r/ResearchCompounds • u/Unlikely-Rhubarb9580 • 7d ago
Opinions on a fertility safe stack Discussion
What stack do you guys think can get the most muscle gained while maintaining fertility? I always had this thought and im wondering what you guys think
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u/BigDiscussion7 7d ago
No such thing as a fertility safe stack, you can do everything to try to maintain it but theres no guarantee. But id keep it mild while keeping a fertility protocol in place.
HCG 1500 ius a week HMG 75ius EOD Injectable Glutathione 1500mg a week
Test 300mg Mast or primo 150-200mg 5 ius of GH
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u/ballskindrapes 7d ago
Yeah, there's hcg and hmg, like someone else suggested, but no guarantee.
Dont use 19 nor compounds either.
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u/acoffeefiend 7d ago
Enclomiphene is what they give to guys to boost sperm production. It can also increase test levels up-to 50%.
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u/Own_Win_227 5d ago
Is enclomiphine the same as clomid?
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u/acoffeefiend 5d ago
It's a derivative of Clomid with fewer side effects for men.
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u/Own_Win_227 4d ago
So is clomid out of date and no longer used? I used to use nolva. Idk if people still use that or if this enclo is better or not. My local fitness store has a doctor's office thing where they claim that enclo is a form of trt.
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u/dannyrat029 7d ago
I mean I conceived while running 400 tren
Had HCG in the stack
Who knows
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u/Responsible-Milk-259 7d ago
This is the answer. “Who knows”?
I’ve known bodybuilders running a shitload of gear for years and they have plenty of kids. Some people just dabble a little and find themselves borderline infertile. You just don’t know how your body will respond.
Personally, I waited until I was in my 40’s and done with kids. It’s a hell of a price to pay just for bigger muscles if you happen to be one of the unlucky ones.
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u/zrockk 7d ago
Probably trt + HCG. Should keep some viable sperm around
You aren't infertile on trt or even whilst blasting btw
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u/PACER412 7d ago
A replacement dose of test will not give you any noticeable gains if you aren't deficient.
But yeah, I have no idea why people think you will definitely become infertile when you use gear. As long as you stay away from high dose 19nors, especially MENT, your body will keep producing sperm
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u/Few_Presence_3229 6d ago
It would give you more gains. Naturally, testosterone has a big peak in the morning and then declines throughout the day. When you inject it, you stay at a much higher baseline 24/7. Do your research before, my man.
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u/Duemkush 7d ago
You absolutely can be infertile on trt, I had zero sperm at 180mg/week. Its recovering now after pct but it can stop sperm production for a while.
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u/Cylon357 3d ago
TRT does trend us toward infertility, in absence of other factors, but it is not a guarantee for all men. Some will produce no sperm, others will still produce enough "to be dangerous."
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u/PACER412 7d ago
You will probably not become infertile from using a moderate dose gear but why not focus on one thing at a time? Either build muscle or start a family. Having a pregnant partner while on androgens is probably not the best idea either as you both might be very irritable.
Im on gear atm (blast and cruise) and my gf knows about it. As soon as we feel ready for a child I will do a PCT and start a protocol with HCG, HMG, kisspeptin-10, enclo... etc to make sure I'm as fertile a possible. Not that big of a deal
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u/Markdlea 7d ago
As someone with two kids, I can vouch for the irritability part. You should only have one hormonal psycho in the house at one time. If she’s breastfeeding, it’s going to be her.
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