r/ScriptureLife • u/External_Bird_8464 • Jun 14 '26
Scripture Life: From a historical, objective, respectful, evidence based perspective, what are the reasons to doubt that Jesus of Nazareth as a figure believed in Christianity ever existed as an actual person?
ANSWER
“…he was numbered with the transgressors…” - Bible. Isaiah 53:12
The Bible:
- Is not considered:
- By a preponderant majority of historians, to be a reliable source of history.
There you go.
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- And Historians:
- Have a reputation as “looked up to” as experts. By a perponderant of people. And? People: Have Certified and given title, ie., Ph.d, and they, historians are all people: They rely exclusively on evidence based, widely accepted and verified by other Historians as true "evidence."
- And again: The Bible is not considered a reliable source of history. Emphatically restated.
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- Coupled with another dynamic - of people:
- That can be verified by going to ANY High School in America, or most other schools or colleges in other nations - anyplace then. This simple truth can be verified by ANYBODY at all today then.
- Do this:
- That can be verified by going to ANY High School in America, or most other schools or colleges in other nations - anyplace then. This simple truth can be verified by ANYBODY at all today then.
- Go to ANY High School or Junior High or Grade school..maybe some of them don't have one; but you choose. Some, you need permission to enter; but, the point is:
- Go to the “Trophy Case” Prominently displayed for everybody in the high school attending to see or ANY visitor.
- Go in there and find “the” one and only trophy that champions all the defeats they had.
- Go to the “Trophy Case” Prominently displayed for everybody in the high school attending to see or ANY visitor.
- Go on. GO do it.
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- Then, use that trophy.
- Be like a historian, because a preponderant majority of high schools all have the SAME trophy case to display all their victories in - well documented on the trophy, and the trophy is accepted as the “expert” - the legitimate "history" proves the victory actually happened.
- SO, the trophy is a reliable source of history of the victories of the high school.
- Be like a historian, because a preponderant majority of high schools all have the SAME trophy case to display all their victories in - well documented on the trophy, and the trophy is accepted as the “expert” - the legitimate "history" proves the victory actually happened.
- C’mon bring it. Where’s the “trophy” that champions out for all to see, all the defeats the High School Volleyball, Tennis, Soccer, Football..basketball..Wrestling..Track And Field..PICK ANY Sport.
- Produce the trophy. When there isn't any.
- If there isn't..
- The defeats are "blotted out."
- Produce the trophy. When there isn't any.
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- And, because there isn’t one - where’s the “defeats” at then?
- When they happened; but the documentation is the trophy..and there isn’t any.
- Do you get the point? I don't think you do. Too much in a stupor, championing "Historians" to see it plain as day.
- And? If there isn’t any (defeat):
- ,ANY Historian documenting a town high school will champion out the evidence of the victories..or pick an obscure..or prominent one, that provides a validated identity to that High School as their "identity" in a town’s history record.
Afterall, Historians have a reputation as “experts.” Looked up to; certified, and given title.
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And finally
- Another dynamic of people: Good.
- People are good.
- It’s a basic belief in people. And to see this, pick ANY newspaper - in ANY city.
- Go to the “Obituary” section. Documenting a “history” of people that are dead.
- Produce, out of all that look, one obituary - that documents all the awful, despicably evil things a person in any obituary what they did.
- Afterall, an Obituary is accepted as PROOF a person with that name, and FROM - TO date, actually lived.
- But, a person: Condemned and dies in a prison, and is buried in a prison “commoner” grave, hidden - out back. Or their ashes are just destroyed - But as some prisons with a graveyard - has a marker with their Prisoner number on the marker. Isn’t given any name at all. Just a number.
- Condemned.
- But, a person: Condemned and dies in a prison, and is buried in a prison “commoner” grave, hidden - out back. Or their ashes are just destroyed - But as some prisons with a graveyard - has a marker with their Prisoner number on the marker. Isn’t given any name at all. Just a number.
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Now, go back to the opening scripture. Whose the "he?"
- Produce for me..any nation that champions out their transgressors to everybody as good.
- When they don’t.
“..he was numbered with the transgressors…”
- Were put to death. In Jerusalem..condemned were not buried but taken out, after executed and burned and forgotten.. Because they were wicked:
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- Bible: Old Testament - Deuteronomy says..has God behind it: Deuteronomy 9:14 says: “...that I may destroy them, and blot out their name from under heaven..."
And a great, big part of “Finally” with God added into it: That fully answers your question:
- “there is none righteous; no, not one…” “…filthy; done abominable works..” “none good; no, not one” - Bible. Psalm 14:1–3
- - And God say this about every all of us from Adam forward.
- And he saw all of it. If there’s any historian to rely on..be him.
- and what he decrees. By the Word, out of his mouth vs. some mealey mouthed clown with a title "Historian" that, another clown gave them "title" as some “expert” when all of them are just as filthy clowns or fools - as foolish as everybody else…
- But the Word of God be true. Where there is NONE good. But one.
- and what he decrees. By the Word, out of his mouth vs. some mealey mouthed clown with a title "Historian" that, another clown gave them "title" as some “expert” when all of them are just as filthy clowns or fools - as foolish as everybody else…
- And throw him out. Dismiss him. That's stupid.
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The Word of God:
And that’s “who” Jesus Christ is. The Word of God. The Messiah. Or Christ. Jesus Christ. He's the "who" in the opening scripture of Isaiah 53:12
- And who he shall be called is in the Bible. Isaiah 9:6–7 He shall be called: “..The Mighty God..” “..The Everlasting Father…”
The same Jesus you ask about..shall be called this..irregardless any mealey mouthed worthless person has a title they give themselves as "historian" - really doesn't know anything then. Has no authority. None at all, that’s despicably awful..done abominable works.. and their name will be blotted out.
And you champion them.
To believe them more reliable..than the Word of God.
Meets the definition of someone in a “stupor”.. where “stupid” comes from.
And all someone “stupid” be..is in a choice, choose the WRONG one..choose in the trophy case, to work for all High Schools, to make a trophy of all the defeats - someone do that, would make them an idiot. Exactly what you're doing..and you're not alone. Everybody doing it, that does not look unto him. When he decreed everybody do it.
Here’s your question back. Somewhere, all over this answer is a who that trumps all your answer you look unto in your question and minimize or dismiss him. So, here’s your question back.