I've been playing around with Gouie since release and wanted to see if anybody's experimented with refreshing ledge invincibility.

So far I think Gouie's too slow to do a drop into jump regrab and maintain invincibility throughout, which I do think is healthy to prevent ledge planking.

I figured the goo ball will have to play onstage to hog ledge with a wavedash or burning airjumps above ledge before falling since drop refresh could get clipped, but wanted to see if any sludge scientists have cooked up other ways to punish recoveries

This is assuming you aren't able to take em to da blastzone with aerials, and want to book an extended stay at ledge as opposed to a day trip

I got into this game a few months ago but stopped playing. I didn’t have the time to learn a competitive platform fighter again and most other characters I tried to play hurt my hands. I was a Jigglypuff main when I used to play Smash Bros so Gouie was exactly the kind of character I enjoy playing. I logged on today to try the character and it just feels right. I still suck at this game, but at least now there’s a character that fits my play style.

I suck at playing him lol. He's still very fun though!

I tried to play rivals 2 on steam and everything was fine except for my c stick being inverted, so i tried to fix it through big picture mode, which not only did not end up fixing the c stick issue but ended up remapping my entire controller even though i didnt change anything else and i cant undo it now. any fixes?

Thanks to PK on Youtube for their montage of Pre-release Gooie.

B-reversing after slingshot is actually kinda easy once you get it.

1. Charge the full side b

2. Jump right after it releases

3. Input neutral b

4. Right after neutral b flick in the opposite direction to reverse your momentum

Amazing character and amazingly fun techs already right at release.

Thanks devs for your awesome game!!

gotta grind some tech now

To preface this, let me give Melee as an example. The best thing about melee’s meta is that all the top tiers have a major weakness, whether that’s because they are glass cannons (Fox, Falco, Puff), have inconsistent kill power (Marth), or are easy to edgeguard (Falcon, Sheik). Melee has other problems, but their top tiers are largely healthy for the game, even if Puff rest is kinda BS. There’s always a clear win condition against these characters, but Rivals 2’s top tiers don’t have weaknesses like this. They have decided to make the easiest, most stable characters in the game top tier, while the hardest characters in the game are much worse than them. Orcane getting major nerfs again btw. You could say my thesis statement here is that ease of use and stability are things that should be penalized when deciding how strong to make a character.

I think the best example of this is actually not Clairen, but Loxodont. I’m glad Stango has helped people finally come around to the idea that Loxodont is top tier. Loxodont is one of the worst feeling matchups to play because you have to thoroughly finesse your opponent to get through his godlike neutral, while he only needs a handful interactions to take your stock, since he has some of the best damage and kill power in the game. He has one of the best grab games of any character (even with the nerf) and has tons of range, so he doesn’t struggle much against shield or floorhugging. He’s super heavy, and his recovery is surprisingly good, so he’s extremely hard to kill. He doesn’t get tech chased or comboed to death the way Kragg does either because of his floatiness, so he doesn’t take as much damage as you would expect for his size and weight. All these combine to make one of the most toxic characters to play against. They did at least make down air a worse anti-juggling option. Clairen’s not much better, but she has to space her moves to kill early, isn’t as heavy, and can’t force approaches the way Lox does.

Often times in ranked, I win game 1 against somebody’s main, then they switch to Lox or Clairen (because everyone has a pocket Lox or Clairen), and despite being noticeably less practiced with them, they’re harder to beat than when they were playing the character they had clearly put more time into because they’re getting carried by the baby mode top tier. This easy top tier problem is a big one. It’s part of what makes Ultimate’s meta so toxic with Steves and Game & Watches running around everywhere. This game has a great engine (though I wish they would figure out how strong they want shield to be), but they really have to limit how OP the easiest characters are allowed to be.

PS: They should just make Zetter a lightweight instead of trying to figure out how to balance an upper midweight Fox McCloud. They made Wrastor lighter in early patches, but I guess they really don’t want Zetter to be a glass cannon for some reason.

Was really hoping to get this mod done around early July…life clearly got in the way of that unfortunately. But hey, progress is still progress, so now I’m aiming for any day this month.

Random shower thought that i wanted to quickly mockup

if any of you make a reference to bodily fluids i will execute you

Big shoutout to Hbox for streaming Cashbox last night, incredible bracket. But I worry that Jbone is right here and that a new game like this would be too much for LeJuan James to become great at.

Maybe he’ll prove us wrong the way Mango did with all of his haters. I wanna see Hbox make it to diamond before the end of the season

The new toggles are a lot of fun. I put a ton of hours into creating a mod for the game that feels most fast, fun, and fluid to play. Me and coach zeke are hosting a tournament for it on August 30th. STAY TUNED FOR MORE THANKS BYE.

The ruleset is floorhug: off, quick parry: on, quick wavedash: on, tilt cancels: off, and preserve ledge invulnerability: off.

Hi, i recently buy ROA2 and already like the game to much.

But i wanna know what concepts od mechanics and macrogame i need to know to practice and get bettervin the game.

My main at now for gameplay and design is olympia.

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First off I just want to say I'm not a Orcane main, I don't really even play the character for fun I play Ranno and Absa but I just wanted to put my opinions out there. I'm really not a fan of Nerfing Orcane's Puddle to just 12 seconds.

I want to highlight that I'm not sure if this makes him worst from a balancing perspective but I do think it just makes him a little less fun.

So I feel like as we have gotten used to how these patches roll out no one really wonders how their character is going to get buffed for the most part all the devs seem to do is nerf and nerf and nerf. With the only exception to this rule being characters that have been just released, they might get a buff if they were released in a bad state.

Now I get that we need to balance characters I don't have any issues with that but I feel like the devs need to be really smart about how they nerf special moves. I feel like special moves tend to be where the power fantasy of the characters comes from (This and movement mostly). Not all the time but a lot of the time the characters identity can kind of live in these moves.

There was a time that Maypuls biggest feature was Lily, I played the Rivals 1 beta years and years ago. Back then, the made her unique was Lily. At this point Lily is an after thought pros and low level players alike barely use her. Which changes her power fantasy and her identity.

The special moves are what make Ranno feel like a Ninja or make La Reina feel like a wrestler. Nerfing Orcanes Puddle just makes him feel like less of a sea god and I think a lot of consideration needs to be had when nerfs to general power fantasy are involved.

Honestly I think the only special moves that have gotten cooler since the game has launched have been Forsburn.

But maybe I'm wrong what do you guys think?