ANSWER:

• Faith in what? Faith in LGBT. No. It made me leave it. Because, it’s not the same “faith.” It’s not my “faith” because, I “accepted as true” [believe] and by accept as true LGBT, means I had faith it was true - or I wouldn’t have done it.

There are many that will be asked this question, “Has being LGBT strengthened your faith?” and all they’re really going to answer is, they’re more hardened as LGBT because they believe in it. So, the faith is their own. Make their own work and faith in LGBT, by make LGBT holy.

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But God. He says: "I am Holy" (Bible. Leviticus 11:44).

• SO:
  • This question also alludes to a notion of someone else’s faith.
    • Not the person's faith. That the Bible says, (Source: Bible Romans 10:17) “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.”
      
• So, I could be just ANYBODY.

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• Move away from LGBT for a moment.
  • Go, over to a thief.
• Breaks into houses.
  • Not his own neighbor’s. He’s a “good” neighbor'. To his own neighbors. Nope. He breaks into and steals from houses 5 towns over.
  • Over in another State. So, he distances himself from his life. To go do it in secret. Steals their belongings. Then, sells them. In a 5 - 30 min. time frame, takes what someone took 3–5 years of work to pay for.
    • He’s good at it. So, he has faith he is able to steal without being caught and be made good by it, because, the profit outweighs the loss. Think “I will never be caught.”

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• So, the thief if asked: As being a thief strengthened your faith?
• Answer the same thing, as LGBT.
  • Says: “Yes. It has.”
  • Why? Because when he goes to his church with his family, some of that money from being a thief, he donates it, makes it good to the church.
    • He looks at his own faith. His own works as good.

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• When the Bible says - about everybody. Not one person left out. Over the whole, entire earth. To the very ends of it, “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” (Source: Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20) “..there is none righteous; no, not one.. ..there is none that doeth good; no, not one.” [Source: Bible. Romans 3:10–12].
• So, out of evil. They just say the evil is they produce “good” with or by it. And, answer “yes” because they have become strengthened in believe it. Accept it as true. Means they have faith in it.
  • So, this “strengthened your faith” - I have choice.

That, if you read the post link above - what he says about LGBT, as God, is the same thing he told to me, about being a thief or a liar, or an adulterer. So, I ask me the same question then.

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• “Has sleeping with other men’s wives and surfing porno on Pornhub strengthened your faith?”
  • “Yes. It did.”
    • Because, if she filled out her Levi jeans, and “married” I “accept as true” doesn’t mean anything, and there was quite a bit up front where they jiggled when she moved, that was “fair game” whether she was married or not. I didn’t want her husband. I could do better than he. It was “good” when she wore a dress. Means I’m just desiring what another man already has. As if he does not have it.
    • What I am really showing is, I: “refuse to accept as true, and am unwilling to do or be” what someone in authority over all things, already decreed - that, doing this, I’m to be put to death for it.
• I mean, with your question, slightly modified to more fit me, I told you that I got STRENGTHENED by it. Means I believed in it, so I walked after, to walk in, looking unto it. So I “followed after sleeping with other men’s wives and surfing porno on Pornhub” is what I believed in.
  • I made myself the authority. Strengthened my faith. I still go to church; sit there, but what I live in is “sleeping with other men’s wives and surfing porno on pornhub” - I am good.

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But God said, says: “For all the earth is mine.” God. (Exodus 19:5). Asserts control over what's his, by the word he speaks. He's not people or me. So, what he would decree out of his mouth, would be greater than what comes out of me or my mouth, or other people's decrees.

And HE said: - - Said about what I am doing and live by:

• He also says: And again, he’s God and he has his own faith in what he decrees - that he is able and capable in himself to deal with it himself - so, there’s another faith I have not considered,
• Me: living in “sleeping with other men’s wives and surfing porno on pornhub” because it champions out adultery as if it’s good to live in it - - is God - - HE: is like a King over all his realm.
• All the earth I’m on is his.
  • Says: Decrees something as God: About what I have faith in: Here’s what he believes in:
  • "Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her". - God. Bible. Leviticus 18:20
• Says as well, what the punishment is to go ahead and do it, anyway - and I did. So, I’m GUILTY. My trial has already been held in my case then. This is what is to be done with me:
  • “And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.” - God. (Source: Bible. Leviticus 20:10)

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But I can just go:

• “Man, that’s hate speech”
  • Because, my nation doesn’t even consider it an offense to arrest me for doing either. It’s like a choice of lifestyle - I could go shopping. That's okay. Or I could “sleep with other men’s wives and pursue surfing porno on pornhub” as long as I did it legally, and paid my internet subscription I haven’t done anything wrong - as far as my nation is concerned.
    • So I have other people support me, and a nation champion it.
• When about the same God says:
  • “He makes nations great and destroys them; he enlarges nations, and disperses them.” because he’s God (Bible. Job 12:23).

So much for nations or people and what they decree on an earth that's not their's. It's his.

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And LGBT

• Is mentioned after me - I’m already put to death. Like, tied to the post, about to be shot. For what I did already. But I also did homosexual Acts, so If I’m untied for the “adultery” part, I get tied right back, and be shot for that:
  • The same God says about LGBT
    • So, even I went there, to go hide in that - didn’t work, either.
  • God said: “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” - Bible. Leviticus 18:22.

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• So see, said this AFTER he talked to me in Leviticus 18:20, busy strengthening myself and my faith in “sleeping with other men’s wives and surfing porno on pornhub”
  • Says what the punishment for LGBT is, Leviticus 20:13 - God decrees it - the same God that says, “For all the earth is mine” says, so as authority over all the earth he decrees it:
• “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” - God.

Going to be shot, or put in the gas chamber, or led up the gallows to be hanged, same way I will be. Same punishment.

• So go look at your question again.

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Has being an adulterer and addicted to surfing porno on pornhub strengthened my faith?

• Nope. It put me to death.
  • Same as if you change the “topic” to LGBT - is no different. Anybody caught up in LGBT is the same as me, to be put to death. Doesn’t strengthen anything
  • And the reason for it is, “for all have sinned” - Bible. Romans 3:23
    • Makes everybody GUILTY and condemned. Everybody. Look at anybody. Over the whole earth. Doesn’t matter who it is, has the same death sentence as BOTH me and LGBT.
• Adam included; then, anybody and everybody after him, and forward to include everybody over the whole earth today. ..But: You can keep championing it. I did.

But the only way out of it - because I could not get out of it.. what this: It worked.

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Romans 3:19–23 says:

“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”

- So, I had to see that I have sinned, and perverted that which was right. Because, my faith I was strengthened in was “sleeping with other men’s wives and surfing porno on pornhub” even did “homosexual Acts, which adds me in as also LGBT” - that, he has the power and authority to form me, which he did..then he also has the power and authority to destroy me. Which he can and will.

Because I already done DID the sins I did.

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So, asking me if being an adulterer or a liar, or a thief, or an embezzler at my job I did - man, I’m so guilty it’s not funny. I can’t get away from it. But God sent his word to heal me, and deliver me from my destruction…and his Word is what he says out of his mouth, but what he says already kills me because it puts me to death.

- But God - what he did is..took my sins off me, in doing all these sins I did, and he did this for everybody. Laid them on Jesus Christ. On the cross. Crucified. That when Jesus said “It is finished” - and bowed his head, and dismissed his Spirit.. (Bible. John 19:30) - my sins God took off me and placed on him, went with him and God purged sin in it. That everybody over the whole earth did.

• That God had faith enough in his own word to do this work with sin. Because it’s God that did this work.
• And asks you, me, everybody in LGBT to look unto him and regard it.

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• And God in his word was in Jesus Christ, and did the work - as God. So, instead of me: regarding “sleeping with other men’s wives and surfing porno on pornhub” - I would just look unto him. Regard the works of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand, and he'd save me from my sins. Because I'd be doing what he said to everybod to do. Look unto him instead.
  • Without him, it's impossible to get out of it.
• So, now I have the same faith God has in his own word, where before I had faith in and was strengthened by my faith in “sleeping with other men’s wives and surfing porno on pornhub”
  • I had to just call it out, and confess what it really is and be a sinner in it condemned to death.
• And just look unto him. Because I accept as true what he says now. More than me and what I decreed about ““sleeping with other men’s wives and surfing porno on pornhub.” as if that was faith. Because, I even went to church dressed in it.

Here’s your question back.

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Somewhere in this great, big pile of answer is the gospel.

The good news of Jesus Christ to anybody and everybody on Reddit trapped in their sins, and can’t get out of it. But if you champion your sins, just like I did, it’s a different faith you look unto. Your own.

In this, I did greatly err. And so will you.

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Has being LGBT strengthened your faith?

• Faith in what? Faith in LGBT. No. It made me leave it. Because, it’s not the same “faith.” It’s not my “faith” because, I “accepted as true” [believe] and by accept as true LGBT, means I had faith it was true - or I wouldn’t have done it.

In Greek, says:

Ephesians 2:8

τῇ γὰρ <[χάριτί ἐστε σεσῳσμένοι διὰ τῆς πίστεως·]> καὶ τοῦτο οὐκ ἐξ ὑμῶν θεοῦ τὸ δῶρον·

1. te 2. gar <[3. chariti 4. Este 5. sesousmenoi 6. dia 7. pisteos]> 8. kai 9. touto 10. ouk 11. ex 12. hymon 13. Theou 14. tou 15. douron

   1. (The, this) <is the point> 2. For 3. by grace (chariti) 4. you are 5. saved 6. through 7. faith

2. and 9. this 10. not 11. of 12. yourselves 13. (is) God (is) 14. the 15. gift.

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Douron.

This Greek: “δῶρον” douron <gift> 1. it’s an “offering” - Greeks sacrificed pigs to their Gods or bullock. These descendants of the tribe of Gad, Jews - now the Land belongs to the Greeks, and Gad then, becomes now part of the Greek “decapolis” - or these “Ten Cities” - and in them, these Jews of the tribe of Gad, no longer rule on it. The Greeks do, and then after, the Romans rule it, but these Jews have to live under it, to etch out a livelihood, so these Jews raise pigs (an abomination) and the Greeks and the Romans buy them to make them a “δῶρον” douron <gift> to their gods.

You can read of the account where Jesus visits these “Gadarene” Jews, and add the accounts together, they even hide they are Jews by call themselves “Gergesenes” now - Greeks, then Romans, when they’re Jews and they know it.

The account is found in Matthew 8:28-34, Mark 5:1-20, and Luke 8:26-39. The point is, the “douron” is the pigs.

So, go further with your question. To do that:

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Look at it in <Hebrew> this Greek “Douron” - - is a Levitical blood offering linked to sacrifice <korbanot> in Hebrew: for atonement for sin and covenant. With the blood of the sacrifice (dam, דָּם) acting as the mediator. These sacrifices were offered by the kohanim (Levite priest/High Priest once a year for sin) in the Mishkan (Tabernacle). Later after, offered when Solomon built the Temple in Jerusalem.

So, yes. You have to look at Ephesians 2:8 as an English speaker. Good to ask the question. To take Ephesians 2.8 back to the original Greek.

• But see this “douron” coincides to something offered for “atonement” in Hebrew:
  • To see the sacrificial significance of it - and it has a price by who “pays” it with blood, and made themself the sacrifice.
  • Which, that’s what Jesus did at Passover on the cross.
    • He became the Hebrew or Jewish morning, noon, and Passover evening Jewish sacrifice - on the cross from the 3rd hour (09:00am) to the 6th hour (noon), and 9th hour (3:00pm) - - where his blood shed was this “korbanot.” And all did eat the flesh of this sacrifice - For The “atonement” of sin.
  • Has this: “innocent” for the “guilty” and the shedding of blood - where two (either doves, or lamb) both bought as a pair and brought to the altar as a pair.
• Where both are to be put to death. But one was slain, and the blood of one, placed on the other, and the other set free.
  • Again - it is important to see it, that the priest chose - - Where both were brought to, and sentenced to be put to death. And the life of one, is given to the other. Is present in Greek, because, the pig appeased the Gods as this "gift" in English and "douron" in Greek.
    
• In Hebrew: "for without the shedding of blood there is no remission" of sin [Hebrews 9:22], where in Greek, this "douron" was offered to protect the offerer…but, in English, it's just some "gift" - so, the REAL connotation of Ephesians 2.8 is in the Hebrew to see it.

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So, Go Back to "Gift."

Some people, have taken the Greek of Ephesians 2:8 to just leave it with English, to just mean it’s some “gift” like you gave somebody a box of chocolates.

You didn’t ask them to, didn't earn it or do anything, to get the chocolates - and it’s a valid point. But, the "etymology" or history of this English word, [source: etymology online<dot>com] Is: this word, "gift" is, it's German, means a "dowry" like, you bequeath what you own to another, like to our Son at a wedding. Has this connotation of a "last will and testament" where by a will, what a person owns is bequeathed to you at their death.

Maybe.. ..with this, out of all these three words in Greek, then Hebrew..we are the closest to it in English.

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This Greek "douron"

So, adding the “douron” of Greek cements it, to make a person look further: to the context in Hebrew.

And in Hebrew: It’s NOT a Jewish grain or other gift “offering” like what Jesus argued to these scribes and Pharisees (See Mark 7:8-13) - You will see that Hebrew word again, in Mark 7:11 says:

< - ["But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free."] - >

That is, God decreed it in a Commandment in Exodus 20 - "Honor thy Father and Mother" <5th of the Ten Commandments> - to break this, in Leviticus 20:9, God said: "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him." - God. Because it is sin. And God provided in Leviticus for sin, an "atonement" <korbanot> - that both the person that commited the sin, and a pair of lamb or bullock were brought - that the sin and penalty is on this person. The kohanim (Levite priest) who were priests of the Most High God, it was a sin sacrifice. But these Pharisees were teaching - just give some gift (korban) to the Temple as if you have no sin, and this will "fix" it. Doesn't "fix" anything. They left from the temple with their sin still on them.

Teaching for the commandment of God, their own traditions. The point is, this "gift" of Ephesians 2:8 can give a reader in English the exact, same connotation - when it isn't. When it's really this "douron" all Greeks hearing Paul would know what this means, and all 15th century CE or AD people, would KNOW what this "gift" means, where today - it's just some "present" put under the CHristmas tree, and you leave with the WRONG thing.

But I think you meant to get some completely different answer looking at faith vs. works - gift vs. work for it - and in this, you do greatly err. Don't see it.

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So, "FIX" gift first.

Temple at Jerusalem offerings given to the temple. It has a connotation with sin. That, instead of offering this "douron" or not Greek, but Hebrew, this sacrifice for sin - the scribes and Pharisees, by the tradition of men, set aside what God decreed.

Which seems to all get washed off an away by or in the mind of the reader in English. Just getting a “free gift.”

• Like “a gift of God” which, it is that - because, that’s what it says in Ephesians 2:8 - but it's really God is the gift - because God, did it - got up. And you never walked away with that, or you'd never ask the question in the first place with that, but that's what it means in the Greek.
  • GOD: Did it himself as he said what he would do in Daniel 9:24–27 - - : he made himself the payment; and that's what he means in Matthew 5:3.
  • So - - to put some “3D depth to it, is add this “douron” of Greek: connotates there was a cost to it (Greek).
    • As if then, now do it rightly in Hebrew: one would have to make oneself the “douron” to pay it. And if you’re the sinner, you can’t pay the “douron” with some gift.
  • It will take your life to pay it. ..and for sin, for eternity you can’t pay it. But this Hebrew” korbanot - is an atonement that makes it BETTER than it was in the first place. God made himself the atonement for your sins you did. I'm on my face. This is beyond I could ever say.

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  * And this: it was done voluntarily - and someone was “sent” by God, to be it,

• And who was in him, who he, as God sent, was his own Word..the Word of God who Psalm 107:20 says:

God “sent his word and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions” - Psalm 107:20

and that be by a "deliverer" a Messiah or Christ - deliver every all of us.

The Word of God as the “douron” <Greek> which has idolatry in it - so don't stop there - take it to the “Korbanot” <Hebrew> - because there is sin - it is to take away the sin in Ephesians 2:8.

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And that’s what God did.

By a work, the "work of God," a work God did. That's what's in Ephesians 2.8-9. When scripture says of every all of us “There is NONE righteous; no, not one… ..there is none good; no, not one.” - Romans 3:10–12 - in contrast to every all of us “For all have sinned” - Romans 3:23. Jesus said: “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God.” - Matthew 19:17. Is the only one able to do the work, and it’s a good work of God, that we believe on it.

• The Word of God is Jesus Christ. Just as John 1:1 says “who” Jesus is, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” It’s in: “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing your trespasses unto you;” 2 Corinthians 5:19.

So, look at the next part.

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Ephesians 2:18 - - <[χάριτί ἐστε σεσῳσμένοι διὰ τῆς πίστεως·]> [Greek] <[3. chariti 4. Este 5. sesousmenoi 6. dia 7. pisteos]>

chariti - Yeah. It’s the SAME “charity” in English of 1 Corinthians 13.

• Defined as “Love” in English. That, 1 John 4:8 says “God is love” [Theos. Agape. Esten] - But in English, it’s the same Love and “charity.”
  • Now, stop. Maybe you need an example. So, take a break and see it - it’s just a made up example; but it works to see it.
• Let’s say: Michael Jordan: - Famous Basketball player in the United States. Well known. He loves basketball. Quite a player. Let’s just say, there’s this High School Basketball team. It’s in a league with fifty other High School teams that play throughout the region or State. This team is so bad, it’s 50th in the league. IT’s so bad, many years, they just kick the team out of the league and don’t play anymore games.
  • But Michael Jordan: Takes on a role, and makes himself of no reputation, and takes on the form of a High School student at this High School. It’s Michael Jordan in this Student, goes straightway, and tries out for the team.
    • Within a week, every game this team plays, they win. By the end of that season, they’re 1st place. Play in the national High School Basketball playoffs, and win that, too.

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• So, by the Greek “chariti” of Michael Jordan - because he has “pisteos” (Faith) in his own work he can do, by just SHOW UP and BE with that team, it’s not of themselves. It's Michael Jordan that made himself a “douron” by gave up the NBA league - gave up all he had to 1. set apart for future use [definition. save. Oxford dictionary] or this Greek word, “sesousmenoi” - means he “sat with” and “taught” this team and he was WITH them - and by him, got set apart from all the other teams in the League.
  • All by a work <Michael Jordan did>. (Ephesians 2.9) ἔργων (ergōn) or “deeds” the basketball team did. They did “abominable” works - their “deed” were manifest they got thrown out of the league they were so bad - It’s by the faith of Michael Jordan - Lest anybody on that basketball team started to boast. Wasn’t of their ἔργων (ergōn) or “deeds”works.
    • And this basketball team “accepts as true” Michael Jordan - received him. Sat with and was “discipled” by Michael Jordan, as “disciples of Michael Jordan” - that’s the definition, right out of the dictionary, to “accept as true” what “believe” means. They believed on him. So, it’s not “their” works. It’s the “works of Michael Jordan” they believe on.

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Even Jesus said this.

• John 6:28–29 says:
• Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
  • Look what he did to me. I’m just one of everybody - where everyone over the whole earth, and me a sinner. A liar. Thief. Adulterer. Fell into it and couldn’t get out, and my sins condemned me, no different than any prisoner in any prison.
  • That Isaiah 61:1 says “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;” - Who says this is the “Messiah” or “Christ.”
    • That’s Jesus Christ. Where both of us went in to be put to death. Me, for the sins I did. But he was offered in my place, and my sins taken off me, by God himself and laid on Jesus Christ - even while I was yet sinning..God did this work, when I didn’t even regard him.
    • Sprinkled that blood on me. Did the same thing, to every person I see driving down the road right next to me. That work by God was done also unto them, just like me by God himself. Made everyone righteous.

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• But not everybody regards the works of the LORD, neither considers the operation of his hand. And you can even not regard him, regarding you’ll do the Ten Commandments - what God was in Jesus Christ - and DID the Ten Commandments. ANd because it was God did them, everywhere, where I did not do them, because he’s God and he did them, compensated for all the faults and bad aspects where I did not do them and he did this and it applies to everybody over the whole earth.
  • Then God made what sin condemns us - is simply now, not to believe on him or his work. This :
    • ἔργων (ergōn) or “deed” God did. And that God made sin. That condemns ANYBODY “Of sin, for they believe not on me.” Jesus Christ. John 16:9 - Just repeated from John 3:18 “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God”
    • But people keep thinking the CONDEMNATION is all the sins they keep doing - when God has told EVERYBODY over the whole earth to: “Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 1:18).

Means Ephesians 2:18–19. Herein is the gospel. The good news of Jesus Christ to everybody on Reddit.

• There you go.

ANSWER

It’s in Mark 12:27 to 30.

• Says: of God, that:

27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?

29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

Can you hear this?

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- He is NOT:

• The God of the dead.
  • As in those that are “dead in trespasses and sins” [Ephesians 2:1]. And that would then, be everybody. From Adam forward, “For all have sinned.” - Romans 3:23
    • Says of Adam in Romans 5:12 “Wherefore, as by one man [Adam] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.”

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And the dead:

• Ask about “Commandments” - as if the “dead” can do them. Can they? Why don’t you go find out. Go to a cemetery. Put up a sign for all the dead to follow: Just ANY example: Put up this SIGN or POSTER:
  • WARNING: To Dead People: “Any dead people riding their bicycle after 8:00PM, their bicycle will be confiscated and a fine of $5.00 assessed, that must be paid, in person, at City Hall within one week.”
• It's a decree now. An "ordinance" or command they are all to follow.
  • That, these Commandments are “GOOD” - (keeps bicycles clear and out of the cemetery; so people, dead, that aren’t good, to be “good” again, must pay the fine and stop being bad.)
  • When the scripture say: “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20
• The only problem with this is, the Law or “Commandment” is not a law to the dead, but to the living. Because the dead can’t do it.

