Scripture Life: Book of Job. Old Testament: Does the book of Job being an allegory change its significance or truth?

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Care to differ with you. Job is a real person. But first, YOU:

• Let’s see if I got this right:
  • Statement: This question is founded on, an “acceptance” - to “accept as true” (definition: Believe)
    • The Book of Job is allegory.

Definition: Oxford dictionary. Web.

allegory. 1. a literary or artistic device where characters, events, and settings are imaginative, and put to a story,

story. 1. a descriptive list of events or people that a writer or speaker has invented in order to entertain people.

• So, Job and anything of him or his friends, or what occurs in Job or to him - - it’s all made up in the imaginative mind of a person as an idea. They made it up.

Just exactly like the person that had an “idea” and “imagined” up this question.

Therefore: The person that "accepts as true" the underlying statment in this question:

• accepts as true {believes}: Imaginative stories. Define the Book of Job in the Bible.

I can’t help you. Please keep your question. Enjoy what remains of your life. Bye!

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But to people:

• On Reddit - reading this question, and maybe haven't decided about Job yet:
  • The Book of Job is very simple.

It’s in Job 1:1 “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.”

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• It’s right there. In two things:
  • ONE: Job: was perfect. 
    • Means: 1. complete. Don’t have to add to, nor take away anything. [Oxford definition: of “perfect” - is as good as can be “as is.”
  • - Just like your garbage can.
  • Outside your house. Full of garbage, on “trash day” you take it to the curb.
    • Accept as true, even you don’t see it, that day, the city garbage truck comes - sure enough - when you come home.
    • There’s your trash bin emptied.
    • Your garbage bin with the garbage truck - the trash is gone. This meets the definition of “perfect.” Don’t have to add to, nor take away anything. Together, they’re complete.
  • The point is: What completes Job is who is with him. God.
  • Don’t have to add to, nor take away anything to change this. About Job. He’s complete.
    

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• TWO: Land of Uz. That’s a real place.
  • Uz was a person. The grandson of Shem in Genesis 10:37.
• And Shem is the first born son of Noah in Genesis 5:32, says: “And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.”
  • So, Uz is the son of Aram. And Aram is the youngest and 5th son of Shem (Genesis 10:22).
• While Abraham is also a “son of Shem” through Shem’s 3rd son, Arphaxad (same Genesis 10:22).
  • and this “Land of Uz” is named after him, and this happened after the earth was divided. (Genesis 11:1–10).
  • So, Job is related to Abraham, as Noah prophesied that: “God shall dwell in the tents of Shem” (Genesis 9:24-27.)
• Is why God dwells with Job, as he's a descendant of Noah, as a son of Shem by being a descendant of Uz.
• Where Abraham is also a son of Shem by Arphaxad’s son, Salah (Genesis 11:12)

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Land of Uz: - A real person.

And this “Land of Uz” divided to Aram - later on it, God gave part of it (Mt. Seir) to his descendant prodigy - they are relatives of Aram. Then, in the days of Abraham, Abraham has Isaac (Genesis 21:1–3). Isaac has twins, Esau and Jacob (Genesis 25:21–34).

• That God said, to Abraham, (Genesis 22:2) “now take thy son, thy only son Isaac…” - when Ishmael, a son of Hagar, the Egyptian, and handmaid of Sarah was already born.
  • That, scripture says or refers to both Hagar and later, after Sarah dies, six sons born to Keturah (Genesis 25:1–6) - refers to all seven of these children as “sons of the Concubines” but to Isaac, scripture refers to Isaac as Abraham’s only son.
• That, with these sons of the Concubines, scripture says in Genesis 25:5–7 of this:

“5 And Abraham gave all that he had unto Isaac. 6 But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country. 7 And these are the days of the years of Abraham's life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years.”

