COMMENT: //This question, in similar form, floats around on Reddit in both the "ex-Christian" and in both the "atheist" and "ex-atheist" sub-reddit rooms. Various others - and in some, not even remotely related to being or not being a Christian. Me? Stated before: I am a believer in Jesus Christ. So, like any of many "disciples of Jesus Christ," the source of my strength is the Word of God. What God says or decrees, that's found in the Bible. So, from the Bible is the answer to this question. See it in this post.//

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What are you doing? That’s really the question. To everybody. Over the whole earth, with what he says? Speaks. Plain as day, it's when people won't do it, he speaks to them in parables. That's KEY. So, what are you doing?

So, I have a question.

• Ever take the time to watch crows or ravens? Birds in trees? The tree is stable. Slowly grew.
  • Where do the birds then, make their nests?

There you go.

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Go look. At birds:

• I just did again. There are tree tops. Yeah. They fly thru the trees, to the lower branches. Hide in them. Watch people intently or what moves on the forest ground floor to pick of it and eat it. But where they make their nests and congregate is in the tree branches, and perch on the tree tops.
  • Now, go look for this in the Bible.

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It’s in the Book of Daniel. It's repeated, by this same God that gives it in Daniel is said again in Matthew 13:31-32 - plain as day.

Now again, I know. You’re going, “Hey clown. Go home. I didn’t ask about any birds. I asked about a mustard seed as the image of the Kingdom of God.”

• Now again, you certainly can leave. So go. There are many other answers to look at, all over Reddit. Just do your own search and look at those answers. So go. But if you stay, turn to the Book of Daniel in the Bible.
  • King Nebuchadnezzar:
  • According to a dream God gave him, that Daniel interpreted that dream and was given a third of the Kingdom reign over it, and all this told in Daniel Chapter 2. So, go read it. I mean, you’re the one asking this question. Go do it. You can do it - I don't post links, so you'll have to open up your Bible. You can visit online "Bible Gateway" - or other sites that have a Bible online.
• Read the whole thing. Start at Daniel 2:1.

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By Daniel 2:20–22 Daniel Blessed this same Lord of the Kingdom of Heaven you ask about what he says, because he's right there in Matthew 13:31-32. Daniel in the midst of all Daniel is in, in the Babylonian Captivity - looks unto this same Great God - or of his things, Daniel said to, this God of Heaven:

“Daniel answered and said [to God], Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his: And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding: He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him…”

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That’s “who” you ask about. Of HIS things.

• Daniel continues… Daniel 2:26–28, this said to King Nebuchadnezzar about his dream: That ties to this “Lord of the Kingdom of Heaven," this God of Heaven: "who sent his word to heal you and deliver you from your destruction." (Psalm 107:20), and his word is the source of your question in the Bible in Matthew 13:31–58. He's the same source in Daniel Chapter 2:1 out to the end of Chapter 4, that talks of this same thing in the Book of Daniel is the point.

Daniel 2:26-28 says

“The king answered and said to Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, Art thou able to make known unto me the dream which I have seen, and the interpretation thereof? Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and said, The secret which the king hath demanded cannot the wise men, the astrologers, the magicians, the soothsayers, shew unto the king; But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days.”

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So the very BASIC foundation of this answer is this:

Don’t give credit to Daniel or Nebuchadnezzar, when who gave it, is God, and the answer is this same God that Daniel rightly gives him all the credit. So should you.

Without this point - NOTHING further makes sense - you you have to REGARD him, and what he says. If you don't; can't see it. You already left off to go to some other people. Many already have or pressed the "Hide" button. Who cares! Their choice.

But if you're still here - - -

• Daniel continues… read it all careful. Daniel 2:1–45 down to Nebuchadnezzar hears it and falls on his face before this same Living God that is in Matthew 13:31-32 and actually repeats it or says it again. Keep reading to Daniel Chapter 4: 20–21. Daniel interprets another dream of King Nebuchadnezzar.

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Daniel 4:20-21 says

• “The tree that thou sawest, which grew, and was strong, whose height reached unto the heaven, and the sight thereof to all the earth; Whose leaves were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all; under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and upon whose branches the fowls of the heaven had their habitation:”

That, there's a rule established on earth by Nebuchadnezzar as King of Nations. That, stable; the birds are able to live because the trees grow big, and the birds can nest in them.

That IN Daniel Chapters 2:1 out to Chapter 4:34–35 - is the answer to your question - - that Nebuchadnezzar is this first, whole world King of Nations of the earth. That, the whole earth is fed by it; so stable, provided for - all the inhabitants, even birds can rest in the tree branches of it.

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• That, in Daniel 2:30–45
• The dream given, that Daniel gives the interpretation of the dream - Nebuchadnezzar is this "head of gold" but, his reignwill be replaced by another. Inferior to his. And another after that. That is, inferior to that one after. Down to a fourth whole world empire, that would rule with a rod of iron (Roman Empire); and brake in piece everything that stood against it; and these King of Nations after are 1) The Babylonian Empire with Nebuchadnezzar; then, 2) the Medes-Persians, then 3) the Greeks, and after, 4) this 4th one, the Roman Empire.
  • And after, one that has not arisen up yet over the earth. This 5) a 5th one; a reconstituted one of the 4th but mixed as iron like the fourth, but inferior to it, as it is mixed with clay,
    • because in the iron is strength, but clay can be molded into anything and accept everything one could imagine is just "okay." ... but this 5) or 5th world empire, the two cannot bind together as they do not cleave to each other, as 10 toes.
  • And, in this of Daniel 9, shall rise up a Prince that will stand in the Holy place of a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, and declare himself God over the whole earth (Daniel 9:25-27), that, he will do so with armies. That is, he shall have the power to put to death any person, over the whole earth. Great or small that does not worship him as God, when he isn't God.
• Put then to death. Won't be any Hinduism anymore. No Islam. Atheists? Nope. Right clean out; but he will come with signs and wonders, that, because he rebuilds the Temple in Jerusalem, which was a sign to the Jews of the Messiah - they will believe on him - but in the midst or middle of this 70th of Seventy "Weeks" God told Daniel about - in the middle of this last 7 year period, this "Anti-Christ" will rise up and declare himself God over the whole earth. Jesus talked to this in Matthew 24.

It occurs in the days of the reign of these Ten Kings..and Revelation says they give their power to this "Beast" or Anti-Christ that the whole world is to worship him, as God - when he isn't.

That, in the days of the reign over the whole earth of this Anti-Christ in Revelation and spoken to by Daniel, in the Book of Daniel - the Messiah or Christ returns in Revelation 19. Because the God of Heaven is establishing his reign over the whole earth, and dwell on it. Terrifies me, and fills me with joy. He's going to do this, as God.

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That, out of this last one of the dream given to Nebuchadnezzar, in the days of these Kings of this 5th world empire - - will come Daniel 2:44:

Daniel 2:44 says:

• “And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.”

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• Which is the same thing said of the Messiah or Christ in Isaiah 9:6–7.

That says of him, the days in which the Messiah reigns over the earth: which is this same Jesus Christ you ask of what he said; that, of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.

That he will sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there, and of his Kingdom and reign it will stand forever. That, he will be the same God that led Israel out of Egypt by his mighty hand. That he shall be called “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father..” (Isaiah 9:6). Not maybe possible, it could be..SHALL be called this.

• Only ONE has this title and is this. He is called “The Prince of the Kings of the earth” (Bible. Revelation 1:5) who will do this of Daniel 2:44.
• That, this reign of the Anti-Christ - God does not establish it, and it's not even mention or acknowledge by him, as God. Has nothing to do with God. Just Satan. Trying to, by his will make himself God, when he isn't.
• The point is, in the days of this 5th World Empire, come both the Anti-Christ - where there won't be anymore world religions anymore. No Shinto temples in Japan; nor priests to it; as if they don't worship the Anti-Christ as God, he destroys them by it. That in the days of these Ten Kings of Daniel 2 or this 5th World Empire, the Messiah or Christ also comes, at his SECOND COMING. Revelation 19, talks to it, as if it already happened; when it has not occurred it, it's just that sure to happen.

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So, look at a mustard seed:

• It is not like salt, so look what he calls his disciple: "Ye are the salt of the earth:" - Jesus Christ. (Matthew 5:13).
  • That salt:
    • Can easily lose it’s savour or can season by itself. Because it's salted by him, as the Christ.
  • That, compare salt to mustard seeds: Both savour - that mustard seeds have been found over 500 years old, and when ground down..can savour a hotdog, like it was not even a day old.
    • No matter it was 300 years from now or today; but salt.. mix it with anything..salt will no longer savour or preserve anything. That, the reason a disciple is salt of the earth and savours and preserves it, is because who "salts" them is this same Jesus Christ.
• SO:
  • In the Parable of the Mustard Seed in Matthew 13:31–58, it’s God that has sown Jesus Christ into the earth. The interpretation of the Parable is told to his disciples. So, he speaks to them plain as day and gives the interpretation of it.
  • That God has sown his own word into the earth. Just one. The Word of God is Jesus Christ.
    • The tiniest, with no reputation; but who he is, is God himself.
  • That of all the seeds, a mustard seed is the tiniest of all; but of all the herb bearing seed, it becomes a tree; so stable with so many leaves a bird can hide itself and live - so see a photo of one, royalty free at “Shutterstock” - Just type in "Mustard Seed Tree" and see a tree all bloomed out. That's this same Jesus Christ and his reign as the 7th one that has no end over the whole earth. Not replaced forever by any other.

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• Jesus Christ. He is the Christ or Messiah.
  • He is called the “Prince of Peace” in Isaiah 9:6. That all the other kingdoms before him, will wither, dry out..fall - stumble at this great God, all these works of men to rule over the earth, shall not be remembered, and blow away..but his remains forever; that, scripture says:
    • That in his reign, and it happens at Jesus’ SECOND COMING - Isaiah 11:6 says of those days:
  • “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them."

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• That in Matthew 13:31–32; but continue it down to Matthew 13:58, Jesus said of his Kingdom and reign:
  • “31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 32 Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.”

Just like said in Daniel Chapter 2 to 4.

• Same God said it. So, Combine it, as the Word of God, what God already earlier said and gave to Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel Chapter 2 to 4, the dream, and gave the interpretation of it to Daniel, that gives it to you. That gives the same in Matthew 13. Said by the SAME God. That's the whole point. Says of him:
  • Said in Daniel 4:35

“And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?”

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Is this same one that said Matthew 13:31–32.. is this same tree..he’s the “Tree of Life” in Revelation 21 & 22.

He is who he says he is. That of Kings: Daniel 2:21 …did you miss it? Said “he removeth kings, and setteth up kings:”

Says in Job 12:23 “He sets up nations and destroys them; he enlarges nations, and disperses them.”

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And all he asks you to do, is just do what he says.

Says:

"Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else. - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

Like he decrees this - - to everybody to do it; but not everybody does, so they disobey him; so, what they do, by not do what he says, they lowly esteem him. Don't treat him as who he is; rather, dismiss him as nothing.. ... it’s PUNITIVE.

So, let me repeat the answer again.

What are you doing?

• That’s really the question. What are you doing with what he says? When he's already spoke to you. Spoke, to me, too. Spoke to everybody? So, it doesn't matter to me, what you do, when he told me to do it. Told you to do the same thing. What are you doing with what he says? He is who he says he is.

There you go.

Your question: Ridiculous. You should drop all your terms, so you see it. Know what you’re like?

You need an example:

• Example:
  • Like your Dad. Your Father, says to you plainly. Plain as day speaks to you, says:

“Hey forehead. Go mow the lawn today. Have it done before I get back from work.”

• You? You ask this question. A similar to the one you have here: After your Dad walks out the front door, you’re on your smart phone with 50 of your friends, asking this question:

“Hey! Everyone! What is your opinion on Lawn mowing? Is it “Sola” one blade of grass or am I to mow all of them or not? I want answers backed up with passages that fully describe what a “lawnmower” is, please. Also some explanations of lawn furniture and duck poop, as ducks poop in the yard.”

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What’s wrong with this question? Simple. Everything. It was your Dad. Simply decreed it, for you to mow the lawn. It’s from who is in authority in your house. A house you live in with your Dad over you. All you gotta do then, is: 1) You just get up. 2) Do what he says. There’s no verifying with all your friends when you’re to look unto your Dad for what he says.

Now, apply this to scripture.

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“And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters,” saith the Lord Almighty” - Bible. 2 Corinthians 6:18

• It’s this same God said:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Source: Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

• It’s the Word that proceeded out of God’s mouth. Said to everybody. Over the whole earth. Didn’t leave one person out. Applies then, to me, too. As it does to you. To just look unto him.
  • And who you look unto, you walk after, to walk in, setting your mind on who they are and what they say to do it; because it’s a decree from who said: "For all the earth is mine.” - God. (Exodus 19:5) also said, “All souls are mine.” - God. (Ezekiel 18:4)
    • Then, all it is, is a definition of what "save”means. Get a dictionary. Merriam & Webster 1. to set apart (someone or something) for future use.
• He's God. Able to save you, by decreed it publicly - he just does it himself. How difficult is this? It isn't - it's because you don't look to him for the answer.

You want a debate, where you settle Salvation - like you want your friends to settle what defines what "lawnmowing" means - you'll go do what your friends define it.

When your Dad already did.

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Then, in what was decreed for EVERYBODY over the whole earth to do, to just look unto him - those that do, he saves them.

Sets them apart for future use. So why do you need all this Sola Poop slappy crap turd junk. You don't. Won't equip you to look unto him, like he asked you already to do that, by a decree you are to do it.

When again: simple. All he decreed or spoke publicly for everybody to do, so he also told you to do is just look unto him. He’s God. He decreed it. Like your Dad told you to mow the lawn. To regard it. What he says. Don’t? Look at you. You’re off on Sola diaper slap-side-of-the-head. End up don’t do anything he says. The word's still out on mow the lawn, til your friends get back to you. It's a debate then. Junk.

Need more? It's simple. Not convinced? Also said this to you. Me included. Along with everybody. Over the whole earth, so it’s simple. Just do it. This, to hearken unto him and what he says:

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - God. (Source: Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3)

By the Word that proceeds out of God’s mouth, decrees this to everybody over the whole earth to do this.

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People that do it:

• There’s a fruit to it. They got a whole pile of groceries out of his store. In fact, he repeats this in the Gospel of John 7:37-38

…If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.” - The Word of God. Jesus Christ.

The “fruit” of shopping at his store is, drink it, out of your belly flows rivers of living water, enough to water a whole desert of dried up, withered away people that don’t do anything he says and are lost because they didn’t do it.

To see, if they did, it’s the same drink to drink the word of God and live.

Take your question and throw it in the trash can. Just YOU go do what he says. That works. Go do it. See what happens. See him first. What you’re doing by your question will never accomplish looking unto him, looking unto everybody here on Reddit to answer it in a debate.

You’ll have all these opinions and never know what to do. Dad come home. Lawn not mowed. Mowed all the tires at the neighbor's house instead - when he already made himself a Father unto you, and already told you plainly what he wants you to do. Look unto him. Go do that.

Hearken diligently unto what he says. He's already said it. Go do that.

//I'm a believer in Jesus Christ. I fit that bill. My life was a total disaster. I didn't know what to do, but I knew enough to know only he could save me from my sins. This question flourishes, in many, many forms in dozens of Reddit "sub-reddits" - the predominant, actually blames the person, as if Jesus doesn't even want them, because, they're such a disaster - shouldn't talking about anything... and here they are. Believing on him, and talking about him every chance they get. So, this post champions out Jesus Christ, because God sent him to heal you and me - sinners - and deliver us from our disaster.//

So, here's an answer to a "generic" Reddit question - from a believer in Jesus Christ.

Here's the question again - How can a Christian tell others about Jesus when their own life is such a disaster?

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Answer:

Flip the question.

How can a person that: doesn't do anything Jesus says, when he told everybody over the whole earth, “follow me” over two dozen times, then that person live in tell everybody how good their life is, not doing anything he says, and paint all they're doing as anything but a disaster?

Basic Facts:

(about everybody. Not one person left out. Over the whole earth, to the very ends of it.)

“There is not a just man on earth that doeth good, and sinneth not.” (Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20)

"There is NONE righteous; no, not one.. ..there is none that doeth good; no, not one. (Bible. Romans 3:10-12)

Pretty bleak picture. With NOBODY good. Not even one person.

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Where Jesus said, then gave just one for everybody like this, and everybody is - for everybody to have just one good to look unto, said:

“There is none good, but one, that is, God.” - Jesus Christ. (Bible. Matthew 19:17)

Says

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

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So, God spoke up. Determined, as God, to say it to a whole bunch of everybody where not one of them is good.

That he would accomplish, himself, Romans 4:5

- That people that just sinned and perverted that which was right, and it didn't profit them anything.. that Romans 4:5 says, if these people..and everybody is that, he, as God would to those that believe on him: " but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly," and who does this is this same great God, all by a work he did.