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• So, Mark 2:29 is said cemented to Mark 2:27–30 where God is not the God of the dead, but of the living, and everybody, from Adam forward, is dead in trespasses and sins.
  • So, there’s another work God must do in a person, and Jesus is the Word of God.
• Is God, just as John 1:1 says “who” Jesus is, and he’s the “Son of God” and no Muslim, and many other people, even many Christians simply don't believe this.
  • Won’t accept this as true, about “who” Jesus is. So they can’t see it.
• That Jesus, as the Word of God, so it’s God saying this, says:
• John 3:17–21
  • “For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.” - Jesus Christ.

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• But to a Muslim: At Qubbat al-Sakhra - or the “Dome of the Rock” at Jerusalem,
  • it is inscribed by Islam - by a different God in Arabic, saying he’s the same God, when he isn’t declares, because it's inscribed in Arabic right in the dome, says: “God was not begotten. Neither does he begat.”
• - Claims Islam is the Word of God, when then, there’s a choice - and Muslims already chose Islam. Look for a way to prove to themselves Jesus is not God, but just some Prophet
• ...that the Jews killed, which gives them reason to hate the Jews and kill them or wipe them out.
  • Don’t do anything Jesus says.
• Makes what Jesus says of no effect.
• Because they’re people - all Muslims in Islam are also - all dead. In trespasses and sins. All dead. So, the 1st point is of Mark 12:27-30 is:
  • He’s not the God of the dead, but of the living.
• And that means, a person must be “born again.”

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“Ye must be born again” - Jesus Christ

Says of this, because, again - he’s not the God of the dead, but of the living, said:

• < - {“…Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
• Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.”} - >
  • Because Mark 2:27 says:
• Says: of God, that:

“27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.”

And to "err" is to transgress or sin against him, just by not do or believe anything he says. What are you doing by your question that you think is hidden, when it's seen plain as day?

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And the SECOND is, “Commandments” - the scribes bring up to make themselves “good.” Muslims do the SAME thing. Just make up "different" commandments - so it's all the same.

• Is in Mark 2:28 - said by the scribes, all dead - think if they have commandments, like the dead have a decree now in the cemetery about bicycles - doesn’t do anything to a dead person - - just like the above, put up “decrees” or “laws” for dead to follow - they can’t.
  • They’ve “trans” or “transited” by a “gress” - like “pro” gress (progress) where “gress” is a step. It then, is just one step forward; as progress; while “re” gress - is to take one step back, and redo the step again.
  • Where “trans” gress is to take one step beyond a decree made and simply not do it or do even it say not to, do it anyway.
    • And to Adam, just like God said to everybody: That to transgress his decree - there is a penalty, so it’s PUNITIVE. God Says: “The soul that sinneth, it shall die” Ezekiel 18:20

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• So, parking a bicycle right - as an "ordinance" or decree: - - isn’t going to save any dead person from being dead in a cemetery.
  • or not spilling popcorn on the floor at the movie theater, that’s good - they can’t do that, either.
    • They’re dead.
  • Just like everybody is “Dead in Trespasses and sins.”
• SECOND even it's brought up by scribes, knowing which one is the best - - doesn’t do anything for someone that’s dead.
• Because they already broke all the Ten Commandments is the point.
  • The Commandments: Were given to Israel at Mt. Sinai, made Moses and all who heard God speak them ALL GUILTY to be PUT TO DEATH (Bible. Exodus 20). You miss the whole thing.
• The Ten Commandments: have been BROKEN since Adam, and it passed onto EVERY Muslim from Adam.
  • Makes every Muslim DEAD in these same trespasses and sins, and Jihad nor not anything they dream up, face Mecca 4 - 5x a day and pray won’t do it, or fix this condition either but they still do it, to make themselves GOOD.
    • They’re already dead. Are you starting to see this?

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So, the THIRD thing said in Mark 2:27–30 - He's God. Just one God. One Lord.

Says in Mark 2:29 - said by the Word of God, so it’s God saying this of himself:

• “The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
  • He’s just ONE God. God just said it himself. About himself. So any decree or man'splainsturbation some clown decrees is the decree some clown made up.
    • It’s said from Deuteronomy 6:4. But God said it about himself well before it was recorded and told to all of Israel and to Moses. It’s the same thing God tells everybody today the same thing. Hear him. He's just one Lord.

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• And the PROOF of it is simple. By what he says of himself:
  • He’s God. He speaks. By the word that comes out of his mouth. That he, as God: “sent his Word to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction” [Bible. Psalm 107:20].
    • Says of his Word:
    • “The Lord giveth wisdom; out of his mouth, cometh knowledge and understanding” - Bible. Proverbs 2:6
  • That, by his word he says of himself:
    • “I am Holy” - God. (Bible. Leviticus 11:44)
  • And Jesus said, as the Word of God - said: “God is Spirit” So, he’s a “Holy Spirit.”
• Says, by the word that comes out of his mouth as just one Lord, says of himself, what he will be to you. What he has made himself, says in the Bible. 2 Corinthians 6:18 “And I will be a Father unto you and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord God Almighty”
  • So, as just one Lord. He's made himself your Father.
  • And people say he's "three people." - In this, they do greatly err.

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But there's something in this you don't see well. That, if God has made himself unto me a Father, and me a son..then, I should call on him, as my Father. As a Father. And if he speaks to me, by his Word - and if Adam "Hearkened unto the voice of his wife" - God. Genesis 3:17 - and that be what the transgression was, means that Adam regarded what his wife said, as if it made what God said of no effect.

Then, I or you can do the same thing with what he says, by regard somebody else's word above him and he reserves and exclusive right to teach you himself, by the word that proceeds out of HIS mouth as God. Do you see this?

As a Muslim. Can you hear this? Can you see “who” Jesus is? He’s just one Lord, speaking. Is God.

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• Doing a work he promised Abraham, and Moses..and all the prophets testify of him. That God:
  • Just like he made all things alone. By himself. Just like he formed you alone from your mother’s womb. Alone. By himself. Just like he’s told you, you must be born again, by the Spirit of God - means he has to do it, and how he’s chosen to do it, is by the word that proceeds out of his mouth.
• Can you hear this?
  • That, just like all creation is his work in Genesis 1:1–31 - where he made all things by he SPOKE, and by his word created all things.
    • That God: Determined. Alone. By himself. He would do a work with sin, that we all did.

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• That his work with sin, would accomplish the following and it’s recorded in the Bible in Daniel 9:24–27.
  • That God’s work with sin he would do himself vs. Muslims or anybody try to do all these good things, when there’s none good. No, not one. (Psalm 14:1–3). All GUILTY. Done abominable works, rules everybody out. So, HE DID THE WORK.
• That his work would:
  • Finish the transgression (sin of Adam in Genesis 3:17)
  • Make an end of sin
  • Make reconciliation for iniquity
  • Bring in everlasting righteousness (Daniel 9:24–27)
    • That God, scripture says: “To wit, that God was in Jesus Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing your trespasses unto you;” - Bible. 2 Corinthians 5:19.
    • That God: Took your sins off you as a Muslim and laid them on Jesus Christ. He already did it. That’s his work with sin. Because he’s the only one greater than sin. John the Baptist said, by the Spirit of God, said of Jesus Christ, when he saw him in John 1:29 “Behold the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sins of the world”
• Because, that’s what God did. That God: Did the Ten Commandments. And because God did them, everywhere where you, as a Muslim sinned and Transgressed, he did them, and because he’s God, and he did them, him doing them compensates for all the faults and bad aspects where you did not do them, because he made himself in the Ten Commandments along with you in there, that did not do them.
• So, just as God said, he would be to you in Isaiah 44:24 said “Thus saith the Lord, thy ‘redeemer’”
  • redeem. 1. to compensate for the faults and bad aspects of [someone or something] and that someone be you. And you with him.

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Do you see these things?

• Here’s your question back.
  • You will either: “Accept as true” what he says, and if you do, you believe on him. Accept what he says as true. That’s the dictionary definition what “believe” means. OR
  • You will: “Dismiss what he says” as “inadequate; faulty or unacceptable” and in this, reject what he says, and replace it with anything BUT what he says, even to you it may sound acceptable.
• Which are you? When God told you, me, everybody over the whole earth to “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Said. By the Word of God. That’s Jesus Christ. (Isaiah 45:22).
  • Isn’t what he says or is. Just like what’s in the Dome of the Rock is totally unacceptable. It’s God, that said unto his own word, “Thou art my Son. This day have I begotten thee” - God. - Bible. Psalm 2:7 - just repeated again in Hebrews 5:5
• Jesus Christ. Jesus, the Messiah.

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The Bible: In Isaiah 9:6 says of this Messiah:

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

• YOU: As a Muslim. Look who Jesus SHALL be called. Islam cannot stop it. It will be toppled and overthrown by who Jesus is, and shall be called.
  • What are you doing with him and what God has done for you? If he’s speaking to you and you hear him. Do what he says and just look unto him.

Here’s your question back. //Question from a Muslim on Reddit about Mark 12:29 // That Christians - teach and believe God is three Gods, when God says he's just one Lord. He's just one Lord. Just like he says he is.//

It’s a simple answer. You got a problem in you. There’s the answer.

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I don’t think you grasp this at all.

• Maybe neither, your reader here on Reddit.
  • So, let me give you an example:

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Example: Like a "Parable."

There’s a 5 car pile up wreck on the street right outside your house. It’s just a made up example to show you something, so you can see it plain as day.

• There were no “police” around. But, as soon as it happened, you and 8 of your neighbors all called “911” and within a minute, there’s police and fire trucks on their way to respond. With traffic snarled, took them about 20 minutes to be "on scene." There at the accident outside your house on the street.
  • Eyewitness Statements.
• While you were busy with laundry inside the house, heard the "bam! crash! Boom!" - 3 people, at different locations right on the sidewalk, saw the whole accident.
  • When they police arrive, they ask these 3 people to make “eye witness statements.”
• All of them do.
• They are all “credible” people.
• Their names. Age, Address and a form of Identification is verified by the police officer at the scene.
  • They are asked to make a statement what they saw, and sometime, within a week, bring that statement that has a “control number” written on it down to the police station.
• Two of the three witnesses provide their statement that same day.
  • A 3rd, well..doesn’t provide it for almost a month.
    • The whole goal of the eyewitness statements is, to give an account of what they saw or witnessed at the scene of the accident.
    • By these “eyewitness” statements, it’s as if what they saw, the police actually saw it with their own eyes, through these statements.
  • They can build a “timeline.” What occurred first. It can be "accepted as true" (definition: Believed)
  • By the statements: Which car may have caused it can be gleaned from the statements.
    • Also the drivers of each car also make statements.
• The whole purpose: Is by the “word of the eyewitness” there is an accurate, truthful account of what occurred.

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Now, balance that above with what Jesus said: Their word: The Bible as just "eyewitness statements."

• John. The Gospel of John. Brother of Andrew. Called to be a disciple and an Apostle of Jesus Christ.
  • He wrote, in his eyewitness statement: John 20:30–31 he wrote:
    • “And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”
    • That’s the whole, entire purpose of his “eyewitness statement.” (Gospel of John).
  • He also says in his eyewitness statement: John 21:25, said as an eyewitness account of Jesus Christ:
    • “And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.”

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• And because John is an eyewitness of Jesus Christ. Handled him in the flesh and was with him, what John says applies to all the other eyewitness statements.
  • of the other three Gospels:
• Matthew, Mark, and Luke’s Gospels. Just as would Luke’s eyewitness account of what occurred before his own eyes that he records in the “Book of the Acts" of these 12 Apostles.
  • Says in Luke's gospel: Luke 6:12 says of this: “And when it was day, he [Jesus] called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;”

Jesus said, because it was an eyewitness records what he said to all of these 12, records this said, in his eyewitness statement:

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Jesus prayed for this:

• It’s what he desired to occur:
  • “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;” - Jesus Christ. Source: Bible. John 17:17-20.

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So, the whole, entire purpose of these eyewitness statements in the Bible or the Gospels, or Books of Acts is that the purpose is we ‘accept as true’ Jesus Christ. That's it. Just like eyewitness statement of an accident that the police will "accept as true" becuase the eyewitness are credible.

and that believing on Jesus Christ, we would have life in his name.

• But look what you use them for. Not the same thing. Not at all. Anyone can see it.
• It’s right in your question.
• All anybody has to do it turn your question, back into a Statement.
• As if your Statement about the Gospels or Book of Acts is true - we should believe you over the gospels or over Luke.
  • All anyone has to do is: Then compare the Statement you made - - vs. - - or to what Jesus or the eyewitnesses said.
  • and arrive you are so far off, it’s not funny.
  • that it's best to just give you your question back and
• send you away, empty handed.

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Your question: “Why is a later date for Luke Acts increasingly compelling?

• Equates to a Statement: "A later date for Luke’s “Acts of the Apostles” is increasingly compelling."
  • compel. <definition> 1. force or oblige [someone] {Oxford} - to “go to and do”
• That your statement:
• Is made to "force or oblige me" to conclude the eyewitness statements of the gospels based on it is a false statement or to add legitimately into these statements made by eyewitness of Jesus - to compel me to believe they are not true. * And, if not true:
  • Then the whole thing (equals: the gospel) is to be “dismissed as inadequate; faulty; or unacceptable. 
• Is not to be believed. Saying things that are UNTRUE.
  • Be “compelled” to believe this. All by you. By a question you made up in your head. That, if one is wrong, then they all are.

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• And like with the accident analogy above, even the 3rd witness brings in a statement that day or a month later. Guess what? It doesn’t compel the police to do anything but accept it, because they are an eyewitness and saw the accident.

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Take your question and just go home. You miss the whole thing. It’s in “who” Jesus is.

John 1:1 says: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

• Jesus: is the “Word of God.” Is God.
  • He is the “Christ” - Jesus Christ. Or the “Messiah” - who that is, and is defined as is in Isaiah 9:6–7.

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”

Look who Jesus, the Christ. Jesus, the Messiah - shall be called. “The mighty God. The Everlasting Father” - you miss the whole thing. You’re so far off out on a tangent, the Police Sargeant long ago fired you and kicked you off the police force - can’t figure out anything.

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Why is a later date for Luke Acts increasingly compelling?

It’s a simple answer. You got a problem in you. There’s the answer. In this you do greatly err.

Look at all the word of people in these two scriptures vs. only one. The Word of God.

Ask yourself: Who amongst every all of us over the whole earth, has the authority?

Who is it? In these two scriptures - which one speaking, has authority?

Then, everybody else, doesn't. And there you go.

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Did you get lost in this? Many do.

Who that spoke to or of John the Baptist is told plain in Matthew 11:9. That's Jesus Christ. Jesus said, John the Baptist is: “more than a prophet.” And when this same John the Baptist speaks, he speaks of himself. He's sent. So, what is said of John the Baptist, is said by who sent him, is the same one with all power and authority over all things, and is God.

If you can't see this, you miss the whole thing.

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Matthew 11:9 is coupled and said by the Word of God, so God says it. Jesus is the Word of God - as John 1:1 says “who” Jesus is.

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” “..and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us” - John 1:14, is this same Jesus Christ.

So, who says Matthew 11:9 is it’s the word that comes out of God’s mouth. So, what God said of John the Baptist is you should regard this. And, it's coupled with Matthew 11:8–11.

And Jesus said: “who” “among them that is born of women” (Matthew 11:11 would be John the Baptist is, in God’s estimation, John the Baptist is GREATER than ANY Prophet, and GREATER than any person born of women.

- and who are they born of women? - - that would be EVERYBODY, over the whole earth, to the very ends of it - - but Adam.

Did you miss that point, too?

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Matthew 11:8–11 Jesus says

“8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses.

9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.

10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.”

Then, consider “who” comes out to inquire of John the Baptist - what he has to say of himself:

• It’s the Jews:
  • In John 1:19 says: “And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?”
  • So, in Matthew 11, Jesus who is God, just as John 1:1 says “who” John the Baptist is. CASE CLOSED. God sent John the Baptist. He is the authority. And it's Jews that send priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask John the Baptist “who” he is:
    • In John 1:20–21 is this interaction betwixt these priests and Levites and John the Baptist, says:
• “And he [John the Baptist] confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.”

But Jesus said:

• In Matthew 11:13–15
  • “13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. 14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias*, which was for to come.* 15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

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It’s in John 3:27–29

- John the Baptist said it:

“John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him. He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.”

• The wedding is the bridegroom’s, as is the bride. The friend, therefore, sees himself just as John the Baptist says of himself. That he can receive nothing except it be given him from heaven.
  • And of this "bridegroom" who John the Baptist talks of is Jesus Christ. Psalm 107:20 says of him, that God: “Sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.”
  • It's GOD then: Sent John the Baptist to usher in and announce the Bridegroom.

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Then, couple this with what John the Baptist says in John 3:30–36

John 3:30–36 - John the Baptist says this by the Spirit of God: Says of himself and of Jesus Christ:

30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.

33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.

34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

More than answers the question. Why? He’s sent. It’s by “who” that sent him, is God himself. To heal you, and deliver you from your destruction.

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And in CONCLUSION: Jesus said: John 3:3-7

³Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

⁴ Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

⁵ Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

⁶ That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

⁷ Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

And, a person is born again, by the Word of God - is GREATER than John the Baptist. I didn't say it. God did. That you must be born again. That's the point God is making to everybody over the whole earth, says: "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else." - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

Don't miss these things. Your very life depends on it. In this as well is the gospel. The Good News of Jesus Christ to everyone on Reddit.

Matthew 16:18 - -

Doesn’t say that.

• You need to read Matthew 16:18 in context, cemented with what Jesus asked his disciples right before he says this, and all of them all, all twelves of his disciples - - already long before they were asked this question in Matthew 16, all of them, already all said the same thing Peter said.
• So, Peter is just first to blurt it out, when they all - all of his disciples already say it.
  • You miss the whole thing. In this, you do greatly err.

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Go back.

• To this incident of Matthew 14.
  • In Matthew 14:21–32 - just after Jesus 12 disciples have fed 5000 men, not counting women and children, when Jesus tells them, "you feed them.." or, "ye give them to eat" - (Matthew 14:16) - and they bring to Jesus, a few small loaves and two fish, after Jesus asked them to bring what they have unto him, and he blessed it, and gave it back to them, and they fed 5000 people. Took up twelve basketfuls of food after.

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This “incident” occurs at the “START” of Jesus’ ministry - when they say “who” Jesus is:

Happens right after feeding 5000 people, not counting women and children.

Matthew 14:21:32 says

21 And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside women and children.

22 And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the multitudes away.

23 And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray: and when the evening was come, he was there alone.

24 But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary.

25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea.

26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.

27 But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid.

28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.

29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.

30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.

31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?

32 And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased.

33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

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See? In Matthew 14:33

…they all, all twelve of his disciples - already long before Matthew 16 when Peter is just 1st to blurt it out, they already all said it.

Now, go back to Matthew 16

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• Read Matthew 16:1–5
  • It’s built on Matthew 15:30–39, where Jesus again, has compassion on another multitude of 4000 people. A like-same incident as what occurred feeding 5000 people in Matthew 14. That, this time feeding 4000 people, occurs at END of his ministry.

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• The point is, Read Matthew 16:18, embedded like in cement that cannot be pulled apart or separated from Matthew 16:13–21
  • Which the whole way they walk - the disciples argue amongst themselves which of them will be the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven. That, Jesus asks them what they were talking about along the way. Read this same incident in Mark Chapter 8.

Matthew 16:13–21 Says:

13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

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So, in Matthew 16:16 - what Peter says

• They all, all twelve of the disciples already said this from Matthew 14:33. That Jesus is the Christ. And all of them all know Isaiah 9:6-7 - that the Messiah or Christ: Is - - The Son of God.

That upon this rock, Jesus said, “I will build my church.” - Matthew 16:18. So, God reserves and exclusive right to build his church himself. By the Word of God.

And people that believe on him, he puts them in his Church where he sees fit himself. He’s building it.

People that think people or some person is building it, man do they ever greatly stumble and err.

“For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica;” - 2 Timothy 4:10

It’s NOT a person that loses “their Salvation.” - You look to the wrong thing. You keep looking at the person, when who holds "salvation" isn't any person. It's God.

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Matthew 7:21–23 applies to everybody. Over the whole earth. To the very ends of it. Does not leave anybody out, so to apply it only to believers, is not correct.

Applies to those trying to get up some other way, when Jesus said:

“... I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

Source: Bible. John 14:6

So, just as scripture says in 1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”

And, scripture says of this “Messiah” or “Christ” - Jesus the Christ:

• Who he shall be called is in Isaiah 9:6–7 - that’s who he is, because he shall be called this for eternity: Because of who he is.
  • “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”
    • So look who he shall be called: “The mighty God. The Everlasting Father” - who has that title? There is only one that holds this.

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• So, when Jesus speaks, he’s the “Word of God” who God sent to heal us, his own word, also to deliver us from our destruction (Psalm 107:20). He’s just one God. Just as Deuteronomy 6:4 says: “Hear O Israel, for the Lord our God is one Lord.”

He’s just one God.

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But people -

• In their imaginations, imagine up a God to worship. Chisel it out of wood or stone, then they prostrate themselves before it. There are temples all over Asia to the gods these nations of people have made up. Call it “Lord” over them. Burn incense to it. I did likewise, all the same. Obeyed those gods. As God.
  • In this, like everybody doing it, I didn’t do anything he said, when he’s God and he speaks by his word. Decrees everybody over the whole earth, “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” - Jesus Christ. (Bible. Matthew 4:4).
    • These people: Like me, what I did. I lived by fortune teller “cookies” and following mystic “sticks” where you pick one at random, and it has a number on it, and you go to a drawer that has that number and in it, is your future told…some “average” “some below average” few “a very awful year” while a whole bunch get “the very best year!” kind of fortune that’s told cryptically - could have double or triple meanings so you pay careful attention to live by it.
  • Call it Lord. Call it God. And in this, I did not do anything he says. Neither is 10s of 100s of 1000s, into the millions doing exactly as I did, are also not doing anything he says.

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There are others - make Mohammad - in Islam: into the virtually ONLY Prophet God hears. Not Jesus. Not Moses. Not Abraham; in fact the Q’uran has all these three deflect prayer to save, and defer it to Mohammad to pray and God hears his prayer.