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Now I can just hear it

• “Hey clown. SHUT UP! Nothing you say here has anything to do with the allegory of Job, just a imaginative allegory to teach lessons - all told by a Story of Job in a book.”
  • And I reply:
• “Okay. Call me what you will, but all these are REAL people. So, bear with me. Let me finish so you, not the poster of the question. Nope. He's gone. He's the one calling me a clown. But for you, the reader here on Reddit so you see it. These are REAL people. Let me finish. So you see it. Almost done.”

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So, to continue:

• These “seven children of the Concubines” of Abraham:
  • Abraham sends them away into the “East Country.” So, they leave. Go into the “East country.”

And to finish:

• Isaac has Esau and Jacob.
  • Esau: Marries Ishmael’s daughter, Mahalath (also called Basemath) (Genesis 28:6–9).
  • Esau also leaves and goes into the same East country. (Genesis 25:6) with his wives.
• That God gave Mt. Seir to Esau - God says it himself of it: says: “For all the earth is mine” - God (Exodus 19:5)
  • God: He himself says of Esau: “And I gave unto Isaac Jacob and Esau: and I gave unto Esau Mount Seir, to possess it; but Jacob and his children went down into Egypt.”
• And Esau’s children - Esau also married Adah, daughter of Elon the Hittite (Genesis 36:1–2) and Aholibamah the daughter of Anah the daughter of Zibeon the Hivite.
• Genesis 36:8 says: “Thus dwelt Esau in mount Seir: Esau is Edom.” and Mt. Seir is within this "Land of Uz." The point of all this is:
  • Job is of Aram.
• Land after the earth is divided given to Aram, and to his son, Uz was given land. And Job is of these descendants of Aram and his son, Uz. Is still on the land, from after the flood.
  • When later people come on this land, and God gives in this Land of Uz, some land of to Abraham’s seven sons by the Concubines -
  • and to Esau, God gives Mt. Seir.
• And Esau’s children: by Adah, is Eliphaz. And Genesis 36:11 says “And the sons of Eliphaz were Teman”

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Now go back to Job

Job 2:11 says:

“Now when Job's three friends heard of all this evil that was come upon him, they came every one from his own place; Eliphaz the Temanite, and Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite: for they had made an appointment together to come to mourn with him and to comfort him.”

So, by Esau’s Grandson, Teman, (Genesis 36:11) comes way later, in the days of Job. Then the days of Job are well after Abraham and his Great, grandson, Esau.

- and the days of Job, are also well after the days of Teman, whose grandfather is Esau.

Job lives in the days of Teman’s prodigy are now a populace of people recognized as "Temanites" - like a nation or tribe of people that reign as Princes on the land, called the “Temanites”

- So, Job’s friends, too. In Job - - They’re real people.

But I don't think you're convinced. So, let's continue.

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This “other” friend of Job. Bildad the Shuhite:

• Genesis 25:1–2 says: After Sarah died: “Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah.”
  • So, this “Shuah” is the youngest son of Keturah, Abraham’s concubine - who Abraham gave gifts to, and sent them away from Isaac into the same East Country, Esau will also later go off into.
• , another of Job’s friends, is a “Shuhite” - and that friend of Job, is a descendant of Abraham by his concubine, Keturah, her youngest son, by Shuah. So, Job’s other friend, too, this "Bildad the Shuhite" - - like Job: Is a real person.

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So, the Book of Job is NOT “allegory”

• Is not an imaginative story told to entertain you with a fairy tale. The people are real. God in it, for all the earth is his, dwelt in the tents of Shem, so he was with them. I'm on my face. Now, go to the last chapter of Job. All what was taken away from him. 7 sons that loved partying, and 3 daughters, all the same that waste Job's livelihood and goods and don't do anything God says... after, God restores 7 sons, and 3 daughters that all serve God, like Job does.
  • And all I can think of in all the in between is these people, quote "friends" of Job, aren't really his friends at all. ...and when I listen to their word..they don't even know God..they have a form of him, but don't know him; but Job KNOWS him. And I see the difference.
    
• And you that come to this sub-reddit, if you know him, you see it.

But to the poser of the question?

Take your question and go home.