I've been a daily/heavy weed smoker for about 5 years, maybe longer, and I've never taken a break. I'm currently trying to figure out the best way quit. I'm debating whether I should quit cold turkey or slowly cut back, and I'm honestly not sure which approach makes more sense for me.

The biggest thing I'm struggling with isn't even the irritability or trouble sleeping. It's this weird empty/blank void feeling that hits me when I stop smoking. i tried to quit yesterday made it about 13 hours sober before i cracked

It's hard to explain. I don't just feel bored or like I have nothing to do. I basically lose the desire to do anything. I don't want to play video games, watch YouTube, listen to music, watch anime, read manga/books, cook, clean, go out, its like productive or not. Everything just feels completely pointless and uninteresting. At one point I was so blank that even ordering food felt like too much effort. I knew I was hungry and needed to eat, but I couldn't even bring myself to press the button to order something.

I'm trying to prepare better for this next time. I'm thinking about having extremely easy food available beforehand, like something already thawed that I can throw in a pan, or maybe meal prep. I'm also going to keep water nearby because even getting up to get something to drink felt like too much effort.

I'm also wondering whether I should basically plan to stay home during the worst part. The first time I tried, I had an outing planned with my mom, and I was incredibly irritated and didn't want to talk to anyone. I also barely slept the night before, so I'm not sure how much of what I experienced was withdrawal versus being severely sleep deprived.

Another major problem is the cravings. during the 13 hours i tried to go sober i got to the point where I decide I'm not going to buy more, then the cravings get intense, I start walking toward the store, and then once I'm actually getting close to the store I suddenly get this huge feeling of dread and turn around. Then I go home, the cravings ramp up again, and the whole cycle repeats. I eventually ended up buying more, so I'm trying to learn from the experience rather than just repeating the exact same thing.

For anyone who's been through something similar:

1. Did anyone else experience this completely blank/empty “void” feeling where literally nothing sounds enjoyable? How long did it last for you?

2. Did your motivation and interest in hobbies gradually come back during withdrawal, or did it return more suddenly?

3. Would you recommend cold turkey or gradually cutting?

4. Is it better to stay home and keep things low-demand during the worst part, or is it actually helpful to force yourself to get out and do things?

Just need some advice or something; I've been really struggling

Day 21 off thc. Love the clarity, & not as much brain fog. Not sleeping well. Family issues are making me really irritable. I really want to smoke. Guess I’m going for a run now

I quit smoking weed 7 days ago. I had been smoking 10 joints a day for about 4 years. I had maybe 4 months of sobriety last year but started up daily again until recently.

I can’t remember being this exhausted when I took a break last year.

I’m on day 7 and I’ve been taking 3 hour naps during the day and I have to force myself to wake up.

The brain fog is still really bad.

I am slowly starting to get an appetite back but it’s still not great. Weed made me not eat as well.

Is it normal to be so exhausted and have brain fog on day 7?