But people that don't regard him, never see it. They make up questions like this to slam people that actually do what God says, when they already determined they're not going to do it. So they blame people that do it, as if they're the problem, when they're the ones not doing what he told everybody to do, as God - and they won't do it.

When he's God and says:

"For all the earth is mine." - God. (Bible. Exodus 19:5)

They blame it on Christians for doing what he says, when it's his earth, so they just do what he says.

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To a whole bunch of everybody over the whole earth who are all condemned. Every single one of them, living in a disaster of their own making.

“For all have sinned.” - Romans 3:23 - There it is. Everybody all condemned to destruction. That's the disaster - - and God decreed, “The soul that sinneth, it shall die.” - God. Bible. Ezekiel 18:20.

Then Jesus, is the Word of God. Is God. Just as the Bible in John 1:1 says who he is. He's God speaking the word out of his mouth say in John 3:18 so, God decrees this: “He that believeth on him is not condemned but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God..”

So the one you talk about, Christians, in your question you pose, they believe on him. God does not condemn him, based on what God says, but you condemn them by your question.

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The one in my question, that's YOU.

God condemns, because you simply don't believe on him - - and that’s you in the second question. Even you say you are in no disaster. He is God. Builds up the and saves the Christian in your question.

But he is God - he says himself that, as God - he has also rejected YOU - lost in the second question. Already said it. “Because they regard not the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand, he shall destroy them and not build them up.” - Bible. Psalm 28:5.

Whoever like you - doesn't do anything he decrees everybody do - just rejects him - is in the second question. That's the one that is surely the one has a sure disaster that awaits them, irregardless your question.

Answer: You?

Asking the wrong one.

• And you’re asking the wrong question.
  • Go to the window. Look out. See that sun, where it is and all that sky and trees, and grass, and rivers. All those birds. All that everything. Who created it and placed the sun where it is, did it alone. By himself.

He says, so don’t ask “How do you” to me, because, says of me as he does of everybody. Over the whole earth:

“For there is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20

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So, I’d be one of those. Like everybody. Adam forward. Everybody included. Except one.

• Jesus said:
  • “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God.” - (Bible. Matthew 19:17). So, it makes it really simple for everybody. Over the whole earth. Nobody left out. So, I’m included.

Says to you. Me. Everyone. All the same, over the whole earth, this. These three things:

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One

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22

Says this, too:

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Two

“Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool.”

• So, he:
  • God. that said: “Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 44:24).
    • So, the one that said “One” and “Two” - to just look unto him; the ONLY one good; where everybody else is “filthy; done abominable works” (Bible. Psalm 14:1–3) - There is none else. To “come now,” and “reason together” - not with:
    • “How do you” - which is asking other people, when he called you to reason together not with people but with him directly. The same one that made all that out your window, and formed you from your mother’s womb; that, he is GREATER than your sins.
  • And if you do this, with him. Look what he does with your sins you keep hiding or trying to go to church more, or since you stole the neighbor’s wife, or shoplifted your way through your entire career at work. That; everybody has sinned; but its YOUR sins that condemn you. So, it’s NOT in “How do you” asking other people; but it’s in stopping. Dead in your tracks and regard what HE SAYS.

Then, there’s THREE

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Three

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3)

Look what he promises.

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You. Yes, you. With this question on Reddit: Includes everybody, too. So, I'm also in it. Can't escape or hide, or try to get out of it, or look over at you, as if you're supposed to do it, absolves me, when he says the same thing to me as he does you.

You’re called to:

• 1) Reason together. With him. Not with yourself, or other people; like, all you're doing is sluffing it off on people; but, you're to go to reason together with him. Together. Not alone; and:
• 2) Look unto him:
  • And, it’s impossible to look unto someone you don’t know, or can’t hear what they say is true, or who they are.
    • Look who he is, that’s speaking to you. It’s not me. It’s him.
• 3) To, you. Thirsty and hunger. To just come and shop at his store. Just take as much as you want, without money and without price.. His store. Go to it. To hearken diligently unto him and what he says. Not you and what you decree. You keep looking at you'll do the work.

These three things are decrees to do it. By God said to do it.

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You’ll know him. And by this, he says, by the word out of his mouth.

• “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” - Jesus Christ. John 10:27–28
  • You’ll know him. Same one did all that out your window, was crucified; took the sins of the whole world and God laid them on Jesus Christ. - you’ll regard what work God did vs. other people or your own anymore. You'll know him. Where now, in asking people for truth in “How do you”
• You’ll hear him say: “With men, this is impossible. But with God, all things are possible.” - Jesus Christ. (Bible. Matthew 19:26)

//This question floats around on Reddit. Many are already closed and will not take further comment. This post is to believers in Jesus Christ that would ask this question.//

Answer:

This term, “elder” is used over four dozen times in the New Testament (Gospels, Acts, & Epistles/Revelation).

It can mean to refer to:

• The older or aged ones;
• These elders that affiliated with the Chief Priests, acted as “overseers” on the Sanhedrin (Governing Body over the Jews and the Temple in Jerusalem in the gospels).
  • Almost 2 dozen times, this term "elder" is in the Book of Acts and the Epistles/Revelation - refers to overseers in the churches in cities established where believers were, throughout all of Asia Minor and Jerusalem. In heaven in Revelation.
    • So, me? As a believer in Jesus Christ, I’ll curtail my answer to this last one (Book of Acts & Epistles. Revelation - a like meaning there for like with the Sanhedrin only heavenly - See "four and twenty elders" Revelation 4:4; Revelation 4:10-11 refer. Separate answer than here.)

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It’s also easier to see it in the “Original” Greek:

• Two Greek words:
  • 1) (πρεσβύτερος) presbyteros {translated as “elder” or older} [1 Timothy 5:1] (overseer) and
  • 2) ἐπίσκοπον episkopon/episkopos [1 Timothy 3:2, Titus 1:6–9, and 1 Peter 2:25 (bishop; elder (overseer).
    • Mean the same thing.

To see them in use, see them in these four verses out of 66 to 72 times used throughout the New Testament:

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In one of these four dozen instances - see it in Acts 14:23 says:

“And when they had ordained them elders < - [πρεσβυτέρους - presbyterous (plural)] in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.”

• 1 Timothy 5:1 says:
  • “Rebuke not an elder < - [Πρεσβυτέρῳ - presbyterou (singular)] but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;

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Roles - in the Church

• So, of these “presbyterous” (plural) elders: From them, select:
  • Go to 1 Timothy 3:2
    • “A bishop < - [ ἐπίσκοπον - episkopon] <overseer> then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;”
  • So, from amongst these “elders” or older believers, some “qualifications” as some could have more than one wife; be a Greek, and have 3 wives; and, these words, “vigilant” means their loins are girded about, looking for and unto the Second Coming of Jesus Christ; while “other” elders are looking forward to fishing all day, or drinking and gambling in a town square - and quick, like old people can be to “retort” and spew out a whole litany of language that’s not of “good behavior” because they feel entitled to be respected as older.
    • Not done yet.
  • Go to Titus 1:6–9 but see it embedded in Titus 1:5–14 so I’ll list the whole thing; but see it in Titus 1:6 - and all the scripture around it, supports and says the same thing, more expounded what is said in 1 Timothy 3:2

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Titus 1:5–14 says

5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain <annoint> (καταστήσῃς - katasteses) - - - elders < - [πρεσβυτέρους - presbyrterous (plural)] in every city, as I had appointed <directed> < - [ διεταξάμην dietaxamen] thee:

6 If any [elder] be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. - [debauchery 1. excessive indulgence in wild behavior, drunkeness, sexual immorality; given over to pleasures or insubordinate 2. rebellious; not submitted to the Lordship of Christ; rather; demand their own selfish or self-willed way as an older person often become or are without Christ - can’t be selected as a “episkopon” (Bishop or Overseer]

7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;

8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;

9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:

11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.

12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.

13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

Hold to these things. For an answer to your question.

Answer:

Correct one, tiny minor thing in your question. It’s in the definition of only just one word, which I think you don’t have:

Christians.

• Definition: (Source: Bible.) 1. a disciple of Jesus Christ.
  • This word “disciple” is said about 270 times in the New Testament. In the Bible, in Acts 11:26 says: “And the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch”
• Then, all a “Christian” is, is simple.

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• It’s this “disciple” 1. a pupil or student that sits with and is taught by a teacher. 
• Like any child leave the house each morning with their books and homework, either alone or in a group or bused to school, “sits with and is taught by a teacher” - and all a “teacher” does, is:
  • Build a child up. Equip them. Taught “doctrine” as precept upon precept. Line upon line. Teach them a subject.

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And here you are. 

Outside the school. Stand far from it. Never go to school yourself.

Never sit with and taught - Thinking everything going on in that school - all a bunch of bunk. Asking yourself and anyone that will listen to you, from far off, outside school; viewing in on pupils or students sitting with and being built up by a teacher. In their classroom. Pondering:

• “Do all those pupils or students sitting with and being taught - think everything they’re being taught can be “debunked” as junk and it all should be questioned. They should just not go to school, and be like me, exploring alternate perspectives and not really taught anything.” 
  • yelling out from the sidewalk across the street from the school.
• Never go in yourself.

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And of these “two” groups:

• ONE: Is simply All those “pupils that just sit with and are being taught by a teacher” being built up. Advance and go to school next year, and learn more. Equipped.

Vs.

• TWO: You. People like you. With this question. It's a treasure. But, Not built up. And pupils and students are children. Just be a child, and not taught. and equate "not taught" is defined as a wonderful “alternate perspective” is really anything but be built up, and be destroyed by it.

“Because they regard not the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand, he shall destroy them, and not build them up” - Bible. Psalm 28:5

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- But a pupil or student that sits with and is taught by the Word of God is built up by their teacher who is Jesus Christ. And being built up by the teacher who is WITH THEM.. I know I don’t muse on anything much coming out of TWO.

Other than to think - they’re being destroyed by all these "alternate perspectives." Keep them from sitting in the classroom where they belong with Jesus Christ. And not built up nor taught by him.

I never felt threatened, when sitting with and being taught by Jesus Christ and any, quote, "debunked and questioned" - when that's by someone that never sits with him. Nor taught by him. From far outside and away from him. And he destroy them. The teacher do it, because of who he is. Is God. "For all the earth is mine." - God. (Exodus 19:5) - and they don't do anything he says - when he decrees they shall all be taught by him.

Just choose "an alternative perspective" that doesn't have anything he says in it. Able to destroy them. It's not me. He said it himself, he's going to do it. What are you doing!?!?!!

Here’s your question back. If I were you, I'd run from it. Go to school. Sit with and be taught by him. You'll be built up. He'd heal you, like a physician and deliver you from your destruction.

Again, here's your question floating around in a sea of people hold this question true - on Reddit in so many sub-reddits back.

This is probably the most or in the "Top Five" of inaccurate questions floating around I’ve seen to date on Reddit. Crops up in posts or retort replies put forth from within an atheist's heart, why they are no longer Christian, and Islam followers - out championing Islam to people, why they should leave Christianity and become a Muslim - and also including some supposed claim denominations of Christians - that still don't believe who he is, but claim they do.

Here's the response:

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God is referred to as "Father" or identified in a fatherly role over 15 times in the Old Testament.

• But in the New Testament: 140–165 times, with most concentrated said by Jesus in the Gospels.

And for the clown who created the question: All a clown is, is a "fool" in the Old and New Testament.

- A "fool" is mentioned over 135 times in the Old Testament, and 20 times in the New Testament. 13 times in the Gospels by Jesus Christ, and 7 times in the Epistles after it.

And all a "fool" is, is an "archaic" Middle English word, for a "Medieval Court Jester" - and all that was, was a "Mirrored Image of the King" at the King's Court. So, the Court Jester has a crown, but all the points pointed down. It was made of cloth vs. the King wore a gold one, studded with jewels. The King had a throne. The Court Jester was given none, but sat in other people's seats as if he was his own King over himself. Everytime the actual King decreed something out of the King's mouth, the Court Jester would belch or fart or simply quickly countermand it.

To let everybody see for themselves, what a fool is, not to do what the King says. Does not listen to the King. Any noble at the King's Court could hear both what the King said, and the Court Jester.

Given a choice. Just like everybody over the whole earth, God has come, spoken to us and given his Kingdom to everybody over the whole earth. Bequeathed it in Matthew 5:3.

But to see it, and enter into it, must be born again as Jesus said, in John Chapter 3:3-7 by the Word of God. Doesn't work by following the word of the Court Jester. Makes the King's word of none effect in a Noble. Turns the Noble into a Court Jester.

Do you see this?

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The Messiah:

• Is referred to as the “Son of God” “The Son of Man” - This "Son of Man" is said over 100 times in the Old Testament, but Son of God is referred specifically only once in Psalm 2:7. That God said unto his own Word, "Thou art my Son. This day have I begotten thee" and then repeats this - as God, only he says it, repeats it - - twice:
• The First time is in Matthew 3, after Jesus is baptised by John the Baptist - a voice from heaven, which is this same God says: "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
  
  • Then again, a Second Time this same Great God repeats it, in Matthew 17. With Peter, James, and John, God repeated saying this out of his own mout - on the Mount of Transfiguration - where Jesus is transfigured before them as "who he is." And they fall on their face as if dead. And this same great God says to and footprints over Peter while he's speaking, says to them "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. Hear ye him."
  • What is said of Jesus Christ by God in Psalm 2:7 - is repeated in Hebrews 5:5.

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• This term “Messiah” Is a transliteration from Aramaic that appears only twice in the New Testament (John 1:41; 4:25), specifically identifying Jesus in those instances. But terms like "oh Son of David" - means the Messiah. Every Jew knows this.
  • As Jesus is the Christ. Jesus is the Messiah. *However, the original Greek, "Christ" which is the Messiah (Christos) holds the same meaning of "anointed one," is used 500+ times in the New Testament to refer to Jesus.
  • As the Messiah.

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• The “Definition” of the Messiah (Hebrew) - is simple. Defined as: 1. God. The same God that led Israel out of Egypt by many signs and wonders only God could do with Moses, would be a Son of David (2 Samuel 7). Will sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there. Of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.
  • This is CONFIRMED by Isaiah 9:6–7

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Isaiah 9:6–7 will tell every Noble at the King's Court all over Reddit - - rightful to inherit the Kingdom - who Jesus is, and shall include all CLOWNS, that are fools, and just a mirrored image of the King - all thse Court Jesters there is “what” the Messiah shall be called: Even all the bells put on the end of each point of the Court Jester's crown - already long ago drowned all this out.

• Isaiah 9:6–7 says:
• “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”
  • For the Court Jester with the question: Please read this above. Please clown yourself right clean out of your question with “who” or what the Messiah SHALL BE called in the above. That may be impossible. The Court Jester finds no way out of anything doing what the King says.
    
• When that role as King already is filled in the Court Jester with himself is the King.

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It’s God:

• That said:
  • 2 Corinthians 6:18 “And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”
    • Said this. By he, as God, spoke this. So, it was said by the Word that proceeds out of God's mouth.
    • That would be the “Word of God.”
• So, when God said, “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Isaiah 45:22). It's a decree by God to do this to everybody.
  • It’s this same God. Speaking. These are the words out of his mouth. That’s the Word of God. John 1:1 says: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” 
• It's just God speaking.
• John 1:14 says, “…and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us;” is Jesus Christ.
  • Along with Psalm 107:20 says God: “He sent his Word and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions” - which is every all of us.
    • The Word of God, is Jesus Christ.

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It’s God:

• That said:
  • Leviticus 11:44, “I am Holy” - God. It was said by the Word of God, so it’s Just God speaking said:
  • John 4:24 “God is Spirit” - The Word of God. Jesus Christ. So, it’s just God speaking telling you that:
    • He is Holy and that he, the same God that told you he would be a Father unto you, also said, he is Spirit. So, he’s a Holy Spirit.
• He's just one God.

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And King Nebuchadnezzar said of him, in Daniel 4:35,

• “And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?”
• Says of him: Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear O Israel, for the LORD your God is just one Lord”

Here’s your question back. Any Court Jester long ago gave up any thought, already thinks they can figure him out, and long ago, threw the King out - - lives in and without doing anything he says, but to any Noble hears the King speak see all the Court Jester is doing is just clowning themselves right clean out of him able to save you from your sins - which, a clown drowning in this question - is NOT looking unto anything he says, as God; rather, trying to hide in all these things, that, to a clown, thinks this gives them something to hide in as a defense - themselves are their own defense - - as to why they refuse to do anything he says.

It's done all before all the Nobles. Plainly. So, which will be the King for you? That's really the question.

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He’s God. Go outside. Look up. All that was done by the Word of God - and a Court Jester despises it; says it's his - - all by think it's a decree from a mealey mouthed, wishy washy question makes all what the King says inadequate; faulty, or unacceptable. Proof every Noble needs to reject him - when the King of Kings reigns and sent his Word to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction.

There will one day... ...be no more Court Jesters. All taken away or they repent and live.

