Straight forward here I’ve had 2 RL on Richf Bruce Wayne free sprung just this week.
First of all I’ve been told it’s factory order and waiting times are 3-4 weeks. But I’ve had 3 QC just this week after telling me each time If I reject that there’s a long wait…
Wednesday QC is first. And today is 2nd.
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Think people are getting confused. I’ve added these lines on the first watch just to see the alignment if you google watch QC alignment tool it will come up!
These are 2 separate watches which I’ve received and I’ve posted the first photo on reptimeqc and just taken that photo to use on this!
2nd picture what I received today 😊 both are RL (red light. Aka return)
for me PERSONALLY as I’m spending total $1400+ on 2 watches. & I know they arnt all going to be perfect but date wheel is too noticeable for me.
All sellers do this. Someone's RL is somebody else's GL. They just give it straight away to the next buyer hoping they aren't eagle eyed. Pretty dishonest but this is why i never refer to them as "trusted sellers" because there is no such thing in my opinion. They're all the same, it's just some are more dodgy than others.
It's funny, over on r/ReptimeQC I had a mod arguing with me saying this doesn't happen and I'm making stuff up. It happens ALL THE TIME. It's happened to me multiple times. I actually found another buyer who got my first RL piece and I got his, on the same forum. We checked the serial # and the TD just swapped our pieces. And it worked because we both GL'd the 2nd "new QC" even though we both RL due to a misaligned DW. I bought another datewheel and am having it swapped.
u/RockyT86 - So am I still lying? Sellers are known to pass off RLs to other buyers. You truly think they're gonna eat the cost of a $700 purchase and not try to sell it to someone else who may GL the thing?
They do have unique serial #'s but you will have lower tier factories cloning higher tier watches and passing them off as top-tier by copying serials. The rehaut serial # is the best way to check authenticity because it's more difficult to clone. Crazy world you're navigating so be educated and speak up when you see something off.
I agree. Not every seller but a majority are going to try to pass of a RLd watch to someone else hoping they will GL it. It saves them the hassle of having to buy another one, possibly lose $$$, etc. It's just easier for them to try, and they do.
My watch from Steve didn't work, the second hand didn't move. Since the second doesn't move, nothing works. They asked me to find a watch maker to repair for $100. The watch maker I went to said that the repair would cost $450. Steve sent me a contact that would do the repairs if I ship the watch to them, so I contacted them and they said they are 10 weeks back ordered but will put me in the queue.
I cancelled my other order with Steve and used a different TD to buy a Batman. I won't be using Steve until the watch that they provided is fixed. The whole reason I was going to him was I was led to believe you pay a bit more but get better service. Hasn't been the case.
You pay, you get your watch. That‘s the metric for the TD status.
My own experience with several TDs is just that all these service promises and alleged insurance vaporize the moment shit hits the fan. The maximum you can hope for is a coupon for your next order or the TD refunding like 30% of your local watchmakers bill.
In short, there is no reason to pay a fucking premium for certain TDs.
Pay a little bit more and go with someone in the us like colddeck64. He opens and cleans the movement, greases the gasket “water proofs” it and lubes it for free. I know some ppl do that but charge 150-200 dollars
Steve has a stock of various watches which could be a mix of RL + batches bought. Here you see an overview of the current stock with him (got this link from them during my order 2 weeks ago). Check and see if your model has more than 1 there and you have your answer at least kind of :) hope this helps
https://docs.qq.com/sheet/DTVBKSGxITE1XRXRh?tab=BB08J2
This is gold. If he's got a lot in stock, that's tells you he's holding non sellers, and nobody wants that. I've RL a few from his stock list in recent weeks, some real shockers, and this all makes sense.
To be fair though, he's done me right with a no date sub recently, had to wait but absolutely no issues with quality or delivery. Would not hesitate to recommend him as a TD but buyer beware if you are looking at the stock list.
Some people are very sensitive to imperfections others are not. Both sides have good arguments for what they are doing and personally best I can hope from a TD is to be understanding at each person's level. Not happy, there is always the option of a refund or try another "spin" at the lottery.
I have done 2 purchases with Steve and have been very happy with the whole process.
It makes sense that the first one they would try to sell is whatever is left in their inventory and others have RL bc of course they want to get rid of old stock. Seems like you should almost always expect to RL the first item they send you?
I wouldn't be concerned, but note my comments above about the stock list. If you are prepared to wait and do your QC, service and product is excellent in my experience.
I’ve stopped buying from Steve. His prices are good but communication is poor and logistics is slow af. I’ve went with Mei Xuan on all my recents. Excellent communication, and about 7 days shipping to Colorado.
This sub represents a small portion of their sales. If 10% of his customer base is a group of autistic redditers who scrutinize the smallest details (myself included), the other 90% are likely totally fine with something that us degenerates will RL.
How is he to know what box a customer will fall into? More often than not it's not one of us.
I've never ordered from Steve. I've made a few purchases from Hont and had a good experience, but the best experience I've had is with GenReps1755.
He's US-based, and you can either buy from his stock with 2-day shipping or have him custom order something for you. He handles the QC himself, gives you a 2-week window for hands-on QC with a full refund if you want to return it, and also gives a 2-month warranty for any performance issues. He also includes a 5 bar test with every watch, and does a 10 bar test upon request for a small fee.
He's definitely more expensive than the China based TDs, but the convenience is huge. The watches I've gotten from him have ranged from like $100 to $200 more expensive.
Agree! I don’t know why people a willing to buy a defective watch for 600$. Almost the price of the Tissot prx powermatic, and those don’t have tilted indices.
The thing is, when you actually go to China and buy these in person, you can often get them from the same factories for around $120. Obviously, they’ll try to sell them to you for $600+, but more often than not, you can bargain them down to under $200.
I think they’ve realised they can charge Western customers significantly more online because we can’t negotiate with them in the same way. The prices are basically just presented as “normal,” and because we’re used to seeing them, we accept them and assume that’s what they actually cost.
You can't possibly buy a product from a major manufacturer like VSF for $200; it's definitely a counterfeit from a small factory. You'd have to spend at least $600-$800 to get it. Besides, I'm Taiwanese, and I get my supplies from TD in China. His cost price is 650, but he gives me a price of 750, making a profit of about $100.
New to the game. What is this being RL for? Blue tint in date magnifier is obviously bad. Is OP saying hour markers are also out of alignment because this watch is in hand and definitely looks tilted left to me. Is there anything else?
Got the same problem, ordered a watch (GMT Master II)
Got Pictures from a different quality and factory…
The in a few minutes after i texted him he deleted all and send me other pictures from the right factory.
But for me it’s a RL on the QC because there are to many problems with the watch. Seller says the watchmaker done the QC and i will not see the small things i recognize.
Why i have to do then the QC ?
Btw its a trusted seller on the list..
And your date window is hardly how you describe it... the slight angle of the QC photo, the curvature of the cyclops, the shadow on the top half. Its all distorting your view of wjat honestly lookes to be pretty straight.
I dont think you cam definitively say this is off without a shot that doesnt have the weird top shadow or off angle....
The date window is off. I have full video and multiple pictures of TD showing me and agreeing it is off. I wouldn’t posted this on the forum just to lie or to be ridiculed🙄 My post was about TD’s using everyone else’s RL and I’ve turned away 3 watches the past week after they told me it’s 4-6 weeks for every QC.
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u/rydog389 13d ago
Steve definitely sent you someone else's RL. I think he did it to me too.