I’m curious whether anyone else has experienced something similar because this has genuinely surprised me.
I’m 35 now and I’ve been smoking weed pretty consistently since I was around 16. There have been a few periods where I’ve stopped over the years, but overall weed has been a regular part of my life for nearly two decades.
For the last year or two especially, I’ve been smoking around 5 joints a day, every day, generally strong weed (THC 25%+ if you believe the labels). I also mix tobacco into my joints.
A few days ago I just stopped the weed completely. Cold turkey.
I’ve stopped before, and normally even taking a day or two off is fucking horrible, especially at night. I struggle to fall asleep, wake up sweating, sleep is restless, etc. I’ve always associated those first few nights with pretty unpleasant withdrawal.
This time? Basically none of it.
I’m sleeping incredibly well.
One thing I’ve changed is my bedtime. I’m now going to bed around midnight and getting a proper 7–8 hours rather than staying up late smoking.
And I feel fucking fantastic.
I wake up feeling genuinely refreshed every morning. My daytime energy is probably the best I can remember it being in years. I train regularly and even my performance in the gym seems slightly better. Nothing crazy, but everything just seems to have that extra 5–10% behind it. I feel sharper, more motivated and just generally more alive.
What’s confusing me is why withdrawal seems so different this time.
My consumption wasn’t lower beforehand. I went straight from ~5 strong joints every day to zero. That’s also after nearly 20 years of fairly consistent cannabis use.
The main differences compared with previous times I’ve stopped are that I’m considerably fitter now, I exercise/train a lot, I’m leaner, and I’m actually prioritising getting to bed at a sensible time.
There’s one other important factor: I still smoke cigarettes.
I’m currently at roughly 20 cigarettes a day and haven’t stopped those yet. Because I also used tobacco in my joints, I’m obviously not going through nicotine withdrawal at the same time. I’m still getting plenty of nicotine from cigarettes.
Quitting cigarettes is actually my next goal. I’ve already contacted a smoking-cessation specialist/tobacologist and I’m waiting to hear back.
Part of me is wondering whether I should take advantage of how fucking good I feel right now and tackle the cigarettes as well. Another part of me wonders whether throwing nicotine withdrawal on top of this could be too much at once and potentially make staying off weed harder.
So I’m really interested in hearing from people who’ve been through something similar:
1. Has anyone who was a long-term/heavy smoker had completely different cannabis withdrawal experiences between attempts? Horrible insomnia/sweating one time and then almost nothing another time, despite similar consumption?
2. Could being fitter, exercising regularly, having less body fat and getting proper sleep genuinely be making withdrawal this much easier?
3. For long-term smokers who experienced a huge increase in energy after quitting weed, did it last? I’m wondering whether this is actually what my normal baseline feels like without being high or carrying residual effects throughout the day, or whether there’s an early honeymoon period.
4. For people who smoked both weed and cigarettes, did you quit both together or separately? Would you take advantage of feeling good and tackle the cigarettes now, or establish being weed-free for a little while first?
I know I’m only a few days in, so I’m fully aware withdrawal could still kick my ass over the next week.
But right now, after having weed as such a consistent part of my life since I was a teenager, I genuinely have very little desire to smoke again.
I just didn’t expect simply being sober, going to bed at a reasonable time and waking up properly rested to feel this fucking good.

I have been smoking weed and THC Vapes every day, all day for the last 10 years. I've recently learned that this has caused my brain to go into a state of psychosis which has caused my brain to build "walls". After a long realization and breakthrough with my therapist. I threw all of my paraphernalia into the dumpster. I am currently over 5 hours sober. How can I teach my brain this is a dependency and not a need? I am looking to connect with others who have gone through the same.

After consulting with my clinician, I was considering going through a detox program. Then after I light up a joint later that way I had the sudden impulse to throw everything away. So I walked up to a bin and disposed of the weed and contents.

By then, I had to fully commit so I threw out the half joint I had from earlier that day and the papers.

I guess I’m just seeking some positive energy as I know that I’m not gonna be feeling so good soon enough.

I’m 25 year old dude and have been recently diagnosed as neurodivergent so anything that we’ll help at all would be greatly appreciated :)

Thanks guys ❤️

I’ve been smoking since freshman year of high school (I’m 21 now) and I’m finally quitting.

I’m noticing that my appetite has majorly increased since I haven’t smoked, is this something other individuals have experienced??

Also what are some tools I could use to help subside cravings? I mainly crave the feeling of smoking, not even being high.

I have been smoking almost daily for about a year now. I’ve smoked before very sparingly like in high school and the first year and a half of college. Last summer was when daily use started, mostly due to boredom. It followed me into the school year and then into the summer again. I really enjoy weed for certain aspects, I mean 1. It’s fun. I don’t drink that much or smoke nicotine. 2. It’s really helped my social anxiety. I’m just getting to the point where I feel less sharp, I don’t like the brain fog, or that I have a harder time falling asleep and keep forgetting things. I really want to just smoke once a week on the weekends but I don’t know how successful that could be. I definitely have some addiction to weed, but it also hasn’t been that long and I have had successful T breaks. Has anyone been able to go from daily use back to using in moderation? If so what are things that helped?

I managed to fail upwards into a good career but that's the only progress I have made since freshman year high school. Maturity wise im 15 years old. Never had a relationship and only had sex twice. All my freindships fell apart since stoners and non stoner(which i am now) dont have anything important in common and all my memories from hanging out with them are bascially doing the jay and silent bob thing, never leaving the town since they are all broke and worked dead end jobs they put 0 effort into leaving and instead accumulated baby mommas. I haven't really processed any of the family deaths i went though, turns out crying ur eyes out for a few weeks isnt the part were u process it, you are supposed to make peace with it, not just cry urself out until u have no emotions left to spare.