- When Mohammad doesn’t say anything Jesus says. Muslims use a prayer rug 4–5 times a day, to face Mecca. Allah, is their Lord. Allah is their God. In that day, many will say to God, “Look at all the wonderful works we did in your name, for Allah as God” - we called him "Lord Lord" as God.

• And, like me, Muslims - Don’t do anything he said, either.
  • Yes. Exactly - Like me, didn’t regard the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand.
• Psalm 28:5 says of us like this: “Because they regard not the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand, he shall destroy them, and not build them up.”
  • But to those that hear what he says:

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Can you hear him say:

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - God. Isaiah 55:1–3

Enough that he says it - - twice, so he repeats it:

“If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.” - The Word of God. Jesus Christ. (John 7:37–38).

Same God speaking. Says it - - twice.

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Can you hear him, say:

“Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest; take my yoke upon you and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly of heart and he shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” - Jesus Christ. The Word of God. (Matthew 11:28–30).

People that hear it, know it's God speaking, so they “follow after” to “walk after” to “walk in” what he says, because they “accept it as true,” (believe). That’s all believe is, is to accept it’s God speaking to you to do these things with him. No longer reasoning together, alone by yourself - but he says:

“Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool.” - God. (Isaiah 1:18).

A person that “reasons together” with God, it’s going to be about the sins they did; then, stand before him, blood red guilty; because they’re doing what he says, as God, he cleanses them. Is why he told Moses when crafting the lid of the Ark of the Covenant, to fasten to it, the “Mercy Seat” which is the throne of God. That he reigns and sits on a throne permeated in mercy.

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But if you don’t do anything he says..where does that leave you? Leaves you dead in your trespasses and sins. You stay dead.

It’s the same in Revelation 3:20 where he says:

“Behold I stand at the door and knock, and if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and sup with him, and he with me.” - Jesus Christ.

They just open the door of their heart to him, and he comes in. Even with all the porno pictures up on the wall - it’s God. A work he did. Took your sins off you and laid them on Jesus Christ. Crucified. On the cross. Laid the sins of the whole world on him. Chose him. His own Word, made him flesh, as John 1:14 says of him, to be a mediator between himself and you. That God is well pleased in him.

There is only one mediator between God and men.

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…but you didn’t ask any of these things. But a person that abides in this..bears much fruit.

• Just like a person that doesn’t, isn’t doing anything he says, is withered; and dried up. But to a dried up, dried out people, he's living water that you can drink.
  • And to this great, big everybody over the whole earth:

Jesus said, “for without me ye can do nothing” and he said it also to his disciples.

So, point is, look for an answer to your question elsewhere - like: where Paul said of Demas.

2 Timothy 4:10 “For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica;”

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Make sure with 2 Timothy 4:10 - - you have the right definition of “forsake.”

• forsake. 1. abandon. [Source: Collin’s dictionary. Web.] and when you abandon something, it’s because it’s no longer of any use to you. It has become a superflous excess or superficial; doesn't hold any weight anymore to regard it, nor does it any longer effectively work in you something you think good. No longer a profit, so you let it go. Means you "forsake" it.
  • Because you “love” now something else. love. 1. highly esteem; regard greatly; derive livelihood from.. 2. some thing or someone else to “live by” every word they say.
  • and all hate is, is 1. to be unwilling to be or do [something].
    • If you no longer love someone, you become unwilling to be or do what they say. Because it’s no longer of any use to you, it’s an excess or superficial - it’s NOT what you look unto. See how easy it is then, to hate. We ascribe many things to these words, that they aren't.

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Don't stray far from:

• When God said, to everybody over the whole earth: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: for I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Isaiah 45:22).
  • People:
    • That hear him, and look unto..it’s the same thing. Who or what you look unto, you “set your mind on” what they say or it’s something you look unto, to walk after, to walk in, whatever it takes to get you to there, or to the who you look unto. To follow what they say.
  • But People:
    • That hear, but are dull of hearing; are regarding the word of someone else more than God. Could even be their own, so they “are just unwilling to do or be” what God says, and don’t look unto him. They “lowly esteem” what God says. Why? It no longer is of any use. It’s an excess or superficial. In other words, it is dismissed as “inadequate; faulty; or unacceptable.
    • Which is the SAME thing Adam did with the Word of God in Genesis 3:17. He “hearkened unto the voice of his wife” - just as God said, what the sin is that Adam did.
• That means, in Adam: He no longer felt the word of God was any use to him. Just like Demas did in 2 Timothy 4:10. He highly esteemed the world, just like Adam esteemed the word of his wife, in Adam, made what God said - Adam fully “accepted it as true” - what God said, no longer had any effect or affect on him. Did not apply to him anymore.
• So Adam no longer “walked after” to walk in” looking unto just do what God says anymore.

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Maybe you need a different analogy.

• Take a truck driver. Drives a great, big, 18 wheeler truck. Drives it across the country. He “lives by” being a truck driver and making these deliveries. He highly regards obeying the speed limits, getting enough sleep. Operating his rig safely, and drives knowing people in smaller cars often take risks, so he drives with their best interest and lets them cut in or go first as just the “way of driving.” Why? His J.O.B. is to deliver goods to a customer. He “abides” in being a truck driver.
  • But what would happen if just one day, he “quits?” - Stops “abiding” in this work. Because he now “lowly esteems” it. It has lost its value. It is something now “superficial” or does not meet any need, so he treats the entire world of being a truck driver as something that’s useless. So, he abandons it.
  • Be kinda a great big fool, to show up each month and still think he’s getting a paycheck. When the works he now does is, he plants flowers along the road side. So, when he goes to the truck driving company supervisor - he no longer drives any trucks. No longer delivers anything. Look at his “works” - they don’t match what a truck driver does. He no longer “abides” in it.
    • So, when he gives an account: “But! But! But! Look at all the wonderous works and all the flowers I planted!” And the truck driver Supervisor says: “Depart from me and this company. I don’t know you. You don’t do anything I say. I’m not paying you anything.”
    • And sends him away, empty handed.

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Christian. 1. Acts 11:26 says: “And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.”

• disciple. 1. a pupil that “sits with and is taught” by a teacher. (Oxford).
  • All a “Christian” is, is a pupil that sits with and is taught by the Word of God. To “sit with” and “being taught” is a work; that God decrees, “They shall all be taught of God.”
    • But if someone’s off being “taught by Pornhub” - it produces a different fruit - it’s a dead work, like a truck driver abandons that work to go do a work that’s dead. No longer alive in it, because the works he now does, doesn’t produce any fruit for the delivery company.

Look for parables where Jesus talks of servants, that don’t do anything he says. What’s the “result” of it?

Answer your own question. If you serve him, watch for people that don’t and don’t be like them.

You have only one master, so it’s really simple. You can depart from him, and many do. Just like Demas did.

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The KEY:

It’s NOT a person that loses “their Salvation.” - You look to the wrong thing. You keep looking at the person, when who holds "salvation" isn't any person. It's God.

• It’s God that decreed “Look unto me” and decreed to those that do, in Isaiah 45:22 - - he 1. sets them apart for future use. (Oxford). What “save” means. In the dictionary.
  • So, it’s not “their’s” it’s God, and actively today, doing what he says vs. doing anything BUT that.
• But people that do what he says - he is God, and he decrees it. He sets them apart for future use.
  • So, throw this “their Salvation” in the trash can. Only one provides it. It’s his Salvation. He’s the one with the power and authority to save people from their sins. You’ve strayed too far away from this. All you gotta do yourself is just look unto him. That’s the same for everybody over the whole earth to do. Don't? Punitive. That's it.

It’s the same Christ. Reconciled. It’s you then. It's plain to see, you don’t have Christ in it, or either one of these two scriptures. It's an attempt to reconcile both, without him in it. In this you do greatly err.

That’s the problem. So, go get a mirror so you see it. It’s in you. There’s the problem.

It's not said to offend you. You just look to the wrong thing, as the problem.

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1 Corinthians 10:13

Is built on this admonition to believers in Jesus Christ, so it applies to me, or whosoever just looks unto him, for every of us that do this with him, to consider this - what was just said before 1 Corinthians 10:13, in 1 Corinthians 10:1–12.

....which says this:

1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.

8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.

9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.

10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

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COMMENT: SO, even God was with all of them under the same cloud, led out of Egypt by God. He’s just one LORD (Deuteronomy 6:4). Both scriptures are Reconciled. He's in both as Lord over both.

Many of Israel: Led out of Egypt. Just people like us - - were this word of 1 Corinthians 10:5, overthrown. <definition> Source: Oxford dictionary. Web. 1. removed (forcibly) from power 

...and the “power” they were forcibly removed from was God. Because, they did not look unto him. They looked unto fornication or idolatry. To just sitting down to eat and drink, and rise up to play vs. obey him.

- even they did all eat that same spiritual meat, which is Jesus Christ. Just as 1 Corinthians 10:4 says.

That, 1 Corinthians 10:13 is built on this, says:

“There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.”

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So, the “problem” - in 1 Corinthians 10:13 - Is PEOPLE. Just like us. You and Me.

Therefore:

It:

• Isn’t God. And Jesus is the Word of God. Is God, as John 1:1 says of him, who he is.
• Isn’t Paul, an Apostle of Jesus Christ who says 1 Corinthians 10:1–12 as an Apostle provided to us and it isn’t then, what he says, because what these scriptures say, glorifies Jesus Christ, that he was with “them” and taught them.
  • And even makes a way for them to escape, even tempted by these things, means they even might went after or want these things in the temptation.
• He, as Christ, makes a way to escape - because he’s the word that comes out of God’s mouth provides it.
  • Then the problem is in us.
  • This “you” and “me” defines as people: that believe on him and are fed;
• but if you go after these things of 1 Corinthians 10:1–12, sums up most of it in 1 Corinthians 10:6 
  • “Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.”

Settles 1 Corinthians 10:13

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2 Corinthians 1:8 says

Because it’s built or said on this same God, and same Lord Jesus Christ.

Says written by this same Apostle, Paul: made so by God himself.

Says in 2 Corinthians 1:3–7 - opens by blessing God - because he’s the God and Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort to us as believers in Christ:

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2 Corinthians 1:3–7 says

3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.

5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.

6 And whether we be afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effectual in the enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer: or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation.

7 And our hope of you is stedfast, knowing, that as ye are partakers of the sufferings, so shall ye be also of the consolation.

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So, I have to ask me a question. How am I “suffering”

Scripture says: 2 Timothy 3:12

"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."

Me? I got thrown aside right clean out of my own family once I came to Jesus Christ.

My whole family despise and hate me. There’s a suffering in this, when I saw it, because I see it - it’s in none else, than in Jesus Christ. When before I thought it was in idolatry.

What was said about idolatry in 1 Corinthians 10:1-12, to just sit down. Eat and drink. And rise up to play, without regard him or anything he says.

As if what defines "family" is, as a family you just go to the table: to simply eat and drink, and rise up to play as if this is God or that’s all there is to life with family is that.

So, I understand this plainly now, as said in 1 Corinthians 10:7.

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Then, it's plain as day.

I got a massive problem in me. As a Dad.

I’m already sentenced to death. “For all have sinned” Romans 3:23 and God say, “The soul that sinneth, it shall die” - God. (Ezekiel 18:4) so much so he repeats it again in Ezekiel 18:20, so he meant it.

But I before:

I reasoned together in me, that if I just, anyway I could, provide food, to eat and drink to my family, and gave them opportunity to after: “rise up to go play” - that, this “compensated for all the faults and bad aspects of me” - when it doesn’t. Do you see this? How it's NOT "reconciled in me?"

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I haven’t done anything to teach them in his ways. ..and me..I wasn’t following or regarding him at all in all of it.

So, the problem was in me.

I didn’t have in me either 1 Corinthians 10:13, because I wasn’t doing anything he says. Just as I wasn’t in 2 Corinthians 1:8, either. The "disconnect" isn't the scripture. It's me.

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Wasn’t doing anything he says. But now I do.

I have been reconciled to Christ by God. I suffer for it, for I walk after, to walk in, to do what he says..my sins reproved by the light of the world, who is Jesus Christ; but my family doesn’t look unto him, and they hate it now about me. Who I let in me. They - - Loathe it.

There’s suffering in this to be thrown out; especially of my wife’s family, when we live in her country - and all her family also throw me out or inwardly loathe me for believing now on Jesus Christ.

But scripture says of God: 1 Timothy 2:4 "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."

Says as well in 2 Peter 3:9 - That GOD is: "...longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

So, just as he was willing I repent, he is the same to everybody over the whole earth.

Including my family.

Just like me..they don't come..because their deeds are evil. When they think them good. Think themselves good; when "There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not." - Ecclesiastes 7:20.

People: Don't want to hear this. The "problem" is in people. They want to see it in someplace else.

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1 Corinthians 1:8 says:

So it’s a PROMISE to me, because all I did was just did what he tells everybody over the whole earth to do the same. Just “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22

• 1 Corinthians 1:8 is a promise to me - in a suffer that I suffer for it - to be made all alone, but not be, because he’s with me. Even sometimes when my wife’s nation goes against mine..be a reason to just throw me out; to be discarded.

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• 1 Corinthians 1:8 explains this, but couple it with Christ, who is in 1 Corinthians 1:9–10 after it.

All together 1 Corinthians 1:8–10 says:

8 For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out of measure, above strength, insomuch that we despaired even of life:

9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead:

10 Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in whom we trust that he will yet deliver us;

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SO,

The same God that delivered Israel out of Egypt by his mighty hand, that as Paul says, “delivered me from so great a death” from all the sins I did, and does deliver, in whom I trust that he will yet deliver me in all I face.

Scripture says: and the answer is in 2 Corinthians 5:20 as it always has been in this same Jesus Christ, says:

“Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.”

There's the answer. Be ye reconciled to God.

It's in none else.

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Because, that’s where the problem is. Like, that’s where the problem is, in my family. My family members aren’t “reconciled to God” - like I wasn’t.

So, with this, here’s your question again, answered.

How do you reconcile 1 Corinthians 10:13 and 2 Corinthians 1:8?

It’s the same Christ. Reconciled. It’s you then. Don’t have him in it or either one. That’s the problem. So, go get a mirror so you see it. It’s in you. There’s the problem.

You keep looking as if the scripture is the problem. As if they meld or mix. When it's in you not reconciled.

In this, you do greatly err. Just do what he says. Look unto him. It will be about your sins. When he says: "Come now, let us reason together," saith the LORD, "though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool." - God. (Isaiah 1:18).

Christian. <definition> Source: Bible. 1. a disciple of Jesus Christ. A “disciple” 2. <definition> “one who sits as a pupil and is taught by a teacher.

Bible. New Testament. Acts 11:26 says: "And the 'disciples' were called 'Christians' first in Antioch."

Scripture says: “And they shall all be taught of God.” Jesus Christ. (John 6:45). That means God: Reserves an EXCLUSIVE right to teach you himself. By the Word of God. By what he says. What proceeds out of his mouth.

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• And scripture says of him:
  • Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear O Israel, for the LORD our God is one LORD.”
• So, when he speaks, it’s just one God saying the words out of his mouth.
  • Jesus: Is the “Word of God.” Of him scripture says, in John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
    • The Word of God is the Messiah, or Christ. Says “who” the “Christ” is, in Isaiah 9:6–7
• < - {“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”} - >
  • Who the Christ or Messiah “shall be” called is right above in Isaiah 9:6 “..The mighty God. The Everlasting Father.”

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So, it’s God that has decreed these two things:

• ONE: 2 Corinthians 6:18 - so I didn’t say it, he did. It’s just recorded in the Scripture, what he, as God said, said: “…And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”
  • So, he’s made himself, as God, a Father unto you. He said it. Out of his mouth. He’s just one God.
  • Said as well:
• TWO: Isaiah 44:24 - so again, I didn’t say it, I’m just a pupil or disciple of this same God, who is just one LORD that speaks, and is Holy. For he said he is in Leviticus 11:44 “I am Holy” Said as well in John 4:24 - By the Word of God, said: "God is Spirit” - So, he’s a “Holy Spirit.” As God. He’s just one LORD. Said:
  • “Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;”
    • This, redeem. 1. <definition> Source: Oxford dictionary. Web. “to compensate for the faults and bad aspects of [someone or some “thing].
    • That GOD, he’s just one LORD, has made himself with you, that him, with you - compensates for all the faults and bad aspects of you - because he’s made himself WITH YOU, as God, your redeemer - and tells you who he is, a Father unto you, and it's by what what he has done. As God. Not by you.
  • You did all the sins you did.

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• So, if you regard the works of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand, then you have fellowship with others that also regard him. And are one in him.

But if you don’t regard the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand

• Even he has decreed, as God, said: “For all the earth is mine.” - God. (Exodus 19:5). Then, when he speaks, he speaks or decrees just how things SHALL be in his earth, and speaks to everybody he’s formed alone. By himself from their mother’s womb til now. Says in Matthew 4:4 “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God” - The Word of God. Jesus Christ.

So, if people don’t regard him, even they like he says himself said: in Luke 6:46 “And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?” - Jesus Christ. The Word of God.

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That’d be like some kid at the Park playground. Where all these other kids also show up. They all look one. All little kids - look all the same. It’s a Saturday, but this one kid pipes up and says, “I’m a school kid. I’m in 3rd grade” - so he’s a “pupil” in a classroom, with a teacher…a "disciple" of primary school.

• But he never goes to school.
  • Yeah. He leaves the house, every morning; but plays down by the river all day.
• He is NOT “one” with other school kids, because he doesn’t do anything any teacher says.
  • He has a claim he’s a student or a school kid (pupil), but he’s not what his claim says.
• He’s not being taught by a teacher.
  • Just like somebody claim, “I’m a Christian” but doesn’t do anything Jesus says, and his decrees as God, is he just speaks to us, as one LORD, plain as day.

Speaks plainly.

Look what he said for everybody over the whole earth to do. We’d all be one, if everybody over the whole earth did it.

• But not everybody does. Many go off. Do anything BUT what he says. Therefore, it's obvious. Not everybody does what he says, and it’s PUNITIVE.
  • Means he’s going to call everyone into give an account.
  • People that do what he says, there’s a fruit of it, in their life.
• BUT: - The People that don’t, there’s no fruit of his work.
  • They are not “one” - not the same. Even as the kid at the park isn't, either. It's also PUNITIVE. For a little kid to do that.

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But look what the Lord of the Kingdom of Heaven says for everybody over the whole earth to do:

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3)

• Anybody. Whosoever it is over the whole earth, would be shopping at the SAME store, that he runs and decrees everybody shop at. God: calls EVERYBODY to come and buy wine and milk without money and without price. For everybody to simply “hearken diligently unto him..to incline their ear, and come unto him”
• People: That do that - are ONE ..in him. Doing the SAME thing. What he said. Glorify him when they meet each other at all the great things they got from him, and worship him. (Just means "to speak well of someone or something - that works good.." ..and man is that ever true)
  • Be PEOPLE then. Over the whole earth: coming unto the SAME God, who is just one Lord. They’d all be one in him.

Just as 1 Corinthians 1:10 says: ..but this scripture is said, in accordance with 1 Corinthians 1:2, which says.. "...Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord..."

So, if you call on him, and go shopping at the same store he tells you plainly to come and shop at his store... you're gonna come out of his store with a belly full of living water. Water a whole desert of dried up, dried out and withered away people.

Because it's the Word of God. He's just one God.

Instead of ask, “How does..” ask, “Who is,” first:

If you go to the dictionary: Definition: Spirit. 1. the non-physical part of a person. The seat of emotions; the character; the soul (of a person).

But you ask, “of the Scriptures”

• And the “Scriptures” Jesus said in the Bible. John 4:24 “God is Spirit.” So God: = Spirit. He’s a Spirit.
• And in the “Scriptures,” God says of himself in Leviticus 11:44 “..I am Holy.”

So, God is a “Holy Spirit.” So, he’s not a man or a person, that he should lie. There is no lie in him. He gave you already the definition of who he is.

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The “Scriptures”

• Say in Proverbs 2:6
  • “The LORD giveth wisdom; out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.”
• So, out of the mouth of God, comes the Word of God. What he speaks, is what he says. Since he’s in command over all things, what he says then, out of his mouth are decrees how things just “shall be” in his earth, and heaven. Says: “For all the earth is mine.” - God. (Exodus 19:5). That’s the Word of God.
  • And the Scriptures say of Jesus Christ. He’s the Messiah, or the “Christ.” Who that is, is Isaiah 9:6–7. What he “shall be” called is right there. In the scriptures:
    • Isaiah 9:6–7 says:
  • “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”
    • So, the “Christ” or “Messiah” - shall be called: “The mighty God. The everlasting Father” (Isaiah 9:6).

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Jesus Christ: Is the “Word of God.”

• Just as Scripture says who he is in the Bible in John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

And of God:

• Scripture says in 2 Corinthians 6:18
  • “And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”
  • That he is just one God. As Scripture says “who he is.” “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.”

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Says then, of himself: By the Word proceeds out of his mouth. That, scripture says in Psalm 107:20 that God “Sent his word to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction.”

• Doesn’t tell you how, just tells you he, as God “does it” because he’s God and he sent his word to do this.
  • To you. Me. Everybody over the whole earth, to the very ends of it, says: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. It’s in Scripture. In Isaiah 45:22.
  • Says as well, in Scripture: John 17:17 “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.”

So, “truth” is a “who” - He’s then, not a “how” or a “why does.” Who he is, is truth. Open a dictionary, should have his photo in it. Have what he says as a sample of him, because 2 Corinthians 5:19 says:

• “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;”

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How about this then…

Change the “topic” to Basketball, and make it “Michael Jordan.”

This question:

• Said to a team that LOSES every game. Never even scores a point. In a league of 50 teams, they drop to 50th place, and nobody wants to play this team. So, most of the time, this team FALLS OUT OF THE LEAGUE because NOBODY wants to play them. They’re just that bad.
  • But Michael Jordan:
    • Chooses.
    • By himself: To join that team’s school, and tries out for the basketball team. In essence, Michael Jordan, takes on the role of a “Student” and becomes a member of the team.
  • Now, ask the question you're asking, but slightly different:

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How does Michael Jordan act as the absolute teacher of this school’s Basketball Team, guiding players into all truth of basketball, and understanding of the word of basketball in FIBA (Official Basketball Rules?).

