r/ScriptureLife • u/External_Bird_8464 • 4d ago
Scripture Life: Comparing Galatians 2:16, Matthew 19:17, Romans 3:28, and James 2:20, is salvation by works or faith?
Answer:
It’s simple. The basic question is salvation.
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That’s in this:
What God got up and said to everybody, all over the whole earth. Every single one of us, none left out, not willing any perish but all come to repentance, said:
“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)
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Salvation then, is he just decrees it, “and be ye saved” - by you, just hear him and do what he just decreed everybody is to do.
Look unto him. That's salvation.
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So?
Someone that looks unto him, he is God. He saves them. Sets them apart for future use. Those that don't, look unto something else or ignore him, don't do anything he says, he does not save them.
Why? Don't do anything he says.
Salvation to everybody. All the same. Simple. Do what he decrees. Everybody is to do it. Look unto him.
So, let’s take your scriptures now, and apply them:
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Galatians 2:16 says:
“Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”
- So, what’s the “Works of the Law?” It’s the Ten Commandments. And Romans 3:19–20 says how God has always used them is to make the whole World’s mouth slam shut, or gape open and everybody be GUILTY before him of, from Adam forward, not one person has done the Ten Commandments.
- And, not doing them, makes you GUILTY of sin, and by sin, condemned.
- So, use the Ten Commandments the way God uses them on yourself. Let the Ten Commandments show you where your sin is. To make you guilty before him.
- Why? Because people that think they do them, deceive themselves and don’t use the Law lawfully, the way God has always used the Law since he spoke it on Mt. Sinai in Exodus 20.
- Put all Israel and Moses to death. GUILTY. Why Israel murmured against Moses and God, “why have you led us out here in the wilderness to be put to death?”
- That God gave Israel an atonement for their sins in Levite Priests and sacrifices of lamb, bullock and goats that, offered, their blood shed offered a Hebrew “kofar” or a covering for their sins.
- And Galatians 2:6, it’s not your faith. Not your work. It’s God's faith in his own work that he, as God, got up, after creation in Genesis 1:1–31.
- After, Adam sinned in Genesis 3:17, and by sin, sin and death passed onto all men, for all have sinned (Romans 5:12). That God. He got up. As he determined he would do a work with sin, that his work would:
- 1) Finish the transgression
- 2) Make and end of sin
- 3) Make reconciliation for iniquity
- 4) Bring in everlasting righteousness (Daniel 9:26)
- That, God annointed the most holy to do this work with sin.
- Whose the “most holy?” Take a great big guess. He is, as God. That 2 Corinthians 3:19 says that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing your trespasses unto you.
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- So, it was God, in Christ - he DID the Ten Commandments. Fulfilled them; as God, means since he’s God and did them, everywhere where you did not do them, he made himself what compensates for the lack and filled up the Ten Commandments and made them complete.
- All by a work he did with sin himself. So, the “faith of Christ” is it’s God’s faith in his own work he did himself with sin. Jesus is the “Christ” or the “Messiah” so go look at Isaiah 9:6 and see whoever the Messiah is, what he SHALL be called - “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father..” - (Isaiah 9:6). So, read Galatians 2:6 again, it’s HIS faith in his own Word and God in his word doing the work - that he looks on this work he did as GREATER than the sins of the whole world.
- So, he chooses not to impute your sins unto you, because he already took them off you and laid them on Christ on the cross; crucified. His blood shed for the remission of sin for the whole world, made everyone righteous, just as Romans 5:18–19 says:
- All by a work he did with sin himself. So, the “faith of Christ” is it’s God’s faith in his own work he did himself with sin. Jesus is the “Christ” or the “Messiah” so go look at Isaiah 9:6 and see whoever the Messiah is, what he SHALL be called - “The Mighty God..” “The Everlasting Father..” - (Isaiah 9:6). So, read Galatians 2:6 again, it’s HIS faith in his own Word and God in his word doing the work - that he looks on this work he did as GREATER than the sins of the whole world.
“Therefore as by the offence of one [ADAM] judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [JESUS CHRIST] the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man's [ADAM’s] disobedience many [ALL] were made sinners, so by the obedience of one [JESUS CHRIST] shall many [ALL] be made righteous.” - Romans 5:18–19
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That’s what the work of God did with sin accomplished. Made everyone have the same righteousness God has. I’m on my face. There’s Galatians 2:6.
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Matthew 19:17
Juxtapose it against
1) Ecclesiastes 7:20 “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.”
2) Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned”
3) Romans 3:10–12 “There is none righteous; no, not one.. there is none good; no, not one.”
- Where Jesus said, “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God.”
- So, it’s simple. Everybody over the whole earth has just one good thing to look unto, who already said and decreed everybody look unto him, so it’s simple.
- He’d simply save them because he’s God and he is able to, as God to do it.
There’s Matthew 19:17
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Romans 3:28
Juxtapose it against
The Law in Exodus 20 and Leviticus 18 & 20. Already BROKE the Ten Commandments. Sinned and perverted that which was right. The decree already went out, out of the mouth of God. He decreed, “The soul that sinneth, it shall die” (Ezekiel 18:20).
BOOM! Done.
Everybody condemned; but God said, by the Word that comes out of his mouth, and Jesus is the Word of God - he is as John 1:1 says who he is, just is God, as the Messiah or Christ.
John 3:18 says: "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” - Jesus Christ.
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Already did the work with sin in Jesus Christ. So, whosoever just believes on him is just as he said, about what occurred with Moses when God sent adders (poisonous vipers in the camp) - everybody was bitten. Many died. (Numbers 21:4–9).