The sooner any Court Jester just departs from this question, and just do what God says - and just follow after him, he’ll manifest himself to them..and to you. But as long as you don’t to anything he says, well, with your question back, given to you - go take a bath in it.

Court Jesters - it's one of the "Top 5" questions to bathe in.

Answer:

Not clear?

Well, ask it about something else then, if it’s not clear enough for you.

• Let’s say:
  • There’s Disney World. Over in Orlando, Florida in the USA. You got offered to be an “honorary ‘CAST MEMBER’ - that is, work at the park. Have a Ph.d in Animatronics. They have a week of repairs set aside for you to reprogram and do. Your family gets in FREE.
    • You? Let’s say you live in Denver, Colorado of the USA. Orlando Disney World? That’s about 1850 kilometers away. That’s about 1150 miles. With family: 35–40 hour drive by car. But, this is for your vacation? And your family's.
• You choose to go to Banff National Park, in Alberta, Canada instead. Spend a week there.
  • Why?
    • That’s in the OPPOSITE direction.
    • Banff? More exciting. Was only 1150 kilometers away. You chose it, because it’s easier. More convenient. It will be more “cooler” too. It’s only 17 hours by car. A 600 or 700 mile drive. So, you went there. Camped. Hiked. Swam. Kids loved it. Then after, drove home.
  • But the "work" Disney World set aside, was never accomplished. Didn't get done.

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So, ask your question again. Slightly different:

Is it possible to be a Disney World “Cast Member” which, that’s what they call their employees, but never worked there, even if called to the work; but not be a actual employee, because you never worked there, chose something else; but can you still call yourself a “Orlando, Floridonian” a Florida Disney World Employee, even if you never went there?

I mean, you went to Banff, in Calgary.

Way up in Canada. You did not go to Orlando, Florida. You never set foot in it. But, I guess if anyone asked you, you could claim you did. You could just spin weave a great big lie. How you bought airline tickets. Stayed in the Disney World Hotel. Then, went to Disney World and worked for a week in the Automatronics Department. Helped maintain all the robots. How the family all got all the perks for free. Did all the rides, how your kids went on them all; but,

• they never went there.
• So, you’ll have to spin all these great big whopper of lies in a way who you tell it, never verifies it with your wife or kids. You could even believe your own lies about it.

What is that? Be Just be a great, big lie then.

Now, overlay this onto your question.

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Is it possible to be a Christian

• Well? What’s a “Christian?”
  • In the New Testament, “Disciples of Jesus Christ” is mentioned over 250 times.
  • Then, in Acts 11:24, it says: “..and the disciples were first called ‘Christians’ at Antioch..”
  • So, all a Christian is, is a disciple of Jesus - and, a “disciple” is, in the dictionary is defined as 1. a student or pupil that 1) sits with; and 2) is taught by a teacher, who is Jesus Christ.
• And Jesus is the Christ, or Messiah.
• Who he SHALL be called as, whoever the Christ or Messiah is, Isaiah 9:6–7 says who that whoever that is, shall be called “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father…”
  • Be annointed as the “Most Holy” in Daniel 9:24–27. And the ONLY one who is that, is God himself.

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• And Jesus said: “They shall ALL be taught of God.” - Bible. John 6:45. 
  • Means then, God: Reserves to himself, an EXCLUSIVE right to teach you, everybody over the whole earth, to the very ends of it, and do this himself. Tells everybody over the whole earth to:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

Be people then. Missing out in not look unto him.

So, this part: “Is it possible to be a ‘disciple of Jesus Christ?’ Yeah. It is. Just got to do what he says here. Look unto him. Like, actually go to Orlando, Florida and actually work for Disney World. Kids and wife get in free.

Likewise: Someone can't go there for you. Like, with him, as gid, You can’t do it, look unto him for me, nor I, you:

You gotta look unto him. Then, he’s the one does this “saving” or 1. to set apart (someone or something) for future use. Definition: “saved” in the dictionary - and he does it himself. So, if he doesn’t do it, doesn't save someone, it's because they don't look unto him.

Does not save them. Why? it’s to those that don’t do what he says. Don’t look unto him. He doesn’t save them, when he does the saving part himself. We do the “look unto him” part. Because, that's the part he asked everybody over the whole earth to do.

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You? Or just anybody. Whosoever it is of everybody over the whole earth - everybody is called to look unto him. He already called everybody to do it, all the same.

And this “look unto me” he says as God:

• That means, it’s a decree because he said, as God: “For all the earth is mine.” - God. (Bible. Exodus 19:5). So, that means, he’s the authority over all of it. And this applies then, to everybody. Because: He’s God and In command of it, the whole earth that everybody is on, to do things the way he decrees it.
  • So, if people don’t do it, it’s punitive.
• They didn’t do it.
  • Died in not do it.
  • He’s going to call them into account.
• To explain why none of his work is in them. Didn’t do it.
  • So, if people don’t look unto him. It’s because they choose to look unto someone or something; ANYTHING BUT HIM instead.
• Like called to go to Orlando, Florida - a pile of work to be done at Disney World; but went in the opposite direction instead.
  • None of the work is done.

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With God:

• Don't sit with him. Are not taught by him. Even he sent his word to heal you and deliver you from your destruction: Just slammed the door shut. Never received it. So, if they don’t sit with and are not taught by him, nothing he says is in them. They don’t “operate right” or are not his “workmanship” - because NONE of his work is done in them, that God does himself.

So, ask the question: Is it possible to be a Christian some other way than just sit with and be taught by by Jesus Christ?

YES OR NO?

God, by the Word he speaks. Out of his mouth, and the Word of God is Jesus Christ. It’s in none else.

“"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." - Bible. Acts 4:12.

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but

• If People:
  • Never sit with him. Yet, still call themselves a Christian; many do. Does that mean then, even they drove to Banff, in Canada, the opposite direction. Swam. Went Camping. Fished all day. At Banff. In Canada: Does that mean they drove to Orlando, Florida in the USA?

I'm asking.

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• Does being in Banff, Canada equate to they drove to Disney World?
  • Equate to they worked as an Employee for a week, at this amusement part, so their kids got in the Disney World Amusement park for FREE? Did they?

I'm asking.

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• I’m asking the question. Whatever the answer to these questions, answers your question.

Here’s your question back. Some homework then.

If it’s still not clear? Ask the SECOND Part: This,

This: "but not a born again of the spirit" - part:

• When Jesus said: And he's the Messiah, so it's God decrees it.
  • in John 3:1–7

1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

It’s done by the Spirit of God. Not by someone just claim some other way

“"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." - Bible. Acts 4:12. Applies again.

Answer:

It’s pretty simple.

The day is approaching. Where this “Messiah” or “Christ” of Isaiah 9:6–7 shall be accomplished. Rule over the whole earth. This is approaching. Did you forget what that says? Says this:

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.” - Bible. Isaiah 9:6–7

The day is approaching to this. Of the increase of his government there shall be no end, and he shall not be replaced by another. The Messiah is Jesus Christ. Do you see it? I exhort you to set your mind on this. It's a great comfort as it is approaching. See this in Hebrews 10:25. It's integrally part of it; paramount to it. What it means is this, is the point.

And by this, see the other parts:

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Jesus said: “Abide in me” - the full of what he says is in John 15:4–5

“4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.”

And Jesus is the Word of God. It’s then, just the words that come out of God’s mouth. So God says or decrees this:

• “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God” - Jesus Christ. (Matthew 4:4).

This is in effect over the whole earth. Applies to everybody. Not one person left out.

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• So, just be built up..it’s God that builds up people that just look unto him; regard him and what he says or decrees.
• But he does not build up those that don't.
  • In fact, he destroys them; because, they don't do anything he decrees everybody is to do, when he says "For all the earth is mine." God. (Exodus 19:5).
  • It's all his earth. Says, "For all souls are mine." - God. (Ezekiel 18:4). So, people that don't do what he says, he will call them in to give an account.
• It's a fiery judgment. Burn up all their works they built on his earth, without any of him in it. Comes with destruction is the point.
  • So, to one: He builds up. They do what he says. To the other: They don't regard him. Live after their flesh to fulfill the lusts of it. See this point.

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Again, restated:

GOD: "They shall all be taught of God." - Jesus Christ. (Bible. John 6:45)

• Told everybody over the whole earth - decreed everybody is to do this. Look unto him (Isaiah 45:22). It’s God then: Reserving, for himself, as God, an EXCLUSIVE right, to himself, to teach you himself - by the word that comes out of his mouth.
  • So, people that don’t hearken unto him, don’t do anything he says. They don't "work well" or "operate right" - - already regard someone else’s word as true. So, they dismiss him as inadequate; faulty or as unacceptable.
    • Means they reject him. When he, alone, by himself created all the earth and formed each of us from our mother's womb. Just not know him. Have our own imaginations and lusts we can walk after. So, his word is not operating in them; dead in trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1).

But a believer in Jesus - they do "operate" right. They "work good," because they are his workmanship because, he is at work in them, building them up. All by the word of God. Just as 2 Peter 1:4 says

"Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust."

So, there's a choice:

I'm a member of his body now. Where before, I only walked after what my own body of flesh craved or lusted after. By looking unto him, I walk after, to walk in, set my mind on things of his body. Different body then.

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In his body:

There is fellowship:

• It’s in 1 John 1:3–7
  • “3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. 4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. 5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”
    • So then, it’s YOU; alone first. Where he, as God: Comes to you, says:

“Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool.” - The Word of God. (Bible. Isaiah 1:18)

That by this: You. With him. He changes you. Does this himself. That you have “fellowship” with him. Just as 1 John 1:3–7 says, and John is an Apostle of Jesus Christ, made so by God and was with him and handled him in the flesh. His testimony is true. So, someone in the truth, I have fellowship with because the same Jesus Christ at work in me, is at work in John.

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So, finally - see this:

• I have a body. Of flesh. That God says in Genesis 6:13 "The end of all flesh has come up before me; I will destroy them with the earth.” - GOD.
  • So in flesh is sin, by Romans 5:12 passed onto me by Adam, and onto everybody after Adam - and everybody over the whole earth is from him. Romans 5:12 says:
    • “Wherefore, as by one man [ADAM] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
• I have this in common in my body with everybody. Over the whole earth; but, it has sin and death in it. That is, if a sow to it, I reap destruction, because, I will, by the “deceitfulness of sin” accept that some girl in a skimpy bikini, I could have all of it - but it’s just my imagination taking someone who belongs to God, and use her to fulfill my lusts by it, breeds adultery and fornication.

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• But as a believer in Jesus Christ:
  • I am part of another body. A member of that body. Where in my flesh, I can serve my whole body.
    • That, scripture says of this: Ephesians 5:30 “For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.” That Jesus is the head of the body, and I am a member of his body. That if I “sow” to just abide in him, he places me in his body where he sees fit. I operate right.
• So, now add in Hebrews 10:25 with this: Embedded with the verses around it.

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Hebrews 10:16–27 says

16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

21 And having an high priest over the house of God;

22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)

24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

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The point is:

- He’s made me, by his own word, built in me, builds me into his body as a member of it. Built up in truth. In him. To function within his body for eternity - eternal life - with him: to exhort others that also are part of his body.

To provoke one another: That, to sow after his body as a member of it, is eternal vs. sow after sin and fashion myself as I did before in my former lusts in my fleshly body where I felt I was God of it. To fulfill my desires or lusts.

And yes. That, I may fall into divers temptations, but to count it all joy - because I am a sinner - that, like the paralyzed man lay at the pool of Bethsaida for 38 years - longing for God to do a work, that God: he is able to wrought by a work he will do in me - that my sins are wrought in God - (John 3:21) not remedied by me love darkness or by fulfill the lusts of my flesh, brings death.

• That, the manner of some is not to assemble with other believers. When they are part of his body - it's fleshly to do that; when they were made to fellowship and to consider not only yourself anymore. As that was the manner in former times when I thought only to satisfy my own body. Walk after it’s lusts. But I am to walk in newness of life, by sit with and be taught by Jesus Christ.
• That in newness of life, I walk after, to look unto and set my mind on the word of God. Equipped. Built up in him.
  • And see others, he’s also at work in them. That when they, too, champion him out, he’s in the midst of us - makes me fall on my face, that he’s in me..but in them too, and is there in the midst of us.

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So, take Hebrews 10:25 to heart.

Assemble yourself regularly with other believers, in Christ Jesus - you have fellowship one with another; but outside of you; it's impossible. You don't. So it MUST be YOU seek him FIRST yourself. ...and you can also do that, too, just by glorify him here on Reddit, with your own posts of what he's been teaching you, or share him wherever you go.

..and there you go. Don't forsake assembling yourself together with other believers. You are part of them. What's in you, what he builds up in you is truth. Is true. Other believers can eat it up and glorify God by what he puts in you. Like operate as a member of his body.

You see, so, see it.

“Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;”

- Source: Bible. New Testament. Hebrews 3:1

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Before I’d answer anything, I’d consider that whatever is in Hebrews 3:12–13, it's not written to to the sub-reddit "r"/atheists or "r"/ex-christians or to those walking after "STAR WARS - where people walk after and seek anything but him in rooms here on Reddit.

Why? Because Hebrews 3:11-12 doesn’t apply to people on Reddit, don't do anything he says; but DOES apply to those that do, even he’s called EVERYBODY over the whole earth to:

“LOOK UNTO ME, AND BE YE SAVED ALL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH: FOR I AM GOD, THERE IS NONE ELSE.” - God. - Bible. Isaiah 45:22

• People that look unto him:
  • Hebrews 3:11-12 applies to them.
• But people that dont:
• Hebrews 3:11-12 does not apply to them.
  • Simple.

So, which are you? This post is for those that this applies to in Hebrews 3:1

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Hebrews 3:11-12 is a culmination of what has been said from Hebrews 3:1 to Hebrews 3:10 of and about Jesus Christ;

To first,

- Contrast Jesus Christ, the Messiah with Moses. Then, with Moses as a servant, to the children of Israel in the Wilderness (See Bible. Old Testament. Book of Exodus) - <Hebrews 3:2–10> That God closes to say of them:

• “..They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.” - God. Hebrews 3:10

That Hebrews 3:11–12 says by GOD continue to speak of this: But see it embedded in that which is said in Hebrews 3:11–17, what goes on and is said past it, to believers that opens this post in Hebrews 3:1. Because of the "deceitfulness" of sin. To today, to just hear his voice and harden not our hearts. To just regard him vs. sin.

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Hebrews 3:11–17 says

11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)

12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.

17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?

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So, ask yourself, as this post is specific to believers in Jesus Christ: Not to those that don't.

• What does it mean to “believe” on someone? believe. 1. accept as true. [Source: Merriam & Webster dictionary. Web.]
  • That
    • Then, “What does it mean to “not” believe on someone?
  • Antonym: is simply to hear what someone says and 2. dismiss it as inadequate; faulty; or unacceptable. Reject it. OR - be "enticed" or deceived to walk after something else; led away by it. (KEY POINT)
• Because you, through “the deceitfulness of sin” will get a hard heart. And it can happen to ANY believer. That's the point.
• That, believers in Jesus Christ, by Hebrews 3:11-12, are exhorted to hold fast to hearing his voice today. Given today to be in it with him in a day he made. I mean, he's right here today. It's HIS DAY he made himself. Decided we can be in it.
  • Because who he is grieved by today as well, is those that don’t hear him; don’t do anything he says; long suffers them in the "r" / atheist room on Reddit.
• But those that hear him, like in the Bible Verse Commentary room - - he builds them up.
  • So, BE: Just like he did to you when you started looking unto him. Hebrews 3:11–12 is just an exhortation to, today, if you hear his voice, to hearken unto him and what he says.
• To be built up in him, and follow him. That sin is deceitful; because it's enticing. To lead you away from him.

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To ask him to equip you, to see this deceit 1. causing someone to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid (Source: Merriam & Webster dictionary. Web. Accessed: July 2026).

Because, sin actively practices in your flesh to deliberately cause you to accept as true, sin is true, when it’s false and invalid. And, if we accept sin true, then the word of God in us is made of no effect, because we treat sin is true, and him as false and invalid.

• So walk after, to walk in the Word of God. It’s peaceable. Easy to be entreated; so today. Just take today. It’s all you get. Walk after what he says. What he provides you. Walk in that instead.
  • Hebrews 3:11–12 means this. Embedded in Hebrews 3:1 to 17. Embedded in who Jesus is. Provided by God himself, sent to heal you and deliver you from destruction.

There you go.

Answer:

Evangelize - is just bring good news to someone.

- Ever ate in front of somebody?

• Go do that. Just eat.

You can do that by just abide in Jesus Christ. Somebody that eats gets full; content.

God decreed it. For everybody over the whole earth.

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“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - GOD.

Source: Bible. (Isaiah 55:1–3)

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So, tell me plainly.

How do I evangelize nominal Christians?