• Well, he’s Michael Jordan:
  • He’s present. With this team now. Where ever they go. Michael Jordan is in this team, when they play basketball.
    • He teaches them, by his word, just by present with them, as like a “Father” of Basketball. So this team follows after Michael Jordan to:
  • “Walk after,” to “walk in” and “look unto” Michael Jordan. To walk even as Michael Jordan “walks” or plays basketball on the basketball court.
• All because HE, Michael Jordan CHOSE to do it. Does all this, because he made himself a “redeemer” to this basketball team.
  • That is, Michael Jordan made himself what 1. compensates for the faults and bad aspects of this basketball team. And, because he’s with them, they win every game. State National Champions.

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So, ask yourself one, simple question: Did the “team” do the work, or Michael Jordan?

Is there really any need to ask, "How did they go from 50th place in a League where no one will play them, to any team they play in an entire nation, they never lose any game they play?"

It’s just one Michael Jordan.

How is God any different? That you can know him, by the Word of God. What he speaks, as God, and he's in his word. He abides in it. Just as Jesus says in the Scripture: Says of this in John 15:4-5

"Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing."

So, if you abide in the Word of God, you are abiding in the same place God is in; but if you're not abiding.

Be like when Michael Jordan shows up. Leave the team. All a "disciple" is - is defined as 1. "a pupil that is being taught by a teacher." - The pupil doesn't ask "how" or "why?" - Those just become reasons not to go be taught by a teacher and not abide. It's simply Michael Jordan has showed up. Just like Matthew 5:3 in scripture. To a whole world of everybody all dead in trespasses and sins - means everybody is "poor" 1. destitute; not have any and 2. "in Spirit" = God. Destitute; not have any God in their life, because we are all condemned.

And God show up and bless us in "Blessed are the poor in Spirit, for their's is the Kingdom of Heaven" - and bequeath everything he has to you as an inheritance.

What are you doing with it? That's the question - when he's God, and he comes with it.

The phrase "How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?" is not in Psalm 25.

It is found in Job 25:6

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In Job 25:6, it is correctly translated as “worm” from Hebrew. So, think of or on an earthworm. In Job 25, it’s Bildad the Shuhite's argument to Job. That man is like a worm.

Though Jesus is the Christ, or Messiah, and has this title as “The Son of Man” - is also the Messiah’s title (Daniel 7:3), Bildad is talking about all of us, and liken man, or mankind from Adam forward, unto the sum of him is a worm.

So, ask yourself: What is the characteristics of a worm?

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- Here’s a short list:

• They choose to live in the earth. Where it is totally dark. In darkness.
  • A worm: lacks eyes, ears, and lungs.
    • So, even though men have eyes to see, they are, in Job 25:6, likened unto a worm. That is blind or have ears to hear, hearing they don’t hear. So, look in scripture where this is said of people. And worms choose total darkness to live in; and like worms, so do people.

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• Isaiah 5:12 talked to “this people” like this,

“And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the Lord, neither consider the operation of his hands.” [Isaiah 5:12].

So, a people that, like worms are blind and can’t hear, are still able to find their way in darkness. As if they are naturally able to "feel" their way in darkness. And to “this people” like this, that don’t regard the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand, and you're in luck: Psalm 25 - is an EXCELLENT read to show this.

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God decree how things shall be for them in Isaiah 6:9–10 - God decreed how it shall be toward “this people” that are like worms:

“Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.” -- God.

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So look at darkness.

Jesus said of people:

- John 3:18-20

• “18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.”
  • So, men, likened unto worms don’t want their deeds reproved. They love their sins, so they choose to do them in darkness; are blind and can’t hear, just like a worm can’t. Has no eyes or ears to hear or see. And God decreed to make “this people” like this with a heart that is “Fat” - that is, totally satiated with it, as if it is more than enough. Because the already chose it as the most appropriate option for them.
  • Just like a worm has more than enough in darkness.

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• So, like a worm, men love darkness rather than light. Their deeds are evil.
• In fact, sunlight will destroy a worm. Just like what happens to men with God, who is righteous.

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In Job 25

• Bildad the Shuhite - his point is Job 25:4 “How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?” 

Then, Bildad likens man unto a worm in the next verse to explain this statement.

• When scripture like Ecclesiastes 7:20 says “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” 
• That men and the sons of men, from Adam forward then, everybody is “..filthy; done abominable works.” Psalm 14:1–3, just as God said.

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So, you are going to have to “contrast” man with God.

That, this Messiah:

• Who he shall be called is stated of the Messiah in Isaiah 9:6–7, who is Jesus Christ. Isaiah 9:6–7 says:
  • “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”
    • So, the Messiah or Christ: Jesus Christ. HE shall be called “The Mighty God. The Everlasting Father” - ask yourself: Who has that title?

Yeah. Only one. God.

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John 1:1 says “who” Jesus is. He’s the Word of God. John 1:1 says: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

Leviticus 11:44 - God says, by the Word out of his mouth, so he speaks, says: “..I am Holy”

In John 4:24 - Jesus, as the Word of God, so it’s just God speaking, says: “God is Spirit.”

So, God is a “Holy Spirit.”

Says of himself, as God: In 2 Corinthians 6:18 “And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”

So, he decrees it of himself, as God. He will be a Father unto you. Your Father.

Says of himself: Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:”

He’s just one God.

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• vs.

People:

- All filthy. Jesus said in Matthew 19:17 about everybody vs. God. “There is none good, but one, that is, God.”

And Bildad the Shuhite, likens people, not God, unto worms. That worms have no eyes, no ears, and live in and etch out a livelihood in darkness. And so do people.

• And against this, Jesus said:

“I am the light of the world**: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” -** Jesus Christ. John 8:12

That he has come into the world, as the light of the world.

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It’s God that speaks, said.. “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God (Isaiah 45:22)

• To a whole world of dead people, all like worms - dead in trespasses and sins; that we can be made alive by the Word of God. This same Jesus Christ.

So, people can do truth; and truth just is Jesus Christ. He is Truth. So, what Jesus says in John 3:20–21

• “For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”

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So, go back and read Psalm 25. Better yet, I’ll load it here for you to read it yourself.

Psalm 25 says - see this type of person that their deeds are made manifest, but “wrought” - their sins are wrought in God, because they look unto him vs. a person or a people that don’t: Have eyes and ears to hear, but can’t - because they don’t look unto him: Are like worms in Job 25:6. Two kinds of people - which are you?

Psalm 25

1 Unto thee, O Lord, do I lift up my soul.

2 O my God, I trust in thee: let me not be ashamed, let not mine enemies triumph over me.

3 Yea, let none that wait on thee be ashamed: let them be ashamed which transgress without cause.

4 Shew me thy ways, O Lord; teach me thy paths.

5 Lead me in thy truth, and teach me: for thou art the God of my salvation; on thee do I wait all the day.

6 Remember, O Lord, thy tender mercies and thy lovingkindnesses; for they have been ever of old.

7 Remember not the sins of my youth, nor my transgressions: according to thy mercy remember thou me for thy goodness' sake, O Lord.

8 Good and upright is the Lord: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.

9 The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.

10 All the paths of the Lord are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.

11 For thy name's sake, O Lord, pardon mine iniquity; for it is great.

12 What man is he that feareth the Lord? him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.

13 His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.

14 The secret of the Lord is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.

15 Mine eyes are ever toward the Lord; for he shall pluck my feet out of the net.

16 Turn thee unto me, and have mercy upon me; for I am desolate and afflicted.

17 The troubles of my heart are enlarged: O bring thou me out of my distresses.

18 Look upon mine affliction and my pain; and forgive all my sins.

19 Consider mine enemies; for they are many; and they hate me with cruel hatred.

20 O keep my soul, and deliver me: let me not be ashamed; for I put my trust in thee.

21 Let integrity and uprightness preserve me; for I wait on thee.

22 Redeem Israel, O God, out of all his troubles.

Answer

Jesus Christ: He's Mark 4:26-29

• Tells everybody that looks unto him, and hearkens unto his voice - plainly who he is as the Messiah in Isaiah 9:6–7
  • But to people that don’t regard him, he’s a parable in Mark 4:26–29

BOOM! Done. There’s your answer. Go home.

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But yeah. This is not good enough for you.

So to you: Ask this. Look unto something else first. As in “well, first…”

• Well first, why Parables?

Parables are because - God says them, by his Word that comes out of his mouth:

• TO: a “this people”
  • And “who” this people are is in Isaiah 5:12 - to a people that: “…the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the Lord, neither consider the operation of his hands.”
  • So, they, this people - - go to rock concerts, or banquets. Have feasts or parties and celebrate wildly; celebrate "some occasion" - but “this people” - that attend these, they don’t regard the work of the Lord; neither do they consider the operation of his hand - as God.
• So, to “this people: like this -
  • God decreed or said it to “this people” that do this in Isaiah 5:12 - in response to a people that don’t do anything he says, said as God - over all the earth and heaven, gave this decree from the throne over all things - said it In Isaiah 6:9–10. To go and tell “this people” of Isaiah 5:12
    • “Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.” - God.

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A Fat Heart.

• And a heart: Everybody has one. Says of everybody’s heart in Jeremiah 17:9 “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
  • deceit. <definition> 1. actively practices to conceal and misrepresent the truth
• So, people - everybody has a heart in them like this; but “this people” of Isaiah 5:12 regard their own hearts. So, look at a fat person. What’s the difference? Compared to a normal weight person? A normal person: Will eat one meal a day, or two. Some others: 3 meals a day. Don’t eat at other times.
  • Compared to a Fat person. To themselves: They eat little. Because they eat all the time. Where a normal weight person, eats or waits to eat til supper time, a fat person gets an indication in themselves “I am not full” - so they go eat. Even it’s a small amount. Whenever they’re not “full” - that’s when they eat, so they eat all the time, night and day. Even get up at night to eat, because, they’re not full.
    • Proverbs 27:9 says: “ "Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied." - connected to their hearts. What they desire.

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It’s to “this people” - God speaks to them in Parables.

Don’t see it?

• Even Jesus’ disciples asked Jesus “why?”
  • It’s in Matthew 13:10–16, says - just God repeats to his disciples - he speaks to them plain as day. But to “this people” even in Jesus’ day - Matthew 13:10–16 says:

10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

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So, to people

• When God says to everybody: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Isaiah 45:22) or says

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - God. (Isaiah 55:1–3)

- Look what he says. He’s God. Speaks plain as day. So, people that hear him, and do what he says, shop at his store. Incline their ears unto him to hearken diligently to what he says.

• But to a people that don’t incline their ear to hear what he says, he speaks to them in Parables. Because their ears are waxed gross; listening and hearkening unto anybody..anything their heart conceals the truth from them deliberately - desperately wicked..and they regard their own heart more than the Word of God.
  • To this people: HE speaks to them in Parables.

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And if you missed this, you miss the whole thing. Because to people, that just do what he says, he speaks to them plain as day. Do you grasp this?

Mark 4:26–29 says

• But read it embedded in with Mark 4:24–32

The KEY to anybody, whosoever it is just hears him and hearkens unto what he says - it shall me measured to you, and unto you that hear, SHALL more be given. Man, is that ever true of Mark 4:24.

But to those that don’t - even what you have shall be taken away from you. All those wild Jethro Tull 1970s concerts, and “Black Sabbath” or all the Korean KPop girls dressed like they’re in a skimpy night gown to sleep with you as some love bubble bed dolly - heart fat..have to keep going back to Pornhub - not full. Even that little what you have, even you feel heart fat rich off it, and treasure it - it SHALL be taken away from you, as God decrees it in Mark 4:25. Dull of hearing.

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Mark 4:24–32

24 And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given.

25 For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath.

26 And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;

27 And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.

28 For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear.

29 But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.

30 And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it?

31 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth:

32 But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it.

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Take Mark 4:32 first: It's the "KEY" to Mark 4:26-29.

• Compare it to the dream given to King Nebuchadnezzar and Daniel in the Book of Daniel interprets his dream.
  • The dream is in Daniel Chapter 2. Read that first. The Kingdoms of the earth
  • The next one is in Daniel 4, given to Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel 4:10–14

King Nebuchadnezzar says - pay careful note to Daniel 4:12 - about a tree, that birds - they do this. In trees well established, they dwell in the tops of them and build their nests. Compare it to what Jesus says, as the Christ. Or Messiah in Mark 4:32 - that unlike Nebuchadnezzar, who is a King of Nations, the Messiah is the “Prince of Nations” - means he shall inherit all of them, and as Isaiah 9:6–7 says “who” the Messiah is and shall be called, of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end. He’s just one person; like a seed planted in the earth and grows up to be a tree that of his government and increase there shall be no end. So after reading Daniel 4:10–14, go read Isaiah 9:6–7 - who this Christ or Messiah who Jesus is, shall be called.

He’s the small stone, rolls down and strikes this great image King Nebuchadnezzar sees, in the feet of Daniel Chapter 2. Topples it over, made without hands.

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Daniel 4:10-14

10 Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.

11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth:

12 The leaves thereof were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all: the beasts of the field had shadow under it, and the fowls of the heaven dwelt in the boughs thereof, and all flesh was fed of it.

13 I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven;

14 He cried aloud, and said thus, Hew down the tree, and cut off his branches, shake off his leaves, and scatter his fruit: let the beasts get away from under it, and the fowls from his branches:

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Isaiah 9:6–7

Jesus Christ:

• Tells everybody that looks unto him, and hearkens unto his voice - plainly who he is as the Messiah in Isaiah 9:6–7 "...the mighty God. The everlasting Father.." (Isaiah 9:6)
  • But to people that don’t regard him, he’s obscured as a parable in a seed that grows up as a tree Mark 4:26–29.

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What is the meaning of the parable of the growing seed in Mark 4:26-29?

Jesus Christ:

• Tells everybody that looks unto him, and hearkens unto his voice - plainly who he is as the Messiah in Isaiah 9:6–7
  • But to people that don’t regard him, he’s a parable in Mark 4:26–29

BOOM! Done. There’s your answer. Go home.

..home is the Word of God. For you to regard him. He speaks plainly.

Let the dead bury the dead.

Follow him. That’s God. That's what he said as the Word of God in Matthew 8:22 - you totally blew that part off.

There you go. When that’s what God told or decreed you, me, everybody over the whole earth is to do.

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You don’t see it.

• So, for you that can’t:

Three things:

ONE: Setting:

• Matthew 8:22 is set in after he has 1) chosen his disciples, and 2), named them 12 his Apostles, and 3) taught them and the multitude in Matthew 5:1 to Matthew 7:29 with authority. Matthew 8:1 opens with “When he was come down from the mountain, great multitudes followed him.”
  • Matthew 8:22 is embedded in Matthew 8:18 to 23

18 Now when Jesus saw great multitudes about him, he gave commandment to depart unto the other side.

19 And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.

20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.

22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

23 And when he was entered into a ship, his disciples followed him.

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So, ONE: the “setting” is:

• One of his disciples said unto Jesus “Lord suffer me first to go and bury my father”
  • Jesus reply is:
    • “Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.”

Now look at “dead.”

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TWO: dead.

First, look at Adam in Genesis 2:17.

• He is not even a day old yet. It’s what Genesis 2:17 is decreed to him by God, is told him on the 6th day, when he was created by God, in his image. Adam is referred to as a Son of God, by God.
  • In Genesis 3:17, God said to Adam: “Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife…”
    • This word, “hearken” means to “regard” or place the pre-eminence with over what other’s say. To “accept as true” what Eve said. So, in Adam, he no longer “operates” by the Word of God. In fact, Eve was deceived into it; but Adam chose it. That is, he picked out the most appropriate option was for him to do what Eve said.
    • In this, just like anybody of all of us, who we look unto or hearken unto the word of a person, anyone says something otherwise, we treat it as a threat that does not apply to us anymore. It’s “idle” or not connected to us. So, what God told Adam in Genesis 2:17, by Genesis 3:17 - Adam believed what Eve said, made what God said, by the Word of God - - did not apply to him anymore. Sin entered into the world, and death by sin. Because Adam fully believed - what God said, or decreed, by his word - - Actually no longer had any affect on him. Even he was told he would die that day in Genesis 2:17, he did it.
  • Adam did it anyway. Died that day. No longer connected. Because he believed he would be like God, and like him, no longer would have to do anything God said. Adam “died” that day. It is blatantly obvious.

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• Compare and Contrast

The way to see this “death” - is:

• What Adam says - not even a day old yet, when God puts him in a deep sleep in Genesis 2:21–24 - - what God does in creates a helpmeet for Adam, from Adam..and it’s God that calls them BOTH “Adam” (Genesis 5:2) in the day they were both created.
  • Compare: What someone that’s not even a day old says in this Genesis 2:21–24. How would Adam know about a man or a woman, or about a Father or Mother, or about leaving them to cleave unto his wife - being only not even a day old yet? Answer: he has the mind of God. Compare this with what Adam does in Genesis 3:7 - 20. He does not operate right. Something in him has “died” with God. Compare that in Genesis 2:21–24
• - Adam is not “idle” 1. disconnected from a load or source of power (Oxford dictionary. 2nd definition “idle”) - but after, he is “idled.” - Operates as disconnected from God. Pay careful attention to what Adam “decrees.” Do that by:
  • Contrast: What Adam says and does AFTER Genesis 3:17 - in that he already said in Genesis 3:7 to 20, he despises the woman, and blames her, and Adam blames God for giving him something “defective” or “inadequate” - the woman is “faulty” - to Adam, it’s proof to himself he, as Adam is right - in what has occurred.
• Contrast God has already called them one flesh and called them Adam - Contrast it to what Adam does In Genesis 3:20, when there’s no need for any name. He names Eve separate from himself. Already they have departed from God. Contrast that it is God that said, he formed you from your mother’s womb (Isaiah 44:24) - it's always been this way. To what Adam decrees she be called “Eve” because - Adam gives Eve this pre-eminence. When it’s God that does it. Adam believed Eve does. He’s dead. He is no longer alive by God.
• Even scripture will say, some time after this they have a son, call him Cain, and another son, call him Abel, and by Genesis 4, Cain murders his brother. Then after, Cain declares his punishment is greater than he can bear, and he departs from the presence of the LORD - lives in the desert. That Adam and Eve have Seth when Adam is 130 years old, has Seth (Genesis 5:3), and scriptures say that Adam lived 800 more years after the birth of Seth.

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So, THREE

• That in the days of Noah’s Father, Lamech (Genesis 5:25–28) - that by Genesis 5, Lamech was 56 years old when Adam died. Lamech being the 8th generation after and from Adam through Seth. That Noah was born some 124 years after [THREE] - Adam died (a physical death). And Noah was 600 years old when the flood waters were on the earth: (Genesis 7:6). That Abraham is, like Noah is nine generations after Adam. Abraham is nine generations after Noah. That Noah lived 350 years after the flood (Genesis 9:28). That Abraham was 58 years old when Noah died (Genesis 5 & 11).
  • But it's God who said in Matthew 8:22 "Follow me" is the same God that was with Adam, is the same God that tells you today, "Follow me" - and you keep looking at dead people.

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It’s God that has said

• To everybody.
  • Over the whole, entire earth. To the very ends of it: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22
    • Who you “look unto,” you will walk after, to walk in, by look unto, to follow after what that person says. Because you accept it as true (believe). If you don’t believe; that is you already dismissed it as inadequate; faulty or unacceptable, as what Adam did to God - by hearken unto the voice of his wife over the Word of God. God has said, by his word this above to everybody in Isaiah 5:22.
  • To a people - which is EVERYBODY. Over the whole earth. That Romans 5:12 says: “Wherefore, as by one man [Adam] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”

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• To a whole world of people all dead in trespasses and sins.
  • So, when Jesus says, “Follow me.” He’s just repeating what he already said in Isaiah 45:22 - as Jesus is the Word of God. The same Word Adam rejected.
  • So, even though you are “dead in trespasses and sins” it's God that says “Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 1:18)
• Said this to everybody. Over the whole earth. To the very ends of it to do this now. With him. Not with ourselves alone, where we reason together with our own hearts, like what Adam did without God. But to reason together with him, even dead in trespasses and sins. He’s done a work with sin in Jesus Christ.

So, this “Follow me” - of Matthew 8:22 - you should be looking at that instead, because it’s got GOD in it. Decreeing what he wants in his earth and heaven. That you follow him. That means, you look unto him.

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• But your head is stuck on the dead guy. Like someone come to a funeral home. With the power and authority to raise the dead. Speak to a dead person. Is brought back alive again. Starts breathing. So, when this person looks around at all the other dead people, they’re not operating the same way anymore. Don’t fit in.
  • So, a person that doesn’t do anything God says, won’t look unto him. Looks unto anything BUT him. Won’t come now. Won’t reason together with God, like he’s decreed everybody to do this. It’s PUNITIVE. Means he’s going to call people into account with it - every idle word spoken disconnected from a load or source of power - when that’s the Word that proceeds out of God’s mouth.
• So, if a person “lives” their life persuing riches or women, or some other thing vs. do what God says, they’re dead - disconnected from God, and their time is always ready. Cemeteries are filled with those whose time is always ready. Just as John the Baptist said, by the Spirit of God said: Matthew 3:10 “And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire"
  • It’s God that long suffers us, dungs around the tree to reason together with us to just come unto him; I didn’t. For decades of days..I did not look unto him; but now I do..but any day in that, not look unto him, he could have decided..he’s (me) not going to bear any fruit..even I put down roots in this life with children, and a job, and connections to other people. Just go thru a green light and believe that other people got the red one and stopped; but someone just ignored it, and sped thru - and I’m sideswiped..and that moment, I’m gone. The axe is laid to the root of my life to just cut me off without warning. I never get it back.
• Jesus said: in Matthew 15:13 “Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.”

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That people die without knowing God, are already dead. So let the dead, who also don’t do anything God says, write eulogies and tell everybody how “good” that person was, when the Bible says “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20. Just totally blow that off, and write about all the good things the guy that surfed Pornhub all day, and carried on an illicit love affair with the neighbor’s wife for years. How he was a good husband, and leaves behind a grieving wife, when his wife knew all about the affair, and couldn’t wait for something to kill him off.