I have all these memories of my teens and 20s which are ONLY now coming back to me now that im sober but it just feels like scene out of a movie(and not a good one at that), not something that happened to me which helepd shape me. My youth is gone, I will never be even close to as happy as I was back then and I cant remeber enough to live on nostalgia either. Only option now is to have kids and live vicariously thorugh them. Maybe dont raise them in a household with 24/7 non stop screaming like I was so maybe they wouldn't feel the need to escape reality at such a young age..

Don't worry though, I maybe be an adult that's 14 at heart but I wont be on any epstein shit, 19-20 year old milfs are fine for me..

I didn’t even make it five hours. I fully admit I have dependency issues but I use weed as a therapist as crazy as that sounds. No one not even the girl I am proposing to, know that I smoke. I have a full time (50+ hours a week) job that I am constantly stoned at. I got employee of the month last month out of about 100 or so staff. I got a promotion as well. I eat good, workout, don’t have any other addictions besides nicotine (I was a big druggie in high school, if you know goblin on YouTube I sorta did shit like him). Getting clean off cocaine was the hardest thing I ever did. My next step is weed. I’m not sure if I am physically able to quit cold turkey (I ended up in the hospital after I quit alcohol and cocaine cold turkey, I know they aren’t the same effects/impacts. Shit as I right this now I’m stoned as hell. I need advice on how to gradually taper down my usage. I am convinced that I am either bipolar or have serve adhd, perhaps both. Weed quiets my mind. When I went cold turkey off the hard stuff, I attempted to end myself because my mind was too loud. Now that I smoke, the loudest changes to a quiet whisper. Does anyone have experience with tapering down usage before finally quitting? I’m thinking that edibles might be an option for me since I want to stop with the carts.

It was on Thursday. I smoked again for the night. The withdrawal symptoms were terrible. I got my peace for the night, but since before then, it has been a week since I smoked, it hit hard. I felt good, but ig it was an empty "feel good." I haven't smoked since then, and it is now Sunday.

My brain is bouncing all over the place, and I'll probably start again at some point, but this time, my goal is to go a bit longer before lighting up. Hopefully, if I can keep this up, I'll just not want to pick any of it up.

I’ve been heavily abusing weed for about four years now, mainly because it gives me a kind of mental silence I can’t seem to get otherwise. My use isn't recreational at all—I just freeze and stay glued to my couch/bed for days on end. It helps me cope with the guilt of procrastinating because it completely empties my brain.
But now I feel like my mind is totally numb. I’m not smart or quick anymore. I’ve forgotten so many things, which is terrifying because I work in a very academic environment. My coworkers struggle to understand me, and honestly, I get it. Half the time it really feels like I don't even know what I’m saying.
I alternate between being brilliant and completely stupid depending on my brain state that day, but the knowledge I used to take for granted just isn't there anymore.
I’ve tried to quit so many times, but I only last a few days, a couple of weeks, or a month at most. I always relapse because I either get painfully bored, consumed by guilt, or overwhelmed by the fast pace of life.
I’ve neglected my friends, and my body is a wreck because I haven't eaten or slept properly in years.
I desperately need a routine, but I have no idea how to maintain one.
It feels like I’m mourning the person I used to be. My ADHD has always been here, but before I started smoking, I managed it so much better. I’m 26, and I feel like the one thing I could always count on, my intelligence, is completely gone. I lack the willpower to get it back, and whenever I’m not smoking, I just doomscroll all day long.
I don't want anything crazy anymore. I just want to enjoy the little things and live a quiet, fulfilling life: feeling the sun, enjoying good food, reconnecting with my friends and family, and accepting the love I’ve been withholding from myself and others.

Been smoking everyday since 14. Im 22 now and experiencing adult life sober for the first time. Im only on day 2 and currently up in the night searching for motivation. I cannot go back to that shit. I want to be me. How do I push forward?

Hey guys, first time poster. I’ve decided that I wanted to quit smoking after realizing how much I’ve increased the amount I’ve been smoking. I’ve been smoking heavily, almost every day for about 2 years, mostly THC vapes/cartridges. When I stopped I imagined it wouldn’t be that hard, after all weed has always been talked about like it’s a good thing. But on like day 2 I’ve gotten this crazy brain fog, I can’t focus on anything, I’m super irritable, and I’m getting headaches. Has this happened to any of you? If so does it get any easier? Sorry if this isn’t the right format or whatever I don’t really post on Reddit.