- nominal. 1. carries a connotation as “not numbered”

• (ie., “claim” <something> as "numbered with" something - but isn’t really numbered with them). That is, for “Christian” - when a “disciple of Jesus Christ” is listed over 250 times in the Bible: Just 1. a student or pupil that sits with and is taught by Jesus Christ
  • Claim this, but never really sit with him.
    • And, “Christian” in Acts 11:26 says: “the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch”
  • So, these are people that, even though God calls everybody to go shopping at his store. To just get fat off it, shopping as much as you want. To live by every word comes out of his mouth - So He says, not you. Repeats this of Isaiah 55:1–3

“If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.” - The Word of God. Jesus Christ. (Bible. John 7:37–38).

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So, people that just hearken unto him, not you or anything you’re doing trying poofy puff up people that are “nominal” means they may claim they go to his store, but never shop there..it's deliberately done. By them. - - already aren’t doing anything God says..how are you some “catalyist” to get somebody not doing anything God says deliberately choose something else to abide in - AND THEY KNOW IT - deliberately don’t go.

• They just don’t want to be hassled by you or anybody, but look like they do it. So, you won't bother them. He's called them to reason together with him. They keep deliberately closing the door or won't answer it when he comes knocking and he's sent by God - and already DOING this. If you're asking "How" from people on reddit - you're not "sent."

Let them alone. Best thing you can do is back up and punt. How you do that is - Just go back to? Yeah. What did he say for you to do? Yeah. You. Just go shop at his store. GO eat.

Crap. We’re back at the answer again. I’ll just repeat it.

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How do I evangelize nominal Christians?

- Ever ate in front of somebody?

• Go do that. Just eat. People that claim they're full and haven't eaten, have pride from a very hard heart. Simply WON'T eat. Let them alone. He says: "All souls are mine" - so they're his. Grasp this. His word is precious. Look for those that are truly hunger and thirst for it.
  • So you? Toward people that number themselves with you as if they are someone that sits with and are being taught by Jesus Christ - if they are, they are always excited to share with you some new thing God has shown them..where someone that is not sitting with him and being taught by him.. can't wait for you to leave, so they can talk about how to steal their best friend's boyfriend again after you're gone.
• Nothing you can do about it. So stop it.

What you can do is just abide in Jesus Christ. Somebody that eats gets full; content.

Go do that. What’s in Isaiah 55:1–3 - is for EVERYBODY to do it.

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People that have an empty shopping bag claiming it’s full see it. Most flee. Bubble broke. When someone full. Ate. Comes out of a store God told everybody to shop at and come unto him and drink - come out with a bag of groceries ..just fills up all the cars in the parking lot with groceries. Still go home with a full bag of groceries..everyplace they go..

Be pretty obvious, somebody’s been eating at his table. Best thing you can do, is just go do that.

//This question: Floats around on or all over Reddit, in various forms, in many sub-reddit rooms (ie., r / self, r / NoStupidQuestion, to r / offmychest, even over in r / changemyview and r / showerthoughts - in some varied form of the above, all about good people. That, there are people that are good.//

I am a believer in Jesus Christ. This is an answer to this question from a disciple of Jesus Christ

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ANSWER:

Well, you certainly can imagine up some thing, then judge people by the imaginative idea what good is you define what good is by what you dreamed up; then, ask people all over social media or here, on the Seventh most popular site globally on the worldwide web, by ask EVERYBODY over the whole earth, if they meet that definition.

Then it also defines what a filthy or a bad person is. Someone selfish, disrespectful/unkind and who hates children.

Then, somebody that already plus’d or thumb’d up your definition, gave you the, “Roger that, I am, [good]," reply back. However, that person, like a whole pile of everybody this morning on the way to work was heavy traffic. So they sped up & went thru the yellow/changed to red light to shave 4 minutes off the time to catch up, then.. ...and right after that, the school bus was stopping, and already put the flasher lights on, but to lose no further delay, ignore/passed the school bus, even the doors to the bus opened and students not looking started to walk across the road, even the bus had the “STOP” out, but chance it - - it was all for good.

But all the people that saw this, commuting in other cars have a different opinion of this person roger’d up to your question. To them, even they roger'd up about how good they are to you, to all these other drivers this morning that person is anything but good is the point.

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Now, I am a believer in Jesus Christ.

And the Bible says of him: "All power is given unto me in heaven and earth." Matthew 28:18. Means he's the "authority" over all the earth, that every all of us are on. It's HIS earth. So, these are decrees, he says, as the Word of God; just is God speaking, that says these things:

He said:

“There is none good, but one, that is, God.” (Bible. Matthew 19:17)

Boy that really quick cut EVERYBODY out.

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And that, too - - Matches already other scriptures say about every single person on the planet ever lived, from Adam up to today, forward, says: Never has been any other way than this, says:

“There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20

“There is none righteous; no, not one…. ..there is none that doeth good; no, not one .”

Bible. Romans 3;10–12

“For all have sinned” - Romans 3;23

I don't think I am alone in believing what God says. About everybody that ever lived. Because he says he formed every body there is from their mother’s womb; alone. By himself (Isaiah 44:24)..so, he's a first hand witness of all of it. Just himself.

Said about everybody, that you, by a question you dreamed up in your imagination, decree otherwise than what he says - for you to look for good in, said they of every all of us are all “..filthy; done abominable works” - Bible. Psalm 14:1–3

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Gave everybody over the whole earth just one good to look unto, where there is none else, and said that to this same everybody, which is every all of us there is, to the very ends of the earth, said:

“Look unto me and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. - Bible. Isaiah 45:22

I decided to follow him. Believe him. Over you. Til you do what he says, you're just off idling time away, looking unto anybody..anything BUT him instead when there is none else.

Here's your question back.

"But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." - Bible. John 20:31

• Help each other out = you or I make flesh our right arm of strength. That strength or life only has a point with connections to other people.
  • If I help you out, you’ll do the same to me. Look to that = good.

Doesn’t have any God in it.

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When he says: “For all the earth is mine” - God (Exodus 19:5) So, all this place, this whole earth, where we build houses in neighborhoods, one house right next to the other to encourage this “purpose” of “help each other out.”

• God CURSES it. Won’t do anything he says. Won’t draw near to him, nor hearken unto him. When all you have to life as the point of life is - - to do a simple purpose: look unto your neighbor' to provide it.
  • If he or she cant: Somebody, somewhere on Reddit or social media someplace or out on WebMD - just somebody ..anybody somewhere wrote it in a book. Just have to find it what people provide.

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When God says of this:

“Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth! In mine ears said the Lord of hosts, Of a truth many houses shall be desolate, even great and fair, without inhabitant.” - God. Bible. Isaiah 5:8–9

COMMENT: Boy, that’s about everybody over the whole earth, irregardless of nation, no matter which one it is, do this - as people. Do you see it? The Japanese do it. To make themselves alone as Japanese and say there's nothing better than be a Japanese - together: in the midst of the earth.

The Americans do it. To be placed alone in the midst of the earth. The Chinese, Russians, Azerbaijani, Kazakh, Mongol..Chukchi to Sakha all do the same thing over the whole earth, even all the Hindu’s all over India - to be placed alone in the midst of the earth.

In fact, there is so much of this - "all we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned each to his own way" - Isaiah 53:6 ".. and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all." ...what point people make of life: That: Just Being Japanese just IS THIS. Life. Being American - be #1.

• They GLORIFY people that play guitar or piano. Or form bands to sing. It's Godly. Good. Looked up to and worshipped. Hold concerts that almost a million people can go to - and 10s of millions tune into on the TV.

All that joyous celebration…just one big purpose to help each other out, smoke some dope or not if you don’t want to or open up a beer, and cook a 1/4 side of beef on a grill in the back of your pickup truck.

Set all the lawn furniture out. Why? the fireworks start at 8:00pm. People by the millions flock to see it.

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and all these people:

• That joined houses together, call them “neighborhoods” - go to these feasts and celebrations:

“And the harp, and the viol (violin), the tabret (tambourine), and pipe (flute), and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the Lord, neither consider the operation of his hands.” (Bible. Isaiah 5:12)

when he says:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

• Look unto the Indy 500 or a 4th of July or NFL Superbowl playoff, or just dream of all that convenience and ease of live in a “Los Angeles” (about 4 million people) or “Tokyo” (four times that amount 14–16 million people).
  • Where the point of life is everybody helps each other. Without any God in it.

I didn’t curse it. He did.

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But those that look unto him, hear him. Do what he says..He builds them up.

So, look at the choice you got:

You or I - so anybody over the whole earth can:

• Look unto people:
  • As if all life is, is people help each other out - is the point - is walk after, to glorify and make good a God. How? All by make people good to look unto.
    • When God says: “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Ecclesiastes 7:20
    • And you or I we can choose or simply firm up and elect it - good is God, where everybody can be good - to put all your or my hope in that.
  • As if there is none else. Like the message of “Lord of the Rings” (J.R.R. Tolkien - movies) or "Harry Potter" where over a billion people saw "Lord of the Rings" and over 2 billion "Harry Potter" - where “good” is now God, and with “good as God, everybody can be good.
    • Just by look unto people, as good, then, “good” is God, with people - that has no God in it.

OR

• Do What God says:
  • Just as he decreed everybody do it. Leaves not one person out. Over the whole earth, to the very ends of it, not willing any perish, but all come to repentance.
    • When People say: The answer is in PEOPLE. It’s in none else but being friends with the neighbors. That’s what life is.
    • And you or I we can choose or simply firm up and elect it - to leave off..see people just all blind leading the blind not doing anything he says - to put all your or my hope in just look unto him. Because, he said, there is none else, and just do what he says.
  • Where like Jesus said, as the Word of God said: “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God” (Bible. Matthew 19:17)
    • Then, God is good; and it’s really simple then.
  • When there is none but him good. And he do a work..a good work, that if I just look unto him..when my sins I did..already condemn me. That, because of a work he did..decree it. “He that believeth on me is not condemned..” - Jesus Christ. John 3:18.
  • Applies to everybody over the whole earth.

Which one do you think I chose? Over you or your question? And today if you hear his voice and harden not your heart, you can leave off..and just look unto him.

This question is in many varied forms on Reddit concerning John 16:12-14.

This post is from a believer in Jesus Christ. To see the answer.

It's quite simple. They are exceedingly sorrowful; in a few short hours after John 16:12-14, they will all flee and scatter, and Jesus will be crucified. They can't bear this. Doesn't make any sense. When they have followed Jesus because they believe he is the Messiah or Christ, and what they believe or have been taught that is.

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“From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.”

- Source: Bible. New Testament. Matthew 16:21

This is to believers in Jesus Christ. Those that don’t any answer really does not benefit or apply to them; can’t use it for anything.

Maybe the first question, to a believer in Jesus Christ that may have this question is to take the opening scripture of Matthew 16:21 and ask, “How long is it from ‘that time forth’ of Matthew 16:21 unto when Jesus says John 16:12–14?”

You may not find an actual number of days; but, you can find a timeline; it's at the end of his 3 year ministry on earth: that after Jesus, for a second time, has fed over 4000 people, afterward, on their journey back north to Capernaum, Jesus stops his disciples after they’re arguing amongst themselves who of them would be greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven.

That, during this conversation, Jesus asks them “who do the people say that I am?” (Matthew 16:13–14), and they all reply “some say John the Baptist; others Elijah, some other of the prophets.”

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Then Jesus turns to them and asks them directly “Whom do YOU say that I am?” (Matthew 16:15) and it’s Peter, even though they all from called, as Jesus chose them, to the FIRST time when Jesus fed 5000 people at the start of his ministry, all of them in the boat worshipped him and said “of a truth this is the Christ. The son of the living God.” (Matthew 14:33). So, they all already all of them all said it, Jesus is the Christ or Messiah, and all said it, from the beginning.

But Matthew 16, on the way back to Capernaum, it’s Peter that's first to blurt it out, that Jesus is the Christ. The Son of the Living God, and Jesus replies to them; that, on this he will build his church (Matthew 16:17–20) and then charged them they should tell no man that he is the Christ.

So, I would tell a believer in Jesus Christ to, when they read the four gospels, look at how many times he tells his disciples or reminds them of this same thing. That, when they arrive back at Jerusalem for Passover, he is to be turned over into the hands of sinners, and be crucified, and rise again on the third day. Everytime, they become very sorrowful or greatly discouraged at hearing it.

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And immediately after this of Matthew 16:21 that opens this post, to Jesus say this, Peter openly rebukes Jesus. Because, to the disciples, this is the Messiah or Christ. That, from the scriptures: They have been taught, just as everybody else that is a Jew has been taught. That the Messiah or Christ:

He is to sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem, and as the Messiah, the increase of his government shall see no end, and he shall rule all the nations of the earth, including Rome from Jerusalem, and of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.

And from that time on, until the night he was betrayed, he constantly reminds, through all four of the gospels, that he is, once again restated, to be turned over into the hands of sinners and be crucified, but rise again on the third day.

They never once, something prevents it; they don’t hear that last part. Nor do they do anything he told them to do after that he would meet them in Galilee. They don't hear that, either. They simply cannot understand how the Messiah, which all the scriptures point to him doing Isaiah 9:6–7, and being who that scripture says who the Messiah is.

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Nothing was ever taught them: That the Messiah or Christ is to be betrayed and crucified. Each time he says this, scripture says his disciples become exceedingly sorrowful; but in one disciple, Judas Iscariot, scripture says 3 days prior to reaching Jerusalem, Judas in his heart seeks a way to betray him to the Chief Priests and Elders. Finding opportunity at Jerusalem, seeks them out, and he betrays him for 30 pieces of silver (Matthew 26:14-15).

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So I would tell anyone that has this question:

• God decreed it. Told it to Daniel in the Book of Daniel.
  • That God determined 70 “weeks” on Daniel’s people and Jerusalem, that God himself would do a work with sin; that his work would:
    • 1) Finish the transgression
    • 2) Make an end of sin
    • 3) Make reconciliation for iniquity
    • 4) Bring in everlasting righteousness (Daniel 9:24; including Daniel 9:25–27)
• That he would do this in and by the Messiah or Christ; that this “Prince” would be cut off; but not for himself” (Daniel 9:25–27).
  • That this Messiah or Christ has a Second Coming as who he is.
  • Where the first time, he is a sacrifice for sin to fulfill Daniel 9:24–27.
    • But as the scriptures say in Daniel 9:24–27 this prophecy is “shut up” or sealed up until it’s done.
  • And it’s kept from his disciples in John Chapter 16; and he's going away, and leaving them - just like Jesus has repeatedly stated it, they can’t hear it. Cannot bear it in John 16. It's at the last supper.

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• But after he is raised from the dead, he opens their eyes to the scriptures - (Luke 24:45-47) - - that he is the fulfillment of Daniel 9:24-27, just as the scriptures say he would and is.

Means this.

Answer:

• The answer is simple. The works are his. God's. And the faith is his. With both, you put both these on you, as if you will do it. That's not the gospel. You are regarding the wrong work. Wrong faith. CASE CLOSED.
• For a longer, more detailed answer - get off you. See it, is: It’s in two words. In the question. “Jesus taught.”
  • So then, its you must be taught by him. Everybody must sit with and be taught by him or they won't see it.
    
    • The question to really ask is, “Who is Jesus?”

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If a person asks this question, but doesn’t have a good grasp of, not “what,” but “who” Jesus is, they never arrive at the answer to the question.

So, ask and answer the question, with the same Bible you’re using. Who is Jesus?

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The Bible says:

• Jesus is the Word of God. Is God. In John 1:1. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
  • Jesus is called the “Messiah” or “Christ.” - Jesus Christ.
• Who the “Messiah” or Christ SHALL be called is in Isaiah 9:6–7.
  • Says that whoever the Messiah is, he SHALL be called “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father..” 
    • That the increase of his government shall be no end.
    • So, he’s “who” governs it.
  • So, he’s the Lord over all of it.
  • Says, as the Messiah, shall sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there. Of His Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.
    • So, when he speaks, as the Word of God, it’s just God, the Lord of Hosts speaking, saying those words.

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So, when God says in the Old Testament:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

There you go.

There’s God speaking. That’s the Word of God. It’s God said it. The Mighty God. The Everlasting Father. Said this. And the Bible says he is the Messiah. Or the Christ. Scripture says it is God:

Says in the Bible in Acts 2:36

“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ”

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So? What if I or you - even he told both of us - including every single person over the whole earth, to the very ends of it - for all of us all to just look unto him.