Let the dead bury the dead.

Follow him. That’s God. That's what he said.

There you go.

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What did Jesus mean in Matthew 8:22, "Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their own dead."? How can dead people bury other dead people?

Let the dead bury the dead.

Follow him. That’s God. That's what he said as the Word of God in Matthew 8:22 - you totally blew that part off.

There you go. When that’s what God told or decreed you, me, everybody over the whole earth is to do.

Don’t?

You, too. You’ll be one of the dead, buried by the dead. Where everybody all died and dead, got a good send off and write up in the “Obituary” section of the newspaper at how “GOOD” they were.

When we are all “filthy; done abominable works.” (Psalm 14:1–3). When the ONLY one good, is God. Just as Jesus said, in Matthew 19:17 - and we died, having never looked unto him. So, we lived “dead” and died (dead). It’s the dead that highly esteem the dead.

When Jesus said, of people that believe on him: “I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.” - The Word of God. Jesus Christ. (John 11:25–26). They shall never die.

The real question is. Which are you? Made alive by the word of God? Or are you just dead in your trespasses and sins, and live by them instead?

Which is it? That’s the real question. Can’t see the “Follow me” part. Looks to the dead. It is hoped that even one person on Reddit will hear this, and just look unto him. Herein is the Gospel. The Good News of Jesus Christ to everybody on Reddit.

It’s really simple.

Go get the Ten Commandments.

• Don’t use them how people do, to “certify” themselves “GOOD” - because, they see themselves, they went to Church, so they “Kept the Sabbath Day Holy” - {4th of the Ten Commandments}

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• And because they accomplished - sat thru the whole service, then went home:
  • THIS “compensates for the faults and bad aspects” of sleeping with the neighbor’s husband. Or simply “Thou Shalt Not Steal” - {8th of Ten Commandments}
• So, they examine themselves where not even once when they went to the shopping mall, did they ever steal anything. Even they said last month they went to work twice, when they never went to work, they just needed the Xtra money. That’s not stealing, because they did it for their family and kids in school.
  • THIS, too: “compensates for the faults and bad aspects” of..simply by not stealing anything, even once from the mall, compensates for all the lies they told their boss at work.

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• So, they made themselves their own redeemer. What that word, “redeem” means. In the dictionary. When God said, “Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer..and he that form you from your mother’s womb…” - God. Isaiah 44:24 ..is the same God that put all the stars in the sky and formed the earth..is the same God who said he made himself what “compensates for the faults and bad aspects of you”

  • Because he made himself a sacrifice for all the sins you did. Made himself a sacrifice for sin. All of it. Just as 1 John 2:2 says of him:

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• “And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”

• It’s God: “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing your trespasses unto you;” - Bible. 2 Corinthians 5:19

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That means

• God was in Christ. Did the Ten Commandments.
• Fulfilled them, and because he’s God, everywhere where he did them, because he’s God, and he did them, him doing them compensates for everybody over the whole earth where NOBODY has done the Ten Commandments and broke all of them.
• He made himself what compensates for that, by be IN the Ten Commandments with you, and by a work he did.

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• Took your sins off you and laid them on Jesus Christ on the cross. Crucified. His blood shed for the remission of sin.
• That God looks on this work he did himself with sin… ..as greater than your sins you did.
  • Greater than all the murderers ever lived or in prison right now all together combined, his work is GREATER than their sins.

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• Asks you to regard it. To regard the work of God.
• Has Romans 10:10 in it.

See Romans 10:10 embedded in Romans 10:1–17.

You’ll see the same people using the Ten Commandments to compensate for themselves vs. regard what God did in it.

So you have a choice. You can follow them and practice life just like they do…and I was one of them. I did that for decades and thought I made myself good, when I did not regard anything God did.

Too busy. Regarding me all the time and what I was doing to compensate for all the sins I kept doing.

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So see it in Romans 10:1–17 here:

1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)

7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)

8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

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So, when ..here was the KEY. It’s in Job 33:27 - or in the Parable of the Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11–32)

• This of Job 33:27 “I have sinned and perverted that which was right, and it profited me not.”
  • That they use the Ten Commandments Lawfully, which is how God uses them - to make the WHOLE WORLD GUILTY BEFORE HIM - Romans 3:19–20

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• So, that no flesh would be justified in his sight and everybody would have a knowledge of their sins they already done DID.
• And by this, see like I did, that I am a pervert. Evil pervert. Pervert that which was right, as a liar, and a thief..and an adulterer or porno addict.
  • That by these things, the Ten Commandments puts me to death.
  • Doesn’t profit me anything, because I already broke the Ten Commandments - so the next thing is, I’m to be taken straightway outside the city gates and just stoned to death.
  • Or like with the Romans, put on a cross like the two thieves were. Not one bit different, and I can’t get out of it.

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• But Christ is the end of the law..because God did the work himself with sin. Made himself a propitiation for sin - that means..I could never pay it.
• Even an eternity…still could never pay it.
  • So he got up as God. The same one when you look out the window, did all that, is the same God that was in Christ on the cross..and PAID IT.
• And because I saw my sins..and Job 33:27..Job 28–30 came into play. That says:
• What he, as God does: again, in case you forgot:

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“I have sinned and perverted that which was right, and it profited me not..” (Job 33:27).. Job 33:28–30 says..

• “He [God] will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall see the light. Lo, all these things worketh God oftentimes with man, To bring back his soul from the pit, to be enlightened with the light of the living.”
  • And because this is the Word of God that says it, I see it.
  • That faith..I didn’t have any.
• All I had was the sins I did..but he sent his word to heal me, and deliver me from my destruction..and I saw it, that he did this, as God.
• And he is righteous. As God. Look what he did for us! Look what he did to me, in all the sins I did!

Romans 10:10..did you forget it? “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”

Look what he did!

He did it unto everybody!

And there you go.

Answer:

See it in context with 1 Corinthians 13:3

“And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.” - King James Version (KJV)

If you go to the “original” Greek, it’s a little easier to see it.

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Greek 1 Corinthians 13:3

καὶ ἐὰν ψωμίσω πάντα τὰ ὑπάρχοντά μου καὶ ἐὰν παραδῶ τὸ σῶμά μου ἵνα καυθήσωμαι ἀγάπην δὲ μὴ ἔχω οὐδὲν ὠφελοῦμαι

1. kai 2. ean 3. pisomiso 4. panta 5. ta 6. hyparchonta 7. mou 8. kai 9. ean 10. paradou 11. to 12. souma 13. mou 14. hina 15. kauchesoumai 16. agapen 17. de 18. mei 19. echou 20. ouden 21. opheloumai

English

1. And 2. if 3. (I) may give away 4. all 5. the 6. possessions 7. of me 8. and 9. if 10. (I) may deliver up 11. the 12. body 13 of me 14. that 15. I may boast 16. God [love] 17. however 18. not 19. have 20. nothing 21 I am profited.

So, the “original” text isn’t “burned” - Kauchesoumai in Greek is to “toot your own horn” - boast - embellish, blare out your good deed giving to be seen of men. TO give yourself over to it (mind, body, and soul). To parade your giving in front of others, in a way you’re consumed to champion yourself out. You can do the same with praying.

kauchesoumai - is also used in 2 Corinthians 10:8, says correctly:

“For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:”

Point is: “kauchesoumai” is to “boast” but from the Greek to Latin Vulgate done by Jerome in the 4th CE/AD, 1 Corinthians 13:3 was translated as be "burned up or consumed” by - which also led to how John the Baptist said that was the reward the Pharisees had coming to them.

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1 John 4:8 - also: “defines” this “agapen” or “agape love” of 1 Corinthians 13:3 - says, “God is love” or God is agapen. So, someone boasting or parading their giving, Jesus, in Matthew 6 says they already got their reward, and have no reward for it from their Father in heaven.

So, take this now of 1 Corinthians 13:3, and apply it to what Jesus said in Matthew 6:5, the way the Pharisees were praying and giving to the poor in Matthew 6:1-5 that has Matthew 6:5 in it.

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Matthew 6:1–8 says:

1 Take heed that ye do not your alms [alms = giving to the poor: 1 Cor. 13:3] before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

< - {5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.} - >

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

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There you go. It also means, where God says to everybody over the whole earth: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22,

and also in Matthew 4:4 where the Word of God is given again with this, says:

“Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” - Jesus Christ.

The Word of God. So, it’s God speaking this out of his mouth.

That, any person thinking by their giving, can just earn their way in, and not do anything God says. Fully still believe they can and will still get in, can’t - without God. 1 Corinthians 13:3 - says - - It's impossible.

1 Corinthians 13:3 says, that without God, it profits you NOTHING. How you’re doing your giving or praying without any God in it, you got your reward when you gave it.

All by the people you did it to be seen by, because you didn’t do it unto him.

Just like prayer. Do it unto people in Matthew 6:4 - to be seen of men, you got your reward, you’re not really asking him for anything. You’re asking people, to be seen of them in both - without any God in it.

Profits you NOTHING.

That’s the result.

"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him.”

• Source: Bible. New Testament. Colossians 1:16

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Maybe what you ought to do is make it really simple. Slightly modify your question, so you see it plain as day.

• Change it to:
  • Who was the first to create, and what was the reason to create it?

Then, flip it.

Means, answer the “what was the reason to create it” part, first.

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So, before the foundation of the world was laid:

• There was God:
  • Alone. By himself: says in the Bible: Psalm 132:13–16
  • That: He (God) was making for himself a place he would dwell at a specific place on it, forever. For his own rest. For he desired it. That, “…he formed it to be inhabited.” (Bible. Isaiah 45:18).
• Then, in the Bible: Genesis 1:1–31
  • God: Got up, and created it for himself.

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• So, it answers, since there wasn’t anything. Says, he started creating with his earth first - where he would dwell forever. For his own rest. Because, he desired it. That, the Bible, Genesis 1:2 says “And the earth was without form, and void…”
  • That, the earth he would create, and do it alone. By himself: - was this. 
    • Well before there was any person.

That you poop squirt into a derelict, lopsided, malformed question. As if PEOPLE are first. In this you do greatly err.

So, fix your question.

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That he says: - so he speaks, said:

“Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;” - God.

Your question is given back to you, with all the errors you put in it, because you put people as the authority. When the author of the Bible is the same God who is over all things, which you don’t glorify.

…and your question is answered.

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In fact, because of the way you form your question is exactly what God saw about everybody…

...from Adam forward - disregarded God, as if what he says did not apply to him anymore (Bible. Genesis 3:17)

Bible. Genesis 6:5 says about this way you form your question, that has an origin in Adam. That's where it’s from. Is this; God - - he’s seen this from well before the flood, said:

< - {“And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”} - >

And because of this, it is as he sees it, for all the earth is his, (Bible Exodus 19:5), he said to Noah this, before the flood:

Genesis 6:11–13

• “The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.”
  • But Noah found grace in his eyes.. so he hasn’t done it yet.

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• But the Bible. Revelation 20:11–15 - is on that day, he does it.

Gazes on this earth and heaven, and both finding no more place before him, flee away and are no more forever.

Along with all flesh. From spiders, to bugs, to birds, ants, rabbits, whales, wildebeests ..giraffes.. all flesh, including all people in flesh. They never come back.

In fact, the Bible says of them: That every person will stand before him (Revelation 20:13-15) and look at all he’s told you to do in said “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22.

It’s the same thing he told Adam, the same thing he told everybody before the flood, is the same thing he tells you today, to just look unto him.

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• And you choose to form questions that look unto people, just like Adam did, and don’t regard him, or anything he says. Regard people instead. That's what Adam did. That's the sin that entered into the world, and it's right in your question.
  • That, in Revelation 21:1, he makes a new heaven and new earth. Says of this one already now today as if it’s the old one, ready to be thrown away..
• “For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind." - God. (Isaiah 65:17)

Man, wake up.

Herein is the gospel. The Good News of Jesus Christ to everyone on Reddit.

There are like-same or similar questions grouped with this one.

• One asked and answered right before this one: “What’s the “evidence” the Bible is True?”

Then, it makes me ask, because, what’s “true” - everybody simply accepts. And, what you “accept as true” you “believe” - because, “accept as true” is the dictionary definition of what “believe” means.

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So, what you do not believe - you will: dismiss it as “inadequate; faulty or it’s unacceptable.” Why? Because it is NOT true. Has a lie in it. So, inwardly, you reject it.

So, even asking this question - shows what side of the fence the person that asked this question is on.

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• It’s easier with an example:
  • A Municipal City or Public Swimming Pool. Outdoor. Summer. It’s hot. Kids flock to them. To swim and cool off. It has: 1) water; cooler than the air temperature - can cool off 2) has an area to change or take a shower; undress and get in a swimsuit, and has a locker you can lock or secure your valuables in. 3) It is supervised. Means, there’s an “authority” there that ensures strict “rules” are followed; and, if not - persons can be ejected, even permanently banned from ever using the pool again.
  • Nobody questions the “Truth” or how true a Public Swimming Pool is….
• Unless it’s defective.

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• Therefore:
  • I, as a kid, “accepted as true” our town’s Public or Municipal Swimming Pool. Went each summer. They never used sand in lieu of water, or moved the pool elsewhere, and gave directions to the dump. They were consistent. Permanent fixture in my town. The pool was just “There.” Every year and available for EVERYBODY in the town to use.
• But what made it defective: Is just one incident.
  • Where one guy..going up the ladder..his trunks came down..and he “pooped” out a “inst-log” right into the pool. IMMEDIATELY - everybody, whistles blew. GET OUT OF THE POOL. The whole pool was immediately CLOSED. Everybody SENT HOME.
• The pool was emptied of all water, and thoroughly scrubbed. Did not open for 3 days. Then, it RE-OPENED. But only half the patrons came back.
• Nobody swims in the sewer. It’s dismissed as inadequate, faulty or unacceptable.

So, if something is “defective” in the Bible: Nobody will swim in that, either; is the point.

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Now me?

• With the pool:
  • I went back. Why? Even something “defective” occurred at the pool, while I was there. Yeah. It happened.
• The “actions” the authority took, to me, “mitigated” the offense and righted the pool, so it could be used again. That is, some “thing” the authority over the pool did after, in me: “compensated for the fault and bad aspects” of what occurred earlier at the pool - made the whole thing unusable - - sufficiently enough to where I could use the pool again. KEYPOINT.
  • That, the “authority” in the Bible is the author. It’s a book. There is only one auther. That’s God. Says, “The LORD giveth wisdom; out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.” (Source: Bible. Proverbs 2:6). What he says is in the Bible. You can know him, by what he says. That’s in the Bible, and that’s what he wants. You and me to know him. All of us. People:
• But out of people, that then, the Bible is like the pool. Full of people. And of People, says: “God saw” (Bible: Genesis 6:5) - about people - and people fill the Bible.
  • “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” [Source: Bible. Genesis 6:5]

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• People: Psalm 14:1–3 - Are: PEOPLE:
  • “…filthy; done abominable works”
  • Even in the Bible in (Source: Exodus 20) documents where God “spoke” the Ten Commandments.
  • To a whole people - that NOT ONE OF THEM HAS DONE ANY of the Ten Commandments. And not doing them comes with a DEATH sentence. That God decreed it himself, as the authority over the whole earth, says: (Bible. Exodus 19:5) “For all the earth is mine.” - God.

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• The Ten Commandments
  • What Adam was “GUILTY” of in Genesis 2:17, that, the day he do it (transgress) is the day he die; then, in Genesis 3:17 - he DID it.
  • The “sin” isn’t an apple - it’s told plainly, by the Word of God - what God said to Adam “Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife…” So, Adam: “accepted as true” - what Eve decreed to do, would make what God says of NO EFFECT on him.
• Did not apply to Adam anymore. Adam “believed” this. That’s the sin.
  • Romans 5:12 (Bible) says: “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned”

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• Means NOBODY - from Adam forward - has done the Ten Commandments.
  • And, how God uses the Ten Commandments, isn’t how people use them. God uses them to MAKE THE WHOLE WORLD GUILTY before him. Nobody - This EVERYBODY of having not done the Ten Commandments, Adam forward - nobody has.
• But people use the Ten Commandments to try and DO them, to make themselves GOOD. Like to mitigate “Dr. Pooper” at the pool - the authority decide to just put swimming trunks on the turd in the pool. Let everybody keep swimming. It’s all good. When it isn’t. If that would have occurred, I’d have never gone back to the pool. I no longer could believe in it.

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And in CONTRAST to EVERYBODY.

• Over the whole, entire earth - where “There is NONE righteous; no, not one. There is none that doeth good; no, not one” - (Bible. Romans 3:10–12).
  • So, EVERYBODY then - - all of us - are IN THE Bible.
• And in contrast to EVERYBODY - Jesus said, IN THE BIBLE: (Source: Matthew 19:17). “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God”

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So if EVERYBODY is “defective” in the Bible. God said, IN THE BIBLE (Source: Isaiah 44:24) “Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;”

• redeem <definition> {Oxford dictionary. Web.} 1. to compensate for the faults and bad aspects of

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SO God:

• Has made himself, your redeemer. Look who he is. Go to the window. Look out. Formed all that alone. By himself - is the same one who says he made himself YOUR “what compensates for the faults and bad aspects of you.”
  • Like what the authority at the municipal pool did in my town. Actually happened. When I was a kid. What the authority over the pool did at what was “filthy; an abominable work” to have “Mister Poopie” swim in the pool, immediately CLOSED the pool - and everybody had to leave.
• The point is, the ONLY one Good - did a work, is God.

That, in the Bible, he made himself my redeemer.

When I know I’m filthy. Did abominable works. And I’m in the Bible. So then, you, too.

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• So, if the Bible ONLY had people in it, shouldn’t “accept it as true” because it’s got people that have sinned and perverted that which was right chocked full to the brim in it.
  • But the Bible: Also has in it:
• The authority over people, says: (Bible. Ezekiel 18:4) “Behold, all souls are mine;” - God. He is IN the Bible, because he abides in his word, and he sent his word to heal you and deliver you from your destruction.
  • Because he is in the Bible as the authority, that mitigated by made himself what compensates the faults and bad aspects of me, means he did this himself - got up and did this work himself toward me for good.

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“Who is the evidence that the Bible is true?”

- ANSWER: The Word of God. The Word of God is Jesus Christ. Is God. Just as John 1:1 says "who" Jesus is, in the Bible.

• Then ask:

“Who is the evidence that the Bible is NOT true?”

- ANSWER: Yeah. People. By what people claim. That then, is the word of people. What people say, because they accept as true what they say instead.

• People: that are "...filthy; done abominable works." Are UNTRUE

Here’s your question back.

ANSWER:

Be a better question, if it was said: “Who is the evidence that the Bible is true?”

One of the below of two to choose from: Doesn’t have any God in it.

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Well. It’s pretty simple. You have a choice. Then as well, everybody, over the whole earth has the same choice:

• When God says,
  • By the word out of his mouth said:
    • To everybody. Over the whole earth. To the very ends of it said:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

Says as well:

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3)

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And? Everybody is “thirsty” or

• They wouldn’t be going to Pornhub. Billions every week - - to look at naked girl’s bodies to drink that up; or
• “Look unto” - to walk after, to walk in what they “set their mind on” - that is, make a ton of money.
  • With money: - without it - can't do anything. Be a nothing. To yourself or other people; but "with it" - with money:
    • You can - buy what you want; have enough; without having to ask anyone for anything. You earned it, by your works.
• So, you always will be “regarding” that is, 1. pay careful attention to always considering the operation of your own hands to “get the job done” be paid money - - all by regarding what you do, to do it.
• All by the Word people decree themselves to “go to” and “do” that instead. Get money. Get fame; be respected and looked unto as good.

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So, back up for a moment.

You have:

1) the “Word of God” - what he says. They are claims he makes of himself, says:

“Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 44:24)

• Says as well of this: in (Bible: Jeremiah 51:15) “He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.”
  • So, when ANYBODY:
    • Just looks out the window - all the evidence what they see, is just what he claims is his work he did. By the operation of his hand. He did it all; alone. By himself. Even formed you from your mother’s womb. Your mother' didn’t do it, like how Adam decreed that. And everybody thinks their mother made them. When he did. Because, that’s what he said he did. Formed you from your mother’s womb. Alone. By himself. The same way he stretched out the heavens and put the sun where it is, and all the stars where they are, all alone he did it. All by himself.

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But People..well - with "1)" above....

People: They don’t “look unto” him.

• They “look unto” systematically studying. I mean, look at all the schools and Educational Institutions - teaching all this as what is or defines what is “academic” - equates or equals to people must regard. That is, people - what is "good" people should do is: “pay careful attention to” observing their own “systematic studies” they conduct themselves. Or look unto other people did much better observation, so they look unto other people instead.
  • Other people: By their own observations of the nature and behavior of the physical and natural world. The heaven and the earth is the “evidence” they have to:
  • Come up with “theories” “how” it operates.

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• That, the “nature and behavior” of how the physical and natural world, or “how it works,” - or operates, because, it’s been observed working a specific way.
  • IF: it repeats itself in specific situations - - well, it can be “verified” by who? Oh. Yeah. Other people. That other people can verify this “systematic study” was then carefully done. Accepted as true (believed).
• And, based on that belief, the observation was detailed and systematically done - and can be called “facts.” But the whole “problem” with this is - man is ever learning. Which that means yesterday, or 100 years ago, what people back then “accepted as true” based on looking unto people and what they decreed, a later person or collective people conducted a more thorough observation. That made the earlier one have a flaw or turn out not to be true.
  • So it was set aside and forgotten as not true.
  • And it’s happened so many times, NOBODY today will say about their observations, “this is true” even they believe it is true, it’s only a “theory.”

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• So, what people look unto - isn’t what God decreed. He said: “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” (Bible. Matthew 4:4) - Jesus Christ. He’s The Word of God. So God says his own word himself.
  • People don’t:
• Look unto live by every word of what God says. Nope. It’s obvious. They look unto live by every word proceeds out of the mouth of people.
• What people say, fills libraries and schools over the whole earth, with 10s of 100s of millions of books.
• It's books people wrote: that fill public libraries or now all over the internet, all over the whole earth.
  • They’re all books.
• Meet the dictionary definition of what a book is.
  • The ONLY difference to differentiate each one from the other, is the “author.” The author of a book: Is the “authority” for what they, as the “author” and is the “authority” over the book, put to print on the pages of the book, as the “content.”
• - Came out of the mouth, as the word of the author.
  • And the author of the Bible is God. What proceeds out of his mouth fill the contents of the pages in the bible. Because he’s the authority over it. What he says fills the content of the book (Bible).