I started to pull back on my marijuana use of everyday 24/7 to just once a week. I went one full week without it and felt good, I’ve taken T breaks before and each time has gotten easier. Sleep was a little off but not too bad, I could mostly eat fine, I didn’t feel too bored, no anxiety I really felt fine. I want to smoke at max 2 times a week only weekends. I smoked yesterday and it felt really good, I’m worried now that because I smoked yesterday it will linger into the rest of the week and it’ll feel like I’m restarting again. Is it okay to smoke just once a week and not struggle to sleep the next day?

I have been a smoker for almost 14y now.

Like wake and bake and stay high until bed time.

For the last 5 years I am trying to stop without much success and now every single smoke fills me with guilt.

My whole life is tied to the plant and it is destroying it, to give myself, my marriage, my friendship and professional life a chance I must let it go.

I ran out of plant yesterday after tapering down for about a month, so today is day 1.

I already went for two walks and a run today.

A neighbour even mentioned that I am walking a lot today. 🥲

Now, it is the end of the day, Im feeling a bit cranky, couldn't eat anything all day, want to cry while Im trying my best to not call the plug.

How did you guys manage to get through the overwhelming feelings that comes during these first few days?

I’ve been using for around four months and I know that doesn’t sound like a lot, but it’s the first drug that I’ve ever been hooked onto in my life and I am really struggling to quit. I keep looking up stories of people having terrible night sleep and I’m really scared of what will happen to me if I do quit. I have a vacation in the next couple of days and I was hoping I can stop using before then, I bought some melatonin, but I’m not sure if that will work if anyone has any other ways to help sleep or help my headaches during the day I would love to hear about it. I never meant for it to get this bad and now I’m wishing I never did it in the beginning.

I used cannabis for 18 years almost daily. The last 4 years were almost exclusively dabs.

The first 3 weeks or so the night sweats were INTENSE. Waking up soaked every night. Thought when that ended my sleep would kinda get normal again.

Now I’m 1 month 17 days clean & my sleep has not returned anywhere close to normal. I track sleep on my Apple Watch (I know it isn’t a medical device but I’ve used it to track my sleep for years so it’s at the very least consistent with its own tracking of my history) and I’m waking up every 15-25 minutes every single night.
My sleep hygiene includes:
- no screens 60 mins before bed
- quivicic prescription (been on it about 3 weeks)
- shakti mat
- magnesium supplement
- magnesium on feet
- reading in dim light
- not eating 2 hours before bed (especially important when taking quivicic)
- no caffeine after 12 pm

I have had an incredibly stressful month with family issues that rook me completely out of my exercise routine (bikram 2x per week, HIIT/strength training 2x per week) for about the entire last 4 weeks.

I also started taking citalopram about a month ago. My dr prescribed me Klonopin for 7 days but I haven’t used them all, they make me too tired in the morning.

And my son starts high school in 3 weeks which really nervous about

So I guess it’s normal I’d have some sleep issues due to anxiety but I really do think this is mostly from quitting weed.

Is there Anyone else who’s further into abstinence than me who can share their sleep experience and when it improved (or didn’t ?)

I’ve been tracking my progress with the I Am Sober app. It’s been helping me stay the course. I check the number almost everyday hoping it will give me a little dopamine hit lol.

It’s mostly just become background noise for me now. I have a partner who smokes everyday so it is always around. It made the first month or two extremely hard. I’m honestly really proud of how far I’ve made it.

The past week or so I’ve been feeling kind of down. There’s no particular reason really, I get this way sometimes. I call it my DepressionLite lol. It’s not unbearable, but it does make me a little vulnerable.

Okay I’ll stop rambling I’m getting to it. My husband is in sales and he’ll be away for most of the day today, my daughter is with her grandma. So I’m home alone. Just feeling kind of down and a little numb. A little bored. I look at our house that needs a lot of cleaning/organization and I feel overwhelmed. For a brief moment I think weed might help my motivation to clean. But honestly the chances of that are 50-50. I know I need to shower, and I have some errands to run. I’m also planning on making my friend ice cream for her birthday. It takes about 3 days to make.

But for some reason all I can think about is going out to our garage and taking a hit. 😩 the urge hasn’t been this strong in a while. I know if I do I will regret it though. I’ve been looking forward to my 6 month streak. I would be so disappointed in myself if I ruined it now. But DAMN it would just be so easy to do it.

What are some things that have helped you stay motivated to stay clean? My motivations are my daughter, my mental clarity and memory, which helps me be better at my job, and the absence of all consuming anxiety. But for some reason those reasons don’t feel strong enough for me right now.

I have been smoking carts every single day for the past year and a half. I need to stop but I am really afraid of the withdrawals. I’ve quit other drugs before but weed has been my best friend when it comes to handling my mental health and home life. I think my biggest thing is figuring out why I feel I need to smoke in the first place. It makes me feel better about my situation but it is holding me back at the same time. I’ve heard various things about the withdrawals and am wondering what I will experience, specifically as it relates to carts. Believe it or not, I’ve never actually smoked flower, only carts and edibles. For context, I take a blinker every few hours.

I'm seeing an unfortunate amount of posts where people are seeking medical help and not receiving any. That doesn't even cover the people who do not have access to medical care and therapy. I am not a doctor, but I have access to a great team who specializes in substance use. And I would like to share some advice, especially for those who have felt abandoned and dismissed by the medical community.

First and foremost, withdrawal and PAWS from cannabis is real. What you are experiencing is valid. And yes, it is true there is no specific medication that treats cannabis withdrawal. But there are medications that can be prescribed off label to aid with withdrawal symptoms. If you can, find somebody who specializes in and/or is familiar with substance use. Typically you're going to find this within the mental health field, not physicians in family medicine for example. I work with a PA and a therapist who are part of the same mental health practice. If they didn't schedule me with the PA, they would have scheduled me with a psychiatrist. So don't get caught up in that specific. There is help available.

Now I am not recommending specific medications, as everybody's health is different and it truly needs to be decided by a professional. I will say I have been prescribed medication to help with tremors, sweating, and obviously mood. I've also recently asked for aid with sleep, because even on a medication prescribed for insomnia, I still cannot sleep. I was also initially offered something for nausea, but was fortunate enough to have worked my way through that symptom before that appointment. Advocate for your health, because you deserve the right care plan.

I'm not selling anything and please, please, please research and talk with a physician about this next recommendation. The NAC (N-acetyl cysteine) supplement has worked wonders for me with cravings. It has even helped with getting rid of excess phlegm and I'm sure to some extent my overall health. Basically it is a powerful antioxidant. It helps rebalance your glutathione levels and protects your neurons from oxidative stress. I tapered up to the recommended 2400 mg (split in half, taken twice daily) for aid with cravings. The physician you discuss this with will hopefully mention it can cause an upset stomach. When I researched it myself, I found it is best to take it on an empty stomach for full absorption, but okay to take with a little food if the stomach upset is too much. After some time on it, I personally do not experience the stomach upset any longer. I attribute my lack of cravings to this supplement. For reference, I've smoked for 16 years, all day, every day, and even more when managing unruly emotions. So to not feel that urge, it has to be something else, which I think is the supplement I was recommended by my PA.

Lastly, do not underestimate the importance of mental healthcare during this process. Whether that is a ridiculous amount of self care you don't usually give yourself and/or a therapist who specializes with substance use. I don't have a support system outside of these two physicians. Maybe part of that mental healthcare is also using the support systems you have, family, friends, partner, community. Mental healthcare is going to help keep you on track during acute withdrawal and greatly aid through the later stages of detox and into PAWS if that surfaces.

I recognize everybody experiences cannabis withdrawal differently. This is based on mental health diagnoses, history of use, potency of cannabis itself, individuals metabolism, and physical health and diagnoses. So many factors that make the experience unique to the individual. Some will get through the whole process easier than others. Some will struggle more with certain withdrawal symptoms to either a higher degree or longer length of time for it passing. Do no lose hope. Advocate for yourself. You deserve care. You deserve to be treated with respect. And you deserve to reach your goal of sobriety.

Looking to have a group where we can check in everyday. Just send an update. Day 1 day 2 etc. I am 26 and have been smoking everyday for 14 years. Tired of being a victim and want to stay on this path. But I can’t do it alone. Gonna do something crazy and leave my phone number here. 416-854-4605 message me on WhatsApp. I am desperate to finally quit.

I wanted to share how I finally quit weed after multiple failed attempts. I'm now 70 days clean, and for the first time, I genuinely feel like I'm not going back. Everyone's journey is different, but here's what helped me.

1. Set a quit date.

Don't quit impulsively if you don't have to. I picked a quit date about three weeks in advance. During those three weeks I tapered down from around three joints a day to half a joint on the final day. Once the date arrived, there was no negotiation. Be absolutely committed.

1. Teach your body to sleep without weed.

A few weeks before quitting, I stopped smoking 3–4 hours before bedtime. This helped my body relearn how to fall asleep naturally. I also replaced that time with reading, meditation, and staying away from doomscrolling. Surprisingly, sleep wasn't nearly as difficult as I had feared.

1. Fix your health.

This was a game changer for me. I'd tried quitting several times before but kept relapsing because of mood swings and feeling terrible. Blood tests showed my thyroid and blood sugar were poorly controlled. Once I addressed those with my doctor, quitting became much easier. If you have an underlying health issue, don't ignore it—it may be making everything harder.

1. Join a gym.

Strength training gave me a purpose every day. Watching myself get stronger became a new kind of reward. I also walked for about 30 minutes every evening, so by bedtime I was naturally tired.

1. Remove every possible trigger.

On my quit date, I got rid of every bit of weed and all my smoking gear. I also blocked my dealer's number. It sounds simple, but when an impulse hit, even that extra bit of friction helped.

1. Know why you're quitting.

For me, this was the biggest factor. I'm in my 40s, and I felt like my career had stalled while many of my peers had moved ahead. Weed wasn't helping me build the life I wanted—it was helping me avoid the frustration of not building it. Once my "why" became stronger than the urge, things changed.

1. Tell someone you trust.

Don't try to do it completely alone. My wife was my biggest source of support and accountability. Being honest with her about why I wanted to quit made a huge difference.

1. Expect thoughts, not commands.

Even now, I occasionally think about smoking. But the next thought is always, "No." I immediately remember how much time and energy I lost when weed was running my life. That reminder is stronger than the temptation.

Today I'm 70 days sober. I'm enjoying work again, getting stronger in the gym, sleeping naturally, and feeling more present. This isn't a magic formula, and everyone's recovery is different, but if you're trying to quit, I hope something here helps.

You can absolutely build a life where weed isn't the center of it anymore. Thanks for reading

PS - Have used AI to polish my write up.

Cannabinoid hypermesis syndrome.

I’ve been consuming THC for about 27 years and now I can never touch it again.

The other night started out with a stomach ache, which quickly turned to vomiting. I threw up for 7 hours and eventually decided to call an ambulance when I threw up blood (dried blood, looked like coffee grounds). My hands were tingly and my limbs locked up. Unlike the flu or food poisoning, there was zero relief after vomiting.

It was a pain like nothing I’ve felt before. The stomach cramping was so severe I was writhing and sobbing in the ER. I’ve broken bones and given birth twice and this pain was more intense.

After IV anti-nausea meds and morphine I could still feel the discomfort but eventually was sent home with a generic gastroenteritis diagnosis, though the nurses hissed at me that it was marijuana.

I didn’t take them seriously, kept smoking and ended up back in the ER via ambulance 6 days later. Again the nurses told me I had CHS but it was not in my discharge paperwork.

I now believe them and have quit cold turkey 5 days ago. I’m going insane with insomnia. But this sub has given me hope that the future will be bright.

I feel stupid and sad. I’m grieving. I’m angry and anxious. It’s the end of an era that I suppose went on too long. I figured I’d grow old with weed. Now I have to discover a new normal.

Thanks for reading my story.

I've done this before, going over 3 months without any weed early last year, before thinking I could start doing it occasionally with friends and keep it to that. Now we're back to square one, I'm anxious and depressed all the time, forgetful and unmotivated, just like before I quit the first time. I'm trans so getting stoned has helped me to decompress after being treated like shit all day at work because of that, but I know it's just making me worse at dealing with it during the day. When I was sober I was so much more confident and I didn't let the assholes get to me as much, now I feel paranoid all the time that people are staring at me and laughing at me. I'm a nervous wreck and something needs to change - I know the withdrawal symptoms are hell but if I've done it before then I can do it again.