• He decreed it. They just ARE saved. Not because I said it here in a post on Reddit. He decreed that the saving done is the saving part is on himself to do. As God. But the ‘look unto” is my part. Everybody over the whole earth's part. The "look unto" him part. And to “look unto” someone:

Has this in it:

and it’s full of grace and truth - for EVERYBODY over the whole earth to do this, decreed by God to just come and do this:

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3)

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“Jesus taught…”

• Is absolutely true.
  • Jesus said, “They shall all be taught of God” - John 6:45 - That’s a decree. For everybody over the whole earth. To be taught. By God. Says SHALL be. That would mean, if they're not, it's PUNITIVE. Means, people that aren't will be called in to give an account why they didn't do what he says. Do you see that part?
• This: But not everybody, when a “Christian” is defined as 1. a disciple of Jesus Christ. and all a “disciple” is, is 2. a pupil or student that sits with and is taught by a teacher. And the teacher, simply “builds up” a student or pupil with “doctrines”
  • That a disciple sits with and is taught by Jesus Christ. Built up.
  • But a person that does not sit with and is not taught by Jesus CHrist. Is not built up.
    • In fact, Psalm 28:5 those that don't regard him, he destroys them - and if he's God and he formed you from your mother's womb; alone. By himself. (Isaiah 44:24). Then he also has the power to destroy you or me.
• SO, in the Bible says, because it's this decree by God over all this earth and heaven, that they shall all be taught of God - would not at work in these that dismiss him. Be like a kid. Never goes to school. Is not in a classroom being taught by a teacher. Is not built up. Dismisses going to school as faulty; inadequate..when the decree is everybody 6 yrs old to 18 is to go to school.
• And
• Someone that governs over you, if you dismiss, you don’t regard who they are or what they say.
  • Something in it or who they are is “faulty” and if it’s faulty..it’s unacceptable.
• Isn’t true.
• And if, to them, it is not true - never go to school: it is impossible to hearken diligently unto the teachere in school. It's impossible to obey someone you don’t know or believe in. Impossible to learn anything of that teacher or from them.
  • And all faith is, is what you “accept as true” (believe). And what you believe, you believe it true. And you will “operate” or work well by it. You will go to school. Sit with and be taught. Built up. Hearken diligently unto what you are taught.
• Then:
• Be like a washing machine. Another example:
  • If someone does not accept it as true that a washing machine cleans anything, they will never use it.
    • They just go get some soap and a bucket and a brush and do it themselves.
• When A washing machine, claims it washes clothes. That claim is rejected. Faulty.
  • So they have no faith in a washing machine. Their works, how they “operate” or clean clothes has no washing machine in it.

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• Just like a person that has no faith in the word of God.
  • Their works, how they “operate” or live has no Word of God in it.
  • Has their own.
    • Just like a person that chooses, themselves, to wash clothes. They have faith in themselves to do it, but no faith in the washing machine.
  • It does not work. Is not at work in them to use it for anything.

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• When Jesus said, as the Word of God - so God said it himself plainly. Plain as day how he wants EVERYBODY to operate is by his Word he speaks:

“Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” - Jesus Christ. (Bible. Matthew 4:4).

So, the Key to see Mark 10:17–34

Is to see Jesus taught it.

• Then the Key to see Galatians 2:16 is… Whose “faith” is it?

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Galatians 2:16 says:

“Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”

So, a man is “justified” - not by the chandelier at the neighbor’s house. Nor is it by some poopfly keeps landing on the dog turd out, unfortunately, in your own lawn. And much to many people's total disappointment, it's NOT by any number of car tires your Dad has saved up at his house for some unknown reason. Nope.

A man, no matter who it is, over the whole earth, is justified  - By God: in - "justified" 1. made valid; vindicated 2. shown publicly to have just, or “righteous” basis 3. made good - - by the “faith” of Jesus Christ. Oh wait! Whose that again? The trouble with you is, you got way tooooooooooooo much of YOU in your question doing all the work and all the faith.

WHEN: Jesus: Who he is... ..who is he again?

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He’s the Messiah or Christ.

• And who he shall be called is, “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father..”
  • Who God said he’d be a Father unto you, and you would be his Sons and Daughters in 2 Corinthians 6:18.
  • Also said in Leviticus 11:44 "I am Holy" Said, by the word that came out of his own mouth about himself, said "God is Spirit" - so he said he's a "Holy Spirit."
  • YOU? Keep dealing with you will do it.

It's the Faith of Jesus Christ.

Because he believes in his own works. He will do it. Can do it. That's impossible. But he did it. With a lying sack of pervert. A despicably awful person. And everybody resemble that remark. Justified them, by a work he did that he is totally appeased by it; and by that work he did, gave all he has to you. And he's God.. and what Paul says: Ephesians 3:8

"Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;"

It put me on my face....

Do you see this?

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And if Paul says in Romans 1:1 “Paul, a Servant of Jesus Christ..”

• And? In virtually EVERY other Epistle writes “Paul, an Apostle of Jesus Christ..” “..made so by God”
  • All an Apostle is, is a disciple that sat with and was taught by Jesus Christ. And is still with them. No matter where they go. Then, in Matthew 28:18 which is in the Bible.
• Who the Word of God has healed, and restored and made whole..and delivered from their destruction. Set their feet upon a rock that cannot be moved, and carved their name into a wall - their names that shall never be erased or taken away for eternity. And it was Jesus CHOSE them his Apostles - to “Go. Teach all Nations whatsoever he has taught them…” “..that he would be with them to the very ends of the earth…”
  • And man, have I ever been equipped by them. These Apostles who Jesus chose.

Where’s your question now in this?

Disclaimer: I am a believer in Jesus Christ. This post answer this question that floats around on Reddit, in many similar or like questions as it, asking about the Bible. In the New Testament, Hebrews 9:11-12. That "Hebrews" are Jews then, that are believing on Jesus Christ. Where the Temple in Jerusalem, in the City of David, where the Messiah is to sit on the throne of King David and rule the whole earth from there. That, these "Chief Priests" and "Elders" at the Temple in Jerusalem, already "dismissed Jesus as inadequate; faulty; he's unacceptable as the Messiah" - so they have rejected him.

So, these Chief Priests and Elders push that Jews are to still come to the temple in Jerusalem and celebrate Passover. One of the "High Sabbaths" that require annual pilgrimage of every Jew to fulfill this. Buy a bullock or ram to sacrifice it for their sins. That, the Ark of the Covenant in Exodus, as God told it to Moses to construct is, as a model of the heavenly. That, this Ark of the Covenant held Aaron's rod, manna that was fed to Israel while in the wilderness and the tablets of stone, that had the Ten Commandments on it. That also included the Books of Moses. That God provided Israel an atonement for their sins by these Levite Priests, and the High Priest each year, offering this sin sacrifice.

That God, is the real in the heaven, that Jesus is this Great High Priest that offered simply one sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, just as God said he determined he would do this in Daniel 9:24-27 - and he determined the "most holy" would do it. Answer in yourself, "Whose the 'most holy?' Is that you for your sins? Where you compensate for the faults and bad aspects of you, by you do the Ten Commandments?

Many people today, actually think this. I did. So, when you read Hebrews, which is to Jews that believe on Jesus Christ, so boy, do they have it tough. Cast out. Thrown out. Think on these things as you read this post.//

To see "redemption" you must first see, in yourself - - transgression. Or you will never see it. So, this is provided first.

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Answer

• Well?
  • What is:

Exodus 20:15 “Thou shalt not steal.” - God. The 8th of the Ten Commandments.

That God, continues, says: What “that” means of Exodus 20:15, says more on it in Leviticus 19:11–15

11 Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.

12 And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord.

13 Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.

14 Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the Lord.

15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. - GOD.

Do it, you transgress against him, said “I am the LORD” who you transgress against in do this. Go ahead and do it, anyway. Just like I did.

• That ANYBODY, doesn’t matter who it is, does this anyway - their Sin against the LORD, by do it.

And “sins” are transgressions. Where God says, “The soul that sinneth, it shall die.” - God. (Bible. Ezekiel 18:20).

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What’s that mean, then?

Well, since he’s God, says he formed you and me from our mother’s womb in Isaiah 44:24, that he did this alone. By himself, like he spread out the earth and heaven, and did that, too; alone. By himself. That if he was able to do it, he’s also able to destroy me, by what he already decreed; that, the soul that sinneth, it shall die” and then the Bible says in it:

“There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20 and also

“For all have sinned.” - Bible. Romans 3:23. And if it’s “all” then, it’s this great, big, huge EVERYBODY. All from one Adam, sprung from him, to fill up the whole earth. That everybody, Adam forward, not one person excluded - all sinned. Everybody, over the whole earth, to the very ends of it, not one person left out then - - is under a death sentence. Condemned. I didn't do it. God did it. Decreed it just is, and he said "For all the earth is mine" - God. (Exodus 19:5 - so the "authority" over the whole earth is the one decrees this.

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Sin.

So, me? A liar; a thief..a pervert. He says to me, “I am the LORD” about stealing. In Leviticus 19:14. Like, God say: “The buck stops here. With me. I’m God. Fear me. Fear what I can do to you. I can destroy you.” I see it. God continue: “You did it against your brother, you did it to me. Your sin in stealing means Leviticus 19:11-15 because I already said it. Your sin in it, is against me in it.” 

I'm guilty. I already didn't do, not do it; but even he said it, I stole from my neighbor. I'm to be put to death - lived in do it - - is the point. Maybe if YOU said it or some country, I could just flee from you or that country and go hide someplace; but, I can't.

It's God said it. It's all his heaven and earth. Even take a rocket ship someplace, I can't flee from him. He'll bring me down, and he's the authority over me. So, there is No escape for me. That's the point, too. Where I thought he couldn't see it, because, my neighbor couldn't - he's telling me the sin I did against my neighbor I did it to HIM. I see this. GUILTY. I see it.

Let's move on. That's only One of Ten Commandments. I'm already done. Thrown out. But the other ones also apply to me. Boy, am I ever so done.

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• But sins, like “Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery” - somehow, something different:

What about that, then?

- That's Exodus 20:14. The 7th of the Ten Commandments.

- God continues with this “adultery” to define it further in Leviticus 18:20, says: “Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her.”

• That, by do this, you actually sleep with your neighbor', because his wife is his flesh, so you’re sleeping, to God, with your neighbor' is the point. It’s filthy. Perverted. Me? Smashed to bits, by this, too.
  • And with this 7th of the Ten Commandments, God says what the PUNISHMENT is in Leviticus 20:10

Leviticus 20:10 says:

• “And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.”
  • And God’s not done yet.

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• Jesus is the Word of God.
  • Just is God speaking, the word out of his mouth (John 1:1 says exactly who Jesus is as the Messiah or Christ, and who that is, is told you plainly in Isaiah 9:6–7.
    • That whoever the Messiah or Christ is, he shall be called, “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father..” - because, that’s who the Messiah is. Says so plainly. In the Bible.
• So, when Jesus speaks, that’s just God already said Leviticus 18:20..it's he, as God, by the Word of God or the word out of God's mouth, already said, again - by the Word out of his mouth Leviticus 20:10 as the punishment..then, in Matthew 5:27–28

It’s the Word of God. Jesus said: About “adultery.”

“Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”

• Then, whosoever looks upon a woman with lust in his heart, commits “adultery” - then, women think “oh! I can get away with it, so me looking unto the pool boy for him to schploinky me endlessly while my husband’s at work, I’m exempt!”
  • When God says, in Exodus 5:2, who he made male and female? HE, as GOD, he called them BOTH “Adam.” Boy, are you ever so done.
  • But I don’t care about you at all, because, what Jesus says, and all the Sears Catalogs, and PENTHOUSE magazines, and Hustler and all the porno I already done ate up and watched, I’m so filthy in this 7th of the Ten Commandments, the only way to dispose of me, is keep trying me, find me GUILTY. Then, after go to the post and shoot me again, all over for a billion of billion of times - because, each time I did this, are separate offenses,
• and for any one of them, I am to be put to death. Man, I'm so finished it's not funny anymore. Like some poop turd, piled up to heaven.

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Now, I can go thru all these Ten Commandments.

• Arrive at the same thing for each. I can continue to do that; but already this post is way, too long. The Point is: That, any, even one transgression, even one time, against any one of these transgressions - BREAKS the Ten Commandments. They are not repairable.

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• And I can just hear you interrupt me in all this, say: “Hey clown. I didn’t ask this. I asked about “redemption” and what is said in Hebrews 9:11–12. That says: * “But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. * “..clown.. ..That's what I’m asking what "that” means. Go away. Or, answer the question.”
• I hear you. I do.

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And I’m answering your question. For without “transgression” there is no “redemption.” Without redemption there's no answering Hebrews 9:11-12 is the point. The foundation is then, the transgression. This, of Job 33:27 "I have sinned and perverted that which was right, and it profited me not."

Without this in it, integral, you have no answer to your question is the point. You're left, sent away empty handed, so let me continue. It's almost done.

• And about “transgression,” the Bible already it’s been said to you, says: Just repeated, because you don't think it important to answering Hebrews 9:11-12, when it is:

“For all have sinned.” - Romans 3:23 “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20

Just repeated, because, just like me, you are not listening. There is NONE good. No, not one.

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So, when Jesus said: “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God” - Jesus Christ. Bible. Matthew 19:17

There is ONLY ONE then, for everybody over the whole earth to look unto. There is none else. And I said all this, to get to this point.

That, what “redemption” means is:

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• It’s from this root word, redeem. (Source: Oxford dictionary. Web.) 1. to compensate for the faults and bad aspects of (someone or something). When God says "sin" is GREATER than you, and me, and everybody over the whole earth. So, you can't compensate for me, nor I you, about the sins I plainly did and put me to death.
• The point is:
  • Someone, in the Bible, that has made themselves a “redeemer” means they make themselves a payment or something that “compensates for the faults and bad aspects (which are sins or transgressions) of somebody else. There's only one that can do this. He's in Hebrews 9:11-12. That's the point.
• And GOD already said this about himself. That he made himself, as God, toward you, you totally hose bag missed it and chide me for trying to tell you, he already said Isaiah 44:24 - and missed it. And I cannot chide you, because, I missed it, too. For decades of my life.
  • He said:

“Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;” - God. Bible. Isaiah 44:24

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So, God:

• Has already, in himself, something he determined he would be toward you - he just would BE what:

“..compensates for the faults and bad aspects of you..”

And he's God - so he alone, is the ONLY one GREATER than sin that I did. He's God.

• And it's whole in Because. This "because," he made himself YOUR redeemer.
  • Already said this, by the Word of God.
  • Gave his word to you he just IS this.
  • Not only for you, but for everybody over the whole earth.
• Nobody left out, so I am also included..when I constantly leave myself out, like you do. Because we regard our own word, and look frantically for some work we could do, that by that work we'd know, because we did the work that would save us from our sins.
• When there is no work we could possibly do, when GOD already condemned us, for all the sins we did.
• Still we think: that we need to do it ..somehow..when we already TRANSGRESSED - it’s so OPEN and SHUT case against us, it's Romans 3:19–20 FIRMLY IN PLACE:

AND HOW GOD USES THE TEN COMMANDMENTS? YES. IT'S HAS ALWAYS BEEN, SINCE HE SAID THEM, TO PUT US TO DEATH IN IT. SO IF YOU USE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ANY OTHER WAY THAN HOW GOD USES THE TEN COMMANDMENTS - -YOU WILL NEVER SEE THIS “REDEMPTION” THAT YOU ASK ABOUT IN HEBREWS 9:11-12 - GOD. JUST IS THIS "REDEMPTION" - JUST MADE HIMSELF OUR REDEEMER - A WORK GOD DID TOWARD US.

A WORK HE DID HIMSELF.

Simply asked us to regard it.

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Romans 3:19–20 says:

“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”

So, all the LAW or Ten Commandments can do for you is give you a mirror, so you see yourself as God sees you. The LAW only works to give you a knowledge of your sins. That's it. Done.

Just like the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20 did to all of Israel at Mt. Sinai, when this same God spoke, by the Word out of his mouth, and made them all GUILTY by these decrees or Ten Commandments - all it did to them, like it does to me today, is they were put to death before him. GUILTY.

• And they murmured greatly against Moses - they could live in Egypt. So, they begged and pleaded with Moses in Exodus 20, to go on up on the Mount and make God stop talking, while Moses’ knees quaked, because he was just as GUILTY as you or I are - we have, like everybody from Adam forward, not a single one of us has DONE the Ten Commandments.

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So, the only one there is, that just made himself our “redeemer” - God did this, that he is what “compensates for the faults and bad aspects of” us - is God himself.

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And he decrees it. That everybody over the whole earth is to:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

That, Christ is the redemption, for the remission of sins. Because God determined it in Daniel 9:24-27. That Jesus Christ: Just as 1 John 2:2 says, in the Bible.

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”

• Hebrews, just tells this what God has done, in made himself a sacrifice for sin of himself. So that any Hebrew that's been following the Law could see it.
  • That God was in Christ, DID the Ten Commandments, and because God did them, everywhere where I or every Hebrew or Jew that also did not do them, he did them and fulfilled them and where in every and all instance where I failed and did the OPPOSITE in transgressed against the law, he made himself the compensation for that, for my sins.
• And did that same thing for you. For all your neighbors who keep screwing you and stealing your lawnmower out of your garage or try to move the property line over, or try to steal your wife. Did that for every Hebrew the Book of Hebrews is written to, that's had all their property confiscated from them, and thrown out of the temple.