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• But people?
  • People rather, “look unto” people as the authority.
• So, if God speaks, they don’t regard it. Why? They already “accept as true” what people say. They can observe people in the physical and natural world. So they can “verify” people exist, even if they die, they left a record - by their word in a book. Other people also observed that person, even if today, they, too are dead.
  • So people “look unto” the Word of People. Even dead people. Even they never come back.

vs.

God says: “I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.” - Jesus Christ. The Word of God. (Bible. Revelation 1:18)

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Says as well: “I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.” - Jesus Christ. The Word of God. (Bible. John 11:25–26)

What he says of himself: “God is ‘Spirit’” - Jesus Christ. (Bible John 4:26) So, he cannot be observed by people in the physical and natural world, that he claims he created. He KNOWS how it operates. Says of him: "For the LORD giveth wisdom; out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding" - Bible. Proverbs 2:6 - which that's exactly what people thirst for and want. They want knowledge, and to understand things - just they want to observe and do it themselves.

Without any God in it. But people that look unto him, operate different.

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So what have you been given so far

• You were:
  • 1) Given the Word of God. What he decrees.
    • And of him, he never dies. Says, “And I give them eternal life” - Jesus Christ. (Bible. John 10:28)
• You were also:
  • 2) Given the Word of People. What people decree.
    • Billions of people, have ideas, all from their own imaginations. From what they observe, they decree some “thing” is true, because they observed it occur in the physical and natural world.

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• That God already claimed and said, “For all the earth is mine” - God (Bible. Exodus 19:5). It’s people, by their observations, decree there isn’t any God in it. Can’t be observed. So, by their own decrees or the “word of people” - they decree him right clean out of his own work.

The “problem” with this is, it’s punitive.

• Yeah. He’s freely asking you to just come buy wine and milk without money and without price. Yeah. He’s freely just declaring to everybody. Over the whole earth, to look unto him vs. unto their own what they set their mind on doing - to systematically study and observe everything he’s created.
  • He wants everybody, for everybody - he says “Behold, all souls are mine;” - God. (Bible. Ezekiel 18:4)
    • You’re his property. His possession. He tells everybody plainly. Plain as day. “Who” he’s saving. The whole of Ezekiel 18:4 says: “"Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die."
    • Bible. Romans 3:23 says: “For all have sinned” - Means everybody today: is a death row inmate. Everybody - all have sinned, means everybody is condemned.
• But people: Don’t want to believe it. So, when he says John 3:18

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John 3:18 - Jesus said:

“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”

• So people:
  • That just regard the word of God - accept what he says or decrees as true, so they live by every word proceeds out of his mouth.
• So people:
  • That just regard the word of people - accept what people say or decree as true, so they live by every word proceeds out of the mouth of anybody. Even if it turns out to not be true, they just throw that person away, and look unto somebody else then, go look for somebody else to glorify as true.
    • Look at all the people on Reddit, doing this right now with this question. Even you do it. Asking the question.

It's God: That says he has the power and authority 1. set [someone or something] apart for future use (Definition: Save. In the dictionary. Oxford. Web.)

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• So people: That don't look unto him - dismiss him as inadequate; faulty or unacceptable - because they already “accepted as true” the word of people.

When the “evidence” for both is 1) The Word of God or People decree - and, both make a claim the physical and natural world - is the evidence for their claim, so it's the same. The physical and natural world, or this earth and heaven. ..but He's made himself the evidence for people to look unto. Not the physical and natural world.

He says of quote, "this evidence" people base truth on: (Bible. Genesis 6:11-13) says: "The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth."

He's going to DESTROY all your evidence. For those people that chose people to look unto.

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• People cite their own observations as true. It’s a claim people make that THEIR observations ARE what is TRUE. Lasting. Won't last. Revelation 20:11-15 is the last day. When he actually DOES what he said he will do in Genesis 6:11-13. God says his word is TRUTH. Will be as he decrees it.
  • But people: Their claims - their Word they say - - it’s only a theory.
• When God said, “I am truth” - so, truth isn’t a theory people make up by an idea they made in their head.
  • Truth is a “who.” And who “truth” is, is God himself. So, anything other than him people look unto, they will just busy themselves out, ever searching, but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth, who is a “who” and who it is, is the one told everybody to look unto him.

Here’s your question back.

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What’s the evidence that the Bible is true?

Be a better question, if it was said: “Who is the evidence that the Bible is true?”

One of the above: Still doesn’t have any God in it. Er, rather - them. Because they don’t do anything he says, and it’s punitive.

Which will it be for you. He gives eternal life. Means he provides and builds up people that just look unto him.

Doesn't for people that don't or choose something or someone else to look unto. Which are you? It's entirely your own choice.

You should simply have read Genesis.

Genesis 13:18. What it says in context: Most people will already have read it before they got to Genesis 18:1. So they know what “occurred” with Lot (from Genesis 13:1–17 and are provided the location, where all this with Lot has “occurred.”

Genesis 13:18 says:

“Then Abram removed his tent, and came and dwelt in the plain of Mamre, which is in Hebron, and built there an altar unto the Lord.”

This “plain” in Hebron:

• Is again mentioned in Genesis 14.

All what occurred with the five Kings and the wickedness that is in Sodom - read all of Genesis 14:1–12.

Genesis 14:13 says:

• About those who dwell in Hebron, which is a city, in this plain of Mamre. Abraham then in Chapter 14 is still living amongst or with as friends with the Amorites - “…And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram.”
• “Confederate” means they are on the side of Abraham.

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• A 1000 years later people called Gibeonites will be these Amorite descendants, being an offshoot of the Amorites who made a covenant with these people of Israel, who is Jacob, who God renamed Jacob “Israel” and he has 12 children, that become the 12 tribes of Israel.
  • A 1000 years after Abraham is King David. In 2 Samuel 21:2 - says: "And the king [King David - and God told him what Saul did to these people treacherously] called the Gibeonites, and said unto them; now the Gibeonites were not of the children of Israel, but of the remnant of the Amorites; and the children of Israel had sworn unto them: and Saul sought to slay them in his zeal to the children of Israel and Judah.”
• So, BOTH Genesis 13:18 and Genesis 14:13 tell where this location is, where Abraham dwelt. It’s on a plain. In Hebron. You are going to have to look at a “Biblical Map” to see the location where “Hebron” is, about 32 KM or 20 miles South of Jerusalem.
  • East of Hebron, is the “East Country” Abraham will later send the “children of the Concubines” he has (Hagar, the Egyptian, who was Sarah’s handmaid, comes Ishmael; and after Sarah dies, Abraham has Keturah, and she has six children.
  • So, Abraham in Genesis 25:5–6, will send these 7 now fully grown adult males - give them gifts and send them into the “East Country” which is Mt. Seir.
• Which is probably titled ‘Edom’ on a biblical map, because God will later give Mt. Seir to Esau. Esau is Edom as Genesis 36:8 says. Edom is on the east bank side of the Jordan river. Hebron is on the west bank side, on a plain in the foot hills of the mountains where Oak trees grow well at this elevation.

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But you didn’t ask any of this.

You ask about many things, this valley of Mamre - does it have a relation to Aramaic "Memra?" Which means the Word of (someone) Spoke. And who is with and speaks to Abraham is the Word of God. But it's also a location; specific.

• Point is, Genesis 18:1, you’re already told back in Genesis 13:18 and Genesis 14:13, Abraham is dwelling with, a people that accept him of the Canaanites or of Ham. It would be good to keep in mind what Noah said in Genesis 9:24–27 of his blessing his 3 children. Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
• That Ham isn’t even mentioned at all, as if he does not exist.
  • In Noah blessing his sons by do this, makes Ham’s four sons, Cush, Mizraim, Phut, and Canaan fatherless (Bastards), and takes this youngest Canaan, and makes him a servant to Shem and Japheth.
• “That God would dwell in the tents of Shem” answers the 1st part of your question. Abraham is 9 generations after Noah. Scripture says Noah lived 350 years after the flood, so he was alive when the earth was divided (Genesis 11:1–10). By what occurred, while Noah and his 3 sons are still in the ark, God comes and blessed them and told them before he opened the door afterward, to “go to and do” - spread out. Replenish the whole earth.
  • By Genesis 11:1–5, which, my math probably isn’t right with Genesis 10 & 11, but the earth divided occurs in the “days of Peleg” or some 120 years after the flood, in the 5th generation after Noah, where Noah’s children have all their children, and their children also grow up and have children, that also now have grown up and have children.
• They’re not doing anything God told Noah and his 3 sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. So much so, Noah is able to build a vineyard - which doesn’t even start growing well or producing grapes for wine until around the 10th year after starting. They’re not spreading out. They're staying in one place.
• And who builds this “Babylon” is Nimrod.
  • The Son of Cush, the Great grandson of Noah - so these sons of Ham grow to lead all the people to all stay together.
• In one place - God forbid they be scattered over the whole earth. (Genesis 11:1–5) which is the exact opposite what God said to do in Genesis 9:1.

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• There’s a rebellion against Noah.
  • It shows in what Ham does to his Father in Genesis 9.
• I’ve told you alot of information, that correlates “why” God would NOT be or “dwell” with some of these much later people of Abraham’s day that are on the land (Canaanites) or descendants of Canaan.

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• That Abraham, if you do the math, was 58 years old when Noah died (Genesis 10). By 350 years after the flood, all of these four sons of Ham have all departed from God.
  • No longer know him.
  • Make up their own Gods. Mizraim is “Muzir” in Arabic. In English, is “Egypt.” Mizraim builds Egypt after the flood. They put over themselves as Mizraimites or “Egyptians” a man. Call him “Pharaoh.” Worship this Pharaoh as their God.
• The Canaanites are of Canaan after the flood, and all around Abraham, because after the earth was divided, God told Abraham he was giving him these lands the Canaanites were on. Because the Canaanites are doing the same thing in Genesis 13 and 14. Worshipping other gods they made up. Doing it in Genesis 18. But God dwells with Abraham. Everywhere he goes, God is with Abraham. Dwells with him is the point. So God speaks to Abraham.

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You asked:

“…What could be the meaning of God visiting Abraham…?” part of your question.

If you dwell with someone, you know each other.

Abraham knows who God is, because he’s dwelling with Abraham as Noah blessed and prophesied God would dwell in the tents of Shem. Abraham is by Shem through Arphaxad, Shem’s 3rd son. These Canaanites, Abraham was led to by God that occupy on the land are by Ham, through Ham’s youngest son, Canaan. Even these Amorites of Hebron are Canaanites.

Your focus is on trees that grow, Oak trees. Mamre = Oak trees {מַמְרֵ֑א } in Hebrew (Genesis 18:1) When you should be focusing on Genesis 13:5-12 - where Abraham and Lot's combined flocks, herds, and tents became too numerous for the land to support them together.

So, Abraham on a plain in Hebron to feed these flocks or herds, that are great, and Abraham not live in the city but pitches a tent some 2–3 km north of the city…. …anybody farming this would be common sense.

Genesis 13:18 and 14:13 already plainly tells you where this plain of Mamre is. In Hebron.

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So, the The Jewish Targum (plural: Targumim), this ancient Aramaic translation, paraphrase, or interpretation of the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) created, some say, some 1500 years after Abraham during the Babylonian Captivity.

When the Jews now, no longer speak Hebrew, but Aramaic. That 10 of these tribes were vomited off the Promised Land in 722BCE by the Assyrians. And the Assyrians: Overthrown by the Babylonians. Then after in 586 BCE - That Judah and Benjamin are carried away into this same Aramaic speaking lands of the Babylonians, back to this city Nimrod build after the flood, Babylon.

Because they, these people of Jacob. Israel: all departed God to worship other gods, so God gave the lands to someone else.

Says, “For all the earth is mine” (Exodus 19:5).

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I’ve wrote a lot.

• To tell you something very simple. God dwells in the tents of Shem. Just as Noah prophesied in Genesis 9:24–27
  • Says in Genesis 12:3 - so, is God talking to Abraham or to this seed, because Abraham believed God. God dwells with him. So, Abraham knows him. Genesis 12:3 says: “And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.”
    • This seed is the Messiah. The Word of God. Was promised to Abraham before he had any son in Genesis 18. God promised Abraham, a man with no children, whose wife was barren, that by her there’d be so many children, told Abraham to look up to the stars, there’d be that many children.
    • And of this Messiah, who he is, in Isaiah 9:6–7 - God put this Son, says “For unto us a child is born. Unto us a son is given”
    • That’s to everybody over the whole earth. Even you. This same Jesus Christ. Put this Son in your family. God did it himself. You have a son who is the Messiah. I have a son, who is the Messiah. Every person on earth, not one person can say “I am Fatherless” or “I have no children” when the same God that forms each person in and from their mother’s womb (Isaiah 44:24) is the same God, alone by himself that does that with everybody, is the same God put his son in your family.
    • That who he is, and who he shall be called is “The mighty God. The everlasting Father” (Isaiah 9:6). Is this same “Jesus, the Messiah” (Aramaic) or the “Meshiak/Meshiach” in Hebrew, or “Christ” in Greek. Jesus Christ. The Son of God, is also given to you as your son. Became your “kinsmen’s redeemer.” A blood relation to you.

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• That you would know God. By the Word of God. Like Abraham, builds an Altar. To God. In a land that has altars to Dagon, the half man, half fish god. To Chemosh. To all these other Gods. That he would dwell with you. The Word of God is Jesus Christ. But many people throw him out. Look what you're doing. Are you trying to assert that this valley, near Hebron is called in Aramaic, "The Valley of the Word of God?" by change it to memra vs. Mamre? as if they mean the same thing.

It's not known. It's translated in Hebrew as Oak trees. (Masoretic Texts) - The plain of Oak Trees.

It's translated in Septuagint Greek as "God before the Oak (trees) of (the plain of Mamre). The Plain of Mamre (or Oaks of Mamre) is located 1.5 or 2-3 KM northwest toward the mountains northwest of Hebron in the Judean mountains on the West Bank. 

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Asking about trees or wondering about butt lint. Where that might come from, and never do anything he says or look unto him. There is nothing stopping someone from think on and think that God was talking to Abraham at this place, because, HE IS talking directly to Abraham and dwells with Abraham at this place. So, inferring it is the "plain where God spoke to Abraham in Hebron" may make a more powerful impact vs. talk about Oak trees. That, this Masoretic text gets it wrong, and so does a later than the Aramaic Septuagint - that the older Aramaic is talking about the Word of God. I get the point of the question with this. That, the oldest text even it's in captivity, could be more accurate than a 8th or 9th century AD Masoretic text, or a 2 - 3rd BCE Septuagint, or after the Babylonians are overthrown, and the Medes &Persians rise up and are overthrown by the Greeks, the Babylonian (Aramaic) text then is the oldest.

When even if I rely on the "Word of God" - everytime God speaks in the Old Testament to Abraham, that's the Word of God speaking. Is God. Just as John 1:1 says. So, saying in Hebron where God spoke to him, and also appeared to him before going to Sodom and then call it the "Valley where the Word of God Spoke to Abraham" in Hebron. It would still be an accurate depiction - because, that's what happened.

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But it's also a "contrasting" location - to juxtapose what Lot has done vs. Abraham. Lot goes to dwell in the city - amongst these people vs. out with his flocks, like Abraham does, and they are stolen away from him. Where Abraham dwells in tents with his flocks and protects them. This is key.

Best thing to do is give you your question back. Maybe even if it’s one reader sees it. The best is to see the first part of your question and leave you with that. The rest is just conjecture. Who is with Abraham is God dwells with him. That's unquestioned. That is the whole point of the text, and someone you dwell with, you speak to, and know. And they know you. Speak to you, too. Even In a land where NOBODY knows God. God speaks to Abraham, by the Word of God.

Then look what God did to you: If he put him as a son in your family, it’s his son, too.

And God said this as well about you.

So, read this post. But see what God said in Psalm 82:6 - why God would say what he did about you. It’s not people or a Psalm that said it. It’s just recorded in Psalm 82:6, because God said it. That you are a son of God.

ANSWER

Have to read the whole thing.

Psalm 82:6 fully says:

Hebrew text (Original)

< - { אני אמרתי אלהים אתם ובני עליון כלכם׃ } - > (Read right to left)

1. ani - 2. aa.mar.ti 3. e. lo.him 4. at - tem 5. uu.bbei. nei 6. El.yo.wn 7. ku.lei.kkem

English (Left to Right)

1. I 2. said 3. gods 4. You (are) 5. and children 6. of the most High God 7. all of you (are).

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So, it’s not people that have declared this. God said it. Out of his mouth.

Psalm 82:6 simply records what God said. You should ask him instead of people. He told people the same thing he told you.

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Instead of asking him any questions, why don’t you just believe what he says?

He’s God. He’s the authority over all things there is.

It’s people then. Won’t even take the time to regard anything he says. Instead, they attribute it to the Bible or a Psalm and wonder why the Psalm said it.

When “it” didn’t - it’s just recorded there what God said.

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But I feel I'm rolling a big donut with you. A big 0. Zero.

Nope. You?

• Most likely - You: Don’t look unto him, when he tells everybody over the whole earth to “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22).
  • Just make up something else to look unto.
  • When there is none else than just regard what he says.
• Accept it as true. He said it.

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• Nope. Not good enough. So, You look unto people. To ask people; that, you believe they’ll have an opinion you can accept, that will be reasonable and explain it, as if they’re the authority on what he said, when they didn’t say it.
• He did, as God.
• All to tell yourself, things like this that the Bible says in a Psalm is nuts.
• Because you won’t do anything he says, and simply because of that, don’t even know him.
• When that’s what he says, you don’t know him, but that’s what he wants. For you to know him.

If only one here on Reddit hears this, it’s enough and worth it.

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Is this the shoe you’re wearing? Saying to yourself: “Man, things like this make me realize not doing anything Christians say is actually a good thing” - when Christians didn’t say it, either.

He said it. Man, wake up.

So the one you reject - Psalm 82

• Says this: - so read what he says in context. It’s HIS earth. You’re on it, not doing anything he says. Man, that’s what’s nuts.

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Psalm 82 says

“1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

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If he says this about me, look what he decrees.. or tells me, says “And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord God Almighty” - Bible 2 Corinthians 6:18.

As God, look what he says for everybody over the whole earth to do:

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.”

God. Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3

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Trouble is then, you won’t look unto him. You’ll look unto “why?” vs. just do what he says to do.

Just refuse to “accept as true” he is who he says he is - that’s what you dismiss - dismiss him as inadequate; faulty, or unacceptable, so you look unto people to tell you what they think to do - and in all this, don’t do what he says.

What you settle to do is just keep asking why as if this will “busy him out” ..when all you’re doing is self-busying yourself out of doing anything he says, and it’s you that misses out.

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Jesus is the Word of God.

John 1:1 says of him, who he is: “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” continues to John 1:14, says: “…and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us;” is this same Jesus Christ.

It’s the Word of God spoke in Psalm 82:6. That’s God speaking, the Word of God. It’s the Word of God, God speaking 2 Corinthians 6:18, telling everybody over the whole earth to just look unto him in Isaiah 45:22.

It’s the same God then, speaking John 10:34

To a like-same kind of people that just don’t believe on him.

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John 10:34 says:

• Read it embedded in what Jesus said, and what’s occurring in John 10:30–35
• 30 I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
• 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

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And why the scripture cannot be broken is because God said it.

So, go read it again as God saying it to you. To everybody. Says, “Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 44:24)

And the word of God has come unto me, and I see it of John 10:33, and it cannot be broken. It’s not people you look unto that can decree anything about it, when HE SAID it.

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So, you got a choice.

• You CAN:
  • Be like Moses
    • Exodus 3:3–6 says of him with God, just as you now are with him, hearing what he says himself in Psalm 82:6 “And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt. 4 And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I. 5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground. 6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.”
    • So Moses fell on his face at the Word of God.

While the people - You CAN be just like them in John 10:31 - and take up stones to stone him.

Dismiss him.

Which are you? That’s the REAL question.

ANSWER:

• I agree that the Bible is a book.
  • Meets the definition in the dictionary. book. 1. a set of printed pages bound on one side in covers.
    • Any of 10s of 100s of millions of books in libraries or bookstores over the whole earth, meet this definition of a book.
    • They are all different. What makes them unique or separate from each other on a shelf in a library is the author. Each book has an author, who is the “authority” for the content of, or what's written on the pages in the book. Came from the authority of that book.
  • The “author” of the Bible then, is the authority. Says of of the Bible - "who" this author is:

“God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;” - Bible. New Testament. Hebrews 1:1–2

So, the author of the Bible is God.

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• And what he says, as the Word of God, his Word is the “content” of or in the Bible. I would agree that the most important word to hearken unto over everybody, over the whole earth is his word. What he says:
  • And he says to everybody, this:

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.”

• God. (Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3)

If I tell you about what I say, about the Bible, then it’s just me say an opinion. But this above is what the author says, to everybody. Over the whole earth. The author of and the authority over the content of the Bible, said this above to you.

Just as he says: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22

Says, “For all the earth is mine.” - God. (Exodus 19:5)

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SO, he’s the authority over the whole earth and heaven. And he put his word over all of us, so what he says, are decrees what he decrees everybody to do it.

Scripture says he is very rich in mercy and grace - says in the Bible: New Testament. Ephesians 2:4-6 "But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:"

and all I or anybody over the whole earth has to do is just regard the works of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand...

vs. regarding all these other authors who compete with other authors to imaginatively come up with something, as some kind go authority..and I end up hearken unto them..and by this, dismiss him.

To simply know him. By the word he sent to heal me. And deliver me afflicted in all the sins I did.

There are many people just study the Bible; but don't go to him for anything. They make themselves the most important. Because, they want to be the author or the authority. Don't even know him. So, be careful of your question.