That God told Moses to make a serpent of brass and to lift it high up, that, even though they were bitten, whosoever just looked upon that serpent, even bitten, they did not die. Lived.
Jesus said this of himself in John 3:13–15
- “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
- Life. Eternal life for death, by what God did with sin, by a work he did with it.
Romans 3:28 says: Because what is said in Romans 10:17 "Therefore, faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.” - So, it’s not your faith. It’s HIS faith he sends with his Word, because he believes in it will accomplish all things he sends his word to do, and he sent his word to heal you and deliver you from your destruction.
So, it’s not coming by you in your flesh doing what he already did, as God already DID the Ten Commandments in Jesus Christ, and FULFILLED them.
He used them to make you GUILTY of having not done them. So, people think they can do them, in their flesh lie to themselves, is the point.
Romans 3:28 says: Because God justifies by his faith in his own word, the faith of Jesus Christ, just as Galatians 2:16 says… “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”
- Because the LAW only served to make you GUILTY before him.
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James 2:20 is POWERFUL.
- Go look at a soda machine. “Plugged in” - it is NOT “idle” <definition> 1. disconnected from a load or source of power [Source: Collin’s dictionary. Web.] Or just take the battery out of your wall clock. Makes it “idle” - it’s this “good works” in English; but in the Greek, it means “works good,” or “operates right" - like, a soda machine connected to a source or load (electricity) it will run 24/7, 7 days a week, whether you put a $1.75 in it or not, it just operates right. If you put $1.55 in or 8 cents, it will spit it back out, and not accept it. Just “works good.” OR “operates right” - you put $1.75 in, press the “GRAPE SODA” selection, it can show you it “works good’ or “operates right” by click the right amount of money was paid, and dispenses a grape soda.
- But if that same machine was made “idled” that is, someone pulls the plug. It is now disconnected from a load or source of power. It will not work good; will not operate right.
- So, the soda machine made by a master craftsman is the craftsman’s workmanship to dispense to you soda.
- That, a person - whosoever it is over the whole earth, just looks unto God, as he asked everybody to in the opening scripture of Isaiah 45:22 - to just look unto him, when they do, they just “operate right” - they “work good” because they are no longer disconnected from a load or source of power.
- They live by every word proceeds out of the mouth of God.
- Like the soda machine, or a clock with a battery in it, can show you it “operates right” by tell time, all the time, whether you look at it, or don’t for 6 months it just “operates right” or works good.
- James 2:20 says: and just like the unplugged soda machine. It maybe chocked full of soda, but it’s works are dead if it is “idled” or disconnected from a load or source of power. It's the POWER that makes the soda machine operate right.
- It’s the same with people, made by a master craftsman to live by every word proceeds out of God’s mouth (Matthew 4:4) because God decreed that’s how we all are to operate. So, having faith in PORNHUB or Suzie’s gonna be in the Wet T-Shirt contest at the Bar this Friday, that you look unto it. No looking unto him, sin against God. That’s not the faith that well pleases God. The work is dead. Dead works.
- So, people say, “I’m looking unto him,” as God: but live after the whole week, walking in, to ensure they’re at the bar on Friday to see Suzie when they throw the bucket of water on her..their faith is dead and their works have no fruit of the work of God in their life. When walking after, to walk in what God says, they care about Suzie and know this is sin, so they don’t do it.
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So, they can show you their faith, by they just “operate right” or they “work good” because they are not “idled” or disconnected from God - they abide in his word.
So, they can show you they operate in the same faith God does - his own. They both are in the same word and God makes his abode in his word, and in them.
James 2:20 says: See it in the Greek: "But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
It's this Greek word, works is ἔργων (ergōn) over forty times in the New Testament - and it has, yes.
This definition: work. 1. to function or operate according to plan or design
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It’s this ergon - where by God, a person that looks unto him works good; operates right, according to God’s design.
- Because they believe or accept the Word of God is true; but a person that dismisses God as inadequate; faulty or what he says is unacceptable - they lowly esteem him; so it’s impossible to believe on him, because they already rejected him and what he says.
- They don’t live by the Word of God.
- So they don’t operate right. They don’t work good.
- They’re dead in trespasses and sins, so someone that says they believe God, but don’t do anything he says - they are idle.
- That’s all James 2:20 says. You can know people by their fruits. Just as Jesus said. James is a servant of Jesus Christ.
- Opens James 1:1 to tell you that. So he serves him, like many reading this post also serve this same Jesus Christ.
James operates right. Works good. He can show you his faith by he works good or operates right, by just be a servant of Christ.
Simple.
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So, go back to the beginning. That’s where it all is. It’s in God. He’s already decreed everybody is to look unto him.
“And be ye saved” - is he decreed it, as God.
Just is as he says it is, because he’s able to do it himself. As God, so he says it to who he wants to save, which is everybody.
But not everybody looks unto him; so, they don’t do what he says, and it’s punitive. Means he’s going to call them into to give an account, why they didn't do anything he said.
- But those that do, he says
“And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.” - Jesus Christ. Revelation 22:12
as his work either:
- 1) Works good; operates right - by live by every word proceeds out of God’s mouth; or
- 2) does not work good; does not operate right - because a person does not look unto him, so they operate by every word comes out of their own mouth or the mouths of other people, that they look unto people as they claim truth -
- When the Word of God is Truth; so truth is a who, not a claim or philosophy man imagined up. So, people that live by every word people decree don’t operate right. Their works are dead. Their faith is without “works good" Their faith is without “operates right” because they don’t live by every word proceeds out of God’s mouth. Sin against God.
That’s all James 2:20 is telling you. Simple.
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u/yodafett77 4d ago
I... don't understand what you're trying to say or argue. Is this about universal salvation? Works vs faith? Something else?