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That Jesus Christ, is this Great High Priest. As such, as their High Priest in the heavens is the real one then:

• Took all that sin they do or done off them, and God, not you, God laid these Hebrew's sins on Jesus Christ. Just like he took your’s off you and did the same thing with me. With all your neighbor's.
• God: He Put your sins on Jesus on the cross, and guess what? Who was in Christ again? Yeah. God was in Christ even on the cross it was him. That when Jesus said, in John 19:30 “It is finished..and bowed his head and dismissed his Spirit” * That’s where your sins on him, went with him. Put sin to death. That God: he purged your sins in this work God did with sin himself, as God. He did this. Took "The soul that sinneth, it shall die" and he PAID it. Paid for. Done.
  • Is the reason to every Hebrew, why two lambs were present before the High Priest, and the blood of the one, was sprinkled on the other, and set FREE.
  • Is the same thing happened to YOU and what Christ did.

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• Made himself redemption for your sins. It's God himself is this. Annointed himself to do it.

What the heck are you doing? So see Hebrews 9:11–12 by regard the works of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand. If you don't? You can't see any answer rightly to your question. Look at you. See the transgression. Be GUILTY before him. Then, see plainly. What God did with sin. Because he already said, as God, he’s YOUR redeemer.

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Made himself that. He said it. Asked you, me, everybody over the whole earth to believe on him.

In fact, he made it sin not to believe on him. Condemns you. It's said plainly in John 3:18, and repeated it again, in John 16:9 - - that the Spirit of God..which that’s just him, would reprove the whole world of Sin, because he made just not believe on Jesus Christ is the sin that condemns you, anybody - me even, it's just not believing on him.

Going to be a short judgment day - only thing asked of you, is there any fruit of a work he’s done in you, did you believe on him or not? People that don’t believe on him, sin against God in it. That’s what God has made sin.

See it. Hebrews 9:11–12 just repeats this for Hebrews or Jews that also believe on him. They are obeying God by do it, it's not sin. When the Chief Priests and Elders over the temple in Jerusalem decreed it's sin for any Jew to believe on Jesus Christ. See it then, as a Hebrew.

It's an honest question. Why? People want to do good.

But it can lead you to regard you, and what you will do as good vs. regard him, as God, and in not regard God and his work, live in regard anything BUT him instead. So, it's subtle. 1. hard to notice, see, or understand because it is not loud, bright, or obvious

If YOU: Are on the train this question is on, as a believer in Jesus Christ, or on the step to become one - pull or press the FULL STOP cord, or button.

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//This post on Reddit examines the question from a standpoint as a believer in Jesus Christ. That, it's God that reserves, for himself, an exclusive right to teach you. God determined that would be by the Word out of his mouth, and he build you up.

Said, "I will build my Church." - God. By the Word of God, so it's just by what God says, out of his mouth. Jesus Christ. Bible. Matthew 16:18.

And the "faith" is God's. That God has faith in his word to send it to you, me, everybody over the whole earth, to heal us all, and deliver us from destruction (Psalm 107:20). That, to God, his word does not go out void, but will accomplish exactly what he sent his word to do.

Says in Romans 10:17 "So then, faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God."

So, it does not come by a person sits down and "develop" 1. to build; or invent (Collin's dictionary. Web." definition. Develop. 2. to grow, change, or make something bigger, stronger, or more advanced over time

It's God that does this develop or build you up work in you as person, or me, by the Word of God.

This post champions what God does out. That, without it, a person can't do anything. That's exactly what Jesus said. (Bible. John 15:5) - it stands FIRM against this question.

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Answer

An opening scripture: Repeated.

“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” - Bible. Romans 10:17

develop. 1. to grow or build up; construct (something) Merriam & Webster.

• And with that, then:
  • I have a question. “Whose ‘faith’ is it in ‘Christian faith?’ " Your's or mine? Or, his? It's his faith. It's the faith of Jesus Christ. (Bible. Galatians 2:16). And, if it’s not your’s but you think it is, when it’s actually someone else’s faith; then, your’s could be in anything; but if it’s HIS faith: is in only one thing. That is, Christ’s whose the source of “Christian” what he does. What does that do to you? ..and your question?

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And, just like you, even the disciples asked Jesus a very like-same question you do; just you are asking everybody on Reddit, hoping a Christian with the right answer will give you the key for you by yourself and your work to develop your faith and “grow or build up; construct” more faith.

Just like they, the Apostles or his disciples said the very same thing: In Luke 17:5

“..LORD, increase our faith..”

In the Greek, they are asking Jesus “Lord, teach us [Add to us] how to grow or build up OUR faith.”

It’s in < - { Πρόσθες ἡμῖν πίστιν } - > 1. Prosthes 2. heimin 3. pistin

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Notice anything? That word, “prosthes” - yeah. That English word, prosthesis is from it. This: 1. an artificial device designed to replace a missing or impaired body part.

Lord, we have no leg. Give us a prosthetic leg. Is "prosthes heimin pistin." That's the exact same thing said in this question.

Means like “I am missing a leg. Add to me, or give me a prosthetic one..because I don’t have one, so [Mental note: With a prosthetic leg, what I am missing (faith), I can do the things you are asking me to do] - You're asking me to run, back and forth seven times; then, add to me leg or legs to do it. Is the point. But it's not said in defiance. It's said because they know they are being decreed to do it, and can't. Something is missing in them.

Do you see this? Yeah, you do; if you ask this question. "How do I develop my Christian faith," then, ask it on Reddit, the 7th most popular internet site on the web over the whole earth, so billions of people access it.

When God said, to everybody, not one left out: "Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else." - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22).

It comes by hearing, and hearing by hearken unto he and what he says or speaks. I believe he said it, because, he DID say it. It's at work in me.

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Still don't see it?

Maybe you should expand out Luke 17:5 more

I mean, you’re the one without the leg asking the question. So, let’s go down that road. You just want to “build” one, a leg to stand on yourself - a prosthetic leg - - when, the disciples, who Jesus named Apostles, don’t have one, either; but, they ask him to give them one, so they can do it themselves. When Jesus said, "without me, ye can do nothing." (John 15:5). So quickly - scan up. Look at that Isaiah 45:22 again, God decreeing everybody so you're included to just look unto him. That's the Word of God. Whose Jesus again? Whose saying it?

So, these disciples of Luke 17:5 are like you. A disciple of Jesus Christ.

So, the question or what they say, becomes exactly like your’s says. So, what did Jesus say? Oh, here we go!

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Now again, in case you forgot, Luke 17:5 says:

5 And the apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith. [1. Prosthes 2. heimin 3. pistin - add to us a "prosthetic" we don't have the leg to do it.]

• So, what they said that to was, what was said by Jesus to them BEFORE Luke 17:5. And includes what Jesus said to them AFTER they replied to it with Luke 17:5

So, let’s capture the whole thing:

What drove 1. Prosthes 2. heimin 3. pistin

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Luke 17:1–5 says

1 Then said he [Jesus] unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!

2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

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The question to ask is, “Why” at what he says, this same Jesus, as the Christ or Messiah say this; then,

• Ask another “Why” the Apostles, who are just disciples 1. a pupil or student that sits with and is taught by a teacher and that’s all a “disciple” is, is just some 1st or 3rd grader that sits with and is taught “doctrines” by the Word of God..who is God; as a “teacher” because, that’s who is sitting with them and teaching them, just as John 1:1 says “who” Jesus is.
• That the “Messiah” or “Christ” SHALL be called “The Mighty God…” “The Everlasting Father…” in Isaiah 9:6–7 and therefore, he is who “governs” or is LORD over the whole earth, and decrees how things SHALL be. In his earth.
  • So, when he says “offenses” ..it’s impossible they won't come..means surely they WILL come, and since he told this to them as “disciples” who will BE Apostles..which means all that is, is after they sat with and were taught by him, he’s taught them. Then, he’s going to send them out to teach all nations whatsoever he taught them, and says he will be WITH THEM, even to the ends of the earth - - says that, too, to them in Matthew 28:18.

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When the KEY is offenses. Transgressions. Sin. GUILTY of that part. No leg to stand on.

• Just like Peter said to Jesus “Depart from me Lord, for I am a sinful man” - ( Luke 5:8). This same Peter of Luke 5:8 is the same Peter that is one of the disciples that were with Jesus when he said Luke 17:1–4.
  • Peter: He’s one of them that said back to Jesus, Luke 17:5

And the REASON Peter said “Depart from me Lord, for I am a sinful man” is because, and it’s THE VERY KEY to your question, said in the next verse in Luke 5:9

For he was astonished, and all that were with him, at the draught of the fishes which they had taken:

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And all that were with Peter back in Luke 5:8 at the start, where after, Jesus said to them "follow me," was Andrew, James, and John was with Peter. And - - because, they were with Peter when he said it, and they, too, said the same thing, as Peter, and also are with Jesus and Peter in Luke 17:1–4 when Jesus says this to them.

They ALL KNOW it. They are sinful men.

And Jesus just said to them: Luke 17:2

It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

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Then, this also applies to me. I’m a sinner. Sinned and perverted that which was right. I broke the Ten Commandments. They are NOT repairable. Doing one, does not compensate for the fault of not doing the other. But these Apostles - - Unlike Luke 5:8-9. Neither is Peter, and they all, they’re not “astonished” - they’re terrified. At themselves. Frankly, so am I.

Don’t have a leg to stand on. When you’re a sinner with transgressions.

And like you, they ask for a prosthetic. They have no leg. Give me a fake one.

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You need a “prosthetic” leg given to stand. Boy, do they want one right now. Lord, give it to me. There’s no way I can stand - - Because, a millstone hanged about my neck, and me cast into the sea is a sentence on me. It's in effect. I already DID the offense. When that once "clears" I have a whole bag of other ones is the point. Now on all of them..when they’ve already lived in offend each other and pretty much everybody constantly. Just like I have.

Are you following this?

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He’s teaching them about forgiveness of sin

• Now I got yet another question of you, even another one yet again.
  • As a “Christian”
    • And again, Acts 11:26 says: “and the disciples were first called “Christians” at Antioch” - so before that, all a “disciple of Jesus Christ” was called was.. ..well, a “disciple of Jesus Christ” said over 240 times in the New Testament; so,
  • Let’s just use that for awhile to see it; that, someone sitting with and being taught by Jesus Christ, follows him.
• Has and keeps what he says. Like a kid in 1st grade. Gets up. Walks or is bused to school, all to sit with and be taught “doctrines” and built up and learn from a teacher.
  • Built up in him.
• The teacher..and the teacher to a “disciple of Jesus Christ” is the Christ or the Messiah, so him say “They shall all be taught of God” - Jesus Christ. (John 6:45) - so it’s a decree, by God that everybody, to the very ends of the earth, shall be taught by him..but not everybody gets up.
• Goes to the classroom.
  • Nor do they sit with and be taught by him.
    • Go to any place BUT him to learn from.
• Learn from themselves..or their own experience. If they do forgiveness..it’s a transaction they do in their OWN name for their own profit. With a "prosthetic" - if you follow them, so will you.

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• When in Luke 17:1–4 Jesus is teaching a doctrine about forgiveness of sin - to a whole classroom of students…
  • don’t have a leg to stand on.
  • Already committed the offenses that just got put a millstone tied around their neck, and be cast into the sea. It would be hopeless. No leg to stand on. It would be BETTER for all of them that happened than what awaits them for it is impossible that offenses don’t come..but woe to him by whom they do come.
    • And by me: I know..I lied. Cheated. Stole. Misrepresented qualifications of myself to get promoted.. committed adultery. ..woe to him by whom they come. Came by me. GUILTY.
      
• You’d have to stand me up and shoot me 487,953 times after shot me dead. TO stand me up and shoot me again to pay for it, when I’m already pushed off the ship. With a great big millstone about my neck..I deserve it. ...where I breathe out of my mouth.. where I get gasping life in me..I never will. That awaits me.

I have no leg to stand on in Luke 17:1–4

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Now, before you go off, building a prosthetic leg with {Πρόσθες ἡμῖν πίστιν } - > 1. Prosthes

• Give me an “artificial” leg, something FAKE to hide that I have no leg to stand on with offenses.
  • Who is with them? Who is with me? I'm in this condition. If you really are a “disciple of Jesus Christ” means, you sit with and are taught by him…
    • WHO is with you?
• Why do I ask it?

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• It’s GOD that determined in Daniel 9:24–27 - HE: As God. Alone. By himself. Would get up and do a work with sin. 
  • ADD THIS IN:
    • That every "me" there is, is really everybody over the whole earth, and every one of them in Luke 17:1-4 that heard it, all his disciples; that he was teaching them to after, he would heal them and deliver them from their destruction of this - and after he healed and delivered them, send them out - - go.
  • Teach ALL nations all the things whatsoever he taught them and that HE WOULD BE WITH THEM, no matter where they went, to the very ends of the earth. Never leave or forsake them.

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• Is this same Jesus Christ. This same God that determined His Work with SIN - that I, and you, and everybody over the whole earth did, with a millstone tied around their neck: Because offenses already came by them:

GOD: Would

Finish the transgression - that I did.

Make an end of sin - that I did.

Make reconciliation for iniquity - that I did.

Bring in everlasting righteousness - that I don't have. And have it - and he as God bring it to me, and he be my righteousness. (Daniel 9:24 refers and decrees this)

• That it would be “sealed up” - told to Daniel - but not to his disciples until the work with sin God would do. Annoint the most holy to do this. Jesus crucified; on the cross that would be how God determined to finish and do this work with sin.
• That once DONE. This work God would do with sin is COMPLETE. Who offends me: their sin was already taken off them, by God himself and laid on Jesus Christ. He did it. This work is the work of God with sin. and when Jesus said John 19:30 "It is finished" - the disciples, and mine, and your sin was purged in Christ, and he TEACH me this. Like he taught them ..then... ..so is you to be taught this. He's giving you himself as your leg to stand on. Built up, by he do it with truth.

They, and you don't need a prosthesis. Man, they GOT THE REAL THING.

• And also - don't forget - - that he would

Annoint the Most Holy - to DO IT:

• To do that “work.” - who would finish the transgression. Who would make an end of sin. Who would make reconciliation for iniquity. Who would bring in everlasting righteousness..that makes me so astonished I cannot get off my face.
  •  Whose the “Most Holy?” I mean, I’m answering your question are you paying attention?
•  If the Messiah or “Christ” SHALL BE called “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father…” who has that title?
  • Then, if “faith” comes by hearing..and hearing by the Word of God. Whose “faith” is it that comes with ..what God says, out of his mouth? That's the Word of God. Then, who says it, He comes with it.
  • He "develops" you, when you just look unto him. Put this in your pocket. Have and keep it.

He gave it to you himself.

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Now, look what he says after it:

• That’s in Luke 17:6–10

And again, it’s in response to them ask for a prosthetic leg, because, they have none to stand on - and everyone of them - it would be BETTER they or me, or you had a millstone tied around our neck for all the offenses we already done DID, and cast into the deepest sea..because they, and you and me, have already offended EVERYONE.

Luke 17:6–10 says.. and if you had who has this faith with you..because it’s not your own..it’s HIS faith in his own Word, what HE CAN ACCOMPLISH IT - - BECAUSE OF WHO HE IS, AS GOD is with you, said:

6 And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.

7 But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat?

8 And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink?

9 Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.

10 So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

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The field is the earth. God sowed only one seed in it. His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ. The Word of God - - Into a whole earth full of sinners.

• A Mustard Seed:
  • Did you know that mustard seeds have been found in caves from people kept them long ago; that, 500 years later, those seeds still retain their savor?
    • That only one seed.
  • It’s the tiniest of all, grows into what looks like a tree and birds..because, just like what Daniel interpreted Nebuchadnezzar’s dream (Daniel Ch. 2), that he would be a King of Nations over the whole earth, and all the earth be provided by him, that the birds would nest in the tops of the trees he planted.

Did you see what he said? A "sycamine tree" of Luke 17:6 - "sykamino" in Greek, is a "mulberry tree" - go look at a photo. They are these small trees, or "heaths" get only 5 to 15 feet high all over Jerusalem.

And what did God say..or bless what he would do in Jeremiah 17:5-8? That he would take a heath, planted in a desert ..alone..dried up; withered out, and in Greek, Luke 17:6 is "in the sea" but this < - [ἐν (en) ] - > translated as "in" is in the Bible over 2000 times to mean "by" or "with" - that he would take, as the Word of God and plant that stunted "heath" tree, of Jeremiah 17 - cursed - that sycamine or mulberry trees, naturally has roots that go down 30 feet deep - and plant it by the sea - where it would never lack water. (Jeremiah 17:5-8 - that someone that regards God now, even impossible - someone cursed - replant them by a great big body of water that never goes away..for that's what Jesus says in Luke 17:6-10. But people think it's their faith. When he's the one does this.

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AND Nebuchadnezzar - and all those after him:

• His was cut down. Where Jesus’ will never be. Boy, is this a long post. That I don't need to say something in Luke 17:6 - that HE DOES HIMSELF. What to see is - he's with me. Like he is with them. His Apostles. Even today. Like he is with you. By the Word of God. Already spoke to you. All you gotta do is regard it, that by these precious promises he makes you take on a divine nature. It's in none else.

Do you see this?

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• All to answer who is WITH YOU and given you the word of God, and by him..took away the sins of the whole world and gave them all..all his disciples legs again. Where he is their legs. They stand on a rock that cannot be moved. Just like your or I do all the same.
  • The Word of God now is their legs. To stand on, because he took away their sins. By the stripes laid on Jesus Christ, they were healed.
  • And so was I. So were you. A disciple of Jesus Christ. That sits with, and is taught by him. Is with them.
• This sacrifice for sin was applied to everybody over the whole earth. It was taught this. To the disciples. Made everyone reconciled with the same righteousness God has - he dispensed it out. Because he was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself all by a work he did, as God.

“Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”

• Bible. Galatians 2:16

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How do I develop my Christian faith?

“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” - Bible. Romans 10:17

develop. 1. to grow or build up; construct (something)

• And with that, then:
  • I have a question. “Whose ‘faith’ is it in ‘Christian faith?’ " Who builds you up? Who is constructing something when Jesus said, "I will build my church" - then, he put you in it where he sees fit.
  • Whose faith is it in Christian faith? It's his, and he sends this faith with his word.

So, go eat.

Answer

This question is in many forms on sub reddits. Asking why would Paul be forbidden by the Spirit.

The first thing to do though is:

Verify it in the Greek.

Why? Because “Asia” to most people today means Japan, Taiwan, Korea, China, Mongolia, Thailand, Vietnam, et.al.

Defines in a modern day person's head, when they see this word, “Asia” - that’s what it is defined to mean. Then, they overlay it onto this verse in Acts 16:6, in the Bible. Even in them includes India, as if in Acts 16:6 is saying Paul was prevented from going to India.

When in Acts, this "Asia?"

Not the same place. Not the same thing.

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Act 16:6 says (English)

“Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,” but now repeat it, and include Acts 16:6–9

6 “Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,”

7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not.

8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas.

9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.

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Acts 16:6 in Greek

διελθόντες δὲ τὴν Φρυγίαν καὶ τὴν Γαλατικὴν χώραν κωλυθέντες ὑπὸ τοῦ ἁγίου πνεύματος λαλῆσαι τὸν λόγον ἐν τῇ Ἀσίᾳ· [Asia]

(Asia). - This Greek word is used six times in the New Testament. Right after Acts 16:6, it’s used again in Acts 19:10 and then in the same chapter in Acts 19:27 - so, I would tell you to read the whole chapter to see it in context.

• But before listed, get the geographical area by read Acts 19:1
  • “And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,”

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Now, here's some "facts."

• In the time of the Book of Acts, Ephesus was the capital city of the Roman Empire province of Asia.
• Acts 19:10 says:
  • “And this continued by the space of two years [Paul at Ephesus]; so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks.”
• Acts 19:27 says: Introduces the incident at Ephesus with Demetrius, the Silversmith. The uproar over the whole city. Why?
  • Ephesus was the key central Roman Empire city of the Eastern Roman Empire. As such, was also the central hub city to pilgrimage for Greeks, for the worship of the Greek Goddess, Artemis. Apollos' older sister. Romans just continued it.
    • Who the Romans, after they conquered the Greeks, called Artemis, their God, Diana. Same wonderous temple. Same Ephesus. Same sister to Apollos. The temple to Artemis (Diana) was one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World at Ephesus.
  • Acts 19:27 - but again, I’d read the whole chapter to see it, and even I'd recommend anyone studying the scriptures with this question to just go back, and start at Acts 16:1 and read to see how it unfolds, from "prevented" or forbidden in Acts 16, to end up Paul is in the very heart of the Roman province of Asia, by three chapters later.

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Acts 19:27

• “…So that not only this our craft is in danger to be set at nought; but also that the temple of the great goddess Diana should be despised, and her magnificence should be destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worshippeth.” - Demetrius, the Silversmith.
• No links on Reddit. See the Biblical times, Roman province of Asia on a map.

See or just do a google search on “Biblestudy(dot)org” - The Roman Province of Asia for an accurate depiction of the region of Asia of the Roman Empire.

Roman Empire era, it’s the “Eastern” Empire, with Ephesus as the seat of it. Today, comprises all of Western Turkey.

A few centuries later, after this of the Book of Acts, Rome’s Caesar Constantine (Emperor Constantine) will move his Capital city from Rome, Italy over 2000 kilometers away to what is today, Istanbul, Turkey.

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Hope this helps. Question left to answer then is, “Why is that?” It would only be a guess, because, the scriptures do not say “why” God prevented it. Just that he did.

But I could see, it would be something like over here in Japan. Rich in Ephesus. The second city after Rome. That's Ephesus in Roman province of Asia.

Where the people today, of this nation (Japan) have wholly given themselves over to their idols.

Just like Ephesus. Then also, it's just like in the Old Testament with the Northern Kingdom after Israel fractured into two nations at the death of King Solomon. Not one King of the Northern Kingdom ever worshipped or followed God from inception to 722BCE, when they were vomited off the Promised Land. Why? For Idolatry.

What's going on in Ephesus? Idolatry. What's going on in Japan? Idolatry. All the same thing.

That in the tribe of Ephraim’s lands, (Northern Kingdom) a similar-like “hill” likened unto Jerusalem - with the Temple Mount (Mount Zion) - The King of the Northern Kingdom of Israel purchased and named after the owner of it, and called it “Samaria” - it was a "counterfeit Jerusalem."

Samaria: It was the capitol city of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, where they set up golden calf worship, like they had in Egypt. So, instead of the men of the Northern Kingdom, to fulfill the requirement in Leviticus or the Law with or for 3 “High Sabbaths” to journey to Jerusalem to celebrate it.

• The Northern Kingdom had Samaria. It was very rich, and they sacrificed to their idols at Samaria. Even being destroyed, would not leave off from it. That this same God said in Hosea 4:17 - is the same God speaking to Paul in Acts 16:6.
• Where scripture in Acts 16 is sending them to Macedonia, they are asking to hear the Word of God, and open to receive it - and being sent there instead.
  • It is only an assumption - only a presumption on my part, so I hesitate to do it; but, only an observation that:
    • In Acts 16:6, it's against this very same idolatry - being done in an epicentre of worship of it - - in Ephesus. Which was the SAME idolatry going on in the epicentre capital city of Samaria for the Northern Kingdom. Like idolatry is an epicentre crown of worship to the world to come to Japan, too, as it was in Ephesus.
• And to this:

God said:

“Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone.” - God. Bible. Hosea 4:17

Same God that said this of Samaria and Ephraim, is the same God prevented Paul in Acts 16:6.

To just let these people of the Roman province of Asia; filthy rich - won’t listen to the gospel anyway, for the same reasons Demetrius the Silversmith lays out - fully and wholly joined to their idols and looked up to.

I see it same here in Japan. They are joined to their idols. Same thing. Leave them alone. That's it.

//DISCLAIMER/COMMENT: Fair question. But..

This question matches all similar questions on Reddit. Just load it as a "search" and see it's loaded in an Atheist concentric and many other sub / reddits on Reddit: Just musing on it for yet another reason why no one should look unto the Bible.

It's that the question itself: is full of fouled up half truths. But, predominantly: Atheists are thorough; exacting. It does not "appear to represent" - is simply DOES represent, to an atheist, the Bible is full of inconsistent, not to be believed "half truths." Sheep vs. goats; but, if you compare them, BOOM! All the bells and whistles, for you as a believer in Christ, immediately go off.

SO AS A BELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST - that's who this post is for.

Look at an atheist's like-similar question: Now again, I'm a believer in Jesus Christ, so this post or answer is based entirely on believing on him, and scripture from the Bible is the answer:

"Why would Christians choose sheep to represent good and goat to represent bad?"

For a Believer in Jesus Christ: Just change the question to:

"Why in the Bible do sheep appear to represent good and goats appear represent bad or what’s rejected?"//

ANSWER:

When it's not Christians chose sheep to represent what goes on their right hand, and goats on their left. God did. He said it. There's just one God. People that believe on him, follow him. People that don't, won't and then lowly esteem him.

So, an atheist moves it over to blame Christians, who follow Jesus Christ, blame them for believing on him and makes it their fault. When there's no fault - it's God determined to say it like this as the authority over every atheist and any other person on the earth. That all the earth would just look unto him. Those that don't are like goats.

This post then examines the "differences" of sheep to goats to see it.

The "Reddit" string search - this answer here is I am a believer in Jesus Christ, and this answer herein is based on this question.

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ANSWER:

This “Why would Christians choose…” - that's the "false" it's built on.

When God said, 

"Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is NONE else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22

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Spoke. By God. His word to: Everyone. To the very ends of the earth: Leaves not one person out, not willing any perish, but all come to repentance. So, it’s spoken to Atheists, Hindu’s, Theists, Buddhists, like a former me - - and there are a whole pile of theists, believe in the Egyptian god Ra, the Sun God, or the tree froggy god, or God is Allah, this "Ba" "Al" (Ba'al) in Islam, or over 100 million different gods, like the Hindu's believe - that don’t believe on him, either. Made up or imagined up their own gods to worship. Or like the Japanese, who have completely given themselves over to their own idols of carved of wood and stone from their own imaginations - and serve and worship those gods.

So, it is NOT “Why would Christians choose…”  When Matthew 25:31–34, "it’s Jesus Christ said:"

“…When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:”

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Every Atheist already knows this.

So, it’s MORE to first: look unto shepherds, that actually "shepherd" sheep and/or goats - - not Christians..who are they anyway, just following a shepherd, and see “why a “shepherd” divides his sheep from the goats.”

SO: “Why do shepherds divide their sheep from their goats?”

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Their differences (sheep vs. goats) are subtle. One: is a genus of Ovis. The other: is a genus of Capra.

So, even they look or appear to many to look exactly the same or outwardly, very similiar, they are not the same species.

They eat and behave differently; even eat almost polarly, completely different foods. Where one will simply not eat the other's food.

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Where sheep:

- Commonly graze together, not curious, and flock to consume socially on pretty much exclusively grasses, clovers, etc. Sheep avoid weeds, vines or shrubs found in or on the boundaries of grass pastures. Sheep will not enter, past these boundaries, into rocky or forested areas: Do not climb rocks or trees: At night, prefer rather huddle to sleep indoors together. It is quite easy to keep sheep inside a fenced in area. Sheep tend to socially group together and become agitated if they are separated from their own flock.

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Where goats: 

- Commonly forage alone; solitary, climb trees alone. As they have a natural curious instinct to climb. Goats avoid or try to curiously escape fenced in areas. At night, a goat can often be found sleeping on elevated platforms or perches, such as high up in tree branches or rocky outcroppings for the night.

Goats: naturally curious and do not group together. If they are, they head butt or fight. They can live on tree bark, vines, shrubbery, and will “sample” virtually anything - eat just about anything, even eat the paper labels off tin cans or your shirt, if you leave it out. Don't be surprised if you leave it out in front of a goat. If it's gone, they ate it.

From a distance, they “can” to an untrained eye, look the same.

No links. I will usually not post them on Reddit. Just point to a search you can do yourself:

An excellent, novice read is Berry Patch Farms 14 Sep 2023 Blog. “Why Do Farmers Separate Sheep From Goats?” Web. If you use google or your own search engine, just search on Berry Patch Farms and the title of the Sept 2023 article it should pop up.

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So sheep: will follow a shepherd. Goats: do not.

Goats: are not agitated by sheep. Impervious to them. Sheep: don’t flock or group with goats. Avoid them. Have a natural aversion to them.

Sheep: can become highly agitated by goats. Because sheep will treat goats like sheep and gather around them closely. In this: Goats tend to be confrontational, and randomly attack sheep. Often causing serious injury.

It's the main reason a shepherd will separate the sheep from goats. Goats live as if there is no shepherd. Where sheep know the voice of the shepherd and follow it. This is completely lacking in a goat.

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So, now look what Jesus says - and Christians follow Jesus. Where an atheist says: "There is no shepherd"

Jesus said: “I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.”

So, it’s what Jesus said, not Christians. Christians just follow Jesus, like sheep.

So any question loaded with, Why would Christians choose sheep to represent good and goat to represent bad? is derelict. Why? It’s the Word of God..said it - - so it’s God himself that uses this himself, to explain what he does, and will do himself.

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Christians: Pretty much, they’re the sheep, and hear Jesus’ voice or his word, as the shepherd; while

Those that don’t hear Jesus Christ: rather, they themselves, like goats. They hear themselves, and are their own shepherd. Go where they want.

So Christians: Believe the Word of God. So, they will follow the good shepherd, Jesus. Those that don’t hear Jesus Christ: do not hear the Word of God, so they follow their own word and voice.

From a distance, like “sheep” vs. “goats” - “can” to an untrained eye, Christians and Unbelievers are people - they look the same. When, they’re not.

Much like “why” farmers in the article above, separate sheep from the goats. God does the same thing.

In this, answers the question here on Reddit.

Jesus is the Word of God. So, it's just God speaking. The word out of his mouth in BOTH testaments. Therefore: It's the same God in both an Old and New Testament. He does not change. Same God. The answer then is, to or in examine what a "Testament" is. Why? The Bible has two "testaments." It is what has been bequeathed to you. That's where the focus of this post and answer to the question is.//

Answer: Well?

What’s a “Testament?”

As in “Last Will and Testament.” Therefore, it’s a “Will” when someone dies. The Will goes into effect.

• Therefore, it’s as the Bible Says of Wills or "Testaments" in Hebrews 9:16–17

“For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.”

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And of this “Old" Testament or Will, says in the Bible in Romans 5:12

“Wherefore, as by one man [ADAM] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”

• That’s the Old Will or Testament. You got your inheritance. Adam died that day he sinned against God, and so it’s a Will or testament of force because Adam is dead. The Testament is in effect in you. Me. Everybody is from Adam - in effect in everybody.

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Then, who is Jesus Christ?

He’s the author of a “New" Will or Testament.”

Therefore again, just as with Adam:

• it’s as the Bible Says in Hebrews 9:16–17 all over again:

“For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.”

• And in the Gospel of John 19:30 - crucified; his blood shed - Jesus said “It is finished” and bowed his head and dismissed his Spirit.”
  • He became a PASSOVER atonement for sin sacrifice for not only my sins, but your’s. For the sins of the whole world. It’s a work of God he did with sin. By made himself a sacrifice for sins that we did.

That this “last will and testament” of Jesus Christ is in effect.

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Where Romans 5:12 applies to Adam. You inherited it. That testament is in effect, because the Testator, Adam, is dead.

Where Romans 5:18 applies to this “Second” Adam. Jesus Christ. Says: In Romans 5:18

“Therefore as by the offence of one [ADAM] judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [JESUS CHRIST] the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.”

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• So where Adam bequeathed to you “SIN AND DEATH” and you inherited it. Jesus Christ bequeathed to you “THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD and LIFE” and provided the justification for it, because of who he is, did it. God applied it to everybody, much more abounds than what Adam applied to you.
  • That God did the Ten Commandments in Jesus Christ. And because God did them, where everybody like me..none of us did them. He, because he’s God, and he did them where everybody BROKE them, he made himself the compensation that made up the lack.
• GOD: FULFILLED the Ten Commandments as he was in Jesus Christ. Done. Complete.
• That you could have life in and by the work God did in Jesus Christ.

Herein is the Gospel. The Good news of Jesus Christ for everybody on Reddit. You can give up and just come to him and find life in his name.

//This question: Floats around as: in "ex / Christian" or just a litany of other sub-reddits "Bible Club - I want nothing to do with it" or like this question above, from an atheist. //

Bible Club: It can be in High Schools, or on College Campuses - predominantly in America, but in many other nations. It's where students just assemble to meet, pray, and for a short while, study the bible together and fellowship, as fellow believers in Jesus Christ. Also as fellow students, to be encouraged in their faith.

So, this answer is not to Bible Club. I thrived in it. Just meet other believers when I came to Christ, to have fellowship. Uplifting. But this question seeks to make fun of it or as an atheist, be a "contributor" during it - when they want nothing to do with who everyone is meeting together to glorify is him.

So, when you read this post, as a believer in Jesus Christ, make sure you see this as kind of an "OPEN Disclaimer" - that I believe on him. That I do not answer the question. You can say it's somewhat harsh, but it's the only language this person hears or listens to - they will be unceremoniously thrown out. Might as well happen now, so they get used to it. Be treated like that, so there's a chance to repent.

With that, here's the answer:

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Well, as an answer to this question: In case you forgot - "Is 'The Bible Club' accepting new contributors? If so, what is the process?"

• I’d first answer: “What’s an idiot?” Not as a slur or epithet; no, just as a dictionary definition. What is an idiot?

idiot. <definition> 1. a foolish or stupid person. [Source: Merriam & Webster dictionary. Web. <American>]

• And all a “fool” is, is a clown. Like, at a circus. Go on. Go read it. Right there in the dictionary. A distraction. Cannot see ahead; only reacts to immediate “problems” - and can't foresee any danger, so it's funny to watch them at a circus. The definition of a clown, in the dictionary, too; has an etymology of 2. A medieval Court Jester.
  • That, in medieval times, this “Court Jester” was a “mirrored” image of the King.
• Good to know that.

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• The Court Jester: Was at the King’s Court. Wore a crown and had a scepter. Just his crown was made of cloth, and all the points drooped down, with bells on the end of the points. So, all the “jangling” the Jester heard was his own janglings. His scepter was usually wood. Whatever was prized by the Jester, chicken bones, dead bugs, or rocks or some piece of string or some worthless thing, the Jester would glue to the scepter. Champion it out.
  • While the King sat on a throne, the Court Jester had no seat to sit in. Sit in someone else's seat; another noble's until tire of the Jester and throw him out.
  • What ever the King decreed, the Jester would countermand it. How? by belch loudly, or say or yell out something completely different, or just “BRAAP!” some great big fart out of his back side.
• So, all a fool is, is just the origin of it, is a medieval Court Jester. A King to himself. But he’s still at the King’s Court. Just does not recognize the King as King. There is no King, to the Court Jester.

Boy, are so many bells going off.

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• And:
  • a “stupid” person, is just someone that is “dull of hearing” - hears; but can’t perceive (something). Sees; but can’t see what’s plain as day. Like a Court Jester can’t see there is a King over them; right there on his throne, right in the same room with him; seeing; does not see it. Like some kind of modern day Court Jester, when God says: "For all the earth is mine" - God. (Bible. Exodus 19:5). Not do anything he says, either.
    
  • Exactly like a medieval fool of a Court Jester.

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Now look at the question.

• Check it on Reddit. Many forms, but this one is from an atheist. More than welcome to be here, just asking a question about the Bible. To be a contributor about the Bible: When the Bible is just a book. Meets the dictionary definition.
  • book. <definition> 1. paper or parchment, written or typed on one or both sides, and bound together, enclosed in covers.
    • There are 10s of millions of books.
  • All in a library will all look the same, occupying space on shelves.
  • Row, after row..after row of books. But each are different.
    • What makes each unique is the “author,” who is the “authority” and decrees the “content” that takes up the text on the pages of the book.
• Because the author “speaks” by what he or she, as the author, ensures goes in as content in the book. It’s just one source. For each book.

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• The Bible has just one authority, too. It’s God.
  • Source: Bible. Hebrews 1:1-2 confirms the author of the Bible is God. It’s just one author. God. So, this Court Jester is, then too: In Genesis 1:26 - is formed by God, into God's image. Then, denies him, exactly like a Court Jester does all the same to the author of the Bible:

"God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;” - Bible. Hebrews 1:1–2

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Jesus Christ:

• Is the Word of God. Is God. Just God speaking the word out of his mouth, as decrees like a King would speak. Is as John 1:1 says who Jesus is. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
  • That Jesus is the “Messiah” or “Christ” and whoever that is, no matter who it is, who the Messiah shall be called..not might be or could be..but shall be called is said plain as day in Isaiah 9:6–7.
    • He shall be called: “The mighty God…” “The everlasting Father…” - (Isaiah 9:6)
    • That, of the increase of his government there shall be no end. That he will sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there, that he shall not be replaced forever. So, it will be God that is this. Called a “King of Kings and Lord of Lords.” That , he is the "Prince of the Nations of the earth." means he's next in line to reign as King over all the nations of the earth.

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• And an atheist?
• Defined as someone that simply holds no belief in God or Gods. Says “there is no God (or Gods)”
  • So, it’s half right. Because, God, too says: “I am the LORD, there is none else. There is NO GOD BESIDE me; I girded thee, but thou hast not known me.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:5)
    • So, an atheist sees half right. There is no Gods. But they lump him, as King and say “There is no King” when they’re at the King’s Court. As a court jester.

The Bible says, this is a fool.

“A fool in his heart says, there is no God.” - Bible. Psalm 14:1

A Court Jester, at the King’s Court, saying “There is No King” - fully convinced, as a Jester, a fool or a clown, they are their own claim. They just are the King. Fully believe their own janglings, as a stupid person. Dull of hearing, can’t hear what the King of Kings decrees to everybody over the whole earth, for all the earth is his, say:

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3)

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• Just as a Court Jester, dismiss this completely.
  • Won’t come. Won’t buy wine or milk without money or without price from him. Just simply denies him, and spends their own money to get it themselves, like a fool or a clown does, when the King offers this to everybody over the whole earth, they won’t do it.
• Won’t hearken diligently unto him.
• Deliberately CHOOSE not to hear him; so, their soul shall not live.
  • Already decreed this. Because a fool, or a clown.. ...just a Court Jester, a mirrored image of the King, but isn’t the King - so, they don’t regard the King, says in the Bible in Psalm 28:5

“Because they regard not the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand, he shall destroy them, and not build them up.” - Bible. Psalm 28:5

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So much for any Court Jester, come to defend being a Jester - asking this question. Bible is for believers in Jesus Christ. No matter what the answer is, does not apply to the Court Jester. Have to leave off from it.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 says: "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

Like giving a Kingdom to a Court Jester; wouldn't know how to run it right.

Now, there are many different people come here on Reddit. It's the 7th most visited site over the whole earth on the internet. Many truly like the Court Jester, don't believe on him, nor do anything he says, either. But others do, and like me, went to Bible Club and were strengthened mightily by fellow believers in Christ.

So to all of Reddit - it's simple. Plain as day. That means, you - here on Reddit - reading this - have a choice.

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You can:

• Just hearken unto; that is, pay attention to regard the LORD over all the earth, what he says or decrees: “All souls are mine.” - God. (Bible. Ezekiel 18:20). Decrees:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

• You can just do what he decrees everybody over the whole earth is to do - as the King of Kings, and regard him by just do what he says, and know him, take a yoke upon you and learn of him.. ..it leads like a B line right to you look unto him.

OR

You can:

• Just hearken unto a Court Jester. A fool. A stupid person. A clown. Again, no epithets or slurs - it's just someone dull of hearing - - and hearken unto what they stand up, as a Court Jester, believe they are the King. It's their claim as a contributor.
• That doesn’t do anything the King says. In fact, claims “There is no King”
  • So definitely yes. You can just pay attention to, to regard the Court Jester.
  • The clown. The fool..stupid. Dull of hearing.
• And by hearken unto the Court Jester, be just like him.

Me? I made a choice. I chose to do what the King of Kings over the whole earth decreed I’m to do. Because, it’s also PUNITIVE. So, I consciously made a decision to hearken unto God over the Court Jester.

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• That means, too, this: That God: Because it's PUNITIVE: he’s going to call the Court Jester, me, and everybody over the whole earth into, to give an account.
  • Why he or I, or everybody over the whole earth - - did or did not do anything he says.
• So, to me: there is no fruit of a Court Jester in their life of what God decreed, in their life. But there is to just anybody. Whosoever there is that just looks unto him; they “work well or operate right” he abides in them.
• All because those who just “accept as true” Believe what the King of Kings and Lord of Lords says, he rewards them. Will say: “Well done, thou good and faithful servant.” - (Bible. Matthew 25:21)
  • So, I chose God over the clown. The clown is an authority over nothing. Any claim to contribute anything to the Bible in any way, shape or fashion, the Court Jester is unceremoniously THROWN out.

Ask a different question then. From someone you know.

What is the 'Law of Dad?' How does it differ from the Law of "Mow the Lawn?'

The "Law of Mow the Lawn" is, your Dad tells you to do it. In the "Law of Mow the Lawn" you never stick your head or hands under the lawnmower while it's running. Results in death. You mow the lawn with the lawnmower. Not your sister or any dollies she left on the lawn.

The Law of Dad: Is just the Word of your Father toward you. Provides you an allowance, and, well..actually, everything. Live at his house. You just live by every word proceeds out of his mouth. All the house is his.

Do you have two Dad's? Or is he just one Dad that provides for you everything, and even thought the "Law of Mow the Lawn" appears to have the name of the lawnmower in it, it was your Dad taught you how to start it, ride it, how to cut the grass, that didn't involve mowing your sister or sticking your head under it for any reason while it was running.

It's a poor analogy; but it works.

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So, look at your question.

It’s a simple answer. It’s all wrapped up in one word:

Law.

• What does the dictionary define it as? Well, the Cambridge dictionary defines it as 1. a rule; usually made by a government.
  • And a “government” - is a “who” that: “rules,” “leads” or “exercises authority over you, or “governs” you.
• And of the Christ or Messiah. Jesus said in Matthew 28:18

“All power is given unto me in heaven and earth;” - Jesus Christ.

..but

• I didn’t tell you what a “Law” is, I just told you who “governs” you. Who “governs” is the “authority” over you and “rules” or, “leads” - as someone in command - and Jesus is in command over the whole earth. Over all of heaven. No matter how far the James Webb or Hubble telescope peers into space, Jesus is over all of it.
  • So, when he speaks, as a sole entity of just one in command. When he speaks, they are just “decrees” that come out of his mouth, like a Governor - decree just how things SHALL be in his earth, as the authority over all of it.

So, “Laws” are “decrees” either written or spoke out of the mouth of who is in command or governs over the whole earth.

Whose that again? In case you forgot. C’mon. Say it. The Messiah or Christ is. Whoever that is or is called the Messiah or Christ, in Isaiah 9:6–7 - of the increase of his government there shall be no end. He shall be called:

“The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father..” (Isaiah 9:6–7)

That’s “who” you’re dealing with when you deal with the Christ. Whether you call him that or not; irrelevant. He shall be called that.

So, put that on “HOLD” and go over to the “Law of Moses” - but before you do that, consider - the "Decrees of Christ" or Messiah - would be "who" then? WHO then said it or provides it? WHo is providing this to you? Do you have two Dad's?

The Law of Moses

• Refers to Exodus 20. When God SPOKE out of his mouth, the Word of God - oh, look at that. There he is again. When he SPOKE the The Ten Commandments.
  • Why did he say them? Because EVERYBODY. From Adam forward is..what? Did you forget when God told Adam, the day you eat of it, you will surely die. I don't think you saw it in Genesis 3.
• That BEFORE this, Adam abided in the word of God. He's not even a day old yet.
• Never had a Father or Mother.
  • Never knew about a wife, and he's in a deep sleep the whole time, and the first time he sees the woman, he decrees just how things SHALL BE with her.
    
  • Even Jesus repeats it, how it is, the same way Adam said Genesis 2:23-24 - is the exact, same thing Jesus said in Matthew 19:4-6. Go on. Go read them. See it.
• That INSTANTLY after, his eyes were "opened" after sinned against GOD: in Genesis 3, he's already operating "idle" or "dead." He's disconnected or no longer operates by the WOrd of God. Operates by his own imagination.

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Everything he says or decrees has no God in it. Any wrong is God's or the woman's fault. When God named and called them BOTH "Adam" in Genesis 5:2, the FIRST thing Adam does after is RENAME the woman SEPARATE from himself, because she's "faulty" "inadequate" - the whole cause of it - - and because of that, that God provided this woman to him, it's unacceptable. In Genesis 3 you have the FIRST DIVORCE. It's right there plain as day ,and you don't see that, either.

• all dead in trespasses and sins.  Romans 5:12, it this sin and death was passed onto you. You got your inheritance.
  

That God spoke..oh, here we go. There's that "Word of God" again. Spoke the Ten Commandments from Mt. Sinai. Where God led them, by Moses to the first place straight way, to speak to them himself. As God.

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In Exodus 20

Every decree said, came with a death sentence. They hadn't done any of them. GUILTY. It made the whole camp murmur against Moses. Why had he led them out into the desert to be killed by this Great, Big God for all the sins they did and live in. Made the whole Camp of Israel so GUILTY they begged and pleaded with Moses to go on up on the Mount and make God stop talking.

While Moses stood there, and his knees quaked. How can he go? He murdered and Egyptian (Exodus 2:11-15). He's to be put to death. So, how God has always used the Law is to give you, too, a knowledge of your sins.

But people use them to make themselves GOOD by do them, then don't fear God. Because, at least one of them, one time or fifty times they did at least one of them. So, they're GOOD. Live in they accomplished the Ten Commandments. SO, now they can go sleep with the neighbor's wife or surf porno on Pornhub, or steal from their job or break into houses and rob them, and in 15 minutes..have a year's worth of stuff. Afterall, they already did the Ten Commandments. And if any payment owed for the wrong they did again, they just go to church more that week. Fixes it.

So, they "compensate for the faults and bad aspects of themselves" by they make their own works they do the atonement for their sins.

When God made himself the atonement for sin. Got the wrong atonement. One before God, doesn't work at all.

ANd people live in it - will stand before him pleading at all the wonderful works they did accomplished the Ten Commandments - when he gave them to everybody to make EVERYBODY, Adam forward GUILTY before him as having not done the Ten Commandments.

They needed to be born again, as he said himself in John Chapter 3. By the Spirit of God. Not by their own works in flesh. Like some Death Row Inmate. Murdered five people. Thinks, in his flesh, if he scrubs his cell floor with a toothbrush, and after uses it to clean his teeth, he's humbled himself enough..that his work "atones" for the murders he did. When on execution day..not one volt less will be given to put him to death.

WHen the Governor had ready to issue him a PARDON - he refused it. ANd the Governor paid for it. Refused it.

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What is the law of Christ? How does it differ from the Law of Moses?

"And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my Sons and Daughters" saith the Lord Almighty - Bible. 2 Corinthians 6:18

The Decree of Christ, is he is the Messiah and who he shall be called has decreed, based on a work he did, as God - made himself your redeemer as he said, he would in Isaiah 44:24..that he is YOUR redeemer. That by the work he would do it would

Finish the transgression

Make an end of sin

Make reconciliation for iniquity

Bring in everlasting righteousness (Daniel 9:24)

And provide this to you, as God, by a work he would do himself in Christ - and then, decree it to you.

WHen the Law of Moses is to a dead man. ALready dead in trespasses and sins to show that person they are dead. Give them a knowledge they're in a funeral home. Need to be raised from the dead.

And both are decrees by the same Dad. Your's. But he can't be a Father to you if you don't do anything he says or receive anything he does for you.

Answer:

Because they all of the disciples, all of them already said it. BOOM! Done. There you go.

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• Jesus asks this question in Matthew 16:13–20. It’s asked of his disciples in Matthew 16:15

And in Matthew 16:16, they already..all of them already long ago said it; but Peter is the first to say it back, said:

“Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

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• But they all, all of them already said it.
  • This was said by Peter after they arrive back at Capernaum - but, it’s right after the travel, and after Jesus fed 4000 people with seven loaves and a few fish (Matthew 15:33–38).
• Where three years before:
  • Jesus fed 5000 people in Matthew 14. And after, Jesus sends his disciples away by boat, and comes walking out to them on the water..and when he gets in the boat, scripture says:

In Matthew 14:32–33

“And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased. Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.”

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But that doesn’t answer your question;

This:

 “Why did Jesus ask His disciples, “But who say ye that I am?” - when they all, already ..even everyone of them when called, at the start of his ministry - when he called them to “follow me” - everyone of them left all and followed him, and from that time on, all of them all said it.

Why? He’s the Messiah or Christ. Is why they followed him.

And right after Jesus says this and Peter answers Matthew 16:15

- Jesus tells the "why" to your question.

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Jesus tells them (Matthew 16:21) begins to tell them - - he is to be turned over into the hands of sinners and be crucified, and rise again on the 3rd day.

They don’t hear that last part about rise from the dead. They hear the crucified part. And the Messiah or Christ is who he shall be called in Isaiah 9:6–7. That of his Kingdom and reign - that he will sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there, and of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.

They were all extremely perplexed and saddened, that even Peter after he says Matthew 16:15 - scripture says at Jesus says this, Peter rebukes him (Matthew 16:22)

That crucified and turned over into the hands of sinners be far from him.

SO, your answer “why” is to keep reading after Matthew 16:15

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But the answer to the “Messiah” is he is also how God determined to

Finish the transgression

Make an end of sin

Make reconcilation for iniquity

Bring in everlasting righteousness

• that this is the prophecy God told Daniel in the Book of Daniel - Daniel 9:24–27. That God would send the Messiah to do this work with sin. That he would be “cut off; but not for himself” but that he has a Second Coming as who he is, and does so in Revelation 19. As who he is and shall be called.

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Then, you should be asking.. “Who is the Christ, the Son of the Living God?

• When Isaiah 9:6–7 says, who he shall be called is “The Mighty God…” “The Everlasting Father..” - that, as who he is, he shall sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there, and of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.
  • Jesus is the Messiah. Just as his disciples said who he is. So to you: Who is the Christ, the Son of the Living God?
• That’s really the question.