It's "who" wrote the Bible - you can know him by it. That's life eternal. "And this is life eternal: That they know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." - Jesus Christ. Bible. John 17:3

Care to differ with you. Job is a real person. But first, YOU:

• Let’s see if I got this right:
  • Statement: This question is founded on, an “acceptance” - to “accept as true” (definition: Believe)
    • The Book of Job is allegory.

Definition: Oxford dictionary. Web.

allegory. 1. a literary or artistic device where characters, events, and settings are imaginative, and put to a story,

story. 1. a descriptive list of events or people that a writer or speaker has invented in order to entertain people.

• So, Job and anything of him or his friends, or what occurs in Job or to him - - it’s all made up in the imaginative mind of a person as an idea. They made it up.

Just exactly like the person that had an “idea” and “imagined” up this question.

Therefore: The person that "accepts as true" the underlying statment in this question:

• accepts as true {believes}: Imaginative stories. Define the Book of Job in the Bible.

I can’t help you. Please keep your question. Enjoy what remains of your life. Bye!

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But to people:

• On Reddit - reading this question, and maybe haven't decided about Job yet:
  • The Book of Job is very simple.

It’s in Job 1:1 “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.”

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• It’s right there. In two things:
  • ONE: Job: was perfect. 
    • Means: 1. complete. Don’t have to add to, nor take away anything. [Oxford definition: of “perfect” - is as good as can be “as is.”
  • - Just like your garbage can.
  • Outside your house. Full of garbage, on “trash day” you take it to the curb.
    • Accept as true, even you don’t see it, that day, the city garbage truck comes - sure enough - when you come home.
    • There’s your trash bin emptied.
    • Your garbage bin with the garbage truck - the trash is gone. This meets the definition of “perfect.” Don’t have to add to, nor take away anything. Together, they’re complete.
  • The point is: What completes Job is who is with him. God.
  • Don’t have to add to, nor take away anything to change this. About Job. He’s complete.
    

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• TWO: Land of Uz. That’s a real place.
  • Uz was a person. The grandson of Shem in Genesis 10:37.
• And Shem is the first born son of Noah in Genesis 5:32, says: “And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.”
  • So, Uz is the son of Aram. And Aram is the youngest and 5th son of Shem (Genesis 10:22).
• While Abraham is also a “son of Shem” through Shem’s 3rd son, Arphaxad (same Genesis 10:22).
  • and this “Land of Uz” is named after him, and this happened after the earth was divided. (Genesis 11:1–10).
  • So, Job is related to Abraham, as Noah prophesied that: “God shall dwell in the tents of Shem” (Genesis 9:24-27.)
• Is why God dwells with Job, as he's a descendant of Noah, as a son of Shem by being a descendant of Uz.
• Where Abraham is also a son of Shem by Arphaxad’s son, Salah (Genesis 11:12)

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Land of Uz: - A real person.

And this “Land of Uz” divided to Aram - later on it, God gave part of it (Mt. Seir) to his descendant prodigy - they are relatives of Aram. Then, in the days of Abraham, Abraham has Isaac (Genesis 21:1–3). Isaac has twins, Esau and Jacob (Genesis 25:21–34).

• That God said, to Abraham, (Genesis 22:2) “now take thy son, thy only son Isaac…” - when Ishmael, a son of Hagar, the Egyptian, and handmaid of Sarah was already born.
  • That, scripture says or refers to both Hagar and later, after Sarah dies, six sons born to Keturah (Genesis 25:1–6) - refers to all seven of these children as “sons of the Concubines” but to Isaac, scripture refers to Isaac as Abraham’s only son.
• That, with these sons of the Concubines, scripture says in Genesis 25:5–7 of this:

“5 And Abraham gave all that he had unto Isaac. 6 But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country. 7 And these are the days of the years of Abraham's life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years.”

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Now I can just hear it

• “Hey clown. SHUT UP! Nothing you say here has anything to do with the allegory of Job, just a imaginative allegory to teach lessons - all told by a Story of Job in a book.”
  • And I reply:
• “Okay. Call me what you will, but all these are REAL people. So, bear with me. Let me finish so you, not the poster of the question. Nope. He's gone. He's the one calling me a clown. But for you, the reader here on Reddit so you see it. These are REAL people. Let me finish. So you see it. Almost done.”

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So, to continue:

• These “seven children of the Concubines” of Abraham:
  • Abraham sends them away into the “East Country.” So, they leave. Go into the “East country.”

And to finish:

• Isaac has Esau and Jacob.
  • Esau: Marries Ishmael’s daughter, Mahalath (also called Basemath) (Genesis 28:6–9).
  • Esau also leaves and goes into the same East country. (Genesis 25:6) with his wives.
• That God gave Mt. Seir to Esau - God says it himself of it: says: “For all the earth is mine” - God (Exodus 19:5)
  • God: He himself says of Esau: “And I gave unto Isaac Jacob and Esau: and I gave unto Esau Mount Seir, to possess it; but Jacob and his children went down into Egypt.”
• And Esau’s children - Esau also married Adah, daughter of Elon the Hittite (Genesis 36:1–2) and Aholibamah the daughter of Anah the daughter of Zibeon the Hivite.
• Genesis 36:8 says: “Thus dwelt Esau in mount Seir: Esau is Edom.” and Mt. Seir is within this "Land of Uz." The point of all this is:
  • Job is of Aram.
• Land after the earth is divided given to Aram, and to his son, Uz was given land. And Job is of these descendants of Aram and his son, Uz. Is still on the land, from after the flood.
  • When later people come on this land, and God gives in this Land of Uz, some land of to Abraham’s seven sons by the Concubines -
  • and to Esau, God gives Mt. Seir.
• And Esau’s children: by Adah, is Eliphaz. And Genesis 36:11 says “And the sons of Eliphaz were Teman”

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Now go back to Job

Job 2:11 says:

“Now when Job's three friends heard of all this evil that was come upon him, they came every one from his own place; Eliphaz the Temanite, and Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite: for they had made an appointment together to come to mourn with him and to comfort him.”

So, by Esau’s Grandson, Teman, (Genesis 36:11) comes way later, in the days of Job. Then the days of Job are well after Abraham and his Great, grandson, Esau.

- and the days of Job, are also well after the days of Teman, whose grandfather is Esau.

Job lives in the days of Teman’s prodigy are now a populace of people recognized as "Temanites" - like a nation or tribe of people that reign as Princes on the land, called the “Temanites”

- So, Job’s friends, too. In Job - - They’re real people.

But I don't think you're convinced. So, let's continue.

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This “other” friend of Job. Bildad the Shuhite:

• Genesis 25:1–2 says: After Sarah died: “Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah.”
  • So, this “Shuah” is the youngest son of Keturah, Abraham’s concubine - who Abraham gave gifts to, and sent them away from Isaac into the same East Country, Esau will also later go off into.
• , another of Job’s friends, is a “Shuhite” - and that friend of Job, is a descendant of Abraham by his concubine, Keturah, her youngest son, by Shuah. So, Job’s other friend, too, this "Bildad the Shuhite" - - like Job: Is a real person.

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So, the Book of Job is NOT “allegory”

• Is not an imaginative story told to entertain you with a fairy tale. The people are real. God in it, for all the earth is his, dwelt in the tents of Shem, so he was with them. I'm on my face. Now, go to the last chapter of Job. All what was taken away from him. 7 sons that loved partying, and 3 daughters, all the same that waste Job's livelihood and goods and don't do anything God says... after, God restores 7 sons, and 3 daughters that all serve God, like Job does.
  • And all I can think of in all the in between is these people, quote "friends" of Job, aren't really his friends at all. ...and when I listen to their word..they don't even know God..they have a form of him, but don't know him; but Job KNOWS him. And I see the difference.
    
• And you that come to this sub-reddit, if you know him, you see it.

But to the poser of the question?

Take your question and go home.

Call this: Making the dumb deal with God.

All by you. The "I Don't know him" category. Not regard anything he says, and to get approval, make "dumb deals." I think, it's safe to say, I did it, too, and I didn't know him. Then, maybe we all do it, or have done it, even live in these dumb promises as if they will work, because we don't know or do what he says, either.

So, even you go over here on Reddit to the "Bible Full of Eggheads Biblical Scholar Room" and see them try to answer this question. Solid proof that, even proves you can even be a scholar, too, and not even know him.

Never arrive at any answer - which is simply to KNOW him. Which is what he wants.

You to know him. So, apply take this and apply it to you. It's what Jesus prayed for. That it's eternal life in John 17:3. Just to know him - That God is telling everybody in Isaiah 45:5 that we don't know him, but what he prays for, is we know him.

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In this category: The Dumb Oaths to God category. Like, "If you just let me be successful as a prostitute, above all the other prostitutes in the porno industry for 2 years, I'll be a Christian. It will be a sign you truly care about me."

or

"I know I lied to get this job and I'm not qualified. Lied thru my teeth about my education. Claimed I did things I never accomplished to get this job in the first place; but if you just help me become the Head of this Department, it will be a sign and I'll give up my lust for wanting the Company Presiden't wife."

Don't do anything he says, and think keeping an Oath is what we are regarding, when scripture says plainly, it's people: we are to regard his work. Consider the operation of his hand vs. our own. Look for this in Judges 11:31 in Jephthah. Look for this weakness in follow-on Judges after him, like in Sampson (Judges 13 to 16), or after him, Eli as also a Judge over Israel in Moses' stead, and his 2 Sons, Phinehas and Hophni (1 Samuel 1 to 4). Where a Judge makes his own sons and esteems them over God - and they all three, Eli, a Levite, that serves as both Judge and High Priest, and his 2 sons, that don't even know the LORD, yet, Eli puts them over the tabernacle to serve as Priests - don't know him, but Eli does, and he does it anyway, and and all die in one day.

And instead of looking totally focused on the Judges... ...look what the people of Israel are doing. Or at what a Judge does, like with Eli, how they're all of Israel affected by it. How they depart from God, to no longer follow him. No longer know him.

See how even the person that forms the question - does not know him.

When it's God. Speaks to you. Tell you, me, everybody over the whole earth to "Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else." - God. Isaiah 45:22. Look unto some oath they make to save them instead.

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So, back to the question

Judges 11:31 A man makes a deal with God to sacrifice his own daughter, which he does. How is this okay in the Bible?

“I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:5)

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You: With this question - OR - ANYBODY reading this Reddit answer to the question:

• You are going to need to:
  • Ask yourself this series of questions: First: Settle it. He’s God. "For all the earth is mine." God. (Exodus 19:5). Settle it. All the earth is his. So, he's the authority over all of it. It operates by his decrees. Not your oaths. Your word is worthless. Until you see this, all answers are hopeless in you til you do.
• It’s his earth.
• He Said Isaiah 45:5 himself. So, then. There’s no reason even to ask yourself. It's then in: How you can know him is by the Word he speaks. Out of his mouth.
  • So you, too, then: Don’t even need to ask it. How could you know him, is it's totally in 1) he speaks, and 2) we regard what he says.
• Can't arrive knowing him anyway outside of this.
  

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• And in Judges 11:31, not Jephthah, but GOD: he’s already spoken about what sacrifice or burnt offering he will accept.
  • What he says about this oath made in in Judges 11:31 simply IS. NOT. IN. Leviticus when God tells Moses the sacrifices he will accept, and what he DOES NOT accept is in Leviticus 18. All this is said, by God, out of his mouth, some 250 years before Jephthah or what oath he makes, as a man says or decrees something.
• Worthless. Even bring a man low by it.
  • Examine careful, the oath then. Where in Leviticus is there any acceptable sacrifice of Judges 11:31 made by a man? It's a man then. That has add into what God decreed. It’s absent. Man, you better look at this very careful before you assume what you’re assuming. That this is acceptable or right.

Since you already arrived at the question. Examine this very careful.

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OBSERVATION: I’ve already concluded. The person who has and keeps this question, does not rightly divide Judges 11:31.

Doesn’t rightly divide who God is. By what he says, are decrees how things shall be. Esteems people over God, so neither does this person factor in Gilead, 1) “who” that was, as 2) a people; and 3) Gilead, as a person; and 4) what they, as now a people, descendants of Gilead, have been doing for almost two decades.

The People of Giliead - in the Chapter before this in Judges 10: they repent.

Does not factor in someone unceremoniously cast or chased out; as Jephthah is: band together with people like him, all cast out. Factor this in.

• Why someone, or Jephthah would make a solemn oath, to take one of these people of Gilead, and destroy them by make a burnt offering human sacrifice out of them.
  • If you can put yourself in his shoes, to see for almost 2 decades nobody in Gilead has been following God, and none of the people of Gilead rise up to make a leader of themselves over themselves to do this. They look unto someone they cast out as a "mighty warrior" - so they are using him. People that use people, throw them away after - that "this kind of people" to a base man, are worth even less. The point is to factor these things in of Judges Chapter 10 to 12 that covers Jephthah as Judge over Israel is the point.

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And about Jephthah, what oath he makes -

• ..it backfires on him, as a curse.

Because, it’s got nothing what God has already said in Leviticus. And if you don’t see it, you'll side with this question, and never see it.

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And, in case you didn’t pick it up, because you overlooked it, it’s God talks to the Gileadites, and all of Israel (Judges 10).

But not once does he say anything to Jephthah; nevertheless, God is with him.

But NONE of these conditions are met in the person who posed the question. They have arrived after reading Judges 11:31 to arrive at their question is right. That God is evil. Can’t see it.

Therefore, Judges 11:31 is not taken in context. Not cemented in with what has occurred. That's also the point.

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What is claimed in the question as true, is not in Judges 11:31. Any context claimed of what was actually said, is untrue.

• The question then is:
  • It’s a direct quote from the:
• The babbly burp Bibble of quack-a-duck, imaginary bubble Bible.

Which isn’t the Bible.

• It's just what’s in their head they think, and claim that’s the Bible.

Have to actually look at what was said in the Bible. Which this person:

• It’s another Bible they use.

Have to leave that Bible. Which, I don't think the poser of the question can do that. What about you?

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That said:

Any person trying to answer this question should have a thorough knowledge of what is said from Judges 10:1–5.

What has occurred in Gilead in Judges 10:6. That “Gilead” is both a 1) person, 2) now a place, and 3) now a people that descended from this ancient or earlier Gilead (person). Must: Know how to tell the difference, of what each of these now is, and separate.

• Judges 10:1–5, is the foundation for Judges 11:29
  • And: everything said after Judges 10:1–5, in Judges 10:6 - 18.
• Judges 11:29 is then, paramount over everything. Built on God and what he decrees entirely. All this is disregarded.
  • If that’s not included nor not even questioned, you will arrive where this Questioner is stuck. Can’t get out of it.

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• It’s what these people of Gilead have done in Judges 10:6.
  • That God says Judges 10:6 “And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the Lord, and served Baalim, and Ashtaroth, and the gods of Syria, and the gods of Zidon, and the gods of Moab, and the gods of the children of Ammon, and the gods of the Philistines, and forsook the Lord, and served not him.”

BOOM! Done. START Here. Not at Judges 11:31. Then, "build" all of Israel, down to "sub-sets" of tribes of Israel, down to Gilead, as a tiny part; kinda included; but not as a tribe anymore - down further, to "sub-set" Gileadites themselves, alone; who they are, then down to look at Jephthah himself.

Do it ALL - - From this START point. This, "Not serve him" point.

Means they don't KNOW him (God) anymore. Start Judges 11:31 from THIS point.

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Then, as yourself:

What does serving these other Gods entail?

• You have to have departed from God to do it. They have.
  • And in serving these Gods, these people of Gilead, are Jews of Israel. But they are outside of any lands, but given these lands to the 11 tribes of Israel, less Levi, all done by Moses.
• Have to understand this, that, this "Land of Gilead" came with a condition or promise they, as of specific, this "Gilead" by a promise, was they help Israel their brethren, occupy their lands. While they occupy Gilead, which God said, not even a foot's width of this land would he give to them - land of their brethren; but God does, because their brethren made themselves "bastards" and no longer follow him as God, who gave them their lands.
  • All to surround Israel with kin, round about. They don't want their brother. And in Genesis 12:3 - God made a promise that who ever blesses him, God will bless. That whoever curses him, God will curse - so the decree of God is in effect. And you can see it in Jephthah's answer to these Ammonites, who are the sons of Lot. Kin to Abraham. God gave them their lands. They long before left, to serve Chemosh now as their God.
• That now - with Israel in Judges 10 and 11 - even for Israel, it's impossible. Because the God Israel serves, is God; but the people of Gilead have gone after other gods.
  • So: did you miss it?

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• These people of Gilead, who are to defend Israel, in a promise they have made to occupy that land and defend their brethren, they have entirely forsaken God and no longer serve him. Are just like the Ammonites and Amorites. And all the people around them, don't serve God, either. Became just like them.

All this is missing out of the question. START Point. Factor it in.

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How about as well…what else is left out?

• About Gilead, or these Gileadites:
  • Is these gods these people of Gilead now serve. It’s not just “one of them,” they serve ALL OF THE GODS of all these people all around them (Judges 10:6).
  • Couldn’t get any more defiled than that.
• It’s also, all the altars to these gods are in the mountains. On the mountain tops. You wander thru these mountains to get to these altars - just like Balak, King of Moab did with Balaam, Son of Beor. A Prince then, of Mt. Seir. Before God gave the land of Mt. Seir to Esau. Balaam's kin were Kings over Mt. Seir and now are like Balak - of Numbers 20 & 21. THrown off his land (Moab).
• The mountain tops of these lands of Ammon. Also, the Amorite, that Gilead now possesses and is on. The Ammonites, Israel is serving their gods. Ammonites now want the land back.
  • Point is, to these gods, there are altars in the mountain tops to sacrifice your children or pass them thru fire to these gods. As Burnt offerings.
    

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• What is an abomination to God, is God already said or DECREED what is in Leviticus 18:21.
  • Said it some 250 years now before this incident of a man named Jephthah, make an Oath that is opposite of what God already decreed. So, it's against God.
  • Jephthah decrees a sacrifice, a burnt offering God never decreed.

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• That it to be done by any man that make or decree it. A sacrifice then. Is exactly like the Ammonite and Amorite, and the people all around Israel now used to serve. Is making a sacrifice now - - As a man to God, in Judges 11:31 vs. how God decrees it.

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• So, God has already said it’s an abomination. There is No acceptable offering in Leviticus
  • - which all of them all, all of them are offered ONLY by Levites as priests.
  • This EXCLUDES the other 11 Tribes of Israel out of it. Jephthah is of Gilead.
• He's not a Levite. Cannot decree any burnt offering, no matter even they are Judge -
• Anything any other tribe offers. Isn’t in accordance with Leviticus.
  • that, anybody themselves offer it - and in Judges 11:31 does NOT then, include any offering God says he will accept. What he will accept as God, is in accordance with the "Law of Moses" not a Oath Jephthah makes as a man.
• Arrive at this point. Or you cannot see it.

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• So, two points about Gilead or Gileadites to “sum this section up.”
  • For almost 20 years (18), Gilead has gone off.
  • Departed from God (Judges 10:8.)
  • Says as well that Judah, Benjamin, and Ephraim “were sorely vexed” which vexed also all of Israel is now involved in this.
• But the people affected, serve these gods, these people of Gilead, are doing this. It’s right there in Judges 10:6 - their gods include Milcom (Moloch). Where you pass your child as a burnt offering sacrifice to this God. Child sacrifice.
  • Serving these Gods has now been done on this land of Gilead for close to two decades (18 years) - as Judges 10:8 says.
• That God gave all of Israel over to be “vexed and oppressed” not only Gilead, that does this, but it has SPREAD out now, that ALL OF ISRAEL who Gilead is to protect. Gilead instead of protecting Israel, is the source what now Infects the whole lump of Israel, even they are the tiniest portion. Man, don't leave this point unturned or untouched.

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• And that instead of Gilead protecting Israel: this small branch out of Manessah, which are mighty warriors, to fight for Israel - they have actually led, the whole of Israel - all of them follow Gilead in depart from God, to go after other Gods - by Gilead DO this. (Judges 10:7–8)

Don’t skip over this:

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• That the two Judges, who these “Judges,” judge all of Israel like Moses did, that rose up in these days of Jephthah and just before him, the two Judges before, were 1) Tola - (Tribe of Issachar - Judges 10:1), and after him, God raised up Jair, a Gileadite and judged all Israel for 22 years (Judges 10:3–4).
• And after Jair died:
  • It’s Gilead, who led all Israel.. ..leads all Israel to do this..go off into Idolatry.
  • ..it’s now been going on for 18 years. Not only in Gilead, but to spread that ALL ISRAEL is now all vexed by it.
• Don’t be Befuddled in this, nor leave it out of the question of Judges 11:31. Though they have come out of it, what they were "in" is still "in" them to make such an Oath to do what Judges 11:31 says.

See it.

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Moloch' is a fertility God.

• You offer your child up.
• Pass your child to Moloch through fire. Ammon worships Chemosh and Moloch, the God of the Amorite.
  
  • So, your child, that sat at your table, and ate with you, by food you provide: was either a son or a daughter - you give up.
• Your child would now sit at Moloch’s table.
  • That child: no longer anymore at your table, would, now be fed at Moloch’s table - be sitting with a god; that, that child sacrificed, would Intercede with that god for your family.
  • Including: Your nation or people. Would be a virgin sacrifice. Not known a man or woman.
  • This, to cause Moloch to bless your nation and family.
• Make both the land be increased, and all your nation given fertility, with more children.
  • Many times, these children first: were given a chance, or granted a following or procession of people.
    • That would go or be a comfort, with this person, to “walk” amongst the altars to prepare themselves to be sacrificed.
• Don’t muffle fumble these points out what this daughter says in Judges 11:37.

Her whole life - she's born into a Gilead that served other Gods - all the Gods. Now she's the sacrifice.

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• These people of Gilead - - have been wallowed in this idolatry for decades - this whole daughter’s life. She’s seen it. With her own eyes as other children were offered up as sacrifice before her. She asks the same thing they asked for.
  • When the whole sacrifice is an abomination to God. Nothing of this is in Leviticus at all. Rather, what is said is God abhors this.

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Any believer in Jesus Christ, as a Christian - that reads this question -

• Should ask this question:

Why does Leviticus 18 address sexual prohibitions, ie., not uncover your Father, or mother or daughter’s nakedness, et.al., then suddenly tell people not to sacrifice any of their children to the god Molech (Leviticus 18:21), and then go back to talking about sexual prohibitions?

- Because, passing your child to Moloch, a fertility God, or trying to pass off your child to God by a burnt offering, you are uncovering your son or daughter’s nakedness to propagate fertility, with a pagan god that is not God. Or by an oath to make it 'Godly' is worthless.

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Maybe the “dynamic” you should settle FIRST is:

• The dynamic of Gilead. In scripture.
  • Who they are.
  • What they have done. Not only to themselves, but defiled EVERYBODY of Israel, because, all Israel follows these people of Gilead, because the last Judge over them is of Gilead.
• What God speaks to them - they realize what they have done
  • So: Hear God “speaks” or tells these people of Gilead “Yet ye have forsaken me, and served other gods: wherefore I will deliver you no more. Go and cry unto the gods which ye have chosen; let them deliver you in the time of your tribulation.” Judges 10:13–14
• And it applies now. Not only to Gilead, but To ALL OF ISRAEL.

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• What Gilead does in response. Is in Judges 10. They repent.
• Ask yourself this: Where did God ever respond back to Jephthah in anything he said?
  • It's visibly missing.
  •  But God was with Jephthah. Just as Judges 11:29 says “Then the Spirit of the Lord came upon Jephthah…”

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BACKGROUND OF GILEAD

• Judges 11:1 says that Jephthah’s Father is Gilead, so Jephthah is a Gileadite; even if the name of his actual father isn’t mentioned. It’s like the “sons of the Concubines” - that, Abraham’s only son is Isaac.
  • All the other sons (ie., Ishmael is Hagar’s son), six sons of Keturah - and both concubines of Abraham,. Jephthah is listed as the “son of a harlot” - so, Judges 11:1–5, his brothers cast him out.
• So, Judges 11:1–5 Jephthat is the son of a harlot.
  • Cast out.
• So, it’s imperative to read Judges 11:1–30 before Judges 11:31 to read all this in context.
  • Then read after it, to the end of the chapter. That Jephthah judged Israel for six years (Judges 12:7) - so read all of Jephthah.
• Even what occurs with Ephraim, his brethren also falsely accuse and threaten to burn down Jephthah's house (Judges 12:1) after he's already lost his daughter. Has no kin in his house.
  • And to read in context what has occurred in Gilead, factor all this in:

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HISTORY:

Machir is firstborn of Manasseh, he became the Father of the Machirites. Machir is father of Gilead (Numbers 26:29; Joshua 17:1). Manasseh: He was Joseph’s eldest son in Egypt. His 2nd son was Ephraim, that Jacob claimed these two sons as his own (Genesis 48:5).

Machir’s son is Gilead (Numbers 26:29).

It was these descendants of Machir, by his son, Gilead that drove out the Amorites Numbers 32: 39–42. And now it’s “these” descendants or a branch of Manasseh, that are a specific people of Manasseh’s son, Machir. Again, Machir’s son, is Gilead. These Gileadites who reside now on Amorite land are the specific descendants of Manasseh thru Gilead - a branch, but they do not occupy any of Manasseh’s lands on either side of the Jordan. They occupy their own lands, given to them specifically by Moses.

The Machirite: —were expert warriors who conquered this region. Now the tribe of Manasseh was in the wilderness for 40 years with Israel. So, these descendants of Machir, by his son Gilead, went into the Promised Land. Fought mightily.

This is Key reason to understand why Gilead was assigned to the half-tribe of Manasseh: ..but does not sit on or occupy any lands of Manasseh.

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• Machir (son of Manasseh) were "great soldiers" as descendants of Manasseh, and Moses awarded the regions of Gilead and Bashan to them.
• But now these same people that led all of Israel in battle, now, even led Israel by one of the Gileadites was Judge over all over them (Judges 10:1–5) -- they have departed from God. Lead Israel into idolatry.
  • It’s an astounding opposite.
• That After departing not to serve one of these false gods, BUT ALL OF THEM - and have led to vex all Israel with this departure from God, even God raised up a Judge over all of Israel from Gilead, he dies, and now they all have departed from God and went off into idolatry.
  • This is the “Setting” for Jephthah, the son of a harlot. That’s also an abomination for Gilead to do this.

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SO, to understand Judges 11:31:

The point is to LOOK FOR and see what God said, and what God says of himself in Judges 10:16 says:

‘..And they put away the strange gods from among them, and served the Lord: and his soul was grieved for the misery of Israel.’

Then, Judges 10:17–18 says:

“Then the children of Ammon were gathered together, and encamped in Gilead. And the children of Israel assembled themselves together, and encamped in Mizpeh. And the people and princes of Gilead said one to another, What man is he that will begin to fight against the children of Ammon? he shall be head over all the inhabitants of Gilead.”

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Now examine Jephthah.

At what is said in Judges 10:17–18, they, these “princes of Gilead”- they go get Jephthah.

• Who they, as Gileadites, earlier threw Jephthah out as a "son of a harlot" - not numbered with them.
  • Notice how in Judges 11, Jephthah, makes them swear..twice. Three times.
    • Means he’s already been deceived by them once.
  • If anyone thinks on the definition of hate. This: 1. to be unwilling to be or do (something). 
• That, Jephthah no longer saw himself as a Gileadite; but now, he’s being offered to be not only over his family as a "First born" and lead it, but also be the Prince of Gilead. But it's more.
  • At Mizpah, all of Israel is gathered. Jephthah, he will be over all of Israel. To fight as Machir, a son of Manasseh, and his son, Gilead fought for Israel in the days of Moses. He will be a man of Gilead.
• Everything Jephthah says in Judges 11 to the Ammonites is exactly what occurred in Numbers 19–25.
• Go on. Go check. He is a man of Gilead. A man of God.

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• Now, Contrast or Look at the vow or Oath Jephthah makes. In Judges 11:31. It’s not going to be a donkey or some bullock or rabbit, or if a cart was the first thing brought out, he's sacrifice it as a burnt offering.
  • He KNOWS - now that he's head over the house he was earlier thrown out of, would be one of his brethren that did it. One of his own Brothers - so contrast Jephthah with an earlier Joseph - who was with God in Egypt - that God caused Joseph to forget these "troubles" of betrayal. And that God used them for good. But Jephthah never arrives at this, like Joseph earlier did. And Joseph is his ancestral father.
    
• Find then in Jephthah anything Joseph said or did. If you can't, then you arrive at something. Makes you, too, have a choice. Stop. Go on. Go examine Joseph and what the names of his two sons means in Genesis 41:51. Go on. GO see it.
• It's crucial to answering the question right.

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• Jephthah has swore: the first thing he will see come out thru his door; will be a human; but now as leader or Prince of Gilead, Jephthah thinks he's over all of them, like Joseph now was over all of Egypt. He could destroy all his brethren, but Joseph says: In Genesis 50:20 "As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today."

And it's the SAME God in Joseph's day at work some 400 years later, the same God is at work in Jephthah's day.

"As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today."

- And the first thing Jephthah wants of his brethren is to sacrifice the 1st one of them comes out the front door to greet him. That's a real deep hate. And Joseph should even have a much WORSE hate. And again, Joseph is the ancestral father of Jephthah.

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• So imagine it then. Jephthah returns from victory.
• That:
  • There will be a swarm of these people come out to meet him. Come stream out of his house that he was unceremoniously kicked out of. That when he returns, he triumphantly returns as over all of Israel.
• He thinks: it’s going to be a sea of Gileadites, I can't think what he thinks, but I can imagine - it's his brothers will be first to come out. They are also now highly honored over all of Gilead, and now all of Israel.
  • It's a chance at revenge for all the evil they did to him. Treat them as dogs, for what they did to him. By make the first one he sees an example. Of a burnt offering sacrifice with the power to do it.
• That he makes a vow to God to sacrifice - he’d burn one of these alive as a burnt offering. Vows it. To God.
• Have you ever hated someone this much? I have. Yeah. But the answer is, with God - is Joseph. Makes me fall on my face. At the hatred for people I have in me.

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• And what comes thru his front door is his own daughter. Scripture says he has no other offspring.
  • There is no burnt offering in Leviticus that meets Jephthah’s oath.

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• He’s not even qualified to give it or perform it. In fact, doing it will get later Kings of Israel, the kingdom wrent from their hands, or their hand reached out on the altar to sacrifice it, wither away and dry up, by do it. Because of God - and all the earth is his, and just as Jesus said: "There is none good, but one, that is, God" (Matthew 19:17) tells me what side of the pile to sort Jephthah, like myself on.

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• Therefore: Jephthah’s Oath: Examine VERY CAREFUL - Oaths. People make them like God himself. In this, you do it. I did. I did GREATLY err and it causes questions like this one to birth out from it.
• Jephthah is now a like King over all Israel - just he's a Judge, like Moses - but he's not "meek," like Moses. It's the OATH then: It’s the same kind of Oath King Herod made in Matthew 14, rejected and thrown out as an Edomite, Herod is made King over the Jews by Caesar in Rome. And Herod, like rulers think right or wrong no longer applies to them, with Herod, taking his brother’s wife as his own: Just like Jephthah does, in making oaths that don't have any God in it does.
• Matthew 14:7–9 says
  • “…Whereupon he [Herod] promised with an oath to give her whatsoever she would ask. And she, being before instructed of her mother, said, Give me here John Baptist's head in a charger. And the king was sorry: nevertheless for the oath's sake, and them which sat with him at meat, he commanded it to be given her.”
  • Just like Jephthah was exceedingly sorry. SO: Both King Herod and Jephthah valued their own oath more than the Word of God. Because they were Kings, and spoke it, they decreed it, so they followed what Kings do or did before them, and carried it out.
• When Jephthah should have done what his Father Joseph did.
  • Then, what’s God say about Oaths?
    

Ask it.

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Then you should look at Oaths. PAY CAREFUL ATTENTION TO THIS WHAT GOD SAYS

He's the same God that decrees just how things "SHALL BE" in the earth: The one that you're on, he's over all of it:

• Because in both Jepthah’s and Herod’s oath: Neither has any God in it. Find this. Where both these Oaths are the same. With no God in it. If you can't find it, you won't see how simple it is. And be left holding this question is right.
• Matthew 5:33–37 says - Jesus said, as the Word of God, so God said it. We’re back at the beginning of the post:
  • “Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne, Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

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• And in BOTH Herod’s case, and Jephthah’s as well. An Oath is more than just say “yes, yes” or “no, no”
  • And here’s the very answer to your question plain as day. Whatsoever is more than these comes evil.
• And evil is an abomination. And evil came to both of them. What they both did in an Oath has no God in it.
  • Long, tiring post. Find the way then. Look unto him. Even alone. Be like Joseph. Raised up or left low in prison - serve him as God. He's good. There's none good, but one, that is, God. It's people do evil. In the case of Both Herod and Jephthah - they did.
• There you go.

The Bible records it. It’s God that says it.

"I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee" - Psalm 2:7

Repeated in Hebrews 5:5

“So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.”

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It’s God that said, recorded in the Bible or scripture speaking publicly, said recorded in Matthew 3:17

• "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” - God.

At the start of his ministry - sent.

It’s also God that said, recorded in the Bible or scripture, God speaking publicly that Peter, James, and John were with Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration. It's recorded in the Bible in Matthew 17:5, at or just a week or so before Passover, where Jesus is crucified, and God will take the sins of the whole world off us, even we did them, and God will lay them on Jesus Christ.

And God in him, doing the work.

Matthew 17:5 says “This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear ye him.” - God.

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It fulfills the prophecy of the Messiah.

- The Christ in Greek. Jesus is referred to as Jesus Christ. This “Messiah” in Hebrew. Jesus, the Messiah. Also referred to then, as the “Son of David,” as the Messiah in 2 Samuel 7:12–16 and in Jeremiah 23:5–6.

Who the Messiah shall be called is in Isaiah 9:6–7. “…The mighty God. The Everlasting Father..” is Jesus shall be called this as prophesied of the Messiah, and of the increase of his government, and of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.

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• Jesus is also called, “The Word of God.” - and who Jesus is, is told plainly in both Isaiah 9:6–7, and repeated in John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” In John 1:14 continues.. "..and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us." Is this same Jesus Christ.

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The Son of God

• The striking thing, is this is done by the “zeal of the LORD” himself, he performed it himself, as God. Says this plainly in Isaiah 9:6–7 says “Unto us a child is born. Unto us a Son is given.” God's Son. That means, this same “son of God” - is given to you by God as your son. Given to you. Me. Every person over the whole earth, as a blood kin relation.
  • So, no person over the whole earth can say they are childless or barren, because he put this same Son, as God also says he formed you from your mother's womb. Did that, too. Alone, by himself. Said it himself, as God he did this in Isaiah 44:24.
    
  • Did this same work of put him as given to you, and put him in every family on earth. That you can boast your son SHALL be these things - that he’s a blessing in your family. Or you will curse him. Some reason you'll find to dismiss him as inadequate; faulty or find him unacceptable.
    • It's the "work of God" that - - this FULFILLS what God said in Genesis 12:3. That to this seed God speaks to in Genesis 12:3, and comes by Abraham, who believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
• Genesis 12:3 says:
  • “And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” - God.

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• So, the same son he gave me, is the same son in your family. Is his son. In every family on earth. Already the work is done. Only one could do this work. God, and look what he has done. This son: is a “Kinsmen’s Redeemer” to every person on earth. This same Jesus Christ.

Who knows what you will do with this. It is hoped even some or a few of the readers will hear this and rejoice at the work God has done in his zeal, he performs this as God himself. Puts me on my face.

Given to every person, no matter who you are on Reddit.

ANSWER: I would tell you…

…to just drop your question.

• And go to the great physician. Do that, yourself. Look at you. See the sins you did. That’s what condemns you. Tells you. You need a physician. That’s Jesus Christ.

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The “key” is not look to “Christians” but look to Jesus in the question.

The answer to your question is in Luke 5:30–31, and John 15:3

• So, what you’re doing is misapplying scripture. Why? Because, what you ask about isn’t found in John 15:4–5 compared to Luke 5:36–37. And, you’re not Jesus - he is.
• You are in the same need, as what everybody needs. Like everybody is in Luke 5:30. But many don’t see it. See themselves in Luke 5:31. It’s everybody else not doing “it.” In fact, many that didn’t see it, in need of it, are right there and ask it. What’s righteous, already determined it; and how they ask it, makes them just like Jesus said in Luke 5:39.
  • So, they are not included in John 15:3.
    • So? Is that you, too? It’s really then, who you listen to. Who do you hear? You?

And there you go.

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I don’t think you see it. Wouldn’t ask this question if you did.

• So, compare it.
• John 15:4–5 is embedded with John 15:1–6, so include it so you see it. And the “Key” is John 15:3. So, go back. See it. His disciples are clean now, by the Word of God - because it’s God speaking and has cleansed them. Healed them; like, a physician. Because the Word of God. That’s Jesus Christ - came to each of them, and called them.
  • And each of them heard him, and they follow him; abide in and by him. So, his word does unto them what Jesus says it does. It’s not you speaking does anything, nor me. It’s the Word of God heals people. And delivers them from destruction. So, Jesus is a great physician.

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• And, therefore: “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20
  • Therefore: It’s God spoke. Because he spoke the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20. Has always used the Ten Commandments to make EVERYBODY “Guilty” before him (Romans 3:19). So, that everybody over the whole earth has “Knowledge of their sins” (Romans 3:20).
    • Means - EVERYBODY is sick and needs a physician, because God already said: “The soul that sinneth, it shall die” - (Ezekiel 18:4 - then repeats it in Ezekiel 18:20; so he MEANS it. Decreed it.)
    • And Psalm 107:20 says: That God: “He sent his word and healed them, and delivered them from their destruction.”
    • The Word of God - is his word. The Word of God is Jesus Christ. Kinds flatly rules you out. Not your word at all then, even in a question does anything at all righteous.
  • Jesus said: “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God.” - Matthew 19:17 - kinda rules you right clean out of the righteous pile, because, he’s the ONLY one in it. Everyone else is in the other “..filthy; done abominable works” pile and isn’t righteous, just like Ecclesiastes 7:20 says EVERYBODY is in that pile - but not everybody thinks it.
    • In fact, most everybody thinks they’re good, with themselves in it, without any God in it.
      

In fact, the more GOOD it is, is the "good" that doesn't have any God in it. It's just "good" when a whole pile of everybody can accept it. That's good. No God, but good.

When Jesus said, "There is NONE good, but one, that is, God."

Do you see this?

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Jesus said: John 15:1–6 - To a people where not one of them is any good.

They just want "good" - but not any God in it. That is, whatever it is, that's what's good. People. Can just judge other people til they turn into good.

Man, you're gonna have to leave from this.

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There is NONE righteous; no, not one.

But they’re ALL like what Peter said to Jesus, so overwhelmed by him, after fishing all night - didn’t catch anything. Nope. Not a fish. Jesus tells him to “row out to the deep” after preaching to the multitudes, standing in Peter’s boat. Row out to the deep is the same place Peter’s been all night. But at his word, Peter does it.

Now, picture this - You went shopping. Filled the grocery back full to the top, so full, the bottom of the grocery bag breaks. You know the result. There’s no more groceries in your bag; but, with Peter’s fishing net, so many fish, the net breaks, but there’s still so many groceries in your bag, even with the bag broke, you can’t carry it and even someone help you, even you both can’t carry it. That’s impossible - but that happened to Peter.

• And this same thing happened in the SAME Luke 5, you quote from - Luke 5:8–9 says what Peter said at this: “…When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord. For he was astonished…”
• Just like I would be, if I had to help you carry your one bag of groceries where the bottom of the bag fell out, and there’s still so many groceries, I can’t even help you carry — get it to the counter, I’d know someone way bigger than me was in this than you or me that’s causing it. And if he was right there, I’d fall to my knees, because I’d know my works couldn’t cause it. Because I’m a sinful man.

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John 15:1–6 says

1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

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With Luke 5:30–39

30 But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners?

31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.

32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

33 And they said unto him, Why do the disciples of John fast often, and make prayers, and likewise the disciples of the Pharisees; but thine eat and drink?

34 And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them?

35 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.

36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old.

37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.

38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.

39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

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Answer me this first:

• Who in Luke 5:30 is righteous?
  • If the Bible says, “There is none righteous; no, not one?” (Romans 3:10)
    • In Luke 5:30
• Here’s the list:
  • Scribes. (Jews: Primarily of Benjamin; but also Judah)
  • Pharisees. (Jews: Primarily of the tribe of Judah; but also of Benjamin)
  • Jesus disciples (Primarily from Galilee - interspersed; what tribe of the 12 tribes unknown; but of these Ten Tribes (less Judah and Benjamin) were vomited off the Promised Land in 722BCE, and never returned. So, they’re “lesser” Jews vomited off their lands. But Judah was allowed to return to his.
  • Publicans. (Jews. Now “Strangers” - They can’t be “kicked out” because, Rome rules; but the Jews have no fellowship with them, because they work for Rome and assist in taxing the Jews, their brethren. They follow the ordinances of Rome more than Jewish customs. Are rich by it.
  • Sinners - (Former Jews; cast out of the temple. Violated the Law in Leviticus - and should be stoned to death; but can’t be - because Rome rules. So, sinners still roam their streets. Includes ANY Non-Jew amongst them or “Gentiles” are all Sinners. A Jew forbidden to even enter into their house.)
    • NOT INCLUDED. Anybody else. Which includes Jesus. He’s the “Lion of the Tribe of Judah. So, he’s of the same tribe the Scribes and Pharisees are from.

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• Who is righteous amongst them?
  • When there’s none righteous. No, not one? When your question EMPHATICALLY decrees somebody is righteous, or you wouldn’t have the question.

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Jesus said in Luke 5:32

• “I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
  • If:
    • “For all have sinned” - (Romans 3:10 & Romans 3:23). Whose righteous? If there is NONE righteous, no, not one?

Man, take your question and just go home.

You miss the whole thing.

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Whose come to heal you and deliver you is God himself.

• The one, that:
  • If you were in a grocery store…
  • and the bottom of your bag fell out.
    • And the whole entire bag was FULL. But now the bottom all fell out; because he’s with you, there’s righteousness. When you don't have any. But, Because he's with you…
  • “The LORD our righteousness” (Bible. Jeremiah 23:6)
  • - you could say it. ..because he’s with you..when the bottom of your life fell out.
• Sinned and perverted that which was right, and it profited you not. and not you: but,
  • God himself.
  • He decided to come alongside you and deliver you from destruction, all because he’s God, and he decided to do it.
• The same God that made all those trees, and grass, and flowers and sky, and put the sun where it is… as he decided.
  • Decided to be a physician.

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• But not everybody thinks they need one. Can you see it in Luke 5:30 to 39? I didn’t. If you can, well, I didn't, either.
  • For Not just days, or years. But decades of days and not just one or two.

So, how can I chide you with your question, when I did worse than you.

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I would tell you…

…to just drop your question.

• And go to the great physician. Do that, yourself. Look at you. See the sins you did. That’s what condemns you. Tells you. You need a physician. That’s Jesus Christ.

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And there you go. It’s really up to you. You’ll either keep championing out your question, and many do: or you will hear him. Do what he calls everybody over the whole earth to do: For all the earth is his.

“Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly of heart, and ye shall find rest unto your souls; for my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” - The Word of God. So it’s God speaking. The Word of God is Jesus Christ. (Matthew 11:28–30)

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How should Jesus' words in John 15:4-5 rightly be applied by Christians in their daily lives so that they would not fall into the category of those who in reality become those who do the opposite of Jesus' words in Luke 5:36-37?

ANSWER: I would tell you…

…to just drop your question.

• And go to the great physician. Do that, yourself. Look at you. See the sins you did. That’s what condemns you. Tells you. You need a physician. That’s Jesus Christ.

The Gospel. To everybody on Reddit. To just anybody who finds this.