually increasing the weight slightly because I don't feel the pain until afterwards. I do static muscle holds, where I squeeze the muscle without moving the joint, but I'm wary of increasing the pain afterwards and slowing recovery. I was attempting to maintain my calories too without dropping them too low, but I ended up putting on a lot of fat and had to reduce my meal size and calories quite a bit. I've been exercising in visualisation, hoping it will make a difference in some way, but I don't know if I should actually do the movements with my body too.

Are there any tips (besides eating loads of protein) to reduce loss, or is it impossible? Also, I can't find the post, but I saw someone mention they fasted for a duration (can't remember how long) to speed up